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Jeff240sx
06-02-2005, 10:45 AM
You heard right. Zilvia will only be 2nd to last to hear about this (FA was in the dark about my dislike for them).
NICO has kicked Boost Designs as a sponsor. KA-T.org kicked Boost Designs as a sponsor.
His poor grammar/typing skills, same lame excuses, passing the blame, and taking 6 weeks to ship a Cometic headgasket while saying "the site says it'll be a 3 week delay". What a clown. Then, this product switch (NICO link) has exterminated their credibility in my eyes.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=119337
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4133
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4178

Now.. this only goes to prove what I've been saying for months and months, but have been stiffled by moderators on KA-T.org, and NICO (whose mods seemed to be fully for BD).
-Jeff

s86d
06-02-2005, 10:49 AM
Maybe the elitists over there will give you your status back. As far as BD goes yeah they had it coming since startup.
-Dave

MakotoS13
06-02-2005, 10:51 AM
wtf? the outside looks good and theinside wasn't even welded? what the hell kinda operation is that?

Gjohnson7
06-02-2005, 10:56 AM
Wow..........Jeff you da man. Thanks for the info and keeping us out of trouble.

ghostuss
06-02-2005, 11:16 AM
sad. Now it's all about phatka-t.org Ivan is already BUSY as hell. Now he is gonna die hahahaha. He was trying to offer me a job when I am like a 2000 miles away from where his shop is at.

Jeff240sx
06-02-2005, 11:40 AM
wtf? the outside looks good and theinside wasn't even welded? what the hell kinda operation is that?

Looks good? When I buy an equal-length tubular turbo manifold, I want exactly that. I don't want a RevHard tubular knockoff. For $450.. I'd rather just buy the cast RevHard itself.
-Jeff

Bone
06-02-2005, 11:42 AM
He did it to himself. That was the only biz I know of that existed based on the customer is always wrong. He made himself look like a jackass everytime he replyied to someone getting pissed because it has taken 6 months to get something.

SimpleS14
06-02-2005, 11:58 AM
damn....what merger are they talking about in the first thread? Sucks to see this happen...but it was bound to happen with such customer service.

atom
06-02-2005, 12:20 PM
Forums that censor people for that type of stuff fucking suck, period. Not to pick on NICO but I thought the admins there would have learned their lesson after they let that jagoff from Night 7 Racing trample over people. I also remember when one of their own mods scammed people and the admins there let that shit drag on as well.

NICO. :nono:

sepulchral
06-02-2005, 12:59 PM
wtf? the outside looks good and theinside wasn't even welded? what the hell kinda operation is that?

the outside looks like complete ass.. look at the length of the runners... look at the flange... what a piece of shit

MakotoS13
06-02-2005, 01:23 PM
its shiny and the welds look alright on the OUTSIDE. i'm no expert on turbo manifolds and have never professed to ben so all i can take note of is the welding and general aesthetic design (which i did). the welds aren't fuggin da vinci esque but they aren't bad as far as the pics show.

christ, you kids act like im takin up fro their arses.

Siizzzoooo
06-02-2005, 02:09 PM
about time

kandyflip445
06-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Boost Designs= :Owned:

Jeff +1
Boost Designs -13750853208

:bowrofl: It's about time they fucked themselves bad enough for people to stop taking their BS. I never liked the way things looked from them and Jeffs experience with them should have made people think twice. Good ridance

Macadoshus
06-02-2005, 03:04 PM
Wow...his rational for his "improved" manifold design borders on frightening...as does his use of paragraphs.

mrmephistopheles
06-02-2005, 04:32 PM
21.7%
HAH. More like 200% of BULLSHIT.

kandyflip445
06-02-2005, 04:46 PM
I just read through the NICO thread and I have to say our mods and admins are 1000000000x better. HAHA.

raen419
06-02-2005, 05:07 PM
amen...hahaha
a local guy has a BD KA and turbo and blah blah blah.
he says it's good stuff. i took his word for it.
good thing i don't care for building my engine right now.

maybe they'll get a lawsuit and straighten up or choke.

klattr1
06-02-2005, 05:23 PM
but have been stiffled by moderators on KA-T.org (well.. banned for being argumentative, which was mainly towards BD)
-Jeff
actually BD had nothing to do with the banning. we've had this discussion already.
"Are you people elitist? Or just plain stupid?">>see its comments like these that did it.

