I used to be the only one, now they are everywhere

[DSC]

At the beginning of the school year, guess who was the only one with a 240. Yes, ME. Then a couple months later a 94 s13 showed up. Now there is an 89-90 coupe and another 95-96 s14. DAMNIT! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> We are talking about a LITTLE school here. My graduating class this year is 20. Bla, everybody in my school sucks. They like body kits and NOS and rice rice rice. Not only that, but they are fucking stupid...they don't know shit about NOS or anything but they like it. The license plate on the new s14 at school is "drift 2" WTF! I'm glad they are out of production...when they wreck their cars drifting they will just have to find a nice honda.
damn F&F!

[will]

yea, I don't know who to place the blame on, I'll just say the recent popularity of Initial D, is that ok??? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[AceInHole]

I like Lance's idea of Darwinism.....


Anyways, that just means more parts for those who actually know how to drive, although it's unfortunate that it will be at the price of a perfectly good 240sx.....

Anyways.... we're all screwed untill the curb-humpers find a new trend to play with.

[sil80]

Hmmm I dont think it has that much to do with Initial D. If that was the case you would see a bunch of swapped out GT-S with tofu shop stickers on them.
I think it has more to do with SCC, super street and every other mag in the last couple months that have been featuring the 240 series.
Plus you got to look at all the shops out there that let like option videos run all day. Which with that you have all these little rich kids coming in and going damn I wish I could do that. Well the F&F didnt help either.
I guess I dont look at it in a completely neg way cause it just means more parts for us at a cheaper price and maybe a few more people to bs with.

DSC do you know the kids? Can you like convert them to good side &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
It would give you some people locally to hang with.

[sykikchimp]

Yeah, and they seem to want to race more now. &nbsp;Like I feel like I get revved at more often, and more people check out my car than they used to. &nbsp;It's kinda weird. &nbsp;Not sure if I like the extra attention. &nbsp;I kinda liked being incognito.. LOL

[boosteds14]

same thing happened to me, not with the 240sx
i used to own an Integra and i Supercharged it, when people found out and saw my car, since it was totally show, kids parents started to buy their children Integras
i was the &nbsp;first to own one, now &nbsp;everbody owns one

[SR20Fastback]

sorta same thing happened to me with my old car. I was the first to own a 4th generation Prelude at my school, next thing I know just 4 months down the road everyones driving them. Not only at my school but ALL around town (and I lived in a VERY small town) It made me really mad that I had thought so hard to try to be original, and then have it all pissed away. I know I wasnt the first person to ever drive a prelude, but they were fairly rare in my area. Probably one of the reasons I sold it!

[HippoSleek]

My last car was a Civic Si hatch that I'd owned since it was 1.5 years old... before b16 or ITR swaps. &nbsp;

Now I have the 240... which is becomming annoyingly popular. &nbsp;Look at the bright side.. at least our cars will finally have a resale value &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[sykikchimp]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ April 11 2002,5:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">at least our cars will finally have a resale value <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
OH PLEASE! &nbsp;It would be So nice to be able to actually get some of the money back out of my car when I sell it one day for the Future kickass nissan sports coupe..

[DSC]

Well, I went back up to school today...never made it to any of my classes but I drove up there twice <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Anyway I checked out the s14 (couldn't find the owner) its an SE 5spd with cloth interior. Looks stock...prolly cauz he just bought it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Looked like he had some nice tires, but I didn't check what they were. I'm excited about the community growing and stuff but the people here are beyond hope. "With other NOS systems they have to drill a hole into the cylinder, with this new one, they can just run one line into the intake" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> this comming from someone who wanted to get a 240 like mine.

[whateverjames]

i'd say it's initial d's fault. i hear a lot of people saying initial d is what got them into 240's and drifting. before i even came to this board, someone said my car was similar to a car in initial d. (of course, it really isn't)

[Takumi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ April 11 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'd say it's initial d's fault. i hear a lot of people saying initial d is what got them into 240's and drifting. before i even came to this board, someone said my car was similar to a car in initial d. (of course, it really isn't)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Er..don't look at me. &nbsp;I've been into 240SX's since 1996 back when I saw 180SX's, S13's and S14's (they were NEW at the time!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> on Option Magazine, Carboy, and stuff. Even back then I was talked into thinking Hondas were way too popular. &nbsp;THIS WAS IN 1996!

Then I saw Initial D and I thought drifting was cool and something that takes tons of practice to understand the science and the technique of how to control the car. &nbsp;hell, I still don't understand drifting since I've never done it before. &nbsp;Never said I did. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Aw fvck that then, I'm getting myself a 2000-2001 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS.

