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futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:55 AM
Its a 93 240SX Hatchback
-186K miles
-mechanically perfect condition, nice clutch, same goes for the motor
-came with 16" rims, not really sure the brand...but I they look like Konig Tuners to me
$1,150


Now onto the negatives:P
-dent in a quarter panel
-lots of scratches
-front bumper has a tiny crack
-front right turn signal has a cracked lense
-one of the lights on the side of the car(the red one) is also cracked
-shiftboot is worn out
-cd player was taken out, so there is a gap there.
-driver seat has a rip
-passenger seat is all mucked up
-And I think the muffler needs to be replaced(sounded like it was damaged)
First step of action, get rid of the rims and get some steelies. And to install good condition seats that i got for free. Then find the lenses that are cracked, and a new shift boot. Then a cd player.
http://streetneeds.com/uploads/cars/DSC03344.JPG
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http://streetneeds.com/uploads/cars/DSC03343.JPG
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-Pretty much the car will be my daily driver with some upgrades to make it handle better, between the time I sell my integra and buy something else(not really sure what tho)

futureteg
05-12-2005, 12:14 PM
do 89-90 turn signals fit 93?

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 12:19 PM
no

nice car
welcome to the bandwagon! woot!
have fun.

MakotoS13
05-12-2005, 12:26 PM
pretty good find for the money.

Yoshi
05-12-2005, 12:34 PM
Welcome aboard!
Too bad about the ITR nick u got haha ;) j/k man.

What are your build plans?
That's not purple tint on the rear glass is it? eek.

futureteg
05-12-2005, 12:34 PM
pretty good find for the money.
i fugure sell rims for like 350-400, then buy steellies for like 50-75.
Get a decent running beater for $800. Put $100 bucks in freshining it up. New shiftknob, shiftboot, replace damaged lens. Then drop like 600 on handling mods, sway bars lowering springs/shocks, strut bars. In the end good handler for $1500. :x:

futureteg
05-12-2005, 12:36 PM
Welcome aboard!
Too bad about the ITR nick u got haha ;) j/k man.

What are your build plans?
That's not purple tint on the rear glass is it? eek.

plans above, the nick I chose cuz I wasn't sure I was getting the 240, and I didnt' want your usual JDM Dorifto Akina Speedstars Takumi style nick :P And yaeh the tint is purple sadly.

JuJuBee
05-12-2005, 02:35 PM
i thought tickets to the bandwagon were sold out already

doh!

JuJuBee
05-12-2005, 02:37 PM
i fugure sell rims for like 350-400, then buy steellies for like 50-75.
Get a decent running beater for $800. Put $100 bucks in freshining it up. New shiftknob, shiftboot, replace damaged lens. Then drop like 600 on handling mods, sway bars lowering springs/shocks, strut bars. In the end good handler for $1500. :x:


lol..sway bars, shock/springs AND strut bars for 600 dollars!!!

buwahahaha

my shocks cost almost 400

you are looking at at least 1000...AT LEAST!

my240iguanas
05-12-2005, 02:40 PM
i hope that Integra LS isnt yours

futureteg
05-12-2005, 02:44 PM
hey man there are always good deals to be found, i.e. for my integra I picked up a set of Apexi World Sport Coil overs for $400 shipped. I buy my things used so that I can save money :)

Tentative where I got $600 from.
Strut bars: ebay :P $50 for the 2 new...yes not as good as name brand...but hey they still improve handling.
Sway Bars: I saw a few in classfieids selling for 120-150 for the whiteline rear(front one is thick enough already so no sense to upgrade)
Lowring springs: $50-100 + shocks around 200-300 or maybe find anotehr deal like i got with my apexis. And find some used coil overs for $400.

So total = 600 for a decent handling suspension...granted it won't be better than some ppls who've spent that much for just sway bars, but hey its an improvement over stock, which is all that matters since i don't compete or streetrace.

So have fun paying retail prices, if u decide to sell or your car gets totalled, you won't get that money back. I learned that lesson wtih my rsx, where insurance didn't give me 1 penny for my mods.

futureteg
05-12-2005, 02:46 PM
i hope that Integra LS isnt yours

its a GS, same shit as LS tho. Pretty much I got the 240, so that I can sell my integra and get the 7.5K of value thats stuck there. It didn't handle that bad for a FWD with the oem type r rear sway bar, 22mm>12.9 stock

rrobe99999
05-12-2005, 02:50 PM
I like the wheels. Why are you going to downgrade to steelies?

futureteg
05-12-2005, 02:58 PM
I like the wheels. Why are you going to downgrade to steelies?
so that the car overall will be cheaper, and I can put more money into mods. Probably gonna make it that I'll spend $1500 overall for the car + any mods.

Not really a fan of exterior mods as you can see in the integra, because that just gives you attention from cops, thieves, and other morons who want to street race you.

But yes I do like the wheels myself, I had a set on my integra for a week, traded them for Team Dynamic Racing rims, because the tread on it was too small, the guy put 40 size tire on a 15 inch rim, when stock is supposed to be 55, didnt like doing "90" mph on the highway, and every single car passing me like I was standing still

futureteg
05-12-2005, 03:00 PM
oh and i just washed the car, just a quick blast of water, and something tells me that the owner of this car took the car offroad, since there are huge mud puddles on each rim, and mud spray by teh fenders and sideskirts.

Front has clean spokes, rear doesn't
http://streetneeds.com/uploads/cars/DSC03345.JPG

Kreator
05-12-2005, 03:09 PM
hey man there are always good deals to be found, i.e. for my integra I picked up a set of Apexi World Sport Coil overs for $400 shipped. I buy my things used so that I can save money :)

Tentative where I got $600 from.
Strut bars: ebay :P $50 for the 2 new...yes not as good as name brand...but hey they still improve handling.
Sway Bars: I saw a few in classfieids selling for 120-150 for the whiteline rear(front one is thick enough already so no sense to upgrade)
Lowring springs: $50-100 + shocks around 200-300 or maybe find anotehr deal like i got with my apexis. And find some used coil overs for $400.

So total = 600 for a decent handling suspension...granted it won't be better than some ppls who've spent that much for just sway bars, but hey its an improvement over stock, which is all that matters since i don't compete or streetrace.

So have fun paying retail prices, if u decide to sell or your car gets totalled, you won't get that money back. I learned that lesson wtih my rsx, where insurance didn't give me 1 penny for my mods.


lmao. love the approach.

Indeed lets get $50 dollar springs from ebay with #500 all around rates, then pair them up with a set of used shocks, those will definately be fine, and to sweeten up the deal lets get a couple of those strut bars that are made so shittily they keep unscrewing. This will definately make up for one excellent race machine. Jees.

Not to be an asshole man, but that integra seems fairly new to me. Prlly $5-6K worth at least? so you have some money to afford stuff. There are things you can buy used and/or cheap and there are things you can't apply that theory too. get those straight.

ps: oh and those rims look worth maybe $200 to me... well thats what i would probably spend on them at most. if that.

JuJuBee
05-12-2005, 03:13 PM
lmao. love the approach.

Indeed lets get $50 dollar springs from ebay with #500 rates, then pair them up with a set of used shocks, those will definately be fine, and to sweeten up the deal lets get a couple of those strut bars that are made so shittily they keep unscrewing. This will definately make up for one excellent race machine. Jees.

Not to be an asshole man, but that integra seems fairly new to me. Prlly $5-6K worth at least? so you have some money to afford stuff. There are things you can buy used and/or cheap and there are things you can't apply that theory too. get those straight.


but iF i dUnT spEnD dAt mOnEy dEn tHe iNsurAnCe wOnT rApE mE!!11 lol lol LOL LOL~~!!111 yUo gUyZ sPeNd Da BiG mOnEy aNd LeT mE bUy dA bLoWn cHeaP shOCkZ~~!!

futureteg
05-12-2005, 03:20 PM
lmao. love the approach.

Indeed lets get $50 dollar springs from ebay with #500 all around rates, then pair them up with a set of used shocks, those will definately be fine, and to sweeten up the deal lets get a couple of those strut bars that are made so shittily they keep unscrewing. This will definately make up for one excellent race machine. Jees.

Not to be an asshole man, but that integra seems fairly new to me. Prlly $5-6K worth at least? so you have some money to afford stuff. There are things you can buy used and/or cheap and there are things you can't apply that theory too. get those straight.

ps: oh and those rims look worth maybe $200 to me... well thats what i would probably spend on them at most. if that.

200 is what ppl pay for rims, with tires the giong rate is higher, I know I went thru like 4 sets with the integra
17s, 15s, 16s, 15s.

Yes my integra is worth like 7.5K according to edmunds. The reason I don't want to spend that much money on the 240...is because i don't like putting that much money into my cars, cuz of theft/accidents, and 2nd...why would i put 4K into a 1K car.

And I'm not talking about buying sprint springs or whatever ebay brand, I was more thinking in the direction of brand name springs that were used.

And any part is good used...well maybe not shocks, but who said anything about buying coil overs shocks with 50-60K miles on them? And as long as the spring is not rusted and is quality it won't sag either.