Gladman
06-02-2005, 06:33 PM
Haha, i coulda called this months ago.. "we're goin through a merger right now, please be patient"... how many small business, online car part companies really do "mergers"...

seriously... "we're merging the tool shed with my dads garage" :mepoke:

Hopefully people that have sent off money can get it back.

infinitexsound
06-02-2005, 06:36 PM
hmmmmmmmmm sad but true, ill keep my mouth shut and let nature bring us a new good ka-t shop...

Jeff240sx
06-02-2005, 08:03 PM
actually BD had nothing to do with the banning. we've had this discussion already.
"Are you people elitist? Or just plain stupid?">>see its comments like these that did it.

Arguementative. Right? That is an arguementative comment right there. And I'm sure that alot of what I've said to BD and Rick were taken into consideration before banning me.
Again, I don't care about this.. it was a fact that nearly every thread on KA-T.org with a gripe about BD was locked/deleted until the end. And told to be taken to PM. Well.. if one guy has a legit issue everyone should see it, so more people don't get that stupid-looking UFO manifold, or deal with that asshole. Just different styles I guess. But that wasn't a gripe about me being banned.. just more fuel on top of the anti-BD bonfire.
-Jeff

klattr1
06-02-2005, 08:26 PM
ok well thats good. just making sure you arent assuming anything.

zeek
06-02-2005, 08:42 PM
You all do know that he was running this shit out of his aparment right? And PJ's name is Actually Perry Johnson

mrmephistopheles
06-02-2005, 08:52 PM
"Are you people elitist? Or just plain stupid?"


That's bannable stuff?

Man, I thought *I* was a nazi asshole mobsterator.

klattr1
06-02-2005, 08:56 PM
listen dude, i was just quoting what Jeff240sx said in KA-T.org forums. hence the quotations. read it for yourself if you wish.

http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2990

if you want to discuss it further, feel free to PM or email me.

mrmephistopheles
06-02-2005, 09:01 PM
Sorry, I'm not trying to start anything.
I've read what Jeff wrote, and didn't see anything worth banning him for.
If anything, a good warning would have been appropriate, but a permaban just seemed inapprpriate.
'snot my forum though. :D

S14DB
06-02-2005, 11:14 PM
I PMed you several times about Jeffs Banning. Your replies were vauge at best.

klattr1
06-02-2005, 11:34 PM
and your input was not needed in the decision making.

and besides, Jeff doesnt need your help. he does a good enough job being defensive since he considers himself as the "ultimate debator"

so as far as im concerned, none of your business.

Jeff240sx
06-02-2005, 11:35 PM
My banning is not due to Boost Designs, or my comments to them. My banning is due to my attitude, which is poor at best. KA-T.org does not need to be brought up in this post, and subsequently pasted on 2 other forums. Apparently asking how local companies (Tampa shops) will get out of this mess isn't my business. Even though it's a customer-driven internet business.
Blindly bashing NICO over their action/inaction/moderation/posters/users/posts/threads/forum is unnecessary, and the offending post has been edited.
As you can see.. I've caught alot of flak today.

Jeff240sx
06-02-2005, 11:44 PM
and your input was not needed in the decision making.

and besides, Jeff doesnt need your help. he does a good enough job being defensive since he considers himself as the "ultimate debator"

so as far as im concerned, none of your business.

