View Full Version : Titan in a 240? Is it true?
The_Poet
11-20-2004, 11:51 PM
Ok I just need to get something straight that I had told to me. Someone told me that the new Titan V8 motor that is in the Titan pick-up has a sister transmission to the transmission in the 350Z. Then they explained to me that the manual transmission from the Z33 could be bolted onto the Titan motor, there by making it FR and with a custom drive shaft / mounts, and one serious rewire could be places into a 240.
I do not seriously plan on doing this, I am just curious of whether it is possible/true. I do not like to be misinformed.
If someone did do this swap it would some serious investments. But it would be unreal to have a complete in company V8 240 without using a domestic V8. The first all Japanese muscle car haha.
Yardape
11-21-2004, 12:37 AM
the guy that filled my PS resevoir with power steering fluid at the quick lube and who said that my Infiniti M30 was a "jdm silvia varietta" told me that the titan motor makes 400 ft lbs and bolts into any rwd nissan.
nightwalker
11-21-2004, 12:51 AM
could be very possible. The Titan is already FR. The Japanese already have a Titan equipped 240z, so I'm sure a 240sx is not that hard.
Fastback180
11-21-2004, 08:37 AM
the guy that filled my PS resevoir with power steering fluid at the quick lube and who said that my Infiniti M30 was a "jdm silvia varietta" told me that the titan motor makes 400 ft lbs and bolts into any rwd nissan.
he's right folks.
listen here.
and it's got a "Tornado" supercharger in the air box.
nismo2491
11-21-2004, 11:34 AM
basically with the right amount of money, and the right amount of skill, any motor can go into just about any car.
KEvin
drift freaq
11-21-2004, 11:46 AM
hahahahaha, a V8 in a 240 is not a problem, a Titan engine in a 240 is!! due to the amount of stuff on it and the fact that its not a small block V8 its a big block. I Seriously doubt it would be even possible and my buddies at Nissan have made jokes about the subject which leads me to believe its not possible cause if it was they would already be talking about doing it not making jokes about doing it.
nismo2491
11-21-2004, 11:53 AM
I really hope its not comparable to the big-three big blocks, its only a 5.6L which is smaller than a 350 chevy motor. also big block and small block aren't industry standards or anything, to have one you must have the other and AFAIK nissan doesn't have 2 different v-8 motor blocks.
KEvin
s13dan
11-21-2004, 01:05 PM
isnt the titan a 5.6 liter.. and nissan/ford are joined so its probably 351 or close... which is a small block, i could be wrong this is just me putting 2 and 2 together..
projectRDM
11-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Since when is Nissan and Ford joined? Nissan is owned by Renault. Ford has nothing to do with them, save the joint venture on the Quest/Villager which was put to bed last year.
nismo2491
11-21-2004, 02:29 PM
351 is a 5.8L. I doubt seriously that this motor has any ford research into it (I worked a Part Time job with a ford dealer up until a few months ago). 5.6L is closer to like 340ci or so. I still say its probably size-wise about the size of a ford or chevy small block. I seriously doubt that its the size of a big block, there is no reason for it to be that big.
KEvin
drift freaq
11-21-2004, 02:42 PM
my bad on the big block comment it just looks that way under the hood of Titan. go to the dealership and check it out that thing is monstrous regardless of its displacement. It may be a small block size displacement wise but its not like a small block in external size constraints compared to other small blocks . Then of course the Ford 4.6 DOHC engine does not look small externally either.
nismo2491
11-21-2004, 03:07 PM
you have to remember all the accessories and stuff are on the motor too. I'm sure if you saw the bare motor it would look like a small block. I am going to swing by the dealership tomorrow and check it out, just cause I have yet to do it and I need to go to parts there anyways.
KEvin
sciamop
11-21-2004, 04:35 PM
It would be great to see a Nissan Titan 5.6 Quadcam V8 side-by-side with a Chevy LS1 5.7 350cid pushrod V8. Even though the pushrod engine is considered ancient technology, it is a *very* space efficient package. I bet the Chevy engine is almost 3/4 the height, less than 3/4 the width and quite a few pounds less than the smaller displacement Nissan engine...
This is the reason why the 300hp+ Quadcam VG30DETT is not a popular upgrade for the S13: It's as wide as the SR20 is long!
Todd
90 Coupe
93 Coupe
nismo2491
11-21-2004, 04:49 PM
at the same time I'd like to see the 2 blocks side by side. sure adding quadcam is going to make the heads bigger. thats understandable. I just want to know what its size is relative to a similar motor (ie block vs block, or assembled vs like a 4.6L dohc out of a cobra)
KEvin
Ghettokracker71
11-21-2004, 05:12 PM
Either way...I've ridden in a Titan at WOT and its sounds BEAST,and has some nice power to it.
Go nissan.
brianglawson
11-22-2004, 04:50 AM
i drove a titan and damn those things are fast for a truck
sticky240
11-22-2004, 06:37 AM
my titans engine bay (why do that put so much damn plastic in the way of a good looking engine)
http://www.ganoobies.net/albums/NissanTitan/misc_049.sized.jpg
engine alone
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/titan/800px/02_vk56_powertrain.jpg
It pulls hard for a 6500lbs (gross) truck.
MakotoS13
11-22-2004, 07:45 AM
HAHA, there's no effin way you're fittin that motor in a 240.
Fastback180
11-22-2004, 11:07 AM
Nissan is owned by Renault.
exactamundo.
TUnity2
11-22-2004, 04:41 PM
no one has suggested putting it in, sayyyyy a 350Z.
nissan slut
11-22-2004, 04:46 PM
no one has suggested putting it in, sayyyyy a 350Z.
we could, but who would care? who cares about 350z besides 350z owners?