And once again you failed to read that I'm not building a race car, its just a beater that i want to be fun enough to drive w/o dumping loads of cash into it.

Its all about budgeting, I like to stick to them, because before you know you'll have a car wiht 5-6K in mods, when you never wanted to spend that much in the first place. If you are on a budget you can justify certain purschases, adn others you can justify not to purchase.

futureteg
05-12-2005, 03:23 PM
but iF i dUnT spEnD dAt mOnEy dEn tHe iNsurAnCe wOnT rApE mE!!11 lol lol LOL LOL~~!!111 yUo gUyZ sPeNd Da BiG mOnEy aNd LeT mE bUy dA bLoWn cHeaP shOCkZ~~!!
I would appreciate if you wouldn't insult me by associating me with all the wigger ass stunnas. And you did bring up a good point, I have my money, you have yours, lets keep what we do with our money, in the owner's hands.

And why must the shocks be blown?

Kreator
05-12-2005, 04:32 PM
And once again you failed to read that I'm not building a race car, its just a beater that i want to be fun enough to drive w/o dumping loads of cash into it.

Its all about budgeting, I like to stick to them, because before you know you'll have a car wiht 5-6K in mods, when you never wanted to spend that much in the first place. If you are on a budget you can justify certain purschases, adn others you can justify not to purchase.


if its a beater, then leave it as it is and don't spend any money on it. If you are planning to get a number of suspension mods, which are questionable since like you said its just a beater, then dont expect it to come out good by being cheap.

do it right, or dont do it at all.

futureteg
05-12-2005, 06:17 PM
if its a beater, then leave it as it is and don't spend any money on it. If you are planning to get a number of suspension mods, which are questionable since like you said its just a beater, then dont expect it to come out good by being cheap.

do it right, or dont do it at all.

You can do both, just slightly losing the upperhand combo. I fail to understand how a spring/shock combo is going to be so bad for the car? Say eibachs or whatever springs are made for 240.

And I mod because I like working on cars, and its a hobby, and since its an expensive hobby, I like to get my money's worth, if I can get 75% of handling at a quarter of a price, I'll get that, since I'll still get major improvement over stock, w/o spending too much money.

There is no sense in throwing money at something if you are not going to use it.

MakotoS13
05-12-2005, 07:00 PM
the point is that if you spend money on aftermarket stuff that's used or springs and AGX's or whtever instead of real coilovers you're wasting money cause for a little more you can have the good stuff.

or you could be an SPL whore like me and give them all your extra money very month.

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 07:06 PM
spl whore = me
i got everything from them almost
it rules
the best sponsor EVAR kuah rocks

check out splparts.com
he supports zilvia.net too has group buys alot
i get my defi thru kuah, my suspension links, pads, clutch, etc all thru Kuah at SPLPARTS.COM

futureteg
05-12-2005, 07:29 PM
Topline aragosta coilovers (R)PS13 $2907

thats like 3 times the car is worth

JuJuBee
05-12-2005, 07:52 PM
Topline aragosta coilovers (R)PS13 $2907

thats like 3 times the car is worth


who the fuck told you to get/search for 3,000 dollar coilovers :ghey:

futureteg
05-12-2005, 08:05 PM
who the fuck told you to get/search for 3,000 dollar coilovers :ghey:
noone just looked at the high end coil overs :P Now just one last question, are you going to deny me that a 240SX with a rear sway bar + strut bars+ springs is going handle better than a stock one?

SilviaDriver
05-12-2005, 08:15 PM
it will still handle like shit

Jonnie Fraz
05-12-2005, 08:39 PM
Cool deal man ...Car looks nice and you will have a ton of fun in it.

0kami
05-12-2005, 09:26 PM
You can do both, just slightly losing the upperhand combo. I fail to understand how a spring/shock combo is going to be so bad for the car? Say eibachs or whatever springs are made for 240.

And I mod because I like working on cars, and its a hobby, and since its an expensive hobby, I like to get my money's worth, if I can get 75% of handling at a quarter of a price, I'll get that, since I'll still get major improvement over stock, w/o spending too much money.

There is no sense in throwing money at something if you are not going to use it.

Dont listen to these guy's man, their stuck on that tunnel vision shit, I'm happy with my KYB+Tein Stech spring combo, I daily drive the shit out of my car, go to the track every month or 2, I know what my car can and cannot do, and I'm happy with the way it is, without having to waste a shit load of money so I can attempt at fitting some type of image. Just lightly tune it.

s13gonwild
05-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Honestly...those wheels look better than steelies....atleast i think soo.

SR240DET
05-12-2005, 10:07 PM
ok so... you picked up a older 12 year old car.... that will eat more gas then your integra... with con's that out weight the pro's.... 186K miles.... and its a daily driver?!?!? hmmmm sounds like an idiot.... you should of said you got a 240sx because it was cool... then i would of believed you...

dont take this too hard... im just trying to understand whats going on...

futureteg
05-12-2005, 10:18 PM
ok so... you picked up a older 12 year old car.... that will eat more gas then your integra... with con's that out weight the pro's.... 186K miles.... and its a daily driver?!?!? hmmmm sounds like an idiot.... you should of said you got a 240sx because it was cool... then i would of believed you...

dont take this too hard... im just trying to understand whats going on...

i am pretty sure I explained this earlier

I have 7-8K in the value of my integra. Thats the money I can't use to put towards a new car. Thats why I bought the 240, so that I can sell my integra and get my 7-8K back. Reason I'm doing this, is otherwise I'd have 3 options:

1-sell integra, then spend 1+ months waiting for the right deal to come along, and get rides everywhere
2-sell integra, then buy the first car that comes along, that maynot be something i was looking for(i.e. with the integra I needed a car fast, which is why I ended up with silver and auto) :down:
3-buy new car...but since I can't use the 7-8K thats stored in the value of the itnegra, it wno't be top thing I can afford., then spend the time selling the integra


At least with the 240, I'll have it to drive around, and I know that anytime I sell it, I can get all my money back from the car since the # of bandwagoners grows everytime initial d releases a new episode.

And regarding the 240, yes 186K is a lot, but mechaniclly the car runs perfect.

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 10:30 PM
bandwagoners like yourself
dont lie to us
we werent born yesterday.
haha
you jumped because you want the jdm tyteness
8k for a teg? are there that many morons who want that car? wow. im impressed.


keep denying. fanboy.

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:12 PM
bandwagoners like yourself
dont lie to us
we werent born yesterday.
haha
you jumped because you want the jdm tyteness
8k for a teg? are there that many morons who want that car? wow. im impressed.


keep denying. fanboy.


go ahead and look up what 2000 Integras go for. And I'm not a bandwagoner, just an opportunity presented itself, was looking for intermediate cars in the vehicles classifed on honda-tech, and saw it.

In ANY of my posts, did I indicate my intent to drift, to bandwagon, or any of those things, just because you bought a car for the JDM tight driftness, after watching initial D, doesn't mean other people do it for those reasons.

If I wanted to bandwagon wouldn't I pick up a 98 240SX instead since I have the money? Or better yet buy one of the gazillion swapped 240s, that go for around 5K?

Shit a guy buys a rwd car thats not a domestic, and its instantly oh noez he is going drifting. :nono:

Why don't you grow up and realize the following:
a) ppl earn their money, and what they do wtih it is their own bussiness, unless you plan to give me the thousands upon thousands to make a 12 year old car be quick, you can quit putting down the cheapness:P

b) Not everyone does things cuz you do things this way, I mean to you its perfectly fine to spend a grand on a coil over setup for example, because maybe you drift, or auto-x....or most likely like 99% of "tuners" out there that get their intakes installed at a shop you just got the big name product just to be able to say "yo yo yo its _____". But to me, as long as its a quality product, i'd rather save a few bucks here and there if i can get similiar feel.

c) You don't know what I want out of the car, so please stop reccomedning me what I should get, especially since I did not ask for your opinion, I can make and research my own choices

d) No matter how much horse power you put into your 240, no matter how good it handles, at the end of the day its stilll a 12 year old nissan.

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 11:21 PM
keep denying
i find it humerous.

you defend yourself so much its great. keep it up..bandwagon fanboy.

hahahaha

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:33 PM
keep denying
i find it humerous.

you defend yourself so much its great. keep it up..bandwagon fanboy.

hahahaha

well thats because I'm an adult and can argue w/o resorting to useless name calling, I'd expect someone who was born in 79 to act that way, but I guess thats too much to ask, probably another prepubescent asian guy, who looks like a 14 year old girl, who got into the "cali scene" to compensate for his M4D T!GHT JDM Pen0s. :keke:

Isn't that right aaron 949-294-9694(this is why you don't leave in classifieds a call me :keke: but instead have them PM you.

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 11:36 PM
oh yeah 79 omg ! wow
yep thats my number.
haha
actually im nothing as you said
haha..but thats ok.
enjoy the bandwagon! yah!

