Nagisa auto super low seat rails?

[Blues13]

Anyone have any experiences with these seat rails? Seem pricey, but might be a good alternative to the Brides. I'd like to have some feedback on the height compared to stock/wedge/bride if anyone has these..

found them at driftfactory:
http://www.driftfactory.com/product_info.php?products_id=1141

[Salty_X]

"This seat rail is identical to the Bride "FG" type seat rail."

Yeah, I can see how it would be a good alternative...

[Dousan_PG]

i know someone who bought htem..will they reveal themselves? should be here soon and we'll know if any lower.

[gmckey]

Only plus I can see to them over the Bride rails is most likely availability. I got my FG for less than that, but I lucked out and happened to order just as they were coming in.

[twong85]

Aren't those more expensive than Bride FG rails? If they are then I don't see how they'd be a good alternative if they're exactly the same.

[Blues13]

I meant that they are good alternative because of the availability. AFAIK, only the Bride brackets and JDM recaros sit really low and are hard to find at times. Basically, the more options the better. If these become popular, then I'll be sure to snatch them up for less on a used set if they ever pop up.. hehe.

[A Spec Products]

i know someone who bought htem..will they reveal themselves? should be here soon and we'll know if any lower.

:aw: That would be me!

AFAIK I have the only set on order! Go me!

I was trying to keep it on the DL until I got it (1-2 weeks more), then post up specs and comparison. I checked the demo version out, more beefy and slides easier (ball rollers I think rather than ball bearings) but I'll post up a review or pics as soon as they come in. FG is still dope though, good position/fitment and price.

Retail price is CHEAPER than FG ($165 vs. $175) but in the end you're paying pretty much the same (street price around $155 or so, maybe price difference of $5).

I like saving money as much as the other guy, but don't be a cheapskate, otherwise the market will be flooded with cheap knockoff crap. Support real products and companies and they'll take care of you, get the real deal the first time.

Much better alternative to Bride simply because if you preorder a set you are guaranteed to get one, rather than hoping that you'll get your backorder filled from Bride. I was waiting over 12 weeks for one FG for me personally (then gave up and ordered Nagisa), and I was forced to make 4 of my customers wait 4-6 weeks for their FG's.

ETA is 4 weeks special order from Japan (until they are stocked in USA), because Nagisa is a small company and has to produce these in smaller quantities.

I'm not knocking Bride, but the guys at More Japan take better care of me :)

[Mike Wazowski]

Bride rails are in stock in the U.S., check your Bride dealers.

[A Spec Products]

Bride rails are in stock in the U.S., check your Bride dealers.

You might want to say "were."

Their backorder list is HUGE, but yeah, call around and someone might have some left in stock. Anyone want passenger sides :) ? Those are abundant right now obviously hehe.

[Blues13]

:aw: That would be me!

I checked the demo version out, more beefy and slides easier (ball rollers I think rather than ball bearings) but I'll post up a review or pics as soon as they come in.

I like saving money as much as the other guy, but don't be a cheapskate, otherwise the market will be flooded with cheap knockoff crap. Support real products and companies and they'll take care of you, get the real deal the first time.



Awesome.. that's what I was hoping to hear. Looking forward to your write up.

[More Japan]

Hello everyone,

To clear things up on the Nagisa Auto SLR's (Super Low Rails)--

The Nagisa rails are actually quite different from the Bride FG's. The Nagisa SLR's have several internal roller bearings (small wheels inside) with a mechanical adjustment lever + spring that works like OEM, so the way the slider works in comparison is actually much much different. The Bride uses greased ball bearings, and the adjustment level is wire activated, and must be locked. The Nagisa SLR slides very similar to stock seat rails. The only significant similarity with the FG is found in the fitment applications.

The retail price is actually lower than those in comparison, and availability will increase as Nagisa is working on increasing production. If the seat rails are not in stock, turnaround time should never be more than 4-6 weeks. (It typically takes 3 weeks for container ships to travel from Japan port to US port and offload here)

If anyone has any other questions about these, please let us know!

[BOMEX180]

You might want to say "were."

Their backorder list is HUGE, .

