Help me clean up my engine bay.

[Maeda]

Ok so I was SICK of the response and power band on my KA...
and I needed a radiator...
so this is the result!

I obviously need to get an altima fan and make the upper radiator hose much nicer, but beyond that..... :wtf: i dunno.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/CIMG2477.jpg
Its ugly and nasty but its working... I need some ideas on how to unugly this mess...

[MakotoS13]

two radiators?!

buguh?

[RBS14]

Oh I get it.

You just pushed the radiator back and put the IC where the radiator used to be. You are right tho, it does look like ass. ahaha

I know how to make it look better....
































TAKE OFF THAT DAMN TURBO YOU PUSSY!!!

hahahahahaha

Now for the part where I give you some useful imput. First of all, get a ka radiator, not a SR one. Get e-fans. Shorten up that IC piping some more. oh yea, and read above once more.

[mrmephistopheles]

i know... you could install an SR. That would clear up that radiator hose problem quickfast!

[Maeda]

No more NA comments. NA is for losers. Scott you're therefor a loser.
KA radiator won't fit with the throttles position and the pipes~ too.

No more SR comments. SR's are also for losers. Kevin you're therefor a losers as well.

The i/c is up there so I could make the pipes super duper short, saving weight, hide the fmic from ricers/cops, and gain much needed response from my car

[nightwalker]

pay someone

[Beau]

How much more responsive is it?

For tidying up the engine bay, you could try hiding all of the wires and fuse boxes in the fenders. It's a lot of work but the results are amazing.

[Twinkie]

just get your water hose and spray your engine bay...that'll clear some dirty up for a start...and if them oil stains wont come off pour some alcohol on it and scrub ;) tah-dah! :bigok:

[blu808]

throw that damn intercooler setup away, put the radiator where it should be, and build a real ic setup.

[Dousan_PG]

its SO MUCh more responsive (i hung out at johns when he finishedi t all up)
so much more, needs a retune

hmm i say that rad hose is the kill but i know with efans it will be redone

CANNOT get a KA rad because w/ the FMIC piping whre its at with the size of his FMIC cant use a KA radiator!!!

so he'dhave to go out and get a new FMIC with different end tank and then get nwe piping..so its a small meh to have it odd like that

1jz goes across wont hurt the car...not at all. just get a nicer hose and some better water temp peice you l oser


ClEaN iT uP, wE gOt ThAt HIN ShoW iN a fEw wEEks DoOd!


and scotts jealous because otu of all of us (minus poser noah) his car will be slowest and waekest and least reliable

hahahahaha

[Dousan_PG]

throw that damn intercooler setup away, put the radiator where it should be, and build a real ic setup.


as opossed to a fake one?

[RBS14]

hahahah riiight. Mine's gonna be the least reliable? sure guy. Turbos blow up engines, not ITB's, son.

But I'll have more response than you and John combined. So suck on that. haha

[mellojoe]

split loom and some free time.

It sucks, but if you take the time to put all your wires in some nice quality split-loom, that really helps. you may have to extend some wires to make a single bundle of some, and you may wish to re-route some. But, that will help.

Also, fix that ugly radiator hose. That thing is teh suck.

Get an eletrical fan or a pair of electrical fans. If you want a "clean" look, you can mount them in front of the radiator blowing INTO the engine bay (instead of the normal behind the radiator SUCKING THROUGH).

PS: nice turbo setup. Do you have a list of mods? Also, have you dyno'd it yet and if so, what are your numbers?

[TokyoNights]

Get an eletrical fan or a pair of electrical fans. If you want a "clean" look, you can mount them in front of the radiator blowing INTO the engine bay (instead of the normal behind the radiator SUCKING THROUGH).


how the hell is he gonna do that when the ic is in front.

[AKADriver]

That IC setup is what all the scandinavian 200SX people use. His KA is infused with SWEDE SPEED now.

Why did you buy a radiator with the outlet on the wrong side? Just curious.

Other than that, if you want to clean up the engine bay, you need to... clean! All the aluminum parts are grungy. Do something about the rusty battery tray. Shine up the plastic and painted parts.