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:42 PM
oh yeah 79 omg ! wow
yep thats my number.
haha
actually im nothing as you said
haha..but thats ok.
enjoy the bandwagon! yah!

will do

step 1 cut springs
step 2 5 inch muffler
step 3 drive around town in first gear never shifting
step 4 burn out at every stop
step 5 180SX tail light center thing swap
step 6 GTR badge
step 7 that green yellow "new jdm driver" magnet
step 8 lean back when driving
step 9 tell everyone how I'm swapping a SR20 very soon
step 10 deny everyone that i am on a bandwagon, and say I was in the scene from the time I was in the womb, and how I'm only now picking up a 240, since I coudln't afford it before

:fawkd:

JuJuBee
05-12-2005, 11:43 PM
oh wow you got teh phone number!!!

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 11:44 PM
yes yes! do it
muffler? nah no exhaust at all, cheap and loud!
and get those altezza kouki 180sx taillamps. that would be THE COOLEST
lean back is the shit
no, not sr, RB26DETT!


c'mon if your making the jump get it right! seriously!

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:44 PM
oh wow you got teh phone number!!!
I'm l33t like that :rolleyes:

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:46 PM
yes yes! do it
muffler? nah no exhaust at all, cheap and loud!
and get those altezza kouki 180sx taillamps. that would be THE COOLEST
lean back is the shit
no, not sr, RB26DETT!


c'mon if your making the jump get it right! seriously!

the circle thingies? nah those are too JDM = mucho dinero, I can't afford that working at wendys....Guess I'll just stick to letting every modified car that goes thru the drive thru about how l33t my 240 is :fruit:

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 11:47 PM
hahahahaha
dont forget ebay specials like tornados and such. they are great investments. and improve gas mileage. any hardcore driver has one.

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:51 PM
hahahahaha dont forget ebay specials like tornados and such. they are great investments. and improve gas mileage. any hardcore driver has one.
oh yeah those electric superchargers are the shiznit. And finally no good 240sx owner leaves home without a Akina Speedstars, Nightkids, Emperor, or Redsuns sticker, cuz...why would you leave home w/o represeing your l33t club with a 240sx, geo metro, and a toyota corolla, and your friend with his mom's minivan

matlock
05-12-2005, 11:55 PM
Wow I can't believe the money you think you are going to get for the wheels and the fact that you deny being a bandwagon jumper....You are the kind of person I would hate to buy that 240 from I would have to spend a lot of time trying to get it back to stock instead of JDM Ebay Tyte. I don't know if you understand the difference between an ebay strut bar and say a Nismo Power brace....oh well I don't even feel like arguing dousan seems to be doing just fine hahaaaaaaa.

drift freaq
05-12-2005, 11:57 PM
damn this has degenerated fast. Ok people are trying to give you good advice here but you do seem resistant to it to a fault. Thats pretty much why aaron is giving you a hard time.
If you would take the time to listen to some of these guys suggestions you would not be sinking tons into the car but still coming out better than your own stated plans.
First off strut braces stiffen your chassis some they are not a huge performance upgrade handling wise.
If you want a set of good strut braces look around, there are sets in the $135 range that are quite nice.
the $50 ebay ones are pretty much junk.You would be better off finding a used set of the old school Greddy bars for around $50-75. As far as suspension goes the only reason most of us are talking coilovers, even cheaper ones, like Megans for $800-900 is because the AGX spring combo is ok, but kinda sucky. I know I ran them AGX's with HKS springs. Tein S tech springs are soft . I would not recommend them to anyone.
Also with a little work your car is going to be worth a lot more than the 1100 you paid for it. even with the higher mileage. Check out the cars that are for sale and selling . you got yourself a pretty damn good deal and your cheaping out because you think you paid what your car is worth.
If I got those wheels on that car I would run them. 16's are ten times better than 15's and those 16's are wider than stock as well . IMHO
You will not make enough off selling those rims to really do your suspension right. If your going to sell that 8k teg of yours, than you will be in a position to do things right, and not spend mad bank. Put it this way,that right investments and your cars value will increase . These cars have actually gained value in the last couple of years, don't sell them short just because you got yours cheap.

Dousan_PG
05-12-2005, 11:57 PM
oh yeah those electric superchargers are the shiznit. And finally no good 240sx owner leaves home without a Akina Speedstars, Nightkids, Emperor, or Redsuns sticker, cuz...why would you leave home w/o represeing your l33t club with a 240sx, geo metro, and a toyota corolla, and your friend with his mom's minivan


man you know what too much about initial D
..

futureteg
05-12-2005, 11:59 PM
Wow I can't believe the money you think you are going to get for the wheels and the fact that you deny being a bandwagon jumper....You are the kind of person I would hate to buy that 240 from I would have to spend a lot of time trying to get it back to stock instead of JDM Ebay Tyte. I don't know if you understand the difference between an ebay strut bar and say a Nismo Power brace....oh well I don't even feel like arguing dousan seems to be doing just fine hahaaaaaaa.
i understand the difference. But even an ebay strut bar will give you some improvement, so why would you spend 100 bucks on a nismo or whatever, when ti can be better suited in a rear sway bar...where the difference will be a lot more noticalbe.

For every knowledgeble car person there are 300 idiots, who couldn't identify an intake in an engine bay, and when did i say something about jdm ebay tight, all i mentioned was used so that hte first owner takes teh hit on depreciation :mepoke:

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:00 AM
Wow I can't believe the money you think you are going to get for the wheels and the fact that you deny being a bandwagon jumper....You are the kind of person I would hate to buy that 240 from I would have to spend a lot of time trying to get it back to stock instead of JDM Ebay Tyte. I don't know if you understand the difference between an ebay strut bar and say a Nismo Power brace....oh well I don't even feel like arguing dousan seems to be doing just fine hahaaaaaaa.

you have a AE86 corolla....there is no way you didn't jump abandwagon ther

Dousan_PG
05-13-2005, 12:03 AM
it was jokes on the ebay shit..anyways..

buy used parts futureteg
you can get so many used 240sx parts its nuts.
saves a lot for a daily driver
im doing that on my other s13. used parts galore.
s14 gets the new stuff.
junkyard is good for s13 too, you can fix all that
new paint is only a fewhundred bucks..or less if you prep yourself, takes a day at most for a qiuckie prep.

car could look good with some love
sell it and make a profit
and dont get steelies. if anything get some junkyard mesh and that will bump the value when yousell it.

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:04 AM
damn this has degenerated fast. Ok people are trying to give you good advice here but you do seem resistant to it to a fault. Thats pretty much why aaron is giving you a hard time.
If you would take the time to listen to some of these guys suggestions you would not be sinking tons into the car but still coming out better than your own stated plans.
First off strut braces stiffen your chassis some they are not a huge performance upgrade handling wise.
If you want a set of good strut braces look around, there are sets in the $135 range that are quite nice.
the $50 ebay ones are pretty much junk.You would be better off finding a used set of the old school Greddy bars for around $50-75. As far as suspension goes the only reason most of us are talking coilovers, even cheaper ones, like Megans for $800-900 is because the AGX spring combo is ok, but kinda sucky. I know I ran them AGX's with HKS springs. Tein S tech springs are soft . I would not recommend them to anyone.
Also with a little work your car is going to be worth a lot more than the 1100 you paid for it. even with the higher mileage. Check out the cars that are for sale and selling . you got yourself a pretty damn good deal and your cheaping out because you think you paid what your car is worth.
If I got those wheels on that car I would run them. 16's are ten times better than 15's and those 16's are wider than stock as well . IMHO
You will not make enough off selling those rims to really do your suspension right. If your going to sell that 8k teg of yours, than you will be in a position to do things right, and not spend mad bank. Put it this way,that right investments and your cars value will increase . These cars have actually gained value in the last couple of years, don't sell them short just because you got yours cheap.
car value never increases with mods, whcih is why i always tend to have a garage full of spare oem parts, s otaht when i bring my car back to stock I can do it w/o trying to find a used oem part.

Reason I don't like these 16s is that the tire combo is off, the tire size is 205/40/16, on all 4 corners, which means a) speedo is off(correct size shoudl be 45), and b) i believe on rwd cars your rear tires need to be thicker no?

And yes I realize in you get what you pay for, but with some used deals you can get same parts as new for like 25-50% of the cost.

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:04 AM
man you know what too much about initial D
..
i have all episodes + music. But thats pretty much only cuz it has to do with cars, got like 30 gigs of car vids as well ;)

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:08 AM
it was jokes on the ebay shit..anyways..

buy used parts futureteg
you can get so many used 240sx parts its nuts.
saves a lot for a daily driver
im doing that on my other s13. used parts galore.
s14 gets the new stuff.
junkyard is good for s13 too, you can fix all that
new paint is only a fewhundred bucks..or less if you prep yourself, takes a day at most for a qiuckie prep.

car could look good with some love
sell it and make a profit
and dont get steelies. if anything get some junkyard mesh and that will bump the value when yousell it.

yeah a repaint would be a good idea, nothing fancy, just your typical maaco crap paint job, gotta do the prep yourself with those guys, cuz they are known to paint over badges, have overspray and the like

matlock
05-13-2005, 12:13 AM
you have a AE86 corolla....there is no way you didn't jump abandwagon ther

I actually did not jump on the bandwagon, I do have an AE86 but previous to that I owned a 240 coupe and sold because I moved out of the state or else I would've kept that car. Also I moved here and purchased an AWD Audi Coupe Quattro and sold that and got a good deal on a clean 86 and I love FR layout and it is an easy car to work on and has low miles. But if it makes you feel better to call me a bandwagon jumper then go ahead I don't care I know im not and I have been on this forum for a while and I didn't just sell my Integra or Civic to get into the DR1Ft Scene. :Ownedd:

JuJuBee
05-13-2005, 12:15 AM
you are trying way too hard

drift freaq
05-13-2005, 12:21 AM
car value never increases with mods, whcih is why i always tend to have a garage full of spare oem parts, s otaht when i bring my car back to stock I can do it w/o trying to find a used oem part.