There should be a shipment coming in 1st week of July. By the time it gets here, its already sold :faint:

[sykikchimp]

Hello everyone,

To clear things up on the Nagisa Auto SLR's (Super Low Rails)--

The Nagisa rails are actually quite different from the Bride FG's. The Nagisa SLR's have several internal roller bearings (small wheels inside) with a mechanical adjustment lever + spring that works like OEM, so the way the slider works in comparison is actually much much different. The Bride uses greased ball bearings, and the adjustment level is wire activated, and must be locked. The Nagisa SLR slides very similar to stock seat rails. The only significant similarity with the FG is found in the fitment applications.

The retail price is actually lower than those in comparison, and availability will increase as Nagisa is working on increasing production. If the seat rails are not in stock, turnaround time should never be more than 4-6 weeks. (It typically takes 3 weeks for container ships to travel from Japan port to US port and offload here)

If anyone has any other questions about these, please let us know!

Will these rails work with Sparco fixed back seats?

[A Spec Products]

Yes, the rails should fit on any side mount Sparco: Corsa, Rev, Pro2000, Evo.

Anything wider than 400mm wide won't work obviously.

Here's some pics provided by More Japan, my rail should be here next week, I'll review it then.

http://www.aspecproducts.com/forums/zilvia/nagisarails.jpg

Sorry for the blurry roller pic, I just tried to blow it up to show the detail.

[A Spec Products]

Rails came in yesterday, bolted em in to test fit.

Impressions:

-Low position, mounts flush and low to transmission tunnel/hump
-Bolts in no problem, no bending no pulling no headache.
-Beefy brackets, thicker in width than FG IIRC.
-Rollers slide easily, we will see how they last over time, smoother movement than ball bearings

Downside:

-Doesn't come with free Nagisa Auto t shirt :)

[BOMEX180]

To bad I sold my Bride FG's already to compare. But quality wise, looking at the picture Bride's are better IMO. That one pictured looks like it'll work with Bride sidemounted seats...

Logan, so you only have 1 set?

[A Spec Products]

To bad I sold my Bride FG's already to compare. But quality wise, looking at the picture Bride's are better IMO. That one pictured looks like it'll work with Bride sidemounted seats...

Logan, so you only have 1 set?

Yes, it works with any side mounted seat under 400mm wide.

I have the only set they brought into the USA for now. In mid July I get my stocking shipment.

Check the email

[qt_240]

i would like to order a pair both driver and passenger side.. please PM me.. with more details..

[jookybanana]

here is some pics of bride fg
looks like the bride is a little taller on the front part of the rail, and sinks lower near the rear part of the rails, front part of the rail is 12cm from the floor, and rear is about 8cm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/2005_0624_184022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/2005_0624_184222.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/2005_0624_184627.jpg

and on the pic of the nagisa rail looks like the side mount brackets might be facing inside out?

[ALTRNTV]

Aww boo. My seat (Chargespeed) won't fit on these rails.

http://www.chargespeed.com/photo/seat2/size_shark.jpg

[Giant Robot]

just put on the NAMS sidemount rails using a Bride Zeta II in an S14, purchased from ASpec who got them for me in a couple days (in stock of course):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jerry_Heaven/J%20Lines/IMG_2452.jpg
only thing that was missing were the bolts that go from the sidemount to the seat, but i would think that all seats have different sized threads...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jerry_Heaven/J%20Lines/IMG_2453.jpg
here's the left side and the only side with the adjustment lever.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jerry_Heaven/J%20Lines/IMG_2455.jpg
about 4inches from the floor to the top of the back rail

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jerry_Heaven/J%20Lines/IMG_2456.jpg
about 3.5 inches from the floor to the top of the front rail

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jerry_Heaven/J%20Lines/IMG_2457.jpg
installed

here are Bride FG rails courtesy of Jookybanana:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/2005_0624_184022.jpg
as you can see its slightly tilted back

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/2005_0624_184222.jpg
about 4.5-4.75 inches from the floor to the top of the front rail

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/2005_0624_184627.jpg
about 3 inches from the floor to the top of the back rail


as you can see the sidemounts have alot of adjustment forward/backward and up/down....You wouldnt adjust the forward/backwards at all since its sort of a universal position necessary for various cars...But you can adjust height with 3 different holes, mine being set on the lowest and it actually feels lower than my Brix I on MO Rails... I like the feel of the adjustment lever better than the Bride FG's because of 2 reasons: A) super smooth oem-like slide, B) you only have to use one lever as opposed to two levers on the FG's. One lever makes it a hell of a lot easier and quicker.

one thing i also noticed on Bride FG's and Zeta buckets are that they are somewhat tilted back. The Nams is not tilted as much and is quite a noticeable tilt between the Bride FG's...

