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Sean1978
07-14-2005, 03:09 PM
yeah I know, they suck....
http://www.x3racing.com/alt/ALT-JY-N240SX89H-BK.jpg
here's my question, has anyone seen these in person? I'm trying to figure out if they can be disassembled. I think with the center section painted the same color as the car and the chrome outlines on the lights either painted black or the entire inside of the side lights painted red they might not look bad at all. they are also less than 200 bucks where as S13 Kouki's for us east coast boys run about 490 plus shipping..

Yoshi
07-14-2005, 05:51 PM
if that's what u wanna do, why not get this crappy light kit, then order up just a center section from real kouki tails?

BTW, it's alteZZa, not alteSSa.

d r i f t swift
07-14-2005, 05:58 PM
what i want to know is.. do these fit usdm fastbacks? or do you have to buy the kouki panel piece thing ?

infinitexsound
07-14-2005, 06:39 PM
go try it.. i was thinking of just usin the headlight cover for the s14 zenki.... rather then run the oem shitty ones..... id like a cheap clear setup vs buying the FK lenses.... seems like a good idea.. knock ur self out..

Wei240
07-14-2005, 07:18 PM
yeah, someone buy one and let us know...

joobojesse
07-14-2005, 07:57 PM
Actually, I have always been into "tastefully" modding my car, but these are really starting to grow on me. Right now i'm studying in japan and i see 180s with altezzas on cars all the time. Honestly, with the right color car they can loor really nice. Plus, they are also dipping bellow 75bucks on ebay with shipping.

That said, here in japan there are about 3 other versions of the HB altezza that should hit US shores real soon... kinda like with the coupe clear/red tails (they have been popular here for a few months, but just recently have been getting sold on e-bay). Those 3 new designs arent the same as that red/clear they have for the coupe (which would be nice), but they're just different variations on the normal altezza design (i.e. factory smoked, different shaped lights, etc...).

Yahoo japan: http://search.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/search/auc?p=180sx+%A5%C6%A1%BC%A5%EB&auccat=0&alocale=0jp&acc=jp

But yeah, i am still yet to see a set that i wold buy and slap on without modifying...

ThatGuy
07-14-2005, 08:08 PM
It says "JDM Housing" right in the picture. So yes, you need the "180sx panel thing" for proper fitment. Second, I've found anything can be taken apart given the proper level of force and knowledge. So buy them, experiment with them, and make something you like out of them. Personally, the only thing I could make out of them is...






Ugly Paperweights! But that is just my opinion. :D

ASIA
07-14-2005, 08:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/black240sx/Jordan/gladmo004.jpg

SOHCturbo modded a set

mbmbmb23
07-14-2005, 08:52 PM
yeah I know, they suck....

....here's my question, has anyone seen these in person?............

Sean, I have 2 pictures I grabbed off SXOC showing this "tinted altezza mod"....I'll email you them if you will host them and link them within this thread. I believe he used tint spray on the outside........looks pretty badass on his car as he tinted the center panel too........and his car was black to start with.

lemme know,


-M

Pepperoni
07-14-2005, 09:23 PM
i have a few pics lying around with some of these lights. not many people seem to have them, or they are too embarassed or scared to post em up.

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7038/3759171eh.jpg

ASIA
07-14-2005, 09:26 PM
http://www.driftosenyou.com/pics/2004.12.11/025.jpg

Wei240
07-14-2005, 09:40 PM
^that actually looks kinda nice

Sean1978
07-14-2005, 10:47 PM
http://www.turbotweek.com//images/sileightey/a1.jpg
http://www.turbotweek.com//images/sileightey/a2.jpg
wow, thanks for giving me good responses instead of the "that's ricer shit" responses I thought I'd get.

I have made 2 conclusions about these lights

1) they do look horrible stock
2) they can look pretty good when modified and are quite cost effective

I'll be ordering a set for my project car...

aznxplayer
07-14-2005, 10:55 PM
i think the one thats tinted looks pretty sick, i might buy em for my project as well, anyone know where to buy the spray on tint?

kandyflip445
07-14-2005, 11:04 PM
http://www.driftosenyou.com/pics/2004.12.11/025.jpg

I kinda like that...

CaoBoY
07-14-2005, 11:05 PM
not feelin it...im just not a fan of altezza lights even if they are 'JDM tyTE y0!'

Sean1978
07-14-2005, 11:08 PM
I think the modified ones with tint and blacked out or painted center section aren't really "altessa" lights anymore..

TheSparo
07-14-2005, 11:15 PM
how was the red one modded? i like that one

Wei240
07-14-2005, 11:33 PM
yeah, i like the red one too, kinda kewl...

i just don't like altz that are gay clear/white on white

Pepperoni
07-15-2005, 12:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/black240sx/Jordan/gladmo004.jpg

SOHCturbo modded a set

here they were before they were painted..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/black240sx/Jordan/tails002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/black240sx/Jordan/tails003.jpg

Sil-Abc
07-15-2005, 02:38 AM
i was thinkin about buying a set a while back when kazuo mentioned it but i wasnt feeling it. I have to admit they do look nice tinted but iuno still doesnt get my attention. It seems like you can tint them red or smoke them. Iuno its hard to say. go for it, i mean to each their own

Nan Desu Ka?!
07-15-2005, 03:24 AM
if ya'll wand the write up/review that SOHCturbo did on these lights, head over to 240scforums.com and search "bring on the flames" you will find it. not bad at all after the red out/black out center, i like them :)

not bad for 1/4 the price of kouki tails...

