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AAA240SX
06-30-2005, 07:57 PM
I'm keeping my 240 as a project (garage) rather than my daily. So I'm looking for a 4 door sedan to takes its place. I have a couple of options that I'm looking at right now. Please provide any input or experience about any of my choice (if possible):

2004-2005 Lexus IS300
2002-2004 Audi A4
2002-2004 BMW 330Ci
2005 Benz C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan

Any input is appreciated.

My views as of now is in favor of the IS300. Any thoughts from you guys? :2f2f:

ranisron
06-30-2005, 08:11 PM
IS300, and must be a manual...

I drove one for the whole summer last year (sucks it was an auto). stock everything... the stock suspension likes to roll... this is a 2003 model I think. good gas mileage on highway as long as you keep your foot steady on the throttle.

330Ci is not really a "sedan", you meant by 330i? Personally I don't like beemers...
C230.... dealer likes to charge you a lot for service (wait... brand new car, then I am not sure)... The merc has some quality problems (as reference to the newest JD power report).
Audi - good car, expensive to service...

Edit: I hope my comments are useful.... I would be leaning toward the Is300 as well.

Ron

s14xman
06-30-2005, 08:19 PM
A4 all the way!!

dannyboi
06-30-2005, 08:22 PM
Fuck yea! A4!!!! Love that car!!!

Here's another option (thats cheaper): a 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS (thats the next car I'm getting... that or the A4).

BTW: Sedans rule.

AAA240SX
06-30-2005, 08:24 PM
If the IS I'd be going for the 5Spd. Manual tranny on all of these cars; auto = no fun...

s14xman: y do u recommend the a4? anything in particular that you like about it?

CaoBoY
06-30-2005, 08:29 PM
go baller status........LS 430! thats a pimp ass sedan, drop it, rims......VIP status, who cares about teh manual when its a vip car

EDIT: but then looking at ur list more closely.....its probably out of ur price range...ur looking about 34-42k huh, well the ls430 is running like 62k...but still pimp!

MakotoS13
06-30-2005, 08:50 PM
screw that bullcrap. HERE is the baller status:

http://www.carlist.com/newcars/2005/image/2005_doge_magnum.jpg

the original OG. MUSCLE CAR GROCERY GETTER.

own dem hoez.

dannyboi
06-30-2005, 08:50 PM
If the IS I'd be going for the 5Spd. Manual tranny on all of these cars; auto = no fun...

s14xman: y do u recommend the a4? anything in particular that you like about it?

My buddy has an A4... it ain't quattro but he LOVES it. But get a turbo with quattro.

s13speeddrft
06-30-2005, 08:55 PM
I've driven an IS300 before...nice ride, but could use a little bump on the stock power..in my opinion.

TheSnail
06-30-2005, 08:56 PM
Who wants an A4? Get a used S4. In midnight blue. :yum:

p11driver
06-30-2005, 09:05 PM
go with the 05 bmw 3 series.
http://taboclothing.com/05330i.jpg
http://taboclothing.com/05330i2.jpg
fuckin sick

Chernobyl
06-30-2005, 09:14 PM
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my mom's 1996 A4. And my friend just got a 2005 B7 version. I've never been in a B6, but I'm sure its a wonderful car just like the others.

IS300 is sexy as hell too.

Benz never did it for me.

If I were paying money for it, I'd probably go with IS300.

driftracer
06-30-2005, 09:23 PM
I think the IS300 is a good option as well, however, I might do some research into what Lexus plans to enter into the market next year '06. I believe Lexus is trying to compete with BMW's new 300 series and the G35.

I also got this from an '05 autoweek article:

'Good news for U.S. customers is the 3.5-liter V6 will produce upward of 300 hp and should easily propel the IS 350 from 0 to 60 mph in the low-five-second range, quicker than BMW's new 330i by nearly a second and substantially faster than the IS 300's 6.8-second time. The engines mate to six-speed manual and automatic transmissions, the automatic featuring steering wheel-mounted shift paddles. The IS 350 also gets a more performance-oriented version of VDIM, the integrated system that controls traction, stability, brakes and steering.'

There is going to be an IS250, 300, 350, and IS430. I have not done much research on their permformance stats, so I might do some research into those to see what kinda specs you're looking for. These are supposed to be, at least some of them, be introduced next year sometime.

The only two downsides I see about this bit of info, is the fact that you have to wait some, and well most cars have some kinks that need to be straightened out in the first year of production. Most customers complain and its fixed by the next year. Take that for what its worth.