[blu808]

as opossed to a fake one?

Yes as opossed to a fake one.

[Brian]

wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha-hahahahaha

[Maeda]

That IC setup is what all the scandinavian 200SX people use. His KA is infused with SWEDE SPEED now.

Why did you buy a radiator with the outlet on the wrong side? Just curious.

Other than that, if you want to clean up the engine bay, you need to... clean! All the aluminum parts are grungy. Do something about the rusty battery tray. Shine up the plastic and painted parts.

I cleaned the damn thing like 2 weeks ago, but the car lives outside with a lot of dirty tree cover so it gets filthy really quick. I'm just really concerned with all my hose/pipe/wire routing for now until it gets a home of its own.

I got the radiator because the seller listed it as a KA radiator but found it was SR about the same time I found out I needed an SR radiator anyway.
Oh, and it was cheap.

The mod list is too long to list, and last time at the dyno it made [email protected], and now its at 6 so I have no idea but its probably near 270 because the turbo is no where near its efficiency peak yet.

What's a real i/c setup entail? My intercoolers plenty real.... and now its got swede speed!

[Ian]

yeah, electric fan and new rad hose and it's fine...very cool setup!

[Jeff240sx]

Go hardcore v-mount.. and get a KA radiator for it.
-Jeff

[2JZGTE]

Like some others said, it'll look badass after a new radiator hose or KA radiator. Get some electric fans too if you're willing to spend the $$. They are real nice.

Oh yea...you said you cleaned it already, were you using degreaser? That stuff works way too good for engines :)

This is the flex-a-lite 220 fan mounted on SR koyo. You can see how it covers the whole surface area of radiator, and has a nice rubber seal around the whole fan that seals everything.

http://elit3.com/upload/Silvia9.JPG

billy

[SlideStar]

Re-route or hide stuff like vacume lines, and amputate that getto rad hose.
A steel braided line kit would look good too! There are a bunch of little things you can hide to make it look less cluttered.

[ka24det-power]

IMO - I would use smaller intercooler piping and route it the normal way. The reason the response is better because there is less air volume to fill in shorter piping. You can achieve a similar effect with 2 or 2.25" piping. I know it seems small - just consider that the GReddy and HKS piping kits for the SR and the eclipse are 2 to 2.25" pipes. I would think if you NEED large piping that HKS would have figured that out already. You can buy flat black intercoolers or you could also have yours painted or coated with a flat black thermal coating.

KA24DET :rawk:

[Salty_X]

The mod list is too long to list
Is that because of the 4 radiator hoses? :D
Badass hood prop too...

A KA radiator would work wonders.

[Dousan_PG]

Is that because of the 4 radiator hoses? :D
Badass hood prop too...

A KA radiator would work wonders.

ka radiator would work wonders LOOK wise right?
because both cool air and do the same thing last time i checked..

[Salty_X]

ka radiator would work wonders LOOK wise right?
because both cool air and do the same thing last time i checked..
What was the point of this thread again?


I need some ideas on how to unugly this mess...

Oh yeah.

I'm just giving some aesthetic advice...
No need to take what I said as an attack, just a little ballbusting encouragement. :D

[nistech]

tire gel on the plastc areas works really good

[nistech]

also a degreaser spray. and u could go to one of those self car wash places and use the water that doesnt leave stain.

[SR240DET]

so...!? Maeda did you clean it up or what? show us some pics....

[old_s13]

That has to be one absolutely hiddeous engine bay. If its a daily driver, then I understand. BUT IF ITS NOT, you need to be shot for setting your car up like that. You need to spend some time organizing the components in your engine bay before you install them.

I would make some suggestions but it would involve a lot of work and money. Start off by getting a proper IC and radiator setup. Dont use shitty junk yard fans, pickup some new ones that will suck some decent CFM. Get a radiator that is heavy duty and also has the proper outlets, you can get something custom made.. thats my best suggestion for that. The IC is your call, dont know if you want to go through with remounting and repiping.. but I would. It just looks horrible man, horrible. I dont even know why you would keep power steering and air conditioning when you see how crammed things are. Do you work on your own car? If so, it would drive me mad and I would take a hammer to the car just to make more room.