Reason I don't like these 16s is that the tire combo is off, the tire size is 205/40/16, on all 4 corners, which means a) speedo is off(correct size shoudl be 45), and b) i believe on rwd cars your rear tires need to be thicker no?

And yes I realize in you get what you pay for, but with some used deals you can get same parts as new for like 25-50% of the cost.

ok mister expert, there you go again, instead of listening, your telling people they are wrong. Hahahahahahaha, your experience may be based on unwise choices? Reason I say this is, again Aaron makes a good point, about finding good used performance parts, for reasonable prices, not crap parts but name parts. If you did do that you would increase the value, go ahead and doubt me . I will laugh the whole time.
You really need to read and learn here. Your dealing with a car you have no experience around, but your trying to tell all of us, who have been here awhile, that we do not know what we are talking about.
If you took the time to read the forum, you would realize that if your smart about it, you can indeed increase the value through certain mods. Ya if you go all out crazy, you will spend to much and not regain it. If you do it right though, you can build a car that will retain most, if not all of what you have in it . Build smart, its that simple.
oh ya and stick 45's on those wheels if you want to correct your speedo that bad. Tire profile and aspect ratio to rim size is not written in stone.

Dousan_PG
05-13-2005, 12:24 AM
dave's right
the guys owned and sold many cars, he knows.
yep modding a 240sx DOES increase its value. if you know what to do to it. and doest cost that much if you know how to shop and which parts to buy, because you can make a lot of money over the initial purchase.

ill probably do the same w/ my s13 so i can buy a decent daily driver

matlock
05-13-2005, 12:33 AM
Initial Purchase is that like Initial D because he knows all about that Aaron haha I just had to say that I am feeling like a meanie haha. But seriously if you can find a 240 for a decent price and you put some good parts on it (not crazy stuff) like they said you can actually get your car up in value and have good performance not half ass ebay stuff and then you will be able to sell the car for more or as much, but do what you want its your car.

SilviaDriver
05-13-2005, 12:36 AM
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/assets/images/bandwagon.gif

jump on futureteg

SR240DET
05-13-2005, 09:24 AM
car value never increases with mods, whcih is why i always tend to have a garage full of spare oem parts, s otaht when i bring my car back to stock I can do it w/o trying to find a used oem part.

Reason I don't like these 16s is that the tire combo is off, the tire size is 205/40/16, on all 4 corners, which means a) speedo is off(correct size shoudl be 45), and b) i believe on rwd cars your rear tires need to be thicker no?

And yes I realize in you get what you pay for, but with some used deals you can get same parts as new for like 25-50% of the cost.

correction.. should be 55.. your speedo will still be off with 45.... :keke:

you shouldnt provide false information... you will make alot of people mad if somebody saw that and actually got 45's for 16's.... they would be pissed....

for my girl we picked up a 96 civic for that price with 80k miles... perfect condition (except for the paint.)... runs like a champ..... i think that would make better for a daily driver than a 240 like you picked up... dont you think?

Kreator
05-13-2005, 09:47 AM
blah. if its a beater wtf do you still want to mod it? that concept escapes me.

And just like sr240det pointed out, there are much better options of NEWER cars for the money that will work much better as a daily beater. So if you are still going to stick to the "i'm not jumping t3h bandwagon here" crap, i'll e-slap you.

spdfreek0o
05-13-2005, 11:05 AM
http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?attachmentid=9096&stc=1

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:01 PM
I actually did not jump on the bandwagon, I do have an AE86 but previous to that I owned a 240 coupe and sold because I moved out of the state or else I would've kept that car. Also I moved here and purchased an AWD Audi Coupe Quattro and sold that and got a good deal on a clean 86 and I love FR layout and it is an easy car to work on and has low miles. But if it makes you feel better to call me a bandwagon jumper then go ahead I don't care I know im not and I have been on this forum for a while and I didn't just sell my Integra or Civic to get into the DR1Ft Scene. :Ownedd:

like i've been saying for the past 2 pages, i did not get the car to drift with. talk about hitting a dead horse.

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:02 PM
you are trying way too hard
just trying to get the post count up:P

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:02 PM
ok mister expert, there you go again, instead of listening, your telling people they are wrong. Hahahahahahaha, your experience may be based on unwise choices? Reason I say this is, again Aaron makes a good point, about finding good used performance parts, for reasonable prices, not crap parts but name parts. If you did do that you would increase the value, go ahead and doubt me . I will laugh the whole time.
You really need to read and learn here. Your dealing with a car you have no experience around, but your trying to tell all of us, who have been here awhile, that we do not know what we are talking about.
If you took the time to read the forum, you would realize that if your smart about it, you can indeed increase the value through certain mods. Ya if you go all out crazy, you will spend to much and not regain it. If you do it right though, you can build a car that will retain most, if not all of what you have in it . Build smart, its that simple.
oh ya and stick 45's on those wheels if you want to correct your speedo that bad. Tire profile and aspect ratio to rim size is not written in stone.

I know...but new tires will run at least 200, I don't feel like spending the money. And yes mods do add value, but are u going to tell me that say:

you car costs 2K stock, you put a 1K suspension on it, you think anyone is going to pay you 3K for the car?

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:04 PM
dave's right
the guys owned and sold many cars, he knows.
yep modding a 240sx DOES increase its value. if you know what to do to it. and doest cost that much if you know how to shop and which parts to buy, because you can make a lot of money over the initial purchase.

ill probably do the same w/ my s13 so i can buy a decent daily driver

so you are telling me that if i "invest" 2K into a 1K 240....I will actually get a sale of 3.5-5-10-15-20-30K?

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:05 PM
Initial Purchase is that like Initial D because he knows all about that Aaron haha I just had to say that I am feeling like a meanie haha. But seriously if you can find a 240 for a decent price and you put some good parts on it (not crazy stuff) like they said you can actually get your car up in value and have good performance not half ass ebay stuff and then you will be able to sell the car for more or as much, but do what you want its your car.

the only ebay stuff I mentioned were the strut bars, since they don't really do that much to begin with. I like how you guys keep putting words in my motuh

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:06 PM
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/assets/images/bandwagon.gif

jump on futureteg

thats a bad picture, there is a gif, that has the initial D corolla, with a wagon attached to the rear, and it shows :) <-- these things piling up on it

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:07 PM
correction.. should be 55.. your speedo will still be off with 45.... :keke:

you shouldnt provide false information... you will make alot of people mad if somebody saw that and actually got 45's for 16's.... they would be pissed....

for my girl we picked up a 96 civic for that price with 80k miles... perfect condition (except for the paint.)... runs like a champ..... i think that would make better for a daily driver than a 240 like you picked up... dont you think?

well she got lucky, the cheapest 96 civic, DX wtih 130K miles or more...will still run around 3-4K around here. You are probably in cali where the cars are a lot more common and cheaper. What size would be on 15s?

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:08 PM
blah. if its a beater wtf do you still want to mod it? that concept escapes me.

And just like sr240det pointed out, there are much better options of NEWER cars for the money that will work much better as a daily beater. So if you are still going to stick to the "i'm not jumping t3h bandwagon here" crap, i'll e-slap you.

mod it because if i'm going to drive the car I want it to be fun to drive, and what kind of better options can you think off for 1K? Cavalier? Neon? I'd rather walk

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:09 PM
http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?attachmentid=9096&stc=1
:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

matlock
05-13-2005, 12:17 PM
like i've been saying for the past 2 pages, i did not get the car to drift with. talk about hitting a dead horse.

I was talking about myself, you called me a bandwagon jumper and I was saying I didn't sell my civic or Integra (2 cars I have never owned anyways) to get into the drift scene just now since it is cool or something. I was saying I have been involved in this community and I am not just getting into it.

Kreator
05-13-2005, 12:23 PM
mod it because if i'm going to drive the car I want it to be fun to drive, and what kind of better options can you think off for 1K? Cavalier? Neon? I'd rather walk

not necessarily. nissan sentra, mazda protege, subaru impreza. A quick search revealed about 6 cars total in sub $1K range, 1994+, with ~150K miles w/in 50 miles of my zip code.

Do you SERIOUSLY expect us to believe that you bought a 240sx as a best BEATER option you could find, with it's recent popularity, your ownership of the entire initial d collection, and the fact that you are a honda owner? Dude, you are so riding the bandwagon its not even funny. Not that its a bad thing, half the members on here (even more by now prolly) are doing it, just stop denying it. And if you are gonna mod it, spend money properly.

edit: and holy double posts! you know there is a handy "edit" button right?

futureteg
05-13-2005, 12:36 PM
not necessarily. nissan sentra, mazda protege, subaru impreza. A quick search revealed about 6 cars total in sub $1K range, 1994+, with ~150K miles w/in 50 miles of my zip code.