[thewholefnshow]

I fell in love with my s14a the first time I saw one. I loved how it looked and had to have one, I started stuying like mad about it and found out things like RWD, Multilink and 50/50 wd and there was no way I could pass it up... then came initial d, then I bought the car, and now we are at the point were there is a 240sx in every months super street or scc... frankly, I don't care, the care is so fuckin rare in quebec that they can look all the want they won't find many s14a's, and like someone said, they get crashed and the die, 240's will go extinct due to idiots, that's why I am glad there are a few good people like SOME of the folks on here who really know that the car they have will probably go down as a classic car of our time. I know my 240 will be around for many more years in my possesion, and I wouldn't mind it taking up space in a big garage till the day I die... I will never get bored of it.

[junia]

You know, that happens everytime you buy a new car. &nbsp;You'll buy a car that you don't see any of in the place that you live and BAM!!! &nbsp;they just start popping out of every street corner.

[91blk240]

just be thankful you didn't fall in love with a mustang....look at those poor bastards, they have so many on the streets that there is nothing unique about them.

[danwagar]

wtf is initial d. &nbsp;i keep on hearing bad things about it...something to do w/ drifting. &nbsp;i guess it can't hurt for me to know what it is, im already set on buying a s13 and making it a sylvia....call me a poser if you want! &nbsp;i really don't understand when people say im into drifting i was alway into it before i even knew it was something you could be into, it is like saying im into going around turns. &nbsp;it seems to me to be a naturaly extension of driving at the edge of a cars limits, and that is what i enjoy, driving at the edge.

[will]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (danwagar @ April 10 2002,11:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wtf is initial d. i keep on hearing bad things about it...something to do w/ drifting. i guess it can't hurt for me to know what it is...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Initial D is this animated series in Japan that has episodes of shall I say "kids" racing and drifting. &nbsp;Its actually kinda neat since I don't think there are to many shows like it. &nbsp;They drift Silvias, Skilines, AE86's etc...
http://www.asylum-anime.com/pkits/pk_id_sil80a.jpg
here's a pic
-will

[danwagar]

oh. &nbsp;that is pimp i wish i had cartoons like that when i was a kid. &nbsp;do they play that in america??

[drifterX87]

They dont play or sell it in America, at least at major stores. &nbsp;You can buy it from Animeniacs.org (http://www.animeniacs.org/)for 80 bucks US. &nbsp;This includes the whole series and Movie. &nbsp;yes, all three seasons. &nbsp;If you want it you better act now because its going to be licensed soon and he wont be selling it. &nbsp;Just go to anime DVD's and then Initial D. &nbsp;Pretty cool show after you get used to the Computer animated race scenes.

Mike

[Broadwayblues]

Will that is some bad-az artwork there. You have anymore on a website anywhere? I would like to see that cartoon myself.

[Broadwayblues]

Well to answer my own question, it's on amazon.com and ebay. I just don't know which one to get..

[drifterX87]

What are you talking about?

Mike

[Broadwayblues]

I was telling Will that his artwork was cool. I found some Initial D on ebay and amazon.com. That's all... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[fungus]

yeah um.. just a reminder.. drifting a turn is slower than driving it.

[Kreator]

Heh, well I don't think my area is paying real close attention to 240s... well the old ones (89-94) are kinda popular, but that was even when i just joined the campus (2 yrs ago). Right now I think the whole UMCP (University of Maryland College Park) campus has only 2 95+ sxs, mine 97 and some other guy's sexy green 96 240.... I never could get a hold of him though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

Kre

[nrcooled]

Whoa! &nbsp;This is what I have been waiting for. &nbsp;The 240 to come around and be recognized for the superior car that it is. &nbsp;I too, like all in the forum, are sick of only seeing civics on the news stands and on TV. &nbsp;hell, I want affordable parts too like the civics and the more people who buy them the more available they will be. &nbsp;

I have been an owner and lover of my 240 since 96 when I bought her used and I wouldn't see one on the road at all. &nbsp;Yes I was unique but at the same time I would have liked to been able to bs about a common love with another gear head. &nbsp;Since scc put out the silvia conversion sr swap I have been getting sooooo many coments on my swap and a lot of guys are really into it.

I think it is just more and more shitty civics with their pipes and multiple gauges are going to start getting their arses kicked by a real sports car and not a converted family mobile. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Gankaz]

hmmm hey these things happen to me too.....

but...maybe its not like that at all??

just because you just bought this car that u really love and that u know its every curve/edge of its body that when ever you are drivin around or what ever u start noticing more and more of these cars? because you are driving 1 of them?? dunno
this maybe the case......cause im definitly sure there wasn't that much 200sx(australia) in my town.....untill i started driving 1 around..!!

