Megan Racing coilover review

[Jeff240sx]

Hey everyone. Here is my ongoing review on the Megan Racing coilovers. The first two posts were put on Freshalloy and copied here (there was a thread inquiring about them, so I replied).

Day 1:
[Talk about whether or not Megan Racing coilovers are D2/KSport coilovers due to price similarities]
They 100% aren't the same.
Here's the Macpherson mount that Asad is talking about [Welded steel versus KSport's cast aluminum].
http://jeff.obhost.net/filestorage/PICT0053.JPG

The MR coilovers make the KSports (which I currently have) feel like a toy. One of my KSports was bent (yea, seriously) [not the case.. explaination later], so I picked up this set of MR coils. Once installed I'll be writing a review on these things.
Here are some pros that I can gather just by look/feel.
Steel [macpherson] mounts. Pillowball mounts front AND rear. One springrate (8/6) to eliminate many of the poor-valving complaints of d2/ksport. A full dust cover versus my ksport's 1.5" dustcap. No aweful clip for the brake line getting bolted on (it's in the pic and attached to the mounting bracket). What *looks* like more height adjustment (which is good, because KSports wouldn't let me get back up to stock height if I wanted. I was tucking some 18s). Some of the better parts to these are the 32-stage dampener clicks 32 times, rather than the ambiguous turning of the ksports, and no definative notches. People started labling them as 3/3.5 turns from far left. And the dampner adjuster allen keys are always attached to the strut, rather than the 8" key that floats around, and you get sad when one bends, ala ksport.
Here's a couple more teaser pics. Sorry my camera sucks hard. When I do the review and install, I'll be using a friends camera.
http://jeff.obhost.net/filestorage/PICT0054.JPG
http://jeff.obhost.net/filestorage/PICT0055.JPG

I'm sure I'll get Matt's opinion of these, ride-quality wise, and probably a few other peoples. As well as a direct comparison to my KSports (not hard to beat. I'd rather have a spring/shock combo than those things), a friend's s14 with Tanabe somethings, and a friend's s13 with tien basics. Give me about a week for a full review.
-Jeff

Day 2:

The one issue that I had during the install was the lower macpherson strut mount bolt holes. Sadly, they were too close by 1/8", so I had to dremel out the hole into an oval to mount them up. I plan on calling up Megan Racing and Underground to inform them of this tomorrow morning.
Initial impressions of driving around are that they are very comfortable for 8/6 rates, with very little bounce. The KSport clunk is not in these coilovers, even when I severely preloaded the springs.
Also, the KSports claimed 0-4" drop. The 0" drop is a flat-out lie. I was a full 2" lower with the KSports maxed out. The Megan Racing coilovers, however, go to true 0", if not raising the car a bit. I'm no longer tucking wheels, and actually have some suspension travel.
The main issue I had with the KSports is that they have the camber adjustment on the mounting plate, and then a slotted bolt-hole on the upper spindle mount. This, on my driver's side, refused to stay in the correct, furthest out point, and always slid back, creating -4* camber on my driver's tire, and caused it to rub the spring. I ended up adding a spacer so when (not if) it happened, I wouldn't destroy the tire. I don't know why there were 2 camber adjustments on the KSports.. but it wasn't good in my opinion. Before I sell them to a friend, I'm going to find textured nuts for the macpherson mounts, and hopefully he won't get the same camber slide.
And you know I can't compete with Alex and his techno-toys [who in a month will shock-dyno these coilovers]. I'm just a regular guy with a car and a buttdyno.
-Jeff

PS: I'll be updating this as I continue to drive and compare, as well as get opinions of other suspension gurus. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[SoCalS14]

Some of the better parts to these are the 32-stage dampener clicks 32 times, rather than the ambiguous turning of the ksports, and no definative notches. People started labling them as 3/3.5 turns from far left.

You know when I was out at the Eibach meet, the R&D fella giving the tours said something that was real interesting. HE said that the #-way damping adjustments is, in most cases, just bells and whistles...That, in his own experience, putting various set-ups through the shock dyno reveals only a few (4-5) actual noticable adjustment differences...So what are we to think about 32-way adjustment? Do we actually gain or lose anything between 31 & 32? Or even 25 & 32? I would like to see some graphs...

The skeptic.

Good show on the write-up however...

[Jeff240sx]

As I said. Alex will shock dyno these things in a month. I'm just the guy that realizes one can spend money on crap, and admit it. So here I am.. saying these coilovers aren't crap. I'm rather pissed that I needed to "Customize" the bolt holes on the macpherson strut mount, but that would be easy to change.
-Jeff

[SoCalS14]

Thanks for the report from the "buttdyno"...hahaha

[S14DB]

Link to the other thread? Pulease?

[Jeff240sx]

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB27&Number=67874789&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

[nightwalker]

can't wait to see the shock dyno

[RBS14]

What *looks* like more height adjustment (which is good, because KSports wouldn't let me get back up to stock height if I wanted.

you're fucking joking right? You got coilovers and are worried about not being able to run stock ride height? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: If this isn't a joke, you need to have your priviliges as a mod revoked immediately. I guess this is in keeping with a bajillion dollars into your engine first, without a quarter that much into suspension.

to each their own I guess.

[sLiDewAys]

yeah i want to see this dyno as well./ hoping for them to be pretty decent:)

[Jeff240sx]

[QUOTE=RBS14]you're fucking joking right? You got coilovers and are worried about not being able to run stock ride height? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: If this isn't a joke, you need to have your priviliges as a mod revoked immediately. I guess this is in keeping with a bajillion dollars into your engine first, without a quarter that much into suspension.[QUOTE]

You're a fucking idiot. And for "you need to have your priviliges as a mod revoked immediately", you should have your priviliges [sic] as a member revoked. And I can do that for you.

Since your head was up your ass, and you refused to read the freshalloy link, or ever what I've written in full, KSport coilovers have a rear suspension height issue.
"The thing that I'm curious about is if these have the same rear shock travel issue that the D2's have. If not then I may have to pick them up." and
"On S14s the rear shock body (or the lower mount, depending how you look at it) is too short, and even when raised quite a bit, the rear is still very low."
I've gotten the Megan coilovers 3" higher than the KSports, and still had 2" worth of threads left. I've raised my car 1.5" in the rear versus what I had with the KSports.
So, oh one who speaks without thinking, KSports have an issue of dropping your car 3" at full extension in the rears. While advertising 0-4" drop. Either say 3-10" drop, or simply advertise nothing specific at all. Megan Racing don't have this "problem."
Yes, I'm lowered. No, I don't care what you think. But if you lash out at my ability to write a comparison on coilovers, and somehow think that my praise of actual full-height adjustment somehow interferes with my abilities to moderate.. I'm going to pink you.
-Jeff

[crioten]

hes not pink yet...??

so....back on topic:

would YOU recomend these to other people? (or should i wait for that answer until you have compared them to other setups?)

good review by the way...imho more people should do this (but at the same time, most people are idiots and cant really give a good informativ review) :)

[240Stilo]

Then again some people don't like to let others know that their cars have aftermarket parts for fear of asshole theives.