Do you SERIOUSLY expect us to believe that you bought a 240sx as a best BEATER option you could find, with it's recent popularity, your ownership of the entire initial d collection, and the fact that you are a honda owner? Dude, you are so riding the bandwagon its not even funny. Not that its a bad thing, half the members on here (even more by now prolly) are doing it, just stop denying it. And if you are gonna mod it, spend money properly.

edit: and holy double posts! you know there is a handy "edit" button right?

for 1K the only sentra you can get is a B13 i think thats the code, mazda protege is a pos too, subaru impreza I dunno what you are smoking, isnce the only one in that area is probably the wagon thingie. I'm not a fan of boxy cars, and since the cheapest 92+ civic was 2000+ pass.

Try searching for a car in my area...zipcode 07043(not my zipcode but close enough), and please ..search only within 25 miles, reason for that is that 50 miles = gets tiresome to drive if you have to look at 2 or 3 cars.

I do not believe I doubleposted :P, I just answered each person in own post.

And do me a favor, bookmark my username, and then search my posts a year from now, if you find 1 post I make about me drifting I'll paypal you 20 bucks.

s13gonwild
05-13-2005, 01:03 PM
damm futureteg..this is getting stupid...just stop...i hope this gets locked..stupid post..your not taking any advice from people..and just talk back to them...if your going to do that, you dont belong on a forum.

futureteg
05-13-2005, 02:54 PM
Why should I stop, I'm just defending an argument, this isn't a flame war, and no insults.

Why should I take advice from people? Did I at any point ask ...hey everybody what should I get? I'm just defending my point of view, that it is indeed my car and my money, and anything I decide to do to it is my choice, until you put up money to pay for the mods, I don't have to listen :P

My other gripe, is that everyone is putting words into my mouth, making me look like another fanboy who got on the bandwagon, cuz I want to be a JDM Tite Drifter.

To reiterate my point for the 20th time, I don't want to spend a lot of money, and even a shitty ass spring setup on stock shocks, will be an improvement over stock in handling. Excuse me for not liking my car to look like a 4x4 truck...just because the motor came from the truck, doesn't mean the stock height should be similiar to one.

Kreator
05-13-2005, 03:11 PM
just because the motor came from the truck, doesn't mean the stock height should be similiar to one.


muahahahahahahaa if anything, THIS definately puts you right on t3h bandwag0n.

lol dude, seriously. nobody gives a shit. Everyone is fucking wiht you because you are stuck up on the fact that "this is just a beater" and "i'm not jumping on the bandwagon". lol. cmon. admit it. you know you bought it cuz its jdm tyte. didnt ya.

futureteg
05-13-2005, 03:17 PM
i bought it because its cheap and rwd, since i watned to learn to drive rwd, and if i crashed it or something it woudln't be a big deal

twong85
05-13-2005, 03:44 PM
i bought it because its cheap and rwd, since i watned to learn to drive rwd, and if i crashed it or something it woudln't be a big deal

Man that sux you bought it cause you wouldn't mind crashing it. If I thought like that I would've never bought a 240 in the first place with my limited savings. Mine's a beater, but my 86 camry was a MUCH better beater since it truly didn't hold any monetary value.
I don't see how changing the suspension would make the car any easier to drive. If its truly only for daily driving, then stock height is good for clearing bumps and uneven roads. Now if you plan on taking it up to the canyon roads on weekends or something.....that's a different story (even then you don't have to mod that much)

futureteg
05-13-2005, 04:12 PM
Man that sux you bought it cause you wouldn't mind crashing it. If I thought like that I would've never bought a 240 in the first place with my limited savings. Mine's a beater, but my 86 camry was a MUCH better beater since it truly didn't hold any monetary value.
I don't see how changing the suspension would make the car any easier to drive. If its truly only for daily driving, then stock height is good for clearing bumps and uneven roads. Now if you plan on taking it up to the canyon roads on weekends or something.....that's a different story (even then you don't have to mod that much)
i didn't say easier...I said more fun and exciting, i.e. I'm not a fan of slowing way down just to take a tiny turn.

which would you rather crash a new 350Z for example or a 1K 240SX? Might as well learn on the 240, so if there is a fuck up you don't pay out of the ass

matlock
05-13-2005, 08:48 PM
Why should I stop, I'm just defending an argument, this isn't a flame war, and no insults.

Why should I take advice from people? Did I at any point ask ...hey everybody what should I get? I'm just defending my point of view, that it is indeed my car and my money, and anything I decide to do to it is my choice, until you put up money to pay for the mods, I don't have to listen :P

My other gripe, is that everyone is putting words into my mouth, making me look like another fanboy who got on the bandwagon, cuz I want to be a JDM Tite Drifter.

To reiterate my point for the 20th time, I don't want to spend a lot of money, and even a shitty ass spring setup on stock shocks, will be an improvement over stock in handling. Excuse me for not liking my car to look like a 4x4 truck...just because the motor came from the truck, doesn't mean the stock height should be similiar to one.

Okay first off if you do get a really bad spring setup on stock shocks (I.E. Cut springs) you will have a little better handling but the car will be bouncy, I would recomment getting KYB AGX's w/RSR springs, but that is just my .02 but you didn't ask so do your own thing.

SilviaDriver
05-13-2005, 08:58 PM
just because the motor came from the truck, doesn't mean the stock height should be similiar to one.

how do you know if somebody is a bandwagon jumper? when he calls the 240sx a truck motor becuase they dont know the truth.

hahahahaha

futureteg
05-13-2005, 09:28 PM
how do you know if somebody is a bandwagon jumper? when he calls the 240sx a truck motor becuase they dont know the truth.

hahahahaha

shouldn't I know the truth, if I was a bandwagoner? I heard that mentioned a few times so I figured hey might be true

futureteg
05-13-2005, 09:31 PM
Okay first off if you do get a really bad spring setup on stock shocks (I.E. Cut springs) you will have a little better handling but the car will be bouncy, I would recomment getting KYB AGX's w/RSR springs, but that is just my .02 but you didn't ask so do your own thing.
well say you get just springs that lower the car 1.5-2 inches or whatever, on stock shocks, it won't bounce :P

SR240DET
05-13-2005, 09:40 PM
well say you get just springs that lower the car 1.5-2 inches or whatever, on stock shocks, it won't bounce :P


AGAIN!... stop with the false info.... it will bounce...or......... not at all.... because the stock shocks will blow out...... especially on a 12 year old car.... your shocks may already be blown out...

Dousan_PG
05-13-2005, 09:45 PM
shouldn't I know the truth, if I was a bandwagoner? I heard that mentioned a few times so I figured hey might be true

no, bandwagoners DONT know the truth
and the what you said, was incorrect (wrong).

1.5 to 2 inch drop will blow shocks. i know people who've done it
and regretted it.

SilviaDriver
05-13-2005, 09:47 PM
no, bandwagoners DONT know the truth
and the what you said, was incorrect (wrong).

1.5 to 2 inch drop will blow shocks. i know people who've done it
and regretted it.

therefore you [futureteg] are a bandwagon.

as dousan said earlier, only bandwagoners defend that they arent a bandwagoner

MakotoS13
05-13-2005, 10:15 PM
honestly man.... i can understand not dumping tons of money in a car you dont care much about but pretending like you know crap when you obviously dont is just ridiculous.

you are a typical honda owner used to cheap crappy parts and low end get by habits.

like this guy that i saw on cardomain. bought every syspension part imaginable... then put it all on progressive rate springs and AGX's.... fuggin stupid and senseless.

ignorance is not knowing. stupidity is relishing in and defending your ignorance.

91CRXsiR
05-13-2005, 10:19 PM
i didn't say easier...I said more fun and exciting, i.e. I'm not a fan of slowing way down just to take a tiny turn.

which would you rather crash a new 350Z for example or a 1K 240SX? Might as well learn on the 240, so if there is a fuck up you don't pay out of the ass


right on baby, crashed my 1st few years ago working on the next one.. =)


and im not a bandwagoner just work on your car and read and search b4 u ask a question cuz its been covered.. the only thing thats new around here is early bandwagoners making fun of new bandwagoners pretty lame

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:06 AM
AGAIN!... stop with the false info.... it will bounce...or......... not at all.... because the stock shocks will blow out...... especially on a 12 year old car.... your shocks may already be blown out...

yes it'll bounce when stock shocks blow out, but before then tehy won't. I had springs before, and the shocks were fine after 30K miles with a 1.5 inch drop....now who is the one giving false info

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:07 AM
no, bandwagoners DONT know the truth
and the what you said, was incorrect (wrong).