[kingsol]

do the new rails make the seat sit more to the left like the fg's do?

[Ritz S14]

Since you only adjust the rail on one side, does the other side slide when you brake/accelerate?

[Giant Robot]

Since you only adjust the rail on one side, does the other side slide when you brake/accelerate?

no it does not... it's got its own locking mechanism too...
since it's bolted down pretty tight, the right side rail without the adjustment wont move anywhere...

[A Spec Products]

nice writeup giant robot!

small note though, the bolts for the seat arent "missing" they are supposed to come with the seat you purchase. either that or go to some specialty hardware store for some grade 8 bolts.

[OMGWTFBBQ]

I just got my set and installed them with my buddy club seat. I think they're pretty good. Good height, easy install, same thing as the FG. I'd just buy whatevers in stock btwn the two of them.

[driftfactory]

Anyone have any experiences with these seat rails? Seem pricey, but might be a good alternative to the Brides. I'd like to have some feedback on the height compared to stock/wedge/bride if anyone has these..

found them at driftfactory:
http://www.driftfactory.com/product_info.php?products_id=1141


These seat rails have proved to be quite popular. We have a number of driver side, passenger side and of course both sides in stock for the Nissan 240SX S13 S14 S15 Skyline R32 R33 R34

[trackstar]

small note though, the bolts for the seat arent "missing" they are supposed to come with the seat you purchase. either that or go to some specialty hardware store for some grade 8 bolts.


Can't you reuse the factory bolts? My Recaro seat didn't come with any, but I could just as easily go to the hardware store and pick some up (I called Recaro for the proper size), but I thought you could reuse the oem bolts.

[A Spec Products]

Can't you reuse the factory bolts? My Recaro seat didn't come with any, but I could just as easily go to the hardware store and pick some up (I called Recaro for the proper size), but I thought you could reuse the oem bolts.

i think so, someone did it here or somewhere. i think it was one of my customers.

any hardware bolt that works is ok...i just prefer using something strong like grade 8 bolts.

[lilredstiffy]

Yep the stock seat bolts worked fine on my seat (recaro pp), I borrowed the ones off the bottom cushion on my seat and they are the same thread.

Rails work great, due to my seat's design I can't put it lower without some tweaking, but even on the highest hole its about 1-2 inches lower than stock seat. Lots of adjustment, and slider feels really solid.

here's a pic

http://members.cox.net/walton90/recaro1.jpg

[clean]

they hooked me up and held a set for me, this company is "probaly the best i know of" and i thank them much, can't wait to get my rails. logan you are the man. can't wait

[TEAMMiSCHiEFS14]

one thing i also noticed on Bride FG's and Zeta buckets are that they are somewhat tilted back. The Nams is not tilted as much and is quite a noticeable tilt between the Bride FG's...

couldn't you just use the middle slot for the front bracket and the lowest slot on the rear bracket and get the "tilt" effect like the Bride FG's?

[BOMEX180]

couldn't you just use the middle slot for the front bracket and the lowest slot on the rear bracket and get the "tilt" effect like the Bride FG's?

I think he's complaning abou tthe "tilt" effect the FG rails does.

Have you tried using the holes on the brackets. WHen I installed a pair of zeta 3's on my celica, I used both middle holes, the bucket's leaning back. But, then I used the front lowest hole and reh rear highest hole...fixed the problem

[Giant Robot]

couldn't you just use the middle slot for the front bracket and the lowest slot on the rear bracket and get the "tilt" effect like the Bride FG's?

whoops...what i meant is that the Bride FG's are tiltled back more vs. the Nams rails with the same hole configuration...

[knowleqe]

can i use the bolts that came with my bride fg on the nams rail to my seat [buddy club]?

[Dousan_PG]

why not test and find out? probably takes..mm 1 minute.

need that lean baby. logan knows whats up haha..