[Ghettokracker71]

Hah hah! I read this thread,and was surfing around eBay and this guy had a set for sale,in the item description it had something about 'look at this email I got from a recent customer : Jeff E. ,Moderator, Zilvia.net boards. '

Thought that was funny

[HyperTek]

I think a budget coilover shoot out is due..
-Tein SS
-KTS/SPL Parts
-D2
-Mookeeh
-Ksports
-Megan Racing
and whoever im forgeting..

[Ghettokracker71]

I'll be in....so long as somebody sponsors my coilovers and testing lmao

[sr240mike]

Damn he's using Jeff's celebrity to sell product without his approval. Tiger Woods is suing a yacht company for 30 million in damages for using his name to slang boats. You better get some scrilla for those coilovers if not get another set for free.

[S14DB]

Jeff wrote him an email saying how he loved the product.

[OptionZero]

I'm serious, maybe we can get with FreshAlloy to find cars and members to do the testing, I'd love to see it. Any magazines out there wanna capitalize on the 240 fetish and pay for the equipment? =P

[sLiDewAys]

lol that would be productive! les doo ittttt

[Jeff240sx]

hes not pink yet...??

so....back on topic:

would YOU recomend these to other people? (or should i wait for that answer until you have compared them to other setups?)

good review by the way...imho more people should do this (but at the same time, most people are idiots and cant really give a good informativ review) :)

I'm thinking I'll do a one week review, because coilovers break in. Like today.. day 3, they are softer and less bouncy than previously.
I'll write day 3 tomorrow, and compare and contrast. I'm tired tonight. Was doing stuff. Look for another thread by me tonight :)
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

Damn he's using Jeff's celebrity to sell product without his approval.

I wrote an email saying they were nice looking. I simply recieved them, opened the box, and wasn't dissapointed. Loved is a strong word. I had no knowledge that my email would be put into an Ebay auction.. if I did, I certainly would sound more like the educated person I am, rather than the 21 year old that just got things from a guy I'm on a first-name basis with.
-Jeff

[justinhustle]

he prolly had the option on that puts all emails and replies into the auction for that item(s)

meanwhile, its about time someone man'd up and bought those, cant wait to hear/see the results

[Jeff240sx]

I'd definately recommend them to anyone that needs budget coilovers. At $700 for D2/ksport (please, don't think about this option), $800 for Tien basics, a 3/2 kg/mm (IIRC) coilover with zero adjustability, or $900 for the Megan Racing, I'd say man up and buy it. Even my buddy with the nicer Tanabes ($1000 range) has no adjustability. He owns the basics and the tanabes that I'm going to do an direct comparo to, and he's drooling on these MR coilovers. I'll tell you right off the bat.. for comfort, the Tien Basics are so close to stock, it's insane.
-Jeff

[nightwalker]

not to dog on you, but the KTS, which has been well received, and many members own already, are only 200 more.

Gotta get those shock dynos!

[OptionZero]

Yeah...but these are red.

Everyone knows red is the fastest color....though SPL blue is a nice second

[umsports]

Jeff,

I really appreciate you testing these out...

Besides the bolt-holes..(Which I am going to email Calvin today about)

What else did you find negative?

Hearing about the good, which I already know, is really positive...

I have the Apexi N1 Pros on my car, and I would be willing to pit the MR's against them...

But is there anymore negative to them? I am more interested in this as I don't want to recommend anything bad to my customers...

And by the way, for you Zilvia.net guys, I will offer the same deal as I did yesterday to the NICO guys: $849.99 plus shipping on the MR's..

Hopefully that will help challenge the rest of the "budget coilovers"..

[cali240sxdrifter]

when does it end? I don't get my next paycheck in 2 weeks and I want to get these, let me know. anything on a GB?

[umsports]

$845 is, I GUARANTEE OR WILL REFUND THE DIFFERENCE, the cheapest you are ever going to find them...

I marked them $50 lower than I was told was the bottom selling dollar from MR to basically serve as a GB price...

At that price, there is no profit margin and no markup..

Basically I'm giving them away to help the 240SX community...consider this a Christmas present from UM... :coold:

[TokyoNights]

Are these rebuildable?Does MR offer that service?

[Jeff240sx]

not to dog on you, but the KTS, which has been well received, and many members own already, are only 200 more.

Gotta get those shock dynos!

Why are you dogging me? But $1129 is a far cry from $850. That's $300 more, and $450 over the budget coilover low-end.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

I have the Apexi N1 Pros on my car, and I would be willing to pit the MR's against them...

But is there anymore negative to them? I am more interested in this as I don't want to recommend anything bad to my customers...


I'm going to get in touch with a professional drifter and have him flog on my car for a bit and let me know how it is.

The bouncyness has all but subsided, and the ride is extremely comfortable for 8/6 spring rates. The bolt holes I was fairly irritated about, but it was only 3 Dremel grinder bits and they fit like a glove. But there is nothing more negative that I can say. The camber adjustment goes out far enough to give a couple extra degrees of camber, the shock tube goes to full height, awesome construction.
Any recommendations? Surely. From talking with a few people, the spring rates are scary for some. Some sort of helper spring would solve this. They aren't necessary by any means, as even my gf finds these coilovers very bearable.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

JFC!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7934530193&category=33586

D2 coilovers for $1149!
If a zilvia member buys those, I'm hunting you down and beating you with a cheaper, better Megan Racing coilover.
That is all.
-Jeff

[nightwalker]

Why are you dogging me? But $1129 is a far cry from $850. That's $300 more, and $450 over the budget coilover low-end.
-Jeff

They were priced 900 before the 850 offer. 850 is even nicer obviously. But aside from the price, I think people are waiting for motorsports impressions, and technical information, which hasn't been provided. I'm all for a nice set of cheap coilovers (need a set for my other car eventually) but throwing 850 bucks at a coilover set from an unrecognized company that doesn't campaign their own race cars is a risk I wouldn't take.

I think, that even if the coilovers were not discounted, but proven, whether by competition or tech, people would not have a problem shelling out 900 for them.

Just like anything else from a start up company that enters the market, it will receive it's share of scrutiny to see if it stacks up to current offers.

Just look at the success of the KTS coilovers from SPL.

[420sx]

way to go Jeff. good luck wid da coilz!

[SilviaDriver]

Why are you dogging me? But $1129 is a far cry from $850. That's $300 more, and $450 over the budget coilover low-end.
-Jeff

1129 is not a set price for the KTS. [email protected] said that the price of the KTS depends the current exchange rate. i saw these coilovers go under 1120 before.

[sr240mike]

Got my d2's for $800 shipped a few weeks ago. They can still be had for under $900 from a few places.

[mjjstang]

1129 is not a set price for the KTS. [email protected] said that the price of the KTS depends the current exchange rate. i saw these coilovers go under 1120 before.


is that their excuse for raising the price constantly, its getting fucking rediculous, tryin to save up for em, and when I get the cash they go and raise it again.