1.5 to 2 inch drop will blow shocks. i know people who've done it
and regretted it.

right...because knowing the truth dosen't make you a bandwagoner...last I heard bandwagoner only had to do wtih choosing to do stuff because other people do it....never realized having or not having knowledge had anything to do with it.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:08 AM
yes it'll bounce when stock shocks blow out, but before then tehy won't. I had springs before, and the shocks were fine after 30K miles with a 1.5 inch drop....now who is the one giving false info

oh you had this on a 240sx before? really.

this isnt a honda of yours w/ low mileage, not a 12 year old car w/ stock shocks.

we also dont lose tires w/ tons of camber.
and our lsds are in the rear of the car, not the tranny. ;) haha


stop trying to act as you know everything
stfu and listen to advice.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:09 AM
therefore you [futureteg] are a bandwagon.

as dousan said earlier, only bandwagoners defend that they arent a bandwagoner

I'm a bandwagon? So who is jumping on me first? :ghey:

Ok you say bandwagoners defend when they aren't a bandwagoner, then what would a non badnwonger do? Say "Yes...I'm a bandwagoner"...you don't make much sense buddy.

Like I said before I'll put up 20 bucks to whomever, that I won't inquire about drifting in the next year. I have no problems making that bet just because i know i won't be drifting the car, should be a safe bet for you guys considering you all know what I really plan to do with the car :rolleyes:

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:13 AM
honestly man.... i can understand not dumping tons of money in a car you dont care much about but pretending like you know crap when you obviously dont is just ridiculous.

you are a typical honda owner used to cheap crappy parts and low end get by habits.

like this guy that i saw on cardomain. bought every syspension part imaginable... then put it all on progressive rate springs and AGX's.... fuggin stupid and senseless.

ignorance is not knowing. stupidity is relishing in and defending your ignorance.

I know some, I may not know much about the 240 yet, but thats no big deal, can't expect someone to know everything when they just got the car. Hell most knowledge comes from either working on cars, or from seeing other ppl's posts and seeing the diffferent problems solutions.

Cheap parts? My coil overs cost $1200 new, but I got them for $400 since they were used by a guy I knew for a year.

My RSX-S had a fujitusbo powergetter exahust, when I first got it, there were a total of 10 of those in US, because no company imported them.

You talk about ignorance, but isn't it ignorance assuming someone is doing something when they are not? Granted if I was setting up a race or drift car I'd go and spend a thousand bucks to get Tein Basics or something along those lines, but I'm not. I do want to improve the car's handling, but only in street use, no sense in spedning the money if you are not going to use it.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:16 AM
thats fine
the car isnt made for drift, its an excellent grip car as well.
i dont believe anyone said you would be a drifter
you just are a bandwagon jumper.
drifting ha snothing to do with it
you bring up the drifting. you bring up the Initial D.


the FIRST mention of drifting on this whole thread..was by you.

plans above, the nick I chose cuz I wasn't sure I was getting the 240, and I didnt' want your usual JDM Dorifto Akina Speedstars Takumi style nick :P And yaeh the tint is purple sadly.


the next talk of 'drift related' was by..oh you, page 2
t least with the 240, I'll have it to drive around, and I know that anytime I sell it, I can get all my money back from the car since the # of bandwagoners grows everytime initial d releases a new episode.


and again...by you
In ANY of my posts, did I indicate my intent to drift, to bandwagon, or any of those things, just because you bought a car for the JDM tight driftness, after watching initial D, doesn't mean other people do it for those reasons.


and goes on like that..you are the ONLY one discussing anything about drifting
we are just making fun of your stupidity and 'knowledge' which is shit.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:17 AM
oh you had this on a 240sx before? really.

this isnt a honda of yours w/ low mileage, not a 12 year old car w/ stock shocks.

we also dont lose tires w/ tons of camber.
and our lsds are in the rear of the car, not the tranny. ;) haha


stop trying to act as you know everything
stfu and listen to advice.

Yes the shocks may not be new but the point still stands, just because you get a set of springs, don't mean the shocks go insta kablooey, I know nissan reliablity is nothing like a honda, but hey they probably use same shock design.

um....there is this little thing called a camber kit, it prevents your tires from getting camber wear OOOOOH.

and since when did a USDM 240SX come with a LSD stock?

I fail to see any advice, the only advice I see is people telling me:

yo yo yo dawg, you want to get a SR20, and some 1 thousand dollar coil overs...pardon me, but thats the exact same bandwagon that you guys are accusing me of. Quit telling me how to spend my own money.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:20 AM
define what a bandwagon is...please.

OMG OMG He is getting the same car as me. Well sadly, manufacturers like to make this thing called a profit, so they make more than 1 car.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:20 AM
Yes the shocks may not be new but the point still stands, just because you get a set of springs, don't mean the shocks go insta kablooey, I know nissan reliablity is nothing like a honda, but hey they probably use same shock design.

um....there is this little thing called a camber kit, it prevents your tires from getting camber wear OOOOOH.

and since when did a USDM 240SX come with a LSD stock?

I fail to see any advice, the only advice I see is people telling me:

yo yo yo dawg, you want to get a SR20, and some 1 thousand dollar coil overs...pardon me, but thats the exact same bandwagon that you guys are accusing me of. Quit telling me how to spend my own money.


haha its great.
we dont use camber kits
-3.5 camber wont kill the tires. toe does. this isnt a honda.

USDM does come w /stock LSD. 91-98 varies on model, would need hicas for 91+ and needs some fancy pants model for 95+. so again, it can come w/ LSD stock.


yet again you know nothing. stfu.
again stop trying ot be mr. know-it-all and just shutup, read up and listen.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:23 AM
haha its great.
we dont use camber kits
-3.5 camber wont kill the tires. toe does. this isnt a honda.

USDM does come w /stock LSD. 91-98 varies on model, would need hicas for 91+ and needs some fancy pants model for 95+. so again, it can come w/ LSD stock.


yet again you know nothing. stfu.
again stop trying ot be mr. know-it-all and just shutup, read up and listen.

can't know everything :goyou: I'm not a know it all, but I do know your general things, mostly from reading other people doing mods, or from working on the actual car. With your 9900 posts, most likely, you learned one or two things from other ppl on the forum. Or you were born as a nissan 240sx genius.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:24 AM
whats this hicas u speak off...sounds ilke hiccups

matlock
05-14-2005, 12:26 AM
Damn Dousan you just served him I like how he thinks he knows ALL about 240's like them not coming with stock lsds and they have a truck motor and he can make his shocks work even though we have all seen what happens. Futureteg I also like how since you got these coilovers for $400 for your Integra that you will get all your parts for super cheap.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:26 AM
yes that right you DONT know it all
so stop trying to act like you DO know it all.

no i never said i was a genius about the car.
i read for 1 year before even posting.
so i wont come off as a complete fucking tool as you are.
i knew something before acting like im the best thing since sliced bread

take a look at this thraed. the only reason its still going is becaus eyour constantly making a jackassof yourselft trying to 'school' other people constantly

you dont know shit. your a moron when it comes to the car.
stop trying to prove yourself and that you actually KNOW something about it. you already landed flat on your face since page 1.


its extremely humerous.
very nitekids-esque.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:28 AM
whats this hicas u speak off...sounds ilke hiccups


4 wheel steering action.

matlock
05-14-2005, 12:28 AM
whats this hicas u speak off...sounds ilke hiccups

You don't know what HICAS is and you are the 240 expert :whip: ....HICAS is All wheel steering on select 240 models.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:31 AM
Damn Dousan you just served him I like how he thinks he knows ALL about 240's like them not coming with stock lsds and they have a truck motor and he can make his shocks work even though we have all seen what happens. Futureteg I also like how since you got these coilovers for $400 for your Integra that you will get all your parts for super cheap.

I never said I knew everything about 240s.
Because I have no problems waiting for the right deals to come around, I made quiet a few deals where I doubled my money...just gotta find a person needing to get rid of their stuff because they are selling the car, need to pay mortage, or are idiots with ebay.

i.e. I got a set of integra seats for $26 picked up, since the guy didn't want to ship. I then proceeded to sell them for $250. Or a DC Sports header, got for $50 , and sold for $185. All of my parts that I bought I either sold for more than what I paid, the same amount that I paid, or lost 10% in value.

Thast what my RSX told me, 3 grand "invested" and you barely have anything to show for it. Sicne you pay retail for every part

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:35 AM
yes that right you DONT know it all
so stop trying to act like you DO know it all.
when did I act?

no i never said i was a genius about the car.
i read for 1 year before even posting.
so i wont come off as a complete fucking tool as you are.
i knew something before acting like im the best thing since sliced bread

reading is overrated, I'd rather be enlightened by pissed off people that think I'm a moron, than go out of my way to read a thread upon a thread with conflicting info.

take a look at this thraed. the only reason its still going is becaus eyour constantly making a jackassof yourselft trying to 'school' other people constantly
the only reason its going is because u keep circling the bandwagon thing



you dont know shit. your a moron when it comes to the car.
stop trying to prove yourself and that you actually KNOW something about it. you already landed flat on your face since page 1.
its extremely humerous.
very nitekids-esque.

and I bet now someone is going to come in and say "OMG WTF PWNED, you showed him"

futureteg
05-14-2005, 12:36 AM
You don't know what HICAS is and you are the 240 expert :whip: ....HICAS is All wheel steering on select 240 models.
and what models would htat be? And I never said I was an expert. Geez do you guys say anything w/o putting words into other ppl's mouths?

first I'm a bandwagoner
then I'm an expert

what next you gonna have me say that I was the lead designer on the 240sx?