Sorry, but if its one thing I cant stand is crammed engine bays.. especially when they are a mess like this. Nothing against you, but I just want to see things tidy'ed up a bit. It looks like absolute hell in there.

[Maeda]

Holy THREAD REVIVAL!
Since the beginning of this thread, I bought some altima fans(I have no money), and redid my radiator hose ghetto spl style...
Here's the before pic...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSCBAY.jpg

It was a good fix for the last 3 or so months of school I had to go before a long break... and now its the long break sooooooo....

The project to clean my fucking heinous engine bay has BEGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a few weeks off from school/work/life, and i'm redoing everything! Here's the pics.

I pulled the motor, and started stripping the intake mani...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/intakemanibefore.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/intakemanidstrip.jpg
In progress! Since this pic was taken, i've reassembled what I needed and ditched all the vac lines and emissions crud...
Like the Jammies?

I also degreased everything, primered it, and started painting it...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/passtower.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/drivertower.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/enginebay.jpg

Tomarrow i'm doing the exhaust mani...
Gotta strip the rust from the turbo, manifold, and downpipe and then repaint it all...
Clean the block and paint that too....
Fill the motormounts with something good from home depot...

Later
New clutch hardline...
Relocating the wiring harnesses and fusebox as well as slimming them down...
I'm getting real intercooler pipes made as well!

HOW THE HELL DO I REMOVE THE @[email protected]#%[email protected] BATTERY TRAY!?????

[drift freaq]

looking good John, I like so far, you sure you don't want some of the urethane mounts we are manufacturing :D shameless plug
dave

[Dousan_PG]

yoi ll probably crash at your place tomorrow
we can work on my gauge cluster setup, i got my other defi gauges i think yo'll like it.
and probably need you to make me some stuff at school

looks good, i mlooking forward to seeing it!! noice!

and yeah polye those motormounts. mine are rock fucking solid.
i love it
dontforget tranny too.

[Maeda]

yoi ll probably crash at your place tomorrow
we can work on my gauge cluster setup, i got my other defi gauges i think yo'll like it.
and probably need you to make me some stuff at school

looks good, i mlooking forward to seeing it!! noice!

and yeah polye those motormounts. mine are rock fucking solid.
i love it
dontforget tranny too.

Like what at school??? The cover piece? Should be doable at home with the dremel.... At school we'd have to make a mould and bullshit...

[sideview_180sx]

and how long ago was this. damn john. time does pass alot when you do updates of your car. something you might find worthwhile john. http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3150 Im picking up another KA motorset so I can do this in the sparetime at home.

[Dousan_PG]

ah no worries then
we'll drill and dremel then
ill bring up the goods
and we need pizza, and gin and beers
im off thursday (work sat)

heh..up to GW probably tomorrow, exhaust making and pick up car hopefully...

[Maeda]

ah no worries then
we'll drill and dremel then
ill bring up the goods
and we need pizza, and gin and beers
im off thursday (work sat)

heh..up to GW probably tomorrow, exhaust making and pick up car hopefully...

Woot.
Tell the boys at GW to stop making fun of my engine cleaning endeavor.

[Inland180]

looking better.. already!! hehe

[Maeda]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/intakemanidafter.jpg

The intake manifold all assembled.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/intakemanicrap.jpg

This is all the crap that comes off the intake manifold.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/turbobefore.jpg

The dirty turbo. Keep in mind this is after a light polish on the compressor side, and stripping the rust. It was much worse then this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/turboafter.jpg

More derusting, plus some really high temp paint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/engineafter.jpg

Cleaned valve cover, and turbo together atlast.

Tomarrow... Motormounts.

[Marty]

Looks like it's coming along quite nicely right now, can't wait to see the results

[Maeda]

working on cleaning up and redoing the motor harness right now
drinking and working on cars..the only way to do a job.

this is aaron (dousan_pg) with the updated...