[RBS14]

^^^^^
It's not an excuse. I bought a couple adjustable arms from them and checked back a month later and they were like $20 cheaper a piece. They really adjust it according to the exchange rate.

[SilviaDriver]

is that their excuse for raising the price constantly, its getting fucking rediculous, tryin to save up for em, and when I get the cash they go and raise it again.

actually its not an excuse. heres the order ive seen them go

set price
higher than set price
lower
higher
higher

ive seen them get close to 1 grand before.

[mjjstang]

hmm oh well i guess ill wait for it to plataue(sp?) or go down or something, maybe ittl give me a reason to go to yahoo finance.

ohh so rereading it, I was actully just frustrated, however much they are gonna be it doesnt matter, cause from the reviews, Its a bargain, (the Kts) sry I made it sound like they were screwin me. but anyway, the review of the MR should be good cant wait.

[Jeff240sx]

Plateau. Level off. Stabilize.
All of you. Quit crapping up my thread!
-Jeff

[RBS14]

nobody was adding anything useful anyways. we were waiting for more review info. *wink*

[Nismo_Freak]

Unfortunately it's due to the exchange rate changing between the Yen and USD and because of this economic roller coaster it's hard for us to maintain a single price.

We do not believe in artificially jacking up our pricing.

Thanks,
Alan
SPL PARTS

[umsports]

Alan is a good guy, recently bought a SR20DET from us, and we picked up some suspension parts from them...

Good company!

Now back to the thread...More Reviews!

[umsports]

UPDATE:

I called Calvin from Megan Racing... They had just found out from another customer about the 1/8 larger bolt hole that needed to be made..

They were originally test fitted for the first time with their S13 coilovers...

The S13 ones fit perfect, no mods needed....

The S14 ones they are going to fix, or you can spend 30 seconds with a dremel.. We're talking about a very minute fix... He said they are going to have them fixed on their next order from overseas..

[sr240mike]

Shoulds used a drill press. 30 seconds a piece. Thats too heavy duty for a dremel. But yeah, they should be done right at the factory.

[Jeff240sx]

Sorry. You seem to forget that not everyone lives inside a machine shop, and while my only means of transportation was in the air, ready to recieve the new coilovers... I couldn't go anywhere.

However, you're right. The steel brackets were heavy-duty, and didn't give in to bieng ground down.

Anyway, it's great that Megan Racing found out and is in the process of fixing that issue. That was my only complaint on these.
-Jeff

[fliprayzin240sx]

Hmm...im now sooooo contemplating on getting these. Just as long as these things dont pull a *JIC in a WRX while auto-xing* on me. If yall remember that story...*wink wink*

[RBS14]

why would you even bother? there are so many other race/drift proven coilovers out there, there is no reason to buy cheap shit like this. They build a coilover for a car and don't even test fit it on there to make sure the 2 main bolts holding it to the suspension fit through the holes? Makes me wonder about the valving and build quality. Valving on HE's is somewhat weak and I can almost certainly guarantee these are lower quality than HE's. They might be fine now, but how about in a year? 240 people are so cheap they don't recognize shitty products when they are hit upside the head with them.

[umsports]

They are by no means "Cheap Shit."

Megan Racing is buying these from the same manufacturer overseas that produces quite a few lines of a few other brands I can assure you, you've heard of..

The quality is good, no doubt...

[95zilvia]

So anyways, where can I get them? The underground-motorsports.com website is not working. Who should I contact to find out more information about this product? And I don't think the question was answered about the rebuilding of the shocks. What kind of warranty is there on these coilovers and like, I dunno, just a bunch of answers that I need before I put down $900 for these coilovers. Also anyone want to buy my APexi WS for S13 :P I want to trade for these Megan Racing ones.
Who should I call, should I call Calvin from MR? Should I call someone from UM? I want these now.

[RBS14]

if this was true, then whomever they are purchasing from would know the holes need to be a certain size.

[Jeff240sx]

So anyways, where can I get them? The underground-motorsports.com website is not working. Who should I contact to find out more information about this product? And I don't think the question was answered about the rebuilding of the shocks. What kind of warranty is there on these coilovers and like, I dunno, just a bunch of answers that I need before I put down $900 for these coilovers. Also anyone want to buy my APexi WS for S13 :P I want to trade for these Megan Racing ones.
Who should I call, should I call Calvin from MR? Should I call someone from UM? I want these now.

www.undergroundmotorsports.com works for me.

RBS: One bolt hole was off by 1/8". Slightly eclipsed. In tech class, when I was making things on the CNC mill, a slight error in a program will cause this. And without test fitting, you'd never know. They are getting this taken care of, what's the deal.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say what company manufactures these, but their coilovers are $1800 a set.
So really, you can think what you'd like. To me, $849 and $1129 are in totally separate price ranges. Name another $900 or less coilover, and these will compete hard.
-Jeff

[95zilvia]

Website does not work for me and it's makin me anger. Who do I get in contact with.

[Maxtype 240]

Can't wait to check them out and compare them against my previous Apexis and current HKS. What settings do you have them on by the way?

Jesse

[umsports]

I'm sorry, our web hosting company's server crashed yesterday...

I don't have an ETA, but I'm have been pestering them all morning...

If you would like to purchase them, you can send payment via Paypal to our business email...

[email protected]

Thanks!

Chris Riggs
Owner, Underground

P.S.- Don't forget $45 for shipping in the continental USA.

[umsports]

Yes, they come with a 2 year manufacturers warranty!

So, for $850 what do you have to lose?

[Jeff240sx]

Can't wait to check them out and compare them against my previous Apexis and current HKS. What settings do you have them on by the way?

Jesse

Jesse, give me a call and we can meet up somewhere. I plan on getting your and Matts opinions on these.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

www.undergroundmotorsports.com works for me.


Sorry, it was in my browser's cache. It wasn't working for me :keke:
-Jeff

[Maxtype 240]

Add Jerry to the mix, we'll be installing his Silk Roads w/ 9/7 springs this weekend! Looks like our next Nissan meet will be interesting :)

Jesse

[gogeeta13]

Just ordered a set from underground. I will post up my review when i get em.

[nightwalker]

WOW, I went back and realized that the Megan Racing Coilovers were compared to the Apex N1 pros. That's a lofty claim. Definitely waiting to see tech and comparison.

[AzNCmB]

do you have any more pictures?? can you post some more pics of before and after the install...

thanks

[s13dan]

sounds like it comes down to if someone asks you what coilover set up you have, do you want to say, "yea i got d2's" or "i got.... megan." but thats all prefrence

[mbmbmb23]

I don't know if I'm allowed to say what company manufactures these, but their coilovers are $1800 a set.