Another assinine comment from you. I said I'm "fairly good at debating 1v1". I don't think you have another forum to strip my moderation from.
Anyway, it wasn't 5 forums I took this to. It was 2. TR is now deleted, and FA never even recieved the "banned from KA-T.org" sentence. Just FYI.
-Jeff

SR240DET
06-02-2005, 11:47 PM
haha yeah... saw how boostdesigns tried to say his new shit is better and all with numbers to back it up.... when he should of said... "i went cheap and im going to screw all you guys..... " hahahaha

klattr1
06-02-2005, 11:49 PM
Another assinine comment from you. I said I'm "fairly good at debating 1v1". I don't think you have another forum to strip my moderation from.
Anyway, it wasn't 5 forums I took this to. It was 2. TR is now deleted, and FA never even recieved the "banned from KA-T.org" sentence. Just FYI.
-Jeff
yea, you delted half the crap which i could prove to other people you showed disrespect to me (mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir).

i always show respect until proven otherwise.

Anyways, its asinine.

klattr1
06-03-2005, 12:13 AM
Why are you continuing arguing about something publicly and calling Jeff out and then telling people to stay out of it. Take your own advice and take it to pm's. Shit.
because I (co-owner of KA-T.org) have been mentioned in this thread which I feel has been mentioned thoughtlessly in reaction to other issues.

Boost Designs was removed from issues that are beyond Jeff's understanding or assumptions.

I hate when people post, and then you quote it and they've already deleted or edited their post when you click submit. lol

and im done with this thread.

kandyflip445
06-03-2005, 12:20 AM
HAHA. Yeah I felt it added to the fire and took it back. To late I guess.

Jeff240sx
06-03-2005, 12:30 AM
Co-own yourself back to KA-T.org. I never claimed to list or even have understanding of why BD was removed. I simply stated they were. But.. you seem to not pay attention to these things.. "facts," if you will. Another Fact you may wish to skip over is the fact your name was never mentioned in here. You took it upon yourself to thrust your name into this thread to state (again) why I was banned. If only I'd have gotten an email or warning from KA-T.org. And.. signing off AIM mid-conversation was a nice touch.


-Jeff

Jeff240sx
06-03-2005, 12:36 AM
Congrats on turning 12 Ryan.
klattr1 (2:37:29 AM): whoever said i signed off?
Sleek S14 (2:37:53 AM): you just blocked me?
klattr1 (2:37:59 AM): no, not at all
Sleek S14 (2:37:59 AM): AIM said you signed off
klattr1 (2:38:05 AM): learn to use the software
klattr1 (2:38:09 AM): its called invisible
Sleek S14 (2:38:15 AM): does it matter?
klattr1 (2:38:20 AM): i never signed off
Sleek S14 (2:38:29 AM): a minor technicallity
klattr1 (2:38:29 AM): been on the whole time
klattr1 (2:38:37 AM): you are gay
Sleek S14 (2:38:41 AM): awesome
klattr1 (2:38:47 AM): not really

S14DB
06-03-2005, 12:38 AM
Wow he talked to you on AIM? He just ignored me.

SochBAT
06-03-2005, 12:49 AM
wow, i never really knew BD had it that bad. I was thinkin about gettin my KA-T their. Thanks to the Trusty Z-Team, the people of ForumLand are safe.

/adds fuel to the fire

Ritz S14
06-03-2005, 01:22 AM
wow, i never really knew BD had it that bad. I was thinkin about gettin my KA-T their. Thanks to the Trusty Z-Team, the people of ForumLand are safe.

/adds fuel to the fire

Well, you can't please everyone.

Seriously, explain.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/th_P5310041.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/P5310041.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/th_P5310038-1.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/P5310038-1.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/th_P5310036-1.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/P5310036-1.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/th_P5310035-1.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/P5310035-1.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/th_P5310034-1.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/bdmockup/P5310034-1.jpg)

Jeff240sx
06-03-2005, 01:27 AM
yea, you delted half the crap which i could prove to other people you showed disrespect to me (mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir).

i always show respect until proven otherwise.

