SR vs. 3rd Gen RX7 TT

[KiDyNomiTe]

I was wonderign who would win in a race between and S13 with an SR20 (red top) vs 3rd Gen RX7 Twin Turbo with Exhaust

[junia]

Hands down the FD would take the S13 if all they had was an exhaust upgrade.  The FD is lighter than the S13 and have more power

[KiDyNomiTe]

wat do RX7s run in the 1/4 mile and wat do SR powered 240s run in the 1/4 mile

[J300z28]

the FD's have 255 factory HP, 1/4th should be in the mid 13's.

What's the "stock" hp of the SR?

[KiDyNomiTe]

205hp

[XylathaneGTR]

Yeah, the rx7 would rape the sr20...
its a way more powerful car.
i think an sr20 s13 would run about mid 14s stock...but thats a guess.

You can't compare the S13 and the FD stock..  The RX-7 outclasses the Silvia in every aspect.  Actually, the black-top S15 SR might be able to take the RX-7, but I'm not too sure..  Definitely with bpu..

[Tuck&Poke]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (XylathaneGTR @ Mar. 15 2002,9:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, the rx7 would rape the sr20...
its a way more powerful car.
i think an sr20 s13 would run about mid 14s stock...but thats a guess.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i wouldnt go as far as rape. &nbsp;well an sr runs about 15.2 (im basing this in an sr s14 stock running a 14.9) and an rx-7 runs about 14.5-14.7 so yeh an rx-7 would win

[crazycuban]

Where the hell do you get those numbers from? Wherever it was, those people can't drive.

An RX-7 runs 13.9 stock, and with an exhaust should be in the mid-13's. Really, it matters what's done to the 240. An SR powered 240 could easily take a 3rd gen if it had the right modifications - I could take a 3rd gen now, with an SR, exhaust, downpipe, FMIC and boost controller.

BTW, the Silvia runs mid 14's stock (S13), low 14's for the S14, and high 13's for the S15.

[junia]

Yeah, but he means when both the FD and the S13 are both running only exhaust setups. &nbsp;The FD is going to beat the S13. &nbsp;And I think with some mods the S13 with the stock turbo probably won't go above 300Hp. &nbsp;I think by then you're pushing the limit of the turbo. &nbsp;On a FD however the most HP I've seen with the stock turbo is 383HP to the rear wheels. &nbsp;If you're talking about high horsepower output though I don't think you want to go two much higher than 500HP on the 13b engine, but the SR20 has been known to have been built up to run around 600HP. &nbsp;I like the S13 better because I think its more comfortable to drive in.

[Tuck&Poke]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (crazycuban @ Mar. 15 2002,10:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Where the hell do you get those numbers from? Wherever it was, those people can't drive.

An RX-7 runs 13.9 stock, and with an exhaust should be in the mid-13's. Really, it matters what's done to the 240. An SR powered 240 could easily take a 3rd gen if it had the right modifications - I could take a 3rd gen now, with an SR, exhaust, downpipe, FMIC and boost controller.

BTW, the Silvia runs mid 14's stock (S13), low 14's for the S14, and high 13's for the S15.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
what are you talking about s14's run a 14.8 at the most stock. &nbsp;it was on that vid with an s14 vs a type r and the type r did a 14.8 and the s14 did a 14.9. im not sure about the rx-7 but i bet its low 14's maybe high 13's

[AceInHole]

lol... it'll all come down to how old, how many miles, and how much maintenance is in the RX-7... &nbsp; &nbsp;if turbo rotaries were reliable they wouldn't have given up on them (well.. there IS the upcomming RX-8... but it's not going to be turbo).

[DrDubbleB]

The Rex would win hands down. &nbsp;You can get gobs of power from them, but the problem is reliability, whether it's stock or not. &nbsp;I still plan on getting one later though.

[blink0r]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 15 2002,11:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol... it'll all come down to how old, how many miles, and how much maintenance is in the RX-7... if turbo rotaries were reliable they wouldn't have given up on them (well.. there IS the upcomming RX-8... but it's not going to be turbo).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You're wrong, mazda has developed a turbo version of the rx-8.... the turbo rotary will be pushing 325+ rwhp, while the N/A rotary will be pushing 225+ rwhp. Production of the turbo rx-8 has not been confirmed, although it would be great to see it.