-Jeff

Ok....maybe you're not allowed to say...but I think we (faljukin from FA to be exact) had it pegged in the FA thread.

http://www.bcec.com.tw/

If you dont believe it, read the above Fresh Alloy thread. If people have any bit of deductive reasoning ability they should be able to figure this out for themselves.


Anyhow.....for the haters in this thread.....it's not as if Megan Racing decided......hmmm...lets engineer and build our own coilover and get them on ebay ASAP. They did what most Japanese companies do.......find an established manufacturer to build them a product.....then rebadge them and sell them.....and fortunately for the coilover purchaser on a budget (most people who own a 240sx) it seems Megan Racing found an established company (from Korea, Taiwan, etc.) to supply them with a decent product. I wouldnt be suprised if BC also made a number of other "JDM" coilover brands.

These do seem pretty quality and I'll be watching the final writeup very intently while I put together the last bit of coilover money I'm saving up.

Good job Jeff240sx, keep up the good work with your testing.




-m

[Jeff240sx]

Ok....maybe you're not allowed to say...but I think we (faljukin from FA to be exact) had it pegged in the FA thread.

http://www.bcec.com.tw/

If you dont believe it, read the above Fresh Alloy thread. If people have any bit of deductive reasoning ability they should be able to figure this out for themselves.

Shibby. The documentation that comes in the box lists them as VH' Design. That is BCE's top of the line coilover.
I'm glad someone understands how this works.
-Jeff

[gogeeta13]

Wow, can't wait till mine come. i used to have D2s...but my car isnt together yet so i never even put em in yet, lol. so i cant really do the comparison.,

[umsports]

I was really hoping you guys weren't going to find out about my source..

But yes, you are right...

They produce coilovers for multiple JDM brands...for all you "Gotta be JDM" guys, go put a Japanese flag sticker on them and tell everybody they are "JDM"...Since this seems to be a big worry for many of you...

Do many of you not understand that the Japanese don't produce the bulk of their own stuff they badge? They are out to maximize profit as well as we are here in the states...

These are extremely nice coilovers and I wouldn't put my reputation on the line for crap I didn't believe in...

I think all that have purchased will be very, very happy...

[Masa]

umsports, any idea how much shipping to Hilo, Hawaii 96720 would be for these coils(s13)?.

[Jeff240sx]

umsports, any idea how much shipping to Hilo, Hawaii 96720 would be for these coils(s13)?.

Please contact them off the forums. i.e. call or visit their website.
This thread is my review of the coilovers.
-Jeff

[mbmbmb23]

I was really hoping you guys weren't going to find out about my source..

But yes, you are right...



Chris,

I wouldnt worry at all about that, you'll definately sell more units because of it. I just think that many 240sx owners (the ones who'd be in the market for coilovers) are wary of higher dollar products from newly established/unproven companies (MR), but BC seems to be established and have a nice reputation in NZ/AUST and specializes in one type of product.....thus....these should sell well here.

I'm definately ordering these within the next month or so, but honestly if I hadnt discovered the BC connection, I wouldnt even be considering them right now. I'd probably just assume they were made by the same company that makes D2/Ksport.

PS. You might wanna list what the Paypal total is (in your GB threads) after the Paypal fees are factored in.



-m

[nightwalker]

44mm piston.... :drool: hurry and get them tested! Better yet, contact Asad on FA and contribute to his project!

[cali240sxdrifter]

thanks mbmbmb23 for posting that link up. am giving myself a good chirstmas present this year. can't wait to get them

[Jeff240sx]

PS. You might wanna list what the Paypal total is (in your GB threads) after the Paypal fees are factored in.
-m

Seeing as I have no affiliation with anything but myself and Zilvia.net, I have to again state that this thread is not for anyone to sell coilover.
Chris, you are not a registered advertiser on Zilvia.net, nor group buy vendor. Posting prices and doing business in this review thread is no allowed.
Also, businesses other than UMS sell these coilovers, like Enjuku racing.
Just letting everybody know, there will be no more how much who do I pay where can I get questions. If you have a question about the coilovers, post away, and I'll do my best to answer. If UMSports knows more about them and answers a tech question, that's within the limits.

-Jeff

[hellion240sx]

so just to make sure there is no modification on the s13 applications right? also somewhere mentioned on here that something kept moving out of place. , can you clear that up?
thanks.

[Jeff240sx]

so just to make sure there is no modification on the s13 applications right? also somewhere mentioned on here that something kept moving out of place. , can you clear that up?
thanks.

According to MR, s13 fit perfectly. And the "something moving out of place" was the upper camber slot on the KSport coilovers. The MR don't have this issue.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

Megan Racing Coilovers:
Impressions, Thoughts and Opinions

When I heard about the Megan Racing Coilovers, and having friends that have test-fit prototypes for their products, I knew they’d be good. So without hesitation, I snapped up the chance to buy a set of coilovers from them for about the same price as the KSports I bought a month before.
Before I go into a review on these, one needs to realize who I am. I’m just a guy in college. I don’t drift. I don’t autocross. I take corners very fast, and drag race. My previous car was a Corvette, so suspension stiffness is relative to me, and my girlfriend isn’t one of those bitchy ones.

First Thoughts
I paid for my coilovers on a Tuesday night. On Friday afternoon, the UPS guy came up the stairs with the coilovers. This was lightning fast shipping courtesy of Megan Racing. At first, I was surprised by the weight of the package. My KSports were just over ½ the weight. I knew something was different, and when I tore into the box like a kid on Christmas, there it was; welded steel construction. With budget coilovers, I was expecting cheap feeling aluminum mounts as with KSport/D2. Also, there were pillow ball mounts on the rear shocks. This wasn’t even an option on the KSport/D2, and even front PBMs were an additional $80. I was really impressed. Plus, they were pre-assembled. No building on them required. The 32-way dampener’s key is attached, which is one less piece to lose! (Does it work? I don’t know. I don’t have a shock dyno)
First Thoughts: 10/10.

Installation
That weekend, I removed and installed the Megan Racing coilovers. People seem to buy suspension based on color, aesthetics, and pictures of the installed product. For the first two groups of people, you’re idiots. For the last group, even though a shock inherently must mount at points A & B so I personally don’t see why pictures are required, my camera died. I was hoping to get my car in the air one more time this weekend, but a more important issue came up. So I don’t have pictures of the mounted coilovers. Maybe I will in another week.
After removing the gaudy orange KSports, I bolted up the front shock. But my S14 set’s McPherson mounting plate’s bolt holes were not far enough apart. When compared to the KSport’s McPherson mount, the holes were 1/8” too close. I solved this with a Dremel tool, a spare car, and a trip to the store for 3 grinding bits. After 40 minutes of grinding (yes, if I would have had a bench press, I would have used it), the mounting brackets fit.
The rear studs on the upper mounting plates are longer than stock/KSport studs, and the rubber dust cap will not snap down over them. This isn’t a serious issue, but it made me wonder why there were so many installation issues that could or should have been corrected before shipping for sales.
Installation: 3/10.
*I’m told that this has been corrected for S14s.*

Initial Reaction
These coilovers were less stiff, and less bouncy than my KSports could hope to be. Even with the 8/6 spring rates, the ride was really comfortable. The ride is perfect for my tastes. Stiff and nice for my girlfriend’s taste, and “Really stiff” to my buddy Braxton, who owns a Civic Hatch. As I said in the intro, stiffness is relative.
Initial Reaction: 8/10. It lost a few points for the bounciness.