Tygma
07-15-2005, 03:44 AM
There was a guy at the AutoRND meet a while back who had them on his hatch. Kazuo was all over it, but I was NOT feeling it. I do like the tinted ones on the red 180 above, but I think that's the only acception. Even tinted black just ain't doing it.

SochBAT
07-15-2005, 05:02 AM
If i had a hatch, id do that. 'Kouker' tail lights. Awesome +1.

Don't hate

Sean1978
07-15-2005, 06:41 AM
need to know the product name / price / location to buy the translucent red paint..

undercoverdjay
07-15-2005, 07:44 AM
If I knew where APC was located, I would walk in and beat the guy responsible for these to death with a box of civic tail lights and have the original development team from lexus set the building on fire. I HATE these lights on ANY car including the IS300.

Sean1978
07-15-2005, 08:24 AM
If I knew where APC was located, I would walk in and beat the guy responsible for these to death with a box of civic tail lights and have the original development team from lexus set the building on fire. I HATE these lights on ANY car including the IS300.

did you even read the rest of the thread? I think much everyone hates them already, we are talking about modifying them to make them look like OEM S13 kouki tails for less than $200 instead of $400 or greater....

mixedwell
07-15-2005, 09:18 AM
i remember a while back some guy was shipping these directly from china. there were also a bunch of civic lights but these ones looked super ugly to me. now the more i look at them and the more i think about it, i kinda like em. i kno i can get a hold of the guy... anyone intrested?

in my hood we call thsoe things euro lights. or just crappy. those tinted ones are hot tho.

-;)

kazuo
07-15-2005, 11:54 AM
Buncha haters.

The black housing Altezza lights = OMGWTFBBQ

If I had a hatch, I'd rock 'em.

ESPECIALLY if I had a black hatch. :)

240trainee
07-15-2005, 12:34 PM
The inner ricer in me likes this idea. hmmmmmmmmm. I bet you could heat the lights to melt the glue and paint the lenses from the inside, and seal them up well, ad ward off the leaks these cheap ebay lights are known for. for $130 plus paint, seems worth a try to me.

240trainee
07-15-2005, 12:39 PM
http://www.driftosenyou.com/pics/2004.12.11/025.jpg

And these look alot like the lights that are being put on alot of new cars, saw a lexus SUV like this. look around.

Gladman
07-16-2005, 12:38 PM
My tails... Car should be getting painted properly next month, it should look pretty nice when its done.

The tails dont fit very well, so ill warn anyone that wants to try this that the ebay tails are pretty junky and you'll have to mod the mounting a bit to get rid the the 1/2" gaps.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/black240sx/Jordan/Tails006.jpg

TheSparo
07-16-2005, 01:28 PM
i wAnna see this mod on the black housing... i think it would look better

ryan hagen
07-16-2005, 03:22 PM
did you have to use the oem trim panel or but a kouki one?


My tails... Car should be getting painted properly next month, it should look pretty nice when its done.

The tails dont fit very well, so ill warn anyone that wants to try this that the ebay tails are pretty junky and you'll have to mod the mounting a bit to get rid the the 1/2" gaps.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/black240sx/Jordan/Tails006.jpg

Yoshi
07-16-2005, 04:22 PM
did you have to use the oem trim panel or but a kouki one?

dude, kouki IS oem :P
U mean the lower trim piece or the kouki center panel?
The lower piece in only available oem (AFAIK), the center piece can be found all over ebay in many forms.

Gladman: hey not bad, but ya, even from this pic u can see the gaps are fairly bad, and that's AFTER u did a lot of custom trimming? wow. Before u paint, will you try to fill the gaps or just leave it as is and call it good enuff?

This should be a message to everyone talking about modding the crap ebay lights, if the housings themselves aren't the right size in the first place, it's REALLY going to look ricey, no matter how "good" the housings themselves look cosmetically.

Gladman
07-17-2005, 01:35 AM
Not to insult your judgement or anything but you cant see any of the gaps in the pic :D

The tail lights just have gloss black trim that looks like a gap. The gap was on the top side of the outside tails, the tail lights didnt mount in far enough and you could see a gap when looking from above.

And to answer a previous question, you dont need a new garnish, these bolt onto USDM 240s.

i8yourfwd
07-17-2005, 01:44 AM
Here's the thread on how to make them.

http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55108&highlight=bring+flames

TwoFourO
07-17-2005, 05:06 AM
Those look bad freakin' ass for the price. The all red with black center panel looks almost exactly like kouki's, except without the amber color. They look like the brand new RSX taillights which are awesome. Great job guys!

Gladman
07-17-2005, 12:55 PM
To add to that statement, you can get these altezza's for $80 on ebay now.

FaLKoN240
07-21-2005, 09:03 AM
Wow, $80, I'm seriously considering it. . .o god. I wanna mod them to the tinted red ones, I talked to Kazuo, and he believes that if I do that, the light output will be altered, what do you guys think? Is there any procedure I could take that would NOT change the output? (Besides not buy them.)

JaeTea
07-21-2005, 10:59 AM
http://www.driftosenyou.com/pics/2004.12.11/025.jpg

There must be something wrong with me cause I seriously like that look! :loco: