nismo motor and tranny mounts ....

[9524tee]

yes i searched , could not get a straight answer from anything i looked at . so i decided to start this thread .... i have an auto s14 with a ka , im doing the 5 speed swap , and at the same time i am replacing my motor mounts , will the nismo motor and tranny mounts work , with a direct bolt on approach ? thanks .

[kandyflip445]

Yes they will work. You have to switch the motor mounts.

[smithers584]

yes they will work but keep in mind they are much stiffer and if you dont like your car to vibrate a little then you dont want them. I have them in my sr equipped s14 and at iddle my rear view mirror vibrates a bit, enough to distort vision through it.

[goodjuan]

i highly suggest that you save money and modify your stick mounts instead of getting the nismo ones. I actually have the nismo mounts. It was only after i had bought and installed them that I learned of filling them with urethane. I filled the mounts on my brother's car and his engine moves less than mine.


tube of window weld urethane is 12 dollars. Nismo ones are 175 or so.

http://sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0307scc_projser18_z.jpg 3M Windo-Weld fast-curing urethane goo (part # 051135-08609) Look up an automotive paint supply store in your area and they will have this in stock. (there should be one local.) good luck man

[9524tee]

they work and they are stiffer sweet ! thats great cuz i already bought them . :rawk: thanks everyone for giving me straight answers , much appreciated . :rawk:

[2JZGTE]

They work great. I installed the nismo engine and tranny mounts, now my steering wheel vibrates ever so slightly at idle, but that's it. Nismo mounts are harder rubber, while eurothane is much stiffer. Nismos are a good compromise between stock mounts and eurothane.

My shifter also moves MUCH LESS now. Good luck.

Billy

[riot]

Heh, you guys think those will make your steering wheel shake? Here are my motor mounts:

http://www.riotdesigns.com/240sx/splinstall/images/DSCF0041.jpg

For the record, the car is only driven once or twice a week. The only annoying part is at idle...just lots of vibration. Other than that, while cruising it's not a problem.

-ryan

[2JZGTE]

Damn Ryan, welded solid :eek3d: It's true though, as soon as you give it a little rev or get going from a stop all vibrations pretty much go away and the car smoothens out.

[nissan_driver24]

damn crazy... solid motor mounts!!! motor mounts are made to give a lil for engine movement, and if it doesn't move it's bound to break.... i have nismo motor and tranny mount on my s13 sr20det... just get very lil vibration while at idle, i highly recommmend them and as 2JZGTE stated before my stick shift has very little movement now.....

[drift freaq]

shameless plug here , guys SyKo Garage is developing a set of Urethane motor mounts for KA and SR that will absolutely kick ass and not be ghetto stylie like they were made with a tube of urethane window sealant.
these are going to be the real deal mounts with nice colored urethane high quality studs.

[riot]

I deSTROYED the stock mounts in less than a year. They had completely split in several places. I looked at several options, and one of the first options I turned down was ...paying $200+ for some "urethane" motor mounts. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them, they just aren't worth 200 of my dollars when I can weld them myself.

-ryan

[ultraDorksGarage]

Heh, you guys think those will make your steering wheel shake? Here are my motor mounts:

http://www.riotdesigns.com/240sx/splinstall/images/DSCF0041.jpg

For the record, the car is only driven once or twice a week. The only annoying part is at idle...just lots of vibration. Other than that, while cruising it's not a problem.

-ryan


as a side note, another trick is to go solid on one side, this allows some vibration movement but very little radial movement.

[The Hamsterball]

Don't mean to thread jack, but...

while we're on topic... My sohc engine with 170K miles...
When I bought the car, it didn't shake as much.

As I put more miles on it... It started shaking more.

That wasn't a problem. Then one day, when I engaged the clutch at my normal 1500RPM.... the car started shaking alot.

To prevent this I either have to engage a bit faster, for less shaking...
Or engage at higher RPM and faster.


I feel the shifter shake a LOT when this shaking happens, and have a hunch that it's my transmission mount or my engine mounts.

Do you guys think it would be my mounts? They look pretty old, but I haven't gotten to see them in depth.

I'm wondering if I should try nismo mounts because I have to replace my front suspension crossmember anyways (the car's sitting on jacks).

[sLip techniques]

if your shifter is shaking violently its the tranny mount

[vinhisbored]

When doing a 5 speed swap.. do the tranny mounts need to be replaced, or are sufficient?

[sepulchral]

theyll work and work great

[Dream240]

When doing a 5 speed swap.. do the tranny mounts need to be replaced, or are sufficient?

There's only one tranny mount and yes you ALWAYS replace ALL mounts when you do a mount job. If not the old mount will cause the newer ones to wear alot faster then you need new mounts again within a year or so depending on your driving.