Long Term
It’s been 2 weeks since I’ve installed these. The coilovers have settled ¼-½ an inch. This has made the ride much softer than initially. I will be re-raising my car when time permits, and if I have a camera available, I’ll snap some pictures. The bounciness has all but subsided. The ride is still too harsh for Braxton, and Brandi and I think the ride is nice for every day. My one issue that has popped up is that occasionally, when making a left turn, my passenger-side rear shock clunks. Tomorrow I plan on double-checking all mounting points, and recounting the threads. I left the coilovers at the preload that they were shipped with. I’m thinking a it needs a bit more in the rear.
Long Term: 8/10 due to the newfound occasional clunk. Tomorrow, if something simple fixes the clunk, it’ll be a 10.

Comparison
When comparing one coilover to another, I think that price ranges should be used. And $200 seems like a perfectly reasonable price range. So in the $700 to $900 price range, the coilovers that I have experience with are: Tein basics ($799), Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC (6/4) ($799), KSport/D2 ($750), and Megan Racing. ($850)
Tein Basics: A step up from a spring/shock combo. 6/6 spring rate. Only height adjustable.
Here you are paying for a great ride and name. These come with helper springs, making these the ultimate coilover setup for daily driving in my opinion.
Megan Racing: 8/6 spring rates. Single valve shock setup. Awesome construction. In my opinion, my favorite ride all around. For daily driving only, I’d buy Tein Basics. But for a good mix of comfort and performance, I’ll take these.
Tanabe: Good ride. I’d rate these slightly behind the Megan Racing coilovers. 6/4 spring rate. Also only height adjustable. Dual valve shock setup. These have a good ride due to helper springs again, but sharp bumps (like a pothole) are pretty bone jarring once you’ve passed the helper springs. If you don’t hit potholes, for daily driving, these are #2. For performance, once you pass the helper spring, it’s like you’ve bottomed out the suspension. It’s not a nice transition, and I’ll take the Megan Racing coilovers over them.
KSport/D2: Utter crap. I had an issue with the camber adjustment bolt sliding from where I set it to full negative camber, which caused rubbing. When I HAD to drive, I installed wheel spacers so I wouldn’t rub, and drove carefully. These were stiff, bouncy, and clunked badly. The clunking is from the front, and is either the pillow ball mount needing a better lubrication, or the springs being too preloaded have been known to cause it. The sliding camber bolt I will fix by making a blockoff plate, and eliminating all of the slot, leaving a bolt hole. The stiffness is because KSports were offered in many spring rates, and I really don’t think they were re-valved for each rate. When I ordered 9/7 and an extra set of 5kg/mm, I didn’t receive the extra springs, and couldn’t revert to what the coilovers were supposedly valved for (7/5). I also put a mere 20 miles on my car with the KSports due to the camber issue, so some of the bounce and harshness *might* go away. The 1-year warranty associated with them is a joke, because KSport USA’s website lists the address the same as TrixRacing, who has up and left dozens of people on NICO without cash or coils.

What would I like?
First off I’d like a new set of McPherson mounting plates from Megan Racing. I think that myself, and anyone else who has had to elongate the bolt holes deserves a new set, in the name of safety and customer service.
Next up, I think if helper springs were an option, I’d really look into them. After taking some rather long joyrides in my friend’s cars with the coilovers with helper springs, my car feels much, much more stiff. That feeling goes away after a bit, but getting out of the Tein Basic s13 and into my Megan Racing s14 is an eye opener. Please don’t construe this as the Megan Racing is too stiff. It’s not. I like it a lot. But a good set of helper springs with a decent transition, and these coilovers would be HOT.

If anything pops up, or I snap some pictures, I’ll stuff them into this thread. Aside from picture questions (Look at online pictures from retailers. They had a professional take those pictures. And when they’re installed, they go from the one mounting point to the other. It’s not hard to mentally picture), if there is something I haven’t covered, ask away.

[cali240sxdrifter]

*clap* thanks for the awesome review, this is what I was waiting for before I shell out the other 400bucks on my credit card for these suckers. More pics would be awesome thou jeff, thou Tampa is not that far from Melbourne and looking at them in person would be awesome. thanks for the write up again.

[Powashiftin]

The MR coilovers look great. Congrats on a good purchase.

I don't know if it was mentioned but are the Ksports and D2 the same? Can anyone confirm this? I didn't think they were. Also, perhaps in a separate thread, I would like to hear AceInHole's opinion on his D2's. He has had them for quite some time now and some feedback on how they have performed would be nice.

You are trashing on Ksports but you only had them on for 20 miles? Maybe there was an installation error. Don't get me wrong, I am not accusing you of anything. I'm just wondering.

Also you mentioned that your box of MR coilovers where twice as heavy as the box of the ksports? I know my D2 box was really heavy- I forget the exact weight, but I was surpised as to how heavy they were. Maybe you exagerrated a little bit.

Anyways, congrats again on the purchase. They look awesome.

[Jeff240sx]

The MR coilovers look great. Congrats on a good purchase.

I don't know if it was mentioned but are the Ksports and D2 the same? Can anyone confirm this? I didn't think they were. Also, perhaps in a separate thread, I would like to hear AceInHole's opinion on his D2's. He has had them for quite some time now and some feedback on how they have performed would be nice.

You are trashing on Ksports but you only had them on for 20 miles? Maybe there was an installation error. Don't get me wrong, I am not accusing you of anything. I'm just wondering.

Also you mentioned that your box of MR coilovers where twice as heavy as the box of the ksports? I know my D2 box was really heavy- I forget the exact weight, but I was surpised as to how heavy they were. Maybe you exagerrated a little bit.

Anyways, congrats again on the purchase. They look awesome.

I am trashing the KSports. I would have kept them, bouncy and stiff and all had the camber bolt not kept sliding and giving me -4+* camber in one tire. I've thought about it, and either textured spindle nuts, or the blockoff plate will fix the KSports, and I'll give them to a friend. It's just that one side, and it's not an issue of me bieng weak and leaving the bolt loose. I'm calling it a defect. And the KSports weighed ~40 pounds, the Megan racing were closer to 70 pounds. I said just over 1/2.
-Jeff

[umsports]

Wow, this is more than I expected...I really appreciate your effort on the review... I know it will benefit all those who are in the market for suspension parts...

Please email me at [email protected] if you guys have any tech questions or feel free to post back on here...

I am happy to answer any install, tech questions you might have..

[axiomatik]

At first, I was surprised by the weight of the package. My KSports were just over ½ the weight. I knew something was different, and when I tore into the box like a kid on Christmas, there it was; welded steel construction. With budget coilovers, I was expecting cheap feeling aluminum mounts as with KSport/D2.

Great review, though I find it odd that you equate aluminum constuction with 'cheap'. KSports may be shoddy, but aluminum is nice for reducing unsprung weight when properly designed and constucted.

[SilviaDriver]

shock dyno shock dyno!!

[S14DB]

Great review, though I find it odd that you equate aluminum constuction with 'cheap'. KSports may be shoddy, but aluminum is nice for reducing unsprung weight when properly designed and constucted.
I think "when properly designed and constucted" is the key point here. I personally don't want aluminum supporting the weight of my car.

[Jeff240sx]

Great review, though I find it odd that you equate aluminum constuction with 'cheap'. KSports may be shoddy, but aluminum is nice for reducing unsprung weight when properly designed and constucted.

I understand this. I also understand that our stock TC rods are aluminum, and deal with massive forces every day. However, the distinction between cheap cast aluminum and welded steel is not a fine one. It's a tangible quality. The KSport aluminum is too weak to hold the camber bolt in place, and allowed the nut and bolt to slide down the path of least resistance. And when the pretty paint is gone, you can see it's nothing more than low quality aluminum.
-Jeff

[fade2black]

im bought hahahah MR sus here i come!

[axiomatik]

I think "when properly designed and constucted" is the key point here. I personally don't want aluminum supporting the weight of my car.

There is nothing wrong with having aluminum supporting your car. FD's front wishbones are made from forged aluminum thinner than your finger. It's just that his wording sounded like 'aluminum=cheap' when really the problem was 'design=cheap'

[hellion240sx]

yup this was a great review! your the man jeff! i will be looking into these for a christmas present for myself heh. i got my sell some coilovers for xmas. im so sweet, lol. thanks for answering my q as well. yea i was looking into getting the k sport, not anymore. you had the k sport on your s13 or 14? i have an s13 so these would go on with no problem!!!

peace

edgardo

[YellwMonky]

KSport/D2: Utter crap. I had an issue with the camber adjustment bolt sliding from where I set it to full negative camber, which caused rubbing. When I HAD to drive, I installed wheel spacers so I wouldn’t rub, and drove carefully. These were stiff, bouncy, and clunked badly. The clunking is from the front, and is either the pillow ball mount needing a better lubrication, or the springs being too preloaded have been known to cause it. The sliding camber bolt I will fix by making a blockoff plate, and eliminating all of the slot, leaving a bolt hole. The stiffness is because KSports were offered in many spring rates, and I really don’t think they were re-valved for each rate. When I ordered 9/7 and an extra set of 5kg/mm, I didn’t receive the extra springs, and couldn’t revert to what the coilovers were supposedly valved for (7/5). I also put a mere 20 miles on my car with the KSports due to the camber issue, so some of the bounce and harshness *might* go away. The 1-year warranty associated with them is a joke, because KSport USA’s website lists the address the same as TrixRacing, who has up and left dozens of people on NICO without cash or coils.


Wow...utter crap? Don't you think that's a bit harsh for only driving on them for 20 miles? When I first installed the Ksports, they were REALLY bumpy! After they settled, i think the ride is much better. Also, it's unfortunate that you've had in installation problem with your coilovers. HOwever, I haven't had a problem whatsover. I can't argue with you about Trixracing however. They are by far the worst company i've dealt with. In the end I'm very happy with my purchase of Ksports and I'm sick of reading people bashing the product. Especially after 20 miles ?? :rolleyes: No matter how much hate there is for the D2/Ksports (Especially those people who have never drove with them), it's a good product. Especially for the price. Even if your set was defective (which i doubt :jerkit:) how can you call the whole line utter crap?

[Jeff240sx]

I'm sick of reading people bashing the product. Especially after 20 miles ?? :rolleyes: No matter how much hate there is for the D2/Ksports (Especially those people who have never drove with them), it's a good product. Especially for the price. Even if your set was defective (which i doubt :jerkit:) how can you call the whole line utter crap?

First, my experience with my one set means that the whole line, in my opinion, is utter crap. Sure, maybe I got a defective set. In my experience, 100% of the KSport products I've had sucked.
But guess what else?
Trixracing's address is: 1459 N. Arizona Ave - Chandler, AZ
KSport USA's address is: 1459 N. Arizona Ave - Chandler, AZ
So.. guess where your warranty went? Out of town with Trix.

So, for $750 or whatever, you can have bullshit KSport coilovers, which may or may not be defective and suck, with no warranty or service in America anymore. Or, pay another $50 for Tanabe or Tiens. Another $50 on that for Megan Racing. All three don't suck, have awesome customer service, and will be around for another year to honor your warranty and service the stuff.
KSport - 0
Jeff - 1
-Jeff

[95zilvia]

I got my Megan Racing coilovers and damn, they are nice, I'll have pictures soon on a sorta install and sorta comparison with APexi WS coilovers.
Only thing about the Megan Racing is that I had to get spacers to clear my wheels. I didn't have a problem clearing the APexi coilovers.
I haven't really driven them hard yet. So far all I've experienced is the softest setting :P and damn, they are a comfy/cushy ride!! Actually feel softer than my WS comparing 8/6 to 6/4.

[gogeeta13]

I just received the MR coilovers this week. They look fantastic, better than the D2s I had, and better than my friends tein HEs. Unfortunatly, it snowed this weekend, so my race 240 is going into storage for the winter at my uncles shop. I won't be able to comment on them until the spring...

[Twinkie]

just wondering...for you guys with the megan racing coilovers on for a couple months now...how are they running in the long run? this is such a usefull thread...but im having a hard time making decisions on my suspension. Im a low budget guy so cant afford them hella nice ones.

[meme]

i've ad it on for about 1 week now. the camber keeps slipping. the mounting holes need to widen at the bottom

the rear dampener adjust more then 32 on the rear passenger side. over all i like it. just the camber plate slips

[nightwalker]

i've ad it on for about 1 week now. the camber keeps slipping. the mounting holes need to widen at the bottom

the rear dampener adjust more then 32 on the rear passenger side. over all i like it. just the camber plate slips

:faint: :tweak: ..........

[umsports]

Guys,

Please keep the reviews coming...

I just emailed Calvin from Megan Racing, and he will be checking this thread for the next couple weeks...

You guys are the test subjects for the 240SX community, and your replies are greatly appreciated...

Take care!

Chris
Underground Motorsports

[umsports]

Just got this email from Calvin (Megan Racing) in regards to Jeff240SX' review:

"Thanks for the info, again, the holes on the front struts are already fixed, and they will be arriving in our warehouse around end of this month."

Thanks
Calvin

[SR240DET]

my buddy in hurlbert field got them we installed them a week ago roughly....

lemme say.. before he got the coilovers.. it was just a fastback with sr and boost controler..... he hated that car and almost sold it... now that he has coilover insted of blown stock suspension.. he loves the car more than ever...

overall meagan racing coilovers are great... thay feel just as good as my tein HE's..