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:38 AM
you act like you know it all this whole thread. like i said, its quite amusing.

reading is overrated.
right.
cant learn anything that way!
most threads dont have conflicting info. very few do for the msot part.



bandwagon jumpaaaaaaaa!

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:41 AM
and what models would htat be? And I never said I was an expert. Geez do you guys say anything w/o putting words into other ppl's mouths?

first I'm a bandwagoner
then I'm an expert

what next you gonna have me say that I was the lead designer on the 240sx?

the good models go use the SEARCH mode.
might learn something

you dont have to say something directly. you implied it from the beginning. your advice isnt wrong. other people have given you lots of advice youve thrown it back saying their wrong.
how would you know? you have no first hand expirience or knowledge. you picked up a beat POS 93.


you act like your hot shit because you cna get such GREAT deals. wow. im sure everyone is so impressed by that.

matlock
05-14-2005, 12:41 AM
Okay we are calling you an expert because
A. you claim the car has a truck motor
B. you claim the car does not have an LSD stock
C. you claim hicas was a form of indegestion
D. you are a bandwagon jumper

raen419
05-14-2005, 12:48 AM
hahaha, this is amusing.

btw, dousan, swapped subframes, no more hicas...hahaha
free subframes are so nice.

glad this isn't the only forum w/ the same old shit popping up from like....4 years ago....ugh
i hate it when noobs try to act like they actually know everything.

drive the car
enjoy the car
fix the car
don't tell us what you plan to do with it, just drive it and have fun....fuck, how hard is that???

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 12:53 AM
nice! hicas is no fun...for most
did you get rid of the ABS yet?
its easy to do too, and mega cheap. even w/ new lines from dealer
nice. nice!

twong85
05-14-2005, 01:11 AM
Damn look at all the posts you made already in such a short time. I don't think I got to 10 before my first 6 months...I feel like a newb T_T

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:50 AM
you act like you know it all this whole thread. like i said, its quite amusing.

reading is overrated.
right.
cant learn anything that way!
most threads dont have conflicting info. very few do for the msot part.



bandwagon jumpaaaaaaaa!

I learned that its best to ask my own questions. For example I got a strut bar for my GS. Now the GS doesn't have the bolts for it like GSR or Type R does, so I had to use my own bolts, now the threads I could find didn't really mention the size, except 1 that say they needed to be 13 mm I think or somethingl ike that, when in reality it was like 8-10, so I wasted 20 bucks on hardware

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:52 AM
the good models go use the SEARCH mode.
might learn something

you dont have to say something directly. you implied it from the beginning. your advice isnt wrong. other people have given you lots of advice youve thrown it back saying their wrong.
how would you know? you have no first hand expirience or knowledge. you picked up a beat POS 93.


you act like your hot shit because you cna get such GREAT deals. wow. im sure everyone is so impressed by that.

Yes I said their advice is wrong....for my application, they gave the advice thinking I was them, or was building a race car. I have first hand experience with other cars, granted they were hondas but its the same concept, lemme guess to remove the front strut you need take out a big bolt from the bottom, and hten there is probably some brake lines bolts and the bolts in the engine bay. Its all the same more or less.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:53 AM
Okay we are calling you an expert because
A. you claim the car has a truck motor
B. you claim the car does not have an LSD stock
C. you claim hicas was a form of indegestion
D. you are a bandwagon jumper

Wouldn't that be the opposite of expert

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:53 AM
hahaha, this is amusing.

btw, dousan, swapped subframes, no more hicas...hahaha
free subframes are so nice.

glad this isn't the only forum w/ the same old shit popping up from like....4 years ago....ugh
i hate it when noobs try to act like they actually know everything.

drive the car
enjoy the car
fix the car
don't tell us what you plan to do with it, just drive it and have fun....fuck, how hard is that???

quiet noob, I have more posts than you now
:mephfawk:

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:54 AM
Damn look at all the posts you made already in such a short time. I don't think I got to 10 before my first 6 months...I feel like a newb T_T
I'll stop at 100 probably. Maybe 150, usually below that its always search noob or something along those lines.

JaeTea
05-14-2005, 08:10 AM
:Owned: :lockd: :lockd: :lockd: :lockd:

futureteg
05-14-2005, 08:19 AM
:Owned: :lockd: :lockd: :lockd: :lockd:
lemme guess you don't have the smarts to make your own insults, so you jump on someone else's coat tails to feel like a big guy.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 10:07 AM
i read your posts on hondahookup
you just cant take it like you dish it out huh?
nice shift knob.
and i like the rsx crash. good stuff.
bandwagon. for realllllzzz

futureteg
05-14-2005, 10:14 AM
i read your posts on hondahookup
you just cant take it like you dish it out huh?
nice shift knob.
and i like the rsx crash. good stuff.
bandwagon. for realllllzzz

can't take it? Dish out? I put more people in their place than your post count, it just got old and childish.

and i'm only on hhu cuz it was the first site I joined back in like 2001.

You can say all you want about the bandwagon don't make it true.

And I only got the shift knob...well you saw what the shift boot/knob looked like, actualyl I picked up a 95 Silvia oem shifter with a razo shift knob, so I might use that instead of the "type r" style one, depending which feel I like more
http://i21.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/05/d8/77_12_sb.JPG

Speaking of which is the sr20 shifter shorter than OEM? Will it even fit? If not I'll just sell the shifter, but keep the knob

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 10:17 AM
its all th esame shifter
USDM and JDM
no difference

sure you did, keep denying
it is bandwagon. just admit it. you still are in denial
maybe mommy and daddy will get you another nice car.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 10:23 AM
its all th esame shifter
USDM and JDM
no difference

sure you did, keep denying
it is bandwagon. just admit it. you still are in denial
maybe mommy and daddy will get you another nice car.

um...my rsx I paid for myself, I worked 40 hours a week to pay for it, insurance and carpaymen, when I totalled it I deceided I din't want to work any more and wanted to save my money, which is why i bought the integra. And now the 240. Honestly, why the fuck do you care so much about what I do with my finances?

Maybe because you are such a loser that you have to drive a 240SX as your primary means of transportation because you can't afford anything better? Maybe because you live on a message board and have 10K posts in 3 years? Maybe because thats the reason you got the car, to jump on a bandwagon, coming from a honda...since obviosly you had a honda before if u know of hondahookup

Well here is a tip buddy, if you want to afford good things, you gotta get a job that doesn't require you to ask "You want fries with that".

Now get off my balls, and go jump in front a moving bus.

pruto
05-14-2005, 10:25 AM
noobs who fight back, makes things interesting and fun =)

its ok, some people learn everything the hard way, i did. My breakout onto the 240 scene wasn't a smooth one either 4 years ago, people on FA was like "go search noob".

futureteg: one bit of advice, stop pissing people off, even if you think you are right. the 240sx community is extremely small compared to the honda community. You get on one too many people's badsides, you're screwed in terms of hookups, info, and the helping hand of otherwise nice people. So swallow your pride, you don't want to be left being right but without anybody left on your side. Friends and connections are the greatest comodity in the world of 240s, this is of course true in the real world, but word spreads fast around here.

use the search, the bs "this might not apply to my car" excuse doesn't work, since you can also find out if it does apply to your car with... the search. It is extremely helpful, i use it all the time. Reading is helpful, asking takes time, reading good previous threads is simple and quick, unless you can't read.

besides, you are fueling the "all noobs suck" sentiment this forum has been developing the last year, which is unfortunate.

Dousan_PG
05-14-2005, 10:25 AM
no actually i daily drive it and track the car on a regular basis, tires, track fees, maintenance upgrades, etc. thats why cant affford anything else as another car, but i do travel around the world often still. i dont pose, as you do

my job? my job is fine, its a very well paying job actually, im quite pleased w/ the job.

no actually google'd your username last night. it was fu nreading up on your 'black ice' expirience iirc.

ive never worked fastfood

i dont care what you do or dont do with your finances


i just enjoy making fun of you. you are so clueless its very funny.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 10:29 AM
noobs who fight back, makes things interesting and fun =)

its ok, some people learn everything the hard way, i did. My breakout onto the 240 scene wasn't a smooth one either 4 years ago, people on FA was like "go search noob".

futureteg: one bit of advice, stop pissing people off, even if you think you are right. the 240sx community is extremely small compared to the honda community. You get on one too many people's badsides, you're screwed in terms of hookups, info, and the helping hand of otherwise nice people. So swallow your pride, you don't want to be left being right but without anybody left on your side. Friends and connections are the greatest comodity in the world of 240s, this is of course true in the real world, but word spreads fast around here.

use the search, the bs "this might not apply to my car" excuse doesn't work, since you can also find out if it does apply to your car with... the search. It is extremely helpful, i use it all the time. Reading is helpful, asking takes time, reading good previous threads is simple and quick, unless you can't read.

besides, you are fueling the "all noobs suck" sentiment this forum has been developing the last year, which is unfortunate.


