in the planning stages of my KA turbo

[s13rookie]

im currently in the planning stages of building my 89 into a street machine.  as of now i plan on dropping in a  low mileage ka24de.  i am also leaning towards a t3/t4 turbo to boost it.  as this is my first experience with a turbo, i need some help.  i found a package for 1500, that includes the manifold, a new t3/t4, and an oil pan.  im sure it can be had for cheaper though so if anyone knows where to find it please let me know.  also, im just looking to push 225-275 whp, so im hoping to be able to do this on stock internals.  basically, im just wondering what dp i need to get a ka to those levels. turbo system, fuel, controllers?  any opiinion, comments or help with be appreciated. also the more specific the help the better, as , unfortunately, im a newbie (quite obvious huh?)  thanks a lot,     matt

[drift freaq]

well if your going KA +T then i would recommend upgrading your injectors to at least 370cc if not 550cc . I would also recommend getting either a Walbro fuel pump or a TT fuel pump. you also might want to think about getting a cobra maf and a JWT ecu upgrade for Turbo. external wastegate , bov , intercooler preferably front mount.
these upgrades should put you right in the ballpark.

[s13rookie]

ok  thanks,  but with the cobra maf.  do you mean mustang? shelby?     mustang right?

[240sxracer]

i would also like to know about the mustang maf what year works with the 240  what adapters or wiring do you have to do to make it work?

[Jeff240sx]

I know a '93 MAF works.  Then you gotta have someone (JWT) reprogram the ECU to accept its codes.

-Jeff

BTW.  Mustang Cobra.

[ijon03]

Is that turbo package you get from Daperformance(Knoxville)?
If it is  let me know how it work so i can get it from them too.
Since I'm in Nashville i dont bother with shipping.
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[s13rookie]

yeah, that is the kit from da. &nbsp;has anyone ever dealt with them?

[DSC]

If it's DA, I would have to advise against useing them. Nobody around has ever done business with them and from the little bit I've talked to them (through this forum and others) they don't know very much. IE: t25 turbos can happily push 20psi all day long or stock exhaust is better than aftermarket for an N/A engine becuase backpressure is nessesary. So, I wouldn't trust that shop with a dime of my money.

Also, I always encourage people to do as much research as possable before spending their money. Haveing said that, check out Maxium Boost (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0837601606/qid%3D1017640962/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/104-7009087-8955919). Since I'm not going turbo any time soon, I haven't read the book myself, but I've heard nothing but great stuff about that book and have been told its a "must read" for anybody new to forced induction.

Here's a clip from someone's review
"...As many other people have pointed out in their review, this book is not "the authority" on trubocharging, but after reading it and already possesing some working knowledge I can tackle more complicated texts much better. I wouldn't buy this book and expect to be able to custom fit a turbocharger, but you should be able to service the turbocharger on your factory turbocharged car."

Also, for a basic (6 page) run down on turbos check HERE (http://www.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm)

[9591]

I agree with DSC. But I promised a while ago to stop ragging on a certain company, so, once again, I won't rag on DAPerformance here. But you can get A RevHard manifold (the same that DA sells) for $500. Go to RevHard's website (revhard.com) to find a dealer. You don't want to use a T3/T4 with the RevHard mani (fitment problems), so go with a straight T3 or T4. Can be had for less than $700, new. Try Performance Techniques (turbonetics.com) or a host of other places. The oil pan is really not hard to adapt for the return line, the hard part is getting the thing off and back on again, but you'd have to do that, anyway.
Seems a little cheaper than buying from the unnamed (DAPerformance) company, doesn't it?

As for your HP goal, that's probably a bit beyond the capability of an FMU, so you'll need bigger injectors (550 is a good number), and something to control them with: either a &nbsp;JWT ECU upgrade, or a fuel controller (ie, SAFC), or a standalone ECU. More fuel means you need a bigger fuel pump. Other stuff would probably be useful, too.

[Jeff240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (9591 @ April 01 2002,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You don't want to use a T3/T4 with the RevHard mani (fitment problems), so go with a straight T3 or T4.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Umm. &nbsp;What fitment problems? &nbsp;The 240sx in SCC was running a t3/4E on a revhard manifold with 22psi. &nbsp;And doesn't FMax use Revhard manifolds? &nbsp;With their t3/4 kits? &nbsp;
-Jeff

[9591]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ April 01 2002,02:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (9591 @ April 01 2002,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You don't want to use a T3/T4 with the RevHard mani (fitment problems), so go with a straight T3 or T4.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Umm. What fitment problems? The 240sx in SCC was running a t3/4E on a revhard manifold with 22psi. And doesn't FMax use Revhard manifolds? With their t3/4 kits?
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
OK, this is what I've heard, and what I know.
I know that my T4 turbo, with its on-center housing, just barely clears the brake lines near the master cylinder (about 1/8"). There doesn't seem to be any way to reroute the lines for more clearance, since the interference is very close to the cylinder. This is with my '95. I've heard that S13s have similar problems. I know that T3s (the significant part of a T3/T4, for this discussion) are only available with tangential housings, not on-center. I think a tangential housing would only exacerbate the problem I mentioned, and I've also heard reports that this is true.
There you have it, for what it's worth. Thanks for calling me out; that was a good question.
BTW, XS claims they supply T3/T4s with their kit, which also uses a Revhard manifold, but I can state from experience that its actually a straight T4. And I've heard that Fmax doesn't use a Revhard manifold anymore.