[nlzmo400r]

No offense Jeff, but you seem to bash on the ksports pretty hard. You say that people are stupid for buying coilovers for the color, then you come back two sentences later "I removed the GAUDY and UGLY orange ksports" and installed the MRs. You gripe about the 'light weight' of the d2/ksports (last time i checked, lightweight was good, and ive never heard of any problem with the shock mount construction) as opposed to the MRs. Yet the fact that you HAD TO DREMEL THROUGH YOUR COILOVERS, didnt seem to bother you much?? Seriously, it sounds like you're getting paid to say half this b.s. Now, no doubt, the coilovers from MR are great (my friend has em, i helped put em on) and for the price, they are amazing. I dont have any real gripes about them, i just notice the differences. I purchased D2 coilovers a while back, and haven't had any problems with them since. Never had a problem with a 'cheap' dust cover, or bending shock mount from that 'aluminum cheapness'. And for the record, another friend of mine has SPLs on his s13 and they feel great, not too much different than my D2s, or the MRs, they're all damn near the same. The only problem i had with my d2s is that there isnt any 'clicks', that kinda sucks, ill admit that. But other than that, i love em.

[umsports]

He's not getting paid, I can assure you... I'm too broke to dish out any cash...lol...

[bing]

i have D2's and they went right in, no dremelling etc.

as for aluminum, has anyones aluminum perches fallen apart?

i like the D2's, just dont drive them in the winter is all, but that is true of all coilovers.

i also have megan products and i like them too. i will be dealing with them up in canada in the coming months with my buddy Varun and i hope they are easier to communicate wtih than D2 is.

that is the only gripe i have with D2, they dont have a north american entity that we can talk to about ordering and various other issues. makes things difficult for a user / seller.

hopefully megan will be better / easier to deal with.

[nlzmo400r]

i heard that d2 has a rebuilding site in the US now

[AzNCmB]

are the mr's inverted monotube design??

[95zilvia]

Damn, the Megan Racing coilovers have a big problem with coilover fitment issues as in, the wheels don't fit very good over them.
I'm having a lot of trouble clearing them with several rims.
My old rims used to clear most coilovers, now, they won't clear without probably a 8 or 10 mm spacer.
So, for everyone's information. Wheels have a big problem clearing Megan Racing coilovers.
I still never got the pictures up, sorry fellas.

[nlzmo400r]

Megan Racing has a monotube design, however its not inverted. The KTS are inverted shock design, which of course has its ups and downs.

[publicenemy137]

what are cons on the inverted shock design? Also I like my D2s, ride is pretty nice, handling superb. Right now they are making a loud noise though, don't know why. But D2 in taiwan is going to ship me a replacement for free, so customer service isn't that bad. K-sports, they won't have any customer service anymore, but D2 does.

[nlzmo400r]

the only downside to an inverted shock design is that it isnt a durable. It soaks up bumps better, and gives a little better feel/feedback, however because every bump has more of an impact on them, they tend to not last as long.

[98sr20ve]

the only downside to an inverted shock design is that it isnt a durable. It soaks up bumps better, and gives a little better feel/feedback, however because every bump has more of an impact on them, they tend to not last as long.

Not to my knowledge.

Inverted has big tube so it carries side loads better,
Has bigger seals around that bigger tube
As a result may have more stiction (bad word but basically, friction that causes the shock not to move on small impacts)
My Silkroads don't seem to have that issue at all. Very smooth when you move them with out a spring attached.

[publicenemy137]

I actually heard inverted shock design lasts longer and is more durable. Less bubbling of the oil inside the coilovers or something. Silk Roads and SPL KTS coilovers seem very similar, which is better?

[jOeHaCk98]

I hope I dont have issues with mine, but I did buy them a couple months ago for my s14. Does anyone have the measurement that the holes should be so I can measure mine and take it to a drill press before I have my car in pieces? Thanks.

[98sr20ve]

I like the camber adjustment on the silkroad. You can adjust it in two places at the hub and at the camber plate. I also like that you can use regular 2.5 ID springs on it. Don't know if you can use 2.5 i.d. springs on the SPL/KTS but SPL makes such a big deal about "only these springs" that it turns me off. I knew I was likely to swap springs so I went with the silkroad.

[98sr20ve]

I get a kick out of D2 and Megan Racing people. Drilling holes, clunking, Springs with no rates indicated on them, etc. If the company can't get the holes in the right spots then what makes you think the rest is done with any attention to detail. I guess I need to ride in a car with a pair but even if the rode well I would still pick a company that was know to try it's best to make a quality product. Not a company that tries to make a product as cheaply (cost wise) as possible.

[umsports]

The spring rates are 8 and 6...

In terms of wheels, make sure you are using RWD offset wheels... +30 or lower..

I just got a long email from a customer, probably the same one on here, complaining about wheel fitment...

Well, we talked and come to find out, he was using aftermarket FWD offset wheels!

GENIOUS!
:duh:

[umsports]

Guys the S14 bolt hole issue is fixed on the new coilovers they just received on their lastest shipment....So, no more worries..

This to me shows they are a good company, who cares about their customers..There are numerous online companies, such as certain bodykit manufacturers who could care less about product fitment...

The S13 ones have always fit perfect....

[95zilvia]

Guys the S14 bolt hole issue is fixed on the new coilovers they just received on their lastest shipment....So, no more worries..

This to me shows they are a good company, who cares about their customers..There are numerous online companies, such as certain bodykit manufacturers who could care less about product fitment...

The S13 ones have always fit perfect....
It wasn't me who emailed you, but damn, I feel that other guy complaining about the rim fitment, I tried a bunch, z32, advan model 7, work series 4, finally i just said fuck it, and used maxima rims with a 25 mm spacer cuz that's all i had, all i can say is, flush flush flush!

[jOeHaCk98]

was the 'new batch' distributed 2 months ago?

[umsports]

was the 'new batch' distributed 2 months ago?

No, unfortunately not..

[umsports]

Well guys, we are now a Zilvia sponsor....and we should see the banner up over the next few days...

I look forward to working with you all and hopefully bringing some more low prices your way..

[jOeHaCk98]

So can someone measure what the correct holes size should be before I have my car on blocks and find out then?

Thanks.

[UrbanImport]

I apologize for jumping into this thread but I just wanted to back up our position on issues that have come to light with our product.

At one point D2 switched manufacturers for some of the oils in the shock and so far all the shocks which have had excessive noise coming from them have been traced back to this manufacturing run. D2 has since switched back to the original supplier and all coilovers sold recently and any sold from now on should not experience this problem. Again I want to stress that this issue is not a problem with every D2 coilover sold, only some. It may not even affect all 4 coilovers, depending on the dampening it could just be your rear struts or just your front struts that are affected.