[importnut]

i highly suggest that you save money and modify your stick mounts instead of getting the nismo ones. I actually have the nismo mounts. It was only after i had bought and installed them that I learned of filling them with urethane. I filled the mounts on my brother's car and his engine moves less than mine.


tube of window weld urethane is 12 dollars. Nismo ones are 175 or so.

3M Windo-Weld fast-curing urethane goo (part # 051135-08609) Look up an automotive paint supply store in your area and they will have this in stock. (there should be one local.) good luck man

I picked up my Nismo mounts to give them a shot. My 210k mounts were just horrible. They are more civilized than urethane mounts, but not enough in my opion. I have ES bushing in my civic's engine mounts, and the damn thing does NOT move. I will probably fill my Nismo mounts when I get the chance. The engine still moves too much.

So, you can save quite a bit of money and fill right off the bat, or if you've picked up Nismo mounts, you can fill those. They will probably be a little stiffer than starting with stock mounts.

People who can't handle a little vibration are => :fruit:

Also, I've contemplated welded motor mounts. It's awesome to see someone that actually did it. Totally awesome!

Here's my motor mount swap page, hope it's handy for anyone interested: Nismo Motormount Install (http://importnut.net/nismomm.htm)

-Alex S.

[24Zero]

the NISMO mounts gives you more NHV but work well

[blk240sx]

just currious how it is that you go about to fill your stock engine mounts with urethane??

[aznpoopy]

1. pull them out
2. fully clean them
3. cake them over with 3m window weld. fill in the grooves. ive heard of people using other stuff on other forums. the more you use, the stiffer they'll be. so figure out how far you want to go.
4. "officially" it takes a week to cure. i think most let them dry a day or two and then put them back in.

[S14DB]

Heh, you guys think those will make your steering wheel shake? Here are my motor mounts:

http://www.riotdesigns.com/240sx/splinstall/images/DSCF0041.jpg

For the record, the car is only driven once or twice a week. The only annoying part is at idle...just lots of vibration. Other than that, while cruising it's not a problem.

-ryan
Damn, I thought I was hardcore. But, mines a DD... :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/240sx/EngineMount1.jpg

[Mike Wazowski]

Cusco/Kazama mount, nice to see someone as hardcore as I am.

[importnut]

Cusco/Kazama mount, nice to see someone as hardcore as I am.

Could you provide more info on these mounts? Available for KA's?

Thanks,
Alex S.

[420sx]

1. pull them out
2. fully clean them
3. cake them over with 3m window weld. fill in the grooves. ive heard of people using other stuff on other forums. the more you use, the stiffer they'll be. so figure out how far you want to go.
4. "officially" it takes a week to cure. i think most let them dry a day or two and then put them back in.

wrong. takes 2 days so solidify completely. dont have to clean, that shit sticks like nothing i ever seen. DO wear gloves, otherwise its gets stuck to skin. ANY polyurethane will work. we used cheapest we could find in home depot. was like 5-6 bux for 2 tubes, plus 2 dollar gun that broke twice.

[lilredstiffy]

Could you provide more info on these mounts? Available for KA's?

Thanks,
Alex S.

Yes they work perfectly fine on ka's.
I think phase2 and ma-motorsports both sell them

[aznpoopy]

wrong. takes 2 days so solidify completely. dont have to clean, that shit sticks like nothing i ever seen. DO wear gloves, otherwise its gets stuck to skin. ANY polyurethane will work. we used cheapest we could find in home depot. was like 5-6 bux for 2 tubes, plus 2 dollar gun that broke twice.

cleaning them is just being nice and neat with your projects... but yes it's not really necessary.

i stand corrected on the curing time though.

[S14DB]

I got mine from Rare Trick (http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=1911&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=6774)

[importnut]

Yes they work perfectly fine on ka's.
I think phase2 and ma-motorsports both sell them

Really? I was under the impression that there were slight differences in the mounts, preventing the use of SR mounts on a KA and visa versa. Of course, I read this on the net, and we all know how reliable that is!!

Thanks,
Alex S.

[Buffalo Daughter]

so i read the write up on the motor mounts, so it doesnt really consist of using a engine hoist? The guy just used a jack to push the engine up and then unbolt the mounts? Kind of seems harder than that but how do you guys do it? And wheres the cheapest place to get some nismo mounts? I have peeped out pdm, superior nissan and phase2.

[kandyflip445]

Make sure you put a block of wood under the pan so you don't dent it.

[S14DB]

It's better to jack on the bellhousing not the oil pan.