Anyways, its asinine.

Full name? The one which resides at the bottom of every website you've built. That top-secret name? Website business dealings? The fact that you built the site (again, your full name is on it).. combined with pricing knowledge I've gained from building sites myself.. revealed your business dealings. Ok. The quote was "XAT just paid [name omitted] a (sizeable?) sum of money to update their site and highlight the fact..." Sorry I deleted that. However, your objection at that quote is sad, and only our friendship made me delete it. Now that's apparently gone, so is my patience with apologizing for stupid shit.
Sorry I made a guess at the fact you redid their site with flash and it cost them a decent ammount of money. Sorry I listed your full name. Maybe I shouldn't link that .pdf of your resume you have linked on your business site.

However, that quote was listed to get one guy (XAT nutswinger) off my back. Which resulted in one closeminded KA-T.org co-owner on my back. Over nothing, in reality. Yet I apologized and deleted it.. and you regressed to 12 years old.

And Smog-Tech, members need to log in to see those pics. Can you host them, by chance? Or upload as an attachment? Otherwise, most of those are on the NICO link.
-Jeff

SochBAT
06-03-2005, 01:39 AM
From the exterior, it doesn't look half bad (but im no welding-god) so it'd look buy-able. once i saw that Superior welding inside, it made my balls shrivel.

But an offtopic question, would that kind of welding (in those pictures) really make a noticeable difference in performance? I'm just tryin to learn.

TheSnail
06-03-2005, 01:41 AM
How does that manifold not fall apart? Or maybe it does. Just like the people that made it...

chlatboy
06-03-2005, 01:50 AM
CHILDREN!!! BE NICE or you will be sent to the corner!!!! And it seems as though those KAT guys are really hating on sr20s. :axe:

mrmephistopheles
06-03-2005, 02:27 AM
And it seems as though those KAT guys are really hating on sr20s. :axe:
Most sadly of all, it's Jeff's attempt to prevent that from happening that got him barned.

chlatboy
06-03-2005, 03:03 AM
yea, they seem worse than our sr20 guys. They didnt even take jeffs post into considerations but were more on the balls of that GLAD guy

turtl631
06-03-2005, 08:56 AM
regarding the BD mani and DP that they shipped out, WTF is with the wastegate routing? It looks like it would divert exhaust gas coming out of the turbine discharge back into the exhaust...which is where it would go anyways. how the hell do you control boost by managing exhaust gas after it passes through the turbo?

SR240DET
06-03-2005, 09:24 AM
if you look at the old style mani... waste gate flange is before the turbo on the mani... this new manifold looks like trash... so if your asking about the new one.. i have no clue....

MakotoS13
06-03-2005, 10:08 AM
mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir

quick question. if everything you do is on the up and up why would it matter if jeff puts your full name and website dealings on a billboard in central park? i don't like shady bullcrap and from what i've observed thus far you don't seem to be too honest when it comes to personal dealings.

the fact that your forum's banning of him could be t he direct result of more people wasting money on inferior products only indicates that you lack the backbone needed to be a useful member of society.

Jeff240sx
06-03-2005, 10:12 AM
The new manifold is made to have a "weldless" inside. HA! And designed to flow the exhaust gas directly into the turbine blades. Now, if this were the correct way to go about it, Full Race wouldn't have a giant pulse collector. Nor would PK, or Peak Boost, or any other manifold manufacturer.
The manifold, which is STILL listed as equal length on their site, has been changed to something that looks like a tubular style RevHard manifold.

The wastegate routing seems to be cosmetic. If the turbo wasn't internally gated, that piping wouldn't work I don't think. See.. to get to the wastegate, the exhaust would have already needed to go through the turbine blades to exit the snail. That negates the effect a WG would have.