[knowleqe]

will do this thursday dousan

[A Spec Products]

why not test and find out? probably takes..mm 1 minute.

need that lean baby. logan knows whats up haha..

gangster leaning is for sissies

didn't your mother tell you to sit up straight doushe-an?

proper posture crew, act like you know!


can i use the bolts that came with my bride fg on the nams rail to my seat [buddy club]?

yes, you should be able to use the same bolts, but like dousan said, just take one off and try. if you're referring to the ones that bolt the brackets to the rail, then no i dont think so.

[mmtmatrix]

I also have the Nagisa Rails in my S13 with my Borde racing Carbon Kevlar bucket, I like them nagisa rails cause I was able to pick them up the same day I got them (which meant a drive from San bernardino up north in rush hour, but atleast i got them, cant say that for the brids, and I know quite a few shops), but I am a sucker for in stock, when I decide I want something, I want it yesterday.

Anyway, can tell honestly which is better cause I havent compared S13 to S13 bride to nagisa side by side, with the same seat, but I love mine, and they are way easier to adjust slider position than my buddies zeta 3, w/ FG rail...

Sorry, no bad ass picture of the seat

Malcolm

[driftfactory]

We just finished installing these rails with Signal Auto buckets on the DF car. I can say that these are the best rails I've seen in a long time. I never liked the way the Bride rails tilted back and these also seem to slide a lot more smoothly than my old bride rails. I've got some more coming in if anyone wants a set.

http://www.driftfactory.com/nagisarailsdfcar.jpg

http://www.driftfactory.com/signalinstalled.jpg

[MikeFD3S]

L33t

the slider on the bride rails is a real pain in the ass

[tougefactory]

We have Bride Seat rails instock, both driver and passenger side.

www.tougefactory.com

[SoSideways]

Bringing this thread back up from the dead, because I have a few questions about the newer Nagisa rails, versus their older ones that were talked about in this thread.

Are their newer rails about the same as the older rails, in terms of the tilt?

The Bride FG seems to really tilt back, and because of this, the previous owner of this SPL bucket seat that I got, along with the Bride FG rail, had to modify the FG rail so that it didn't have such a severe gangsta lean.

Here are some pics of the seat installed w/ the modified FG rails. Please don't mind how dirty the interior is, I will vacuum it and clean it up once I have some time, since this car will no longer be used as a doggy transporter lol

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/SoSideways/seat_rails/P8030006copy.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/SoSideways/seat_rails/P8030007copy.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/SoSideways/seat_rails/P8030008copy.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/SoSideways/seat_rails/P8030009copy.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/SoSideways/seat_rails/P8030010copy.jpg

What I didn't take pictures of, was the left rear bracket has been spaced up with about 5 washers, to match the modified right rear bracket.

Because of this, the seat actually sits kinda high... feels like it's higher than the stock S14 seat that I had before.

I'd like to know if the newer Nagisa Auto super low rails will help cure the leaning situation, but keeps the seat low.

BTW, if you didn't see it above, the seat in question is the SPL bucket seat.

Thanks guys.

[SoSideways]

Nobody has the Nagisa super low rails on their S13?

[A Spec Products]

Nobody has the Nagisa super low rails on their S13?

For all intensive purposes, Nagisa and Bride position are the same

To sit "low" usually I'd say put the front bracket bolt in the middle position, with the rear bracket bolt in the lowest setting

Seat will have gangster lean, thus freeing up headroom

[240trainee]

Seat will have gangster lean, thus freeing up headroom

Yep. Deep dish wheel, quick release, gangster lean = comfy

and lookin fly as well.

[axiomatik]

For all intensive purposes, Nagisa and Bride position are the same

To sit "low" usually I'd say put the front bracket bolt in the middle position, with the rear bracket bolt in the lowest setting

Seat will have gangster lean, thus freeing up headroom

and you know those purposes are intense!

The proper term is "intents and purposes". :keke:

[slidesquad240]

Ok I'm in a situation. I have buddy club super low rails in my s13 with bride bios seats and it doesn't sit very low. Now I heard to go bride fg rails but the person I spoke too at fr sport said there isn't a height difference between the two sets of rails... Really need some good feedback