Again, I think the IS300 is a good choice, but if you have some time, the '06 models should get some consideration. :)

Chernobyl
06-30-2005, 10:00 PM
btw, G35 is out of the question? They don't look absolutely great in 4 door, but still a nice car..

s14xman
06-30-2005, 10:22 PM
I have driven the a4 plenty when i used to valet cars in sac and it was far better IMO that the rest on your list quattro turbo can't be beat it is so damn fun. I think they look really nice and there is a lot of aftermarket potential

infinitexsound
06-30-2005, 10:36 PM
cressida owns..... i dont care what anyone has to say about how i feel , id be content with a cressida

richardxfeng
06-30-2005, 11:34 PM
cressida owns..... i dont care what anyone has to say about how i feel , id be content with a cressida

What he said~~~

atom
06-30-2005, 11:47 PM
WRX..........but on that list the A4 as long as it's a 1.8T Quattro.

FaLKoN240
07-01-2005, 12:57 AM
If the IS I'd be going for the 5Spd. Manual tranny on all of these cars; auto = no fun...

s14xman: y do u recommend the a4? anything in particular that you like about it?

I believe the IS manny is a 6 speed.

fliprayzin240sx
07-01-2005, 02:22 AM
GS300 swapped with a supra 2jz bottom end and boost it like no tomorrow. Or go GS400 with a supercharger. =p

As far as brand new car...ive been inlove with the damn Infinity M45s
http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-10421-202948-459/06%20M45.jpg

http://www.automotivearticles.com/uploads/m45.jpg

http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/i/veh/veh_gal_m_wallpaper_14.jpg

kenshinS14sks
07-01-2005, 02:49 AM
go a3 sportback like my friend ninja vanish aka uber d0rk

http://www.lltek.com/images/riegertek/A3_8P/A3_8P_5dr_RIEA38P_01_plusskrts_Z_2.jpg
http://www.lltek.com/images/riegertek/A3_8P/RIE_A3_8P_01_spoiler_fllfrnt_Z.jpg
http://www.lltek.com/images/riegertek/A3_8P/A3_8P_5dr_RIEA38P_05_plusskrts_Z.jpg

AAA240SX
07-01-2005, 07:56 AM
Ok, well...

I'm not too fond of the G35, the 4Dr is ugly as hell to me. :(
I also looked into waiting for the IS350, but I don't like the look either.
http://images.my.is/gallery/data/537/1IMG_4591-med.jpg
Doesn't impress me too much, I like the original model better...

From the feedback I see, it seems like I can narrow some down (according to this opinions and a couple comments made by locals):

2005 Lexus IS300
2002-2005 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

Any further input?

BoroBoroS13
07-01-2005, 10:10 AM
IS300 is a great car but overpriced due to high demand. I would go with a 98 GS400 cause it runs low 14's stock, handles pretty damn good for what it is, and the brakes are great. Best of all, same price as a IS300 in most cases.

If your gonna get an A4, get a last gen S4. They are going for cheap right now but I did notice prices went a little up recently for these cars.

Dont even look at BMW... Im sorry, my friends repair shop is littered with them and I cant support such a unreliable car.

The Benz looks awsome and I love the brakes on that thing but I havent driven or been in one.

Have you looked at the Infiniti G20? I had an 02 and loved it but then got into S13's. They handle and brake great but are a little slow stock. The really cool thing is they come with an SR20DE from factory so all you need to do is turbo that ish and your good to go. Best thing is, they are dirt cheap.

Stock-S13
07-01-2005, 02:03 PM
Nissan Maxima VQ35: Damn powerful car, likes to turns well.
Nissan Altima QR25: Torquey, good on gas, moms new car.
Nissan Altima SER-VQ35: sporty, damn powerful! didn't get to beat on it though, ok Aero tons of space for the family.

And well you always have your GS,LS, G35, M45 etc... never drove those though.

420sx
07-01-2005, 02:14 PM
na. Audi dude, audi. love those cars. i will own one one day and it will be far from stock haha

Yuri
07-01-2005, 03:17 PM
I bought an Evo VIII as my daily. It's awesome. You should get one.

420sx
07-01-2005, 03:21 PM
evo? fuck no.

the head
07-01-2005, 03:36 PM
If you go the mercedes route get the previous body style C230 kompessor sport they are of much higher quality than the models produced as the next body style came out...the only year of the current body without problems is this year they finally gout the bugs out. As for bimmer i have many frineds that drive late model bmws and i have found the e36 as a very enjoyable car and the e46 as well I have seen the little detail shit go wrong on occasion but i havent seen anything serious that did not stem from neglect or improper maintainance.