Finally, the welds are nice. Never complained about them, even on my manifold. Weldless interior? Ha. There *will* be vibration in there. And that *will* disrupt flow. As does cramming individual pulses together, then direct into the turbine blades. That thing flows like crap in theory. And if he has flow numbers.. he needed to post them, and not a BS 21.7% better statement.
-Jeff

Macadoshus
06-03-2005, 11:29 AM
mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir

quick question. if everything you do is on the up and up why would it matter if jeff puts your full name and website dealings on a billboard in central park? i don't like shady bullcrap and from what i've observed thus far you don't seem to be too honest when it comes to personal dealings.

the fact that your forum's banning of him could be t he direct result of more people wasting money on inferior products only indicates that you lack the backbone needed to be a useful member of society.

:werd:

Those people's money should be on your conscience.

...and after seeing that "Weldless" inside I am considering grinding all the welds of the inside of my manifold so as to promote better flow.

Jeff240sx
06-03-2005, 11:48 AM
After being told that things aren't my business (although what products a company carries are the business of the customer), I've been vindicated by Scott (Enthalpy). Going directly against what Klattr has been saying. See.. busy people, like Scott, have better things to do than read every post on every forum, and alot of what gets said is never found out. The TampaRacing post, the one which Klattr had the issue with, and was a catalyst in him powertripping and removing my moderator status on phatka-t forums, was how Enthalpy found out about the lies Boost Designs was spreading and smearing Enthalpy's name. So, something good came out of that clusterfuck.
Link to my vindication:
http://tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238359

-Jeff

HyperTek
06-03-2005, 01:03 PM
ebay manifolds never looked sooo good.. =D

infinitexsound
06-03-2005, 03:06 PM
nobody ever should run a mani that doesnt have full penetration welds.. just because it looks good on the outside the inside is just crap....someone needs to get nailed to a piece of wood... doesnt he charge like 500 for his mani's what a rip

Var
06-03-2005, 05:46 PM
Congrats on turning 12 Ryan.
klattr1 (2:37:29 AM): whoever said i signed off?
Sleek S14 (2:37:53 AM): you just blocked me?
klattr1 (2:37:59 AM): no, not at all
Sleek S14 (2:37:59 AM): AIM said you signed off
klattr1 (2:38:05 AM): learn to use the software
klattr1 (2:38:09 AM): its called invisible
Sleek S14 (2:38:15 AM): does it matter?
klattr1 (2:38:20 AM): i never signed off
Sleek S14 (2:38:29 AM): a minor technicallity
klattr1 (2:38:29 AM): been on the whole time
klattr1 (2:38:37 AM): you are gay
Sleek S14 (2:38:41 AM): awesome
klattr1 (2:38:47 AM): not really


wow what an asshole. he's trying to weasel his way out of the situation cause Jeff is about to spank him..then he's like...you are gay. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Ritz S14
06-03-2005, 06:26 PM
Seems like he can't be man enough to come back. Oh well.

The End.


Or is it?

Tictakman
06-03-2005, 06:48 PM
ive been running a bd mani and dp for 4 months now on and off. its cracked on me twice right where the 4 runners collect and the wastegate runner comes out.

Zak

BigVinnie
06-03-2005, 10:33 PM
Screw "PJ" I don't even think he was a tuner, he was just a sales rep selling bogus products.
Atleast www.nizzx.com is still around and a reputable company.
All I know from most of my friends that delt with PJ is that B.S always came from him, all talk, no action.
Hey PJ shout out to you " I hope you drown in debt and your own B.S, you piece o crap".....
Now we can all feel better.......

By the way NIZZX sells cast iron mani's will never crack and only get stronger with heat.

S14DB
06-03-2005, 10:43 PM
Screw "PJ" I don't even think he was a tuner, he was just a sales rep selling bogus products.
Atleast www.nizzx.com is still around and a reputable company.
All I know from most of my friends that delt with PJ is that B.S always came from him, all talk, no action.
Hey PJ shout out to you " I hope you drown in debt and your own B.S, you piece o crap".....
Now we can all feel better.......