[lilredstiffy]

Stay away from the oil pan altogether, you'll have plenty of room using the bellhousing.
Very easy job as long as the old nuts aren't seized/stripped.
If someone said they don't work on a ka they are completely wrong, my car is sitting right outside with these badass mounts. No problems.

[Buffalo Daughter]

Stay away from the oil pan altogether, you'll have plenty of room using the bellhousing.
Very easy job as long as the old nuts aren't seized/stripped.
If someone said they don't work on a ka they are completely wrong, my car is sitting right outside with these badass mounts. No problems.

what mounts are you talking about?? Ahh duely noted about the wood and using the bellhousing instead. The bellhousing sounds more safer.

How long do you guys think this install should take or how long did it take you guys?

[Maeda]

wrong. takes 2 days so solidify completely. dont have to clean, that shit sticks like nothing i ever seen. DO wear gloves, otherwise its gets stuck to skin. ANY polyurethane will work. we used cheapest we could find in home depot. was like 5-6 bux for 2 tubes, plus 2 dollar gun that broke twice.

ANY TUBE?
I got some PL Window Sealer that says its polyurethane...

was 3 bucks for the tube.

You guys get this stuff?

If so im gonna go do it NOW

[aznpoopy]

How long do you guys think this install should take or how long did it take you guys?

it took me like 3 weeks because i couldn't break off the stupid bolts on the underside of the motor mounts and i got pissed and lazy.

but if you have proper tools and a really big breaker bar, i would say it should take like an hour tops, and that's if you're taking your time.

[importnut]

so i read the write up on the motor mounts, so it doesnt really consist of using a engine hoist? The guy just used a jack to push the engine up and then unbolt the mounts? Kind of seems harder than that but how do you guys do it? And wheres the cheapest place to get some nismo mounts? I have peeped out pdm, superior nissan and phase2.

In my write-up, I used blocks of wood to "turn" the engine in the engine bay by pushing up on the alternator bracket on one side, and the air conditioner on the other side. As everyone else is saying, don't push on the oil pan. You're begging for a leak.

The other "big" reason for not pushing on the oil pan, is that you can't get the engine high enough to clear the mounts. I suppose you could get it high enough if you unbolt the tranny cross member along with the mounts, but you'd need something to support that while you do the engine mounts.

The ultimate would be to use an engine hoist, but I wanted to find a way to do it that would be easy enough for anyone with a floor jack to do the project.

-Alex S.

[importnut]

How long do you guys think this install should take or how long did it take you guys?

With taking pictures, I think it took me less than an hour to do all three mounts. If you are just doing motor mounts, there are only about 6 nuts that you have to remove. The trick is getting the engine up high enough to get the mounts out. I've already pointed out the trick in another post.

lilredstiffy, Thanks for the info on the SR/KA mount issue. It's good to know, and now I'm lusting after those monster mounts :naughty:

First things first though, I need to replace my 210k original exhaust...then the mounts!

-Alex S.

[Buffalo Daughter]

i did both bout half hour each on lift at work. I also had a transmission jack stand that was hella tall that lifted the motor on the bell housing and used my impact gun for the bottom bolts on the motor mounts and my air ratchet for the rest with some extensions and impact swivels. pretty easy. Dirty but easy.

[Neejay]

i did both bout half hour each on lift at work. I also had a transmission jack stand that was hella tall that lifted the motor on the bell housing and used my impact gun for the bottom bolts on the motor mounts and my air ratchet for the rest with some extensions and impact swivels. pretty easy. Dirty but easy.
Man...this was a year ago...

[axiomatik]

I guess it took him a little bit longer to install than others....

[s13pignose]

They work great. I installed the nismo engine and tranny mounts, now my steering wheel vibrates ever so slightly at idle, but that's it. Nismo mounts are harder rubber, while eurothane is much stiffer. Nismos are a good compromise between stock mounts and eurothane.

My shifter also moves MUCH LESS now. Good luck.

Billy


Ah crap mine does that now, and I was thinking of getting nismo mounts. With those the wheel probably will fall off lol. Does yours make a sound?

[Neejay]

Ah crap mine does that now, and I was thinking of getting nismo mounts. With those the wheel probably will fall off lol. Does yours make a sound?
Awwww shit man, AGAIN, ITS FROM 1 YEAR AGO.

[s13pignose]

Damn my bad don't know how it happened, I had up a search and was also looking at current posts. Just ignore, didn't mean to blow dust off an old thread.

[Neejay]

No problem :) No offense to you :)

[s13pignose]

NAh I totally understand what its like to be suscribed to a thread...forget about it for a while, and then all of a sudden you get an email notification that a new post has been made.

No offense taken.

[Phlip]

No worries, I will lock her off now