[Flybert]

I think the battery tray has spot welds that you can drill out. I'd have to double check though. BTW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR SCHOOL BREAK!!! I've been going to school and working 12 hour shifts from 3AM to 3PM.

[neverdone]

Its coming along nicely, whats is all that stuff you removed from the intake manifold?

[Flybert]

Its coming along nicely, whats is all that stuff you removed from the intake manifold?

He pulled off the EGR crap.

[Maeda]

I think the battery tray has spot welds that you can drill out. I'd have to double check though. BTW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR SCHOOL BREAK!!! I've been going to school and working 12 hour shifts from 3AM to 3PM.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hey just remember all the time I have to put into school when I'm not on break felt just as bad.

You need a beer Flybert. Come over and have one if you find the time.

I didn't just take out EGR, theres a lot more extra sensors and vacuum lines you don't need in the intake mani. I took out about 4-5 Vacuum lines that run other emissions junk and I removed 2-3 sensors that are related to EGR and airconditioning(?).

[Maeda]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/enginedone.jpg

This is the enginebay more or less finished and assembled...
Notice I finally got that battery tray out and lowered the fuse box.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/brakemasterdone.jpg

I went in and did a few select touch ups like shielding the brakemaster from the manifold heat and...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/psdone.jpg

Changing all my hose clamps to nicer ones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/waterpump.jpg

I tried to change my waterpump but, when I popped it off it looked brand new so I stuck it back on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/harness.jpg

This is the enigine harness after some conservative cleaning (I'm notoriously bad at wiring so I had dousan supervise so I don't just start cutting things randomly).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/mount.jpg

Since the motor's out I decided to fill my mounts with peanutbutter. I heard it works better then Polyurethane. =)

I'm only filling the torqueing side of the motor for now because I don't want the shakes.

Thats all folks! The intake manifold gasket set is comming tuesday and the motor's going back in very carefully. I'm currently reqiring the interior....

[kandyflip445]

Wouldn't doing just one motor mount just put more stress on the engine/car cause the other side isn't really damping anything. The motor can't move anymore than the filled mount will let it. ???

[Marty]

Any updates?

[Maeda]

Any updates?
I'm putting it back together as we speak.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00569.jpg
Heat wrapped and aluminum taped PS reservior (also did the brake fluid one too)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00568.jpg
Stripped down(IE NONE) vac lines on the throttle side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00567.jpg
The only vac lines i'm using. Brake booster, FPR, Boost Gauge (anything else anyone can think of?)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00561.jpg
Wrapped up and protected distributor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00565.jpg
EGR block off plate, and other misc removed things on the intake mani with revised fuel/vac routing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00566.jpg
The money shot. My cleaned dual feed setup. The t-fitting is mounted low on the intake mani so it'll look like this in the car... anyone want to donate some stainless lines for this? ^_^

Motor's going into the car tomarrow!
I changed almost every freakin hose clamp for the worm type(I hate the kind you need pliers for) as well as all the lines.

New poly steering rack bushings, hardline clips and crap comming in a few days! I'm almost done!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek3:

[240KAT]

peanut butter motor mounts...are you serious?
IBantsandcircuismidgets

[Maeda]

It's actually polyurethane.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/DSC00571.jpg

Almost done.

I picked up a nismo thermostat as well.

[Flybert]

Hey john, it would probably would have been easier to put the steering rack bushings in before you dropped in the motor. If you got the Z32 ones, they are kind of a bitch to get in there with the motor in.

[Maeda]

Hey john, it would probably would have been easier to put the steering rack bushings in before you dropped in the motor. If you got the Z32 ones, they are kind of a bitch to get in there with the motor in.

I know. -_-

It's ok. You can come over and show me how to do it. :D

[kandyflip445]

Just wondering, what kind of lines you used for your remote oil filter setup?

[Maeda]

The lines that came with the kit. It's some chikara kit I got for a few coconuts and a pineapple on the island of hawaii.