91CRXsiR
07-01-2005, 06:51 PM
that IS350 looks like a 4 door Scion TC..

sedan.. what about the TSX or TL? they both look nice, and have decent power. Not TOO expensive.. or you can be typical and get the IS/Beemer/Benz after a rice rocket..

the way gas prices are right now... i'd go accord v6 hybrid

fliprayzin240sx
07-02-2005, 06:31 AM
go a3 sportback like my friend ninja vanish aka uber d0rk

http://www.lltek.com/images/riegertek/A3_8P/A3_8P_5dr_RIEA38P_01_plusskrts_Z_2.jpg
http://www.lltek.com/images/riegertek/A3_8P/RIE_A3_8P_01_spoiler_fllfrnt_Z.jpg
http://www.lltek.com/images/riegertek/A3_8P/A3_8P_5dr_RIEA38P_05_plusskrts_Z.jpg

Wow....i like!!! Rear reminds me too much a Golf tho. Audi could have redesigned it a tad more different.

nlzmo400r
07-02-2005, 10:45 AM
assuming you wont mod this car much (if at all) id say you've got two choices........

if you want FWD: altima SE-R (sportier 265hp 6spd v6)
if you want RWD: is300 (pimper<yes thats a word> smooth riding luxo car)

Irukandji
07-03-2005, 12:18 AM
hmm...im stuck between the 330i and IS300.

I've driven a 6 speed IS300 and boy that thing felt nice. Not too slow, not too fast, just right for daily driving. The car rides like a dream but BMW's handle better IMHO.

I never drove a 330i, but i drove a 328i 5 speed (assuming theyre pretty similar), i was impressed with the 328... but they're eveywhere.


errr both those cars make me kinda nervous.. maintenance charges are gonna kill u. $2k for a new flywheel for the IS300 :-\.

eh i dunno where im going with this.. im tired.. good night

RightWheelDrive
07-03-2005, 02:22 AM
I would go with the IS300. My other car is a Lexus and that thing is built like a tank. Its just a given in the lexus community. A+ reliability. I was driving the lexus for three years before I got my 240 and I never had to buy or fix anything except the wear and tear items (brake pads, oil filters, etc....). Lexus/Toyota reliabilty just can't be beat. I drove my friend's A4 1.8T and did not like it all too much, the steering feels disconnected, engine check light and airbag lights going off all the time, and brakes were too mushy. The I6 would be much better for daily driving. Go with the IS300 and you won't be dissappointed. Ultimately IMO, the choice is if you want to fix your car up to run or fix your car for fun.

AAA240SX
07-04-2005, 04:58 AM
ok took a look and test drove an 05 5Speed IS300. It'll run me $550 a month for a 60mo. contract...what yall thinks?

WanganRunner
07-05-2005, 12:14 PM
evo? fuck no.

What's wrong with an Evo?

I would NOT finance the Lexus like that man...$550/mo for the next 5 years is gonna hurt sooner or later. If you don't have the cash to put like half or more down on the focker, wait until you do or buy something cheaper. Debt sucks.

SR240DET
07-05-2005, 05:56 PM
screw that bullcrap. HERE is the baller status:

http://www.carlist.com/newcars/2005/image/2005_doge_magnum.jpg

the original OG. MUSCLE CAR GROCERY GETTER.

own dem hoez.

not a fan of station wagons....

drftwerks
07-05-2005, 06:31 PM
95-96 + LS400

95-96 + Q45

300 Hemi

dannyboi
07-05-2005, 06:58 PM
ok took a look and test drove an 05 5Speed IS300. It'll run me $550 a month for a 60mo. contract...what yall thinks?

Thats a rip off. Maybe its just me, but IS300s are not looking too good these days (too boxy for a new car).

Honestly, I think you can get a new Suby STI for probably the same or less (which is good considering you'll have a boosted AWD 4-door).Get it in black... you'll fall in love. I was looking on ebay, and some *dealers* were listing brand new STIs for 28K (under 100 miles).

Unless, your looking for elegance rather than performance.

sLiDewAys
07-05-2005, 11:16 PM
toyota cressida- can be had for under 2k perfect host for 1,2jz or even 7mgte
toyota te71 1.8 corolla and yes they come 4 door- can be had for under 1,000 from most sellers. perfect host for 3sgte or 4ag model motors.

if u wana hang with the big boys then import something.
a31 nissan cefiro- come with sr20det i believe, but ive seen rb20's in them as well. can be had shipped to us for under 15,000
c33 nissan Laurel- can be had for under 15,000 as well depending on milage and blah blah blah its JDM ppl u got the picture. i believe these came with rb20 as well.


or u can take a s13 silvia and do major body work to come out with the worlds first 4 door s13 silvia coupe:)

S14DriftR
07-10-2005, 12:21 PM
Drftwerks posted the exact 2 cars im considering now. IS300 and a4 and all those small sporty sedans look like a damn boy racer crackerjack prizes. The big bodied cars, a8, 7series bmw, Q45, M45, LS400, GS430 all looks so much more classy. If you already have a 240 why do you want another flashy cheap looking car, especially one that comes with altezzas :-/