We have extra replacement struts on the way from D2. If you feel your coilovers might be affected by this you will (upon confirmation of defect) be eligible for replacements free of charge. We will also extend this offer through next winter to be sure that if your shocks are from the questionable batch you will be eligible for a replacement then even if they don't start acting up until that time. I would like to reiterate that this does not affect all shocks only a relatively small # of the overall coilovers in the US. If you feel that you are affected by this please call us AFTER FEB 1ST (we should have replacements by then) @ 919-383-5000.

Once again I apologize for jumping into the thread, I just wanted to take a chance to state our position.

-Michael
D2 Racing North America

[vegita319]

Wow, now thats the kind of customer support that a company should have. Backing up behind their product and not looking the other way when there's a problem and fixing it. Good Job D2.

[mr_240sx]

wow, thats awesome customer suport! I really liek it when a computer accepts a falt in their product and replaces it! Good job D2 for that!

[umsports]

Look for a Megan Racing full write-up from one of the guys from the board who just purchased a set...

He is installing them on his S13 drift car, and offered to do a installation guide with photos, etc....

These things are selling amazingly, which is no suprised...

I hope many will invest in these coilovers, they are a steal at $845...

[umsports]

D2 is great, but I dont think you are gonna see Megan have to go back and fix any mistakes...

[UrbanImport]

D2 is great, but I dont think you are gonna see Megan have to go back and fix any mistakes...

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest but just incase you haven't read this thread the Megan coilovers aren't flawless. There are a handful of Megan Racing Coilovers in the US compared to the hundreds of D2s, only a small percentage which we are having problems (although it is primarily 240SX and Maxima we are seeing the issues in). The D2s having issues were distributed before the Megan Coilovers were even released, hopefully no issues will come up with them in the future but I doubt you are willing to bet your life on it.

I don't have any personal experience with the Megan coilovers but they appear to be a nice setup, I look forward to seeing more reviews in the future and seeing how they hold up. I hope the people reading this thread make their decision in regards to what coilovers they buy based on what users have to say as opposed to what vendors think of each others products.

[Jeff240sx]

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest but just incase you haven't read this thread the Megan coilovers aren't flawless. There are a handful of Megan Racing Coilovers in the US compared to the hundreds of D2s, only a small percentage which we are having problems (although it is primarily 240SX and Maxima we are seeing the issues in). The D2s having issues were distributed before the Megan Coilovers were even released, hopefully no issues will come up with them in the future but I doubt you are willing to bet your life on it.

I don't have any personal experience with the Megan coilovers but they appear to be a nice setup, I look forward to seeing more reviews in the future and seeing how they hold up. I hope the people reading this thread make their decision in regards to what coilovers they buy based on what users have to say as opposed to what vendors think of each others products.

I agree here. Vendors propping the product more than owner testimonials is a bad idea, but what UMsports posted was definately a faux pas. Saying "I dont think you are gonna see Megan have to go back and fix any mistakes" is bad, especially to me. They messed up the mount spacing by 1/4" or so on the S14 coils. This required my time to rectify and make useable, because previously I owned $800 worth of useless tubes. Now, upon realizing their error, they fixed this issue for the next shipment, however, won't send out the correct mounts. If it were my company (or any of the headlights I sell), I would definately send replacements once I found out the issue.
-Jeff

[publicenemy137]

hey urbanimport do we have to send our coilovers to D2 first before we get em? I'd hate to have a month's downtime on my car

[umsports]

The only issue was on the S14 coils, where the mount spacing was off and could be easily fixed with 5 minutes worth of work...

The new S14 coils, which are just in, have this issue fixed and as far as I know, fit flawlessly...

I am waiting to hear back from another Zilvia member who will be receiving the new S14 coils this week...

And in terms of having the correct mounts replaced, I will let Calvin at Megan Racing make that call...

He is extremely proud of his product line and I will assure you, is aiming to keep the Zilvia crowd pleased..

I would call him on a case-by-case basis...

He only ordered 25 sets of S14 coils on his first order, so we are talking a very few number to fix..

Chris

[andrewrr]

Jeff, do you have anymore updates on these coilovers? I'm going to go ahead and purchase them within the next few days after i have a chat with Chris about them. i'd just like to make sure these struts have made a good impression on people and are of the same quality as BCEC, as many people in new zealand have those and they are VERY quality.

they will be on my car, an 89 nissan laurel rb20det. it is only used on track and once a month on road if i'm lucky, so i need a stiff and reliable setup, not too worried about comfort. just want to know how they hold up to the likes of silkroads/buddyclub and other track-oriented platform suspension.

cheers

[sr20dets13]

just to add to the responses.. i have owned a pair of kts coilovers for about 5 months now, and can 100% say these are a very strong strong shock. with my own tests done on them (2 curbs at over 30mph without a tweek) ride is wonderful, and like stated in past post "even my girlfriend can enjoy the ride" i really wish they could have been in the comparison but i understand they are going up in price, i paid 1070 or something for spl parts when i purchased these they have went up almost 150. which i still would pay for if i was in the market for a coilover setup.

on the other hand my good buddy into drifting like me just installed a brand new pair of mr on his s13, fit well and rides just as well as the kts.. when i did my own comparison of the coils they look very similar in structual rigidity.. and the dampening adjustments can be felt.. first night out the car was having some pretty good understeering issues soo we tightend up the rear alittle and loosed up the front and voilaa! oversteer was way better! i know this isnt much but i am telling you (as a person scared to pay for crap) that i wouldnt hesitate to purchase these coils

umsports you might remember talking to my buddy he has a red hatchback, names andrew. he is 100% pleased with his coilovers and says they were worth every penny!

[andrewrr]

i was looking around at some NZ sites and found this http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~owhat/Technical/Suspension_Upgrade/suspension_upgrade.html its an install of BC racing coilovers into a nissan laurel, which has same suspension as S13.

[Jeff240sx]

No shock dyno seeing as Alex wrecked his car at an event.
-Jeff

[Grumly2000]

Hello,

I received and install my MR Racing Coilover (Spring Rate 8/6).
Mines need to be modified (at front on the bracket) because they're build in november.

It seems very good parts; and specialy for money :)

My damping setup is 4-4 for front and rear. Sometimes it's a little bit so stiff :/
Girlfriend's boobs bounce :D :lol:
Can you post your setup of damping rate please?

I also have a question, I'm not interested about drop height.
Dis someone know the maximum lenght for coilover as picture show? For front and rear? I don't want to twist the coilover on a jump or a hard drive :o

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6586/mrcoiloverrearsilvia5zb.jpg
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/2471/mrcoiloverfrontsilvia1tc.jpg

other pictures:
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/5149/mrcoiloverfrontsilviacaliper8l.jpg
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/618/mrcoiloverfrontsilviaheightset.jpg

And last question when I received my coilovers this nut was unscrew and the roller(?) can be removed :eek:
I screw the nut with damping rate at the maximum soft. Did I broke something? :/
http://img174.exs.cx/img174/1903/mrcoiloverfrontsilviapillowbal.jpg

[98sr20ve]

Measure the diameter of the strut