[kandyflip445]

Really. Seems like they would have enough coconuts and pineapples in Hawaii. I guess you screwed them on that one, huh? :Owned:

Now if you could find an eskimo that does body work....

[RBS14]

Now if you could find an eskimo that does body work....

you found him! hahaha

[kandyflip445]

I'll give you an ice box to paint my car...

[RBS14]

Ice box?

Give me a whale and I'll consider...

[Maeda]

Ok so I knew this was going to happen.

The cars back together and it don't start... anyone following this have any ideas?

It just cranks and cranks and cranks.....
Must be spark or fuel right?

I tried grounding one of the plug wires and I didn't see anything..
It's not a fuse.

I'm stumped.... :bite:

EDIT: NEVERMIND! Scooter got my nose in my fsm and I fixed it.

Cheers for scooter (RBS14)!!!

[koz]

i'm curious as to what the problem was.

[Ian]

do you think you could take a couple pics of your IC mounting and the venting going to it?

i wanna copy you in the next couple of weeks...i'm all set, apparently someone had given me altima fans that are in fairly good condition, so i'm gonna use those

[Maeda]

do you think you could take a couple pics of your IC mounting and the venting going to it?

i wanna copy you in the next couple of weeks...i'm all set, apparently someone had given me altima fans that are in fairly good condition, so i'm gonna use those

The mounting and the venting is not done yet sadly. There was not time for it this past week so I've been sorting and wiring the interior...

I'm going on a trip and will be back to work on this project in june.
I'll show you the pics then.

[2JZGTE]

Progress is great...looks badass maeda. I'm jealous of your ultra short IC piping.

[RBS14]

yeah, I pretty much rock.




































hahahah I wish.

[Maeda]

ALMOST DONE.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Maeda/newbay1.jpg

Fuel leaks
Oil leaks
Coolant leaks
OH MY....

My car basically self destructed the day after I came back from my trip...

After some tidying and a new i/c it looked like this...

STILL a couple more things to do.... :bash:

[sideview_180sx]

is that a returnless fuel line setup, wear is the return line, all I see is a fuel line going into both sides. oil and coolant leaks you're on your own for that, just have a mop to clean it all up when you leave haha

[Maeda]

is that a returnless fuel line setup, wear is the return line, all I see is a fuel line going into both sides.

Theres a secret return line in the intake mani. =D
Leaks are all fixed...

[sideview_180sx]

can't wait to peer into that dirty bay at the nissan meet

[TheSnail]

When I do a swap for someone or if I’m making a car to sell on Ebay, I spend the $10 for 4 cans of Engine gunk remover then one Orange Citrus gunk remover for an nice sent, then 4hours pressure washing everything. It looks nice, plus it makes a big diff on how much you get on ebay, aswell as a nice gesture I do for my customers that request a swap. Got to be professional. 5hours of your time makes a big difference.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/thesnail/DSCN4251.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/thesnail/dscn4447.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/thesnail/dscn4511.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/thesnail/DSCN4349.jpg

[95Blue240sx]

The fuel return is in the center where the FPR is.

BTW nice work snail.

just saw this pic in the speed dreamz thread. You can see the difference in extra time spent cleaning between snail's work and this LOL.

http://www.speeddreamz.net/modules/gallery/albums/album55/DSC00780.sized.jpg

[TheSnail]

The fuel return is in the center where the FPR is.

BTW nice work snail.

just saw this pic in the speed dreamz thread. You can see the difference in extra time spent cleaning between snail's work and this LOL.

http://www.speeddreamz.net/modules/gallery/albums/album55/DSC00780.sized.jpg


LOL, Thanks, Yeah I saw their swap :goyou: . I was going to say something, or atleast give them some tips until I saw they were a sponser. I kept my mouth shut. Now I see most people clowned them for it. I would say something but I think they learned their lesson, and not ever post something so hideous again. :)

[mrmephistopheles]

seriously John. Get a KA Koyo.

[Maeda]

seriously John. Get a KA Koyo.

Seriously Kevin.
No.

I might consider it now that it MIGHT actually fit.... but probably..


No.