[drifterX87]

Having a large aftermarket is good, but you have to remember: the conversion is huge right now; ie people with civics are ricing out their shit-mobiles and sticking S14 and S15 front ends on them. &nbsp;this is also bringing a bad name to imports. &nbsp;Just because these cars we have are high and mighty, gaining in popularity, and getting things stolen from them. &nbsp;They should keep the market as it is and burn all of the issues of Stupid Street. &nbsp;

Mike

If this didnt make sense to you it was kinda confusing to me too! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

[AceInHole]

240sx aftermarket is fine as it is.

drifting can be faster than a grip line, depending on the situation.

It's not that we need more 240's around, we just need good owners. &nbsp;Only YOU can prevent badly custimization of 240sx's.

[Broadwayblues]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's not that we need more 240's around, we just need good owners. &nbsp;Only YOU can prevent badly custimization of 240sx's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I agree, it's someone special who doesn't follow the crowd, does a little homework and sees that our cars are much better. This forum is a huge outlet of information, so much better then any magazine I've read. Honda this CIVIC that. &nbsp;We are growing though, I do have a &nbsp;subscription to sport compact car and the cover was a 240 drift machine under $3000. So it's going to come around. just need to remember the 'old schoolers' like you guys who were here first!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'>

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Broadwayblues @ April 14 2002,10:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do have a subscription to sport compact car and the cover was a 240 drift machine under $3000. So it's going to come around. just need to remember the 'old schoolers' like you guys who were here first!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LoL... &nbsp;that's the mag where I bitch at them for saying the 350z has bad specific output compared to a Honda, and they bitch back twisting my words to argue a whole different point.

[tnord]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ April 16 2002,08:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Broadwayblues @ April 14 2002,10:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do have a subscription to sport compact car and the cover was a 240 drift machine under $3000. So it's going to come around. just need to remember the 'old schoolers' like you guys who were here first!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LoL... that's the mag where I bitch at them for saying the 350z has bad specific output compared to a Honda, and they bitch back twisting my words to argue a whole different point.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
now pj....tsk tsk.....we've already discussed your issues with SCC. i thought we came to the conclusion that SCC may overemphasize specific output a bit while you underemphasize. i also thought we agreed that a high revving engine is more responsive high in the rpm range (although i don't remember the reasoning for it.) needless to say, i think it should be said that SCC is the best and most accurate import magazine available to us here in the US.

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ April 14 2002,11:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ April 16 2002,08:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Broadwayblues @ April 14 2002,10:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do have a subscription to sport compact car and the cover was a 240 drift machine under $3000. So it's going to come around. just need to remember the 'old schoolers' like you guys who were here first!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LoL... that's the mag where I bitch at them for saying the 350z has bad specific output compared to a Honda, and they bitch back twisting my words to argue a whole different point.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
now pj....tsk tsk.....we've already discussed your issues with SCC. i thought we came to the conclusion that SCC may overemphasize specific output a bit while you underemphasize. i also thought we agreed that a high revving engine is more responsive high in the rpm range (although i don't remember the reasoning for it.) needless to say, i think it should be said that SCC is the best and most accurate import magazine available to us here in the US.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LoL... i'll agree to that. &nbsp;SCC has a lot more actual info in it than other mags.... even though that doesn't say much.

Higher RPM = more responsive because the velocity of the crank is higher, which means a higher frequency of combustion, which in turn leads to quicker response to throttle input. Something like that.

[ca18guy]

Was that you that wrote that letter to SCC? I remember sitting on the shitter happy someone finally said who cares about high hp per liter engines, then getting pissed as hell reading there reply <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Nice letter &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ April 14 2002,12:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Was that you that wrote that letter to SCC? I remember sitting on the shitter happy someone finally said who cares about high hp per liter engines, then getting pissed as hell reading there reply <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Nice letter <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, that was me. &nbsp;I'm about to write a response or something.... saying how i've seen the light and that Suzuki must be the greatest maker of inline 4 engines (187hp, 1.3L) and I'm gonna get rid of my KA24DE and tell all my friends that &nbsp;F20C's (Honda's best HP/ L engine [in a car], 240hp, 2.0L) suck serious ass, then proceed to swap in a Hayabusa 1.3L engine because apparently their technology is so great.

Specific output is cool and all, but my point is that it doesn't mean much, since there are engines out there that make a shitload more than any Honda engine (120HP .6L Yamaha??) but aren't technilogically advanced as SCC points out they should be.