[Tuck&Poke]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blink0r @ Mar. 16 2002,01:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 15 2002,11:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol... it'll all come down to how old, how many miles, and how much maintenance is in the RX-7... if turbo rotaries were reliable they wouldn't have given up on them (well.. there IS the upcomming RX-8... but it's not going to be turbo).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You're wrong, mazda has developed a turbo version of the rx-8.... the turbo rotary will be pushing 325+ rwhp, while the N/A rotary will be pushing 225+ rwhp. Production of the turbo rx-8 has not been confirmed, although it would be great to see it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the n/a is producing 250hp and as of yet i havent heard about the turbo or its chances of production

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (minime686 @ Mar. 15 2002,12:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the n/a is producing 250hp and as of yet i havent heard about the turbo or its chances of production</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that's the same thing I heard.... &nbsp;the rotary itself isn't exactly the most reliable thing in the world... add in the wear caused by turbocharging and you're not making it any more reliable. &nbsp;these days it all seems to come down to how long something will last

[adey]

3rd Generation RX7s are soooo beautiful... not to mention fast. Stock for stock (or equivelant mod to equivelant mod) the RX7 would win.

Silvias can be made to look good in a mean way, but will never be able to rival the RX7 in that exclusively mazda rotary beauty... it's... regal... majestic... refined...
*swwooooooon*

[Tuck&Poke]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 16 2002,11:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (minime686 @ Mar. 15 2002,12:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the n/a is producing 250hp and as of yet i havent heard about the turbo or its chances of production</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that's the same thing I heard.... the rotary itself isn't exactly the most reliable thing in the world... add in the wear caused by turbocharging and you're not making it any more reliable. these days it all seems to come down to how long something will last</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
very true reliability is a big issue in cars these days but i think now people are starting to go for high power over reliabitly. mostly its cause of the import trend. middle aged men who feel old and want to be "young" again and have money go buy the high hp cars that are coming out that most youngins cant afford. this is why theyre bringing all the faster versions of the cars over. i wouldnt doubt a tt rx-8 coming over even though its gonna have reliability issues. i know that the new na rotary is not going to have none if any reliability issues. i hope theyre right

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (minime686 @ Mar. 15 2002,1:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 16 2002,11:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (minime686 @ Mar. 15 2002,12:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the n/a is producing 250hp and as of yet i havent heard about the turbo or its chances of production</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that's the same thing I heard.... the rotary itself isn't exactly the most reliable thing in the world... add in the wear caused by turbocharging and you're not making it any more reliable. these days it all seems to come down to how long something will last</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
very true reliability is a big issue in cars these days but i think now people are starting to go for high power over reliabitly. mostly its cause of the import trend. middle aged men who feel old and want to be "young" again and have money go buy the high hp cars that are coming out that most youngins cant afford. this is why theyre bringing all the faster versions of the cars over. i wouldnt doubt a tt rx-7 coming over even though its gonna have reliability issues. i know that the new na rotary is not going to have none if any reliability issues. i hope theyre right</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol... all the old people dust me (us) in their brand new z06's... I wouldn't say those are unreliable though.... and their grandkids are damn lucky (well, their favorite one probably will be. lol)

[gsrcamel]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blink0r @ Mar. 16 2002,01:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 15 2002,11:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol... it'll all come down to how old, how many miles, and how much maintenance is in the RX-7... if turbo rotaries were reliable they wouldn't have given up on them (well.. there IS the upcomming RX-8... but it's not going to be turbo).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You're wrong, mazda has developed a turbo version of the rx-8.... the turbo rotary will be pushing 325+ rwhp, while the N/A rotary will be pushing 225+ rwhp. Production of the turbo rx-8 has not been confirmed, although it would be great to see it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I got to wave the BS flag on that one unless you can show us some pics!

[Ni5mo180SX]

Rotaries are in theory more reliable then piston powered motors. A lot less moving parts (3 main parts in the rotary) compared to +40 on a piston engine. The rotary spins, rather then violently changing direction up and down like a piston engine. The FD is heavier then an S13 but only by a little bit.