MakotoS13
11-22-2004, 05:01 PM
I care you slut! i want a 350Z motor for the following reasons:
1- its prolly closer to 400lbs than the skyline powerplants
2- its NA which means the need for turbo plumbing doesn't exist
C- with a little work it'd make plenty of power for a 2700lb car
4- more dependable than a KAT or SR
5- more torque than a CA
F- new parts would be CAKE to find
7- SIX SPEEDS OF FUN.
Phlip
11-22-2004, 05:13 PM
I saw a Titan the other day with 3" dual exhaust and all I can say is that the sound coming off that thing was SEX... I went home and jerked off
nismo2491
11-22-2004, 05:23 PM
no one has suggested putting it in, sayyyyy a 350Z
we could, but who would care? who cares about 350z besides 350z owners?
I care you slut! i want a 350Z motor for the following reasons:
1- its prolly closer to 400lbs than the skyline powerplants
2- its NA which means the need for turbo plumbing doesn't exist
C- with a little work it'd make plenty of power for a 2700lb car
4- more dependable than a KAT or SR
5- more torque than a CA
F- new parts would be CAKE to find
7- SIX SPEEDS OF FUN.
geez makoto. they are talking about putting the motor in a 350z. not a 350z motor into a 240sx.
KEvin
MakotoS13
11-22-2004, 05:50 PM
oh... well, my points however offtopic they may be still stand :)
nismo2491
11-22-2004, 05:56 PM
yeah they are very good points definitely. just read better next time. coughdouchebag:pcough
KEvin
MakotoS13
11-22-2004, 05:58 PM
oh, imma tell meph on you!
nismo2491
11-22-2004, 06:29 PM
nooooooo don't do that :fawk2: alright time to get semi-back on topic and a little more serious. :)
KEvin
wootwoot
11-22-2004, 07:46 PM
i keep trying to think of the ultimate n/a engine for a 240. i love turbo to but it gets pricey and n/a engines will just take a beating forever. as said before an (d)ohc engine seems like it would be hard to make happen for fitment issues, or you can just not run a hood =P
i dont know much about v8 engines since they never came in cars i have been interested in but a v8 pushrod with an aluminum block and heads would be great. i believe the ls1 is that is it not? put a de stroker kit in that with some nice headwork and it could possibly be bad as f. ford has the 4.6l ohc cam engine that is aluminum but i believe space would be an issue there. the other n/a engines that i have seen as possible are the f20c which can be had pretty easily and if built correct could be amazing and light weight. i know iam straying with the majority of my post but did nissan ever have a inline 6 cylinder that is truely worthy to build up or even possible to extract some amount of power? n/a ofcourse
nismo2491
11-22-2004, 07:53 PM
you could aways build a high compression, individual throttle body ka. that'd be off the hook fun if done right. dohc of course since sohc has been done. and sohc is shit. suxxers!
KEvin
MakotoS13
11-22-2004, 08:04 PM
has ANYONE supercharged a KA with decent results? i'd kill to see a roots blower strapped on a fuggin DOHC KA.
nightwalker
11-22-2004, 09:51 PM
old news. Go search you newb!
LT1's do fit in 240sx's LS1's will fit and 5.7 liters is 350 cubic inches i want an LS1-240sx
nismo2491
11-22-2004, 10:32 PM
yeah but a 351 is 5.8L because it rounded up. IIRC.
KEvin
hahahahaha, a V8 in a 240 is not a problem, a Titan engine in a 240 is!! due to the amount of stuff on it and the fact that its not a small block V8 its a big block. I Seriously doubt it would be even possible and my buddies at Nissan have made jokes about the subject which leads me to believe its not possible cause if it was they would already be talking about doing it not making jokes about doing it.
dude do you even know what a big block is? :bash: k you recinded your comment in a later post :)
the titan motor might fit; it just depends on how wide the heads are... DOHC motors are much larger than a pushrod due to the head design... tho some motors (like the 1uz-fe toyota v8 and other variations) can fit in almost anything...
it'd be a better idea and a cheaper alternative to slap in a GS430 motor, nab the V160 6-speed and order a custom bellhousing from australia (they make them over there) to mate the two...
run a standalone ECU, etc... it'd still be cheaper than running a titan v8 and a 350z tranny... could prolly slap on a turbo kit and still come out cheaper
Ok I just need to get something straight that I had told to me. Someone told me that the new Titan V8 motor that is in the Titan pick-up has a sister transmission to the transmission in the 350Z. Then they explained to me that the manual transmission from the Z33 could be bolted onto the Titan motor, there by making it FR and with a custom drive shaft / mounts, and one serious rewire could be places into a 240.
I do not seriously plan on doing this, I am just curious of whether it is possible/true. I do not like to be misinformed.
If someone did do this swap it would some serious investments. But it would be unreal to have a complete in company V8 240 without using a domestic V8. The first all Japanese muscle car haha.
are you sure they didnt mean the 240Z ?
and they already swaped it into a 240.. Z twin turboed as well.. its freaking bad ass....
The_Poet
11-23-2004, 02:51 AM
are you sure they didnt mean the 240Z ?
and they already swaped it into a 240.. Z twin turboed as well.. its freaking bad ass....
No I am talking about a 89-94 240SX. And yes I have see the video of the 240Z with the domestic V8 in it. I just thought it would be very interesting for a 240SX to still have everything Nissan on it and be a V8 instead of doing a domestic hybrid.
I personaly probably would not due this swap due to suspension issues of getting the handling right with all the extra front wieght and there is the cost issues also. I was just curious if anyone knew for a fact if it was possible.
Personally I am going CA18DET swap.
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