:jerkit: if search is so helpfull, I wouldn't need the help as is. And like I've mentioned numerous times before I'm not planning to do anything major...and I'm pretty confident that I should be able to do suspension upgrades without the allmighty help. And hey worst comes to worse there is always other 240 forums. And I have plenty of friends, so I have no need to have them on a messageboard.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 10:34 AM
no actually i daily drive it and track the car on a regular basis, tires, track fees, maintenance upgrades, etc. thats why cant affford anything else as another car, but i do travel around the world often still. i dont pose, as you do
my job? my job is fine, its a very well paying job actually, im quite pleased w/ the job.
no actually google'd your username last night. it was fu nreading up on your 'black ice' expirience iirc.
ive never worked fastfood
i dont care what you do or dont do with your finances
i just enjoy making fun of you. you are so clueless its very funny.

wow you used google....don't you think its kinda odd that someone would have an RSX and use the name futureteg as their name...could it possibly be that the person used other names before that? :loco:

you could afford something else if u werent on the drifting bandwagon.
Why would I pose, "hey everybody I own a 1,000 dollar car, look at me I'm sooo kewl"

If it was so well paying why can't you afford 500 dollars for a monthly payment for that 350Z or whatever...I mean hey its only 500 bucks nothing major right?

If you don't care then why must you tell me what I should or shouldn't do with the car? "Hey, you want to get a SR20, Tein coilovers, mega camber, and go drifting...os that you cna be just like me"

Karma is a bitch, you'll find out soon. I learned that with the rsx, made fun of a kid for "drifting" into a ditch like 2 months before, and then crashed mien, so you'll get yours I can count on it.

drift freaq
05-14-2005, 10:50 AM
I know...but new tires will run at least 200, I don't feel like spending the money. And yes mods do add value, but are u going to tell me that say:

you car costs 2K stock, you put a 1K suspension on it, you think anyone is going to pay you 3K for the car?
Been there, done it.
hahahahhaha, I told you not to go there with me. You did not listen, instead of taking me for my word, you argue. If you would look around the forum, you would see. I am selling cars and parts all the time. I do make investments in the cars, that increase there value from my purchase price. CAn you do that? well with your current attitude, in a word, no!!
You really need to pull the cotton out of your ears and put it were your mouth is. i.e. shut up, listen and learn. We are trying to help you here yet you resist like we are the borg!!! Hahahahaha resistant is futile. You must learn to listen to learn.

Jonnie Fraz
05-14-2005, 12:00 PM
Uh guys...somone please lock this.

dvdevo
05-14-2005, 06:07 PM
funny thread.

futureteg
05-14-2005, 06:18 PM
Been there, done it.
hahahahhaha, I told you not to go there with me. You did not listen, instead of taking me for my word, you argue. If you would look around the forum, you would see. I am selling cars and parts all the time. I do make investments in the cars, that increase there value from my purchase price. CAn you do that? well with your current attitude, in a word, no!!
You really need to pull the cotton out of your ears and put it were your mouth is. i.e. shut up, listen and learn. We are trying to help you here yet you resist like we are the borg!!! Hahahahaha resistant is futile. You must learn to listen to learn.

You probably had a deal to begin with :P

futureteg
05-14-2005, 06:22 PM
funny thread.
shizzle.......

futureteg
05-14-2005, 06:23 PM
Uh guys...somone please lock this.
Why? There is no profanity or anything:P......

Jonnie Fraz
05-14-2005, 06:34 PM
The reason this thread should be locked is because there is no reason for it to be five pages long with nothing but internet arguing.
At first I was kinda pissed that the guys were razzing you, but some of these guys are realy trying to help and you flame them.
I think you found a good buy, and you will have fun no matter what you do to it. It is your car, your money and I don't think I could live farther away from you and still be in the US.
So with that said good luck, and have a ton of fun in your new toy.

twong85
05-14-2005, 07:13 PM
Man people on zilvia are getting too nice lately. I still remember back in '02 before I lost the password to my old name, if you said something dumb, argued an idiotic point, asked a retarded question, everyone would just be like 'stfu' and maybe 1 person would say search. Now almost EVERYONE says search before jumping all over someone.

(this thread started bad....turned into stupid, stop trying to back yourself up its not working)

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:16 PM
The reason this thread should be locked is because there is no reason for it to be five pages long with nothing but internet arguing.
At first I was kinda pissed that the guys were razzing you, but some of these guys are realy trying to help and you flame them.
I think you found a good buy, and you will have fun no matter what you do to it. It is your car, your money and I don't think I could live farther away from you and still be in the US.
So with that said good luck, and have a ton of fun in your new toy.
:hug: :hug: :hug:

futureteg
05-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Man people on zilvia are getting too nice lately. I still remember back in '02 before I lost the password to my old name, if you said something dumb, argued an idiotic point, asked a retarded question, everyone would just be like 'stfu' and maybe 1 person would say search. Now almost EVERYONE says search before jumping all over someone.

(this thread started bad....turned into stupid, stop trying to back yourself up its not working)
stfu :Owned:

zeek
05-14-2005, 08:42 PM
HAHAHAHAAHHAH I've never laughed so hard in my life.
1st- If its a beater why even fucking post.
2nd- Who fucking cares what you want to do with ebay suspension.
3rd- Why even do anything to the car if your just going to daily drive it. "Beater"
4th- You have over 90 posts and You Joined May 05 and its the Fucking 14th....
5th- Dont Deny the USDM tightness of the "Truck Motor" and stock VLSD
6th- The fact that you currently own a "Honda" product just further Multiplys the fact that you like Wagons.
7th- Who the fuck in there right mind would buy a 33k Dollar 350z and modify it to "Drift" and void the warranty.
8th- I bought my car because it was cheap and you can "modify" your cheap car to out perform that stock ass 350z, in whatever form of motorsports your into.
9th- Go back to whatever honda Forum you came from.
10th- You just got :Owned: :fawk:

futureteg
05-14-2005, 09:00 PM
HAHAHAHAAHHAH I've never laughed so hard in my life.
1st- If its a beater why even fucking post.
2nd- Who fucking cares what you want to do with ebay suspension.
3rd- Why even do anything to the car if your just going to daily drive it. "Beater"
4th- You have over 90 posts and You Joined May 05 and its the Fucking 14th....
5th- Dont Deny the USDM tightness of the "Truck Motor" and stock VLSD
6th- The fact that you currently own a "Honda" product just further Multiplys the fact that you like Wagons.
7th- Who the fuck in there right mind would buy a 33k Dollar 350z and modify it to "Drift" and void the warranty.
8th- I bought my car because it was cheap and you can "modify" your cheap car to out perform that stock ass 350z, in whatever form of motorsports your into.
9th- Go back to whatever honda Forum you came from.
10th- You just got :Owned: :fawk:

1-because like i said its not gonna be stock
2-apparently everyone here does, and once again its not ebay suspension
3-because I don't want to daily drive a piece of shit, and thats what the 240 is stock. Have to slow way down just to take a turn, that in my teg I could take at full throttle
4-pretty much those 90 posts are in this thread :P
5-my car has LSD?
6-honda didn't make any wagons :smash:
7-just because you modify a car to drift, doesn't mean the warranty is void. They can only void warranty on parts affected by mods, i.e. you install suspension, you can't go in to dealer and bitch that your shocks are blown, but if your motor fucks up and its more or less stock(besides i/h/e) they cant' deny you warranty.
8-good for you, thats why the car is a good car, its cheap as hell to get, and with only a few mods raning from 1K to whatever, it can handle nicely
9-lets see honda forums I post on, clubrsx, hhu, honda-tech, team-integra, super-honda, honda-acura. But the last 2 are mainly to see if someone wants to buy my used parts, or is selling something dirt cheap
10-i disagree, can't say "owned" just by telling someone to go back to where ever they came from.


the only thing that came out of this thread is I raised the overall car's budget to 2K. This will leave me a lil more space to do the suspension properly.

0kami
05-14-2005, 09:23 PM
zilvia and all it's members including me should burn in hell.

pruto
05-14-2005, 10:00 PM
*sigh* so you're asking for help by pissing everyone off.

so if search wasn't useful, and you do need people's help, you've been asking for it exactly the wrong way. good job.

there are other 240sx forums, but guess what, most of us are on all the forums, most of the forums treat noobs and people like you the same.

i guess you know better than all of us about search and forums and ebay... so why are you on here?

futureteg
05-14-2005, 10:15 PM
zilvia and all it's members including me should burn in hell.why????????????

futureteg
05-14-2005, 10:16 PM
*sigh* so you're asking for help by pissing everyone off.

so if search wasn't useful, and you do need people's help, you've been asking for it exactly the wrong way. good job.

there are other 240sx forums, but guess what, most of us are on all the forums, most of the forums treat noobs and people like you the same.

i guess you know better than all of us about search and forums and ebay... so why are you on here?

never asked for help :P
i didn't search/ask for help just yet.
people like me?
i'm on here, since i like being able to make a thread when something goes wrong so I can get a quick answer that specifically answers my situation

S14DB
05-14-2005, 10:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/Posting/fire_extinguisher_train01.jpg
my word this thread went nuts. I think the only question he asked is if he could use late model turn signals. Yeah, we don't like "i'm new" posts but 5 pages of flames? Calm the fuck down!