By the way NIZZX sells cast iron mani's will never crack and only get stronger with heat.
Really? cause their Coding sucks...

SochBAT
06-03-2005, 10:46 PM
businesses raise, business fall. Depending on customer support, and product quality, you could have had one badass company, but you dropped the ball.

Wonder whats really running thru their minds right now, knowing they are underfire for halfassed products.

www.ka-t.org
06-04-2005, 04:36 AM
Wow, I had no idea thi was all going on.


I am the other owner of ka-t.org and Klatt told me about this thread today while I was on my way to work and just now got a chance to sit down and read this. I have been so busy with my getting my car back together and working a crapload at my job, I dont have a lot of free time to browse the different forums, I barely have time to deal with my own!


Basically we were in the same spot as Enthalpy where we didnt want our name drug through the mud with BD's downfall...thats the short and sweet version. Plus the fact that PJ had bad grammar always bothered me.


Jeff....you have mail, please get back to me ASAP at the number listed.


Rick

Macadoshus
06-04-2005, 09:10 AM
Basically we were in the same spot as Enthalpy where we didnt want out name drug the mud with BD's downfall...thats the short and sweet version. Plus the fact that PJ had bad grammar always bothered me.


:loco:

I could have gone further if I really wanted, but I didn't think it was necessary.

MakotoS13
06-04-2005, 09:16 AM
Jeff....you have mail, please get back to me ASAP at the number listed.


Rick

so now that all this comes out and everybody knows how you guys were bein jerks to jeff you now wanna play nice and make ammends?

idunno what jeff would do but i'd say go put some salt on your foot and eat it cause that crap's just not right.

Phlip
06-04-2005, 09:47 AM
I am thoroughly entertained by this soap opera, this is making the fact that I don't watch much television so much more enjoyable

Jeff240sx
06-04-2005, 10:01 AM
Jeff....you have mail, please get back to me ASAP at the number listed.
Rick

I don't have email. I don't know where yours was sent to, but I checked every domain I had.
Please re-email to [email protected] if you need to get in contact with me.
-Jeff

kandyflip445
06-04-2005, 10:14 AM
Maybe he meant a PM???

Jeff240sx
06-04-2005, 10:52 AM
Maybe he meant a PM???

Checked. Not here. And I doubt on his forum.
-Jeff

www.ka-t.org
06-04-2005, 10:59 AM
No, I sent you an email through here but I guess something isnt adding up. I sent you an email through outlook this time.


Bah, dont give me crap about my grammar skills, I typed that at 4am after I got home from work so cut me some slack. At least I didnt have one sentence that was a paragraph.


Rick

Macadoshus
06-04-2005, 02:09 PM
Yeah their coding does suck ass.

Actually I think it has more to do with them trying to run ASP on a linux box, it not supporting it and thus returning the wrong content type. I know...I know... :gives:

smellslikecurry
06-04-2005, 02:09 PM
Yeah their coding does suck ass.
But anyways I got heat at nico cause they thought I was selling spam.... Whats up with that shiat I just buy shiat all the time...
Ain't no trippin fellas there are still reputable businesses like phat kat, tweakit, and hybrydka.
Does anybody know what happened to genxmuscle?
Jeff props for pointing out a shyster company before it would of bacame to late for others. That deserves some DAP.....


ive been following this thread and this is the only post i dont understand...what are you trying to say?

SochBAT
06-04-2005, 04:03 PM
Damn you and that asian grammar. This is a really enjoyable thread to read. The drama, the suspense! Anyone wanna take a guess at how many people got ripped by BD?

I'd say... +500

SimpleS14
06-04-2005, 04:29 PM
more like 240.........get it?



BigVinnie is doing nothing but a shameless plug that failed miserably.

BigVinnie
06-04-2005, 06:05 PM
Stop this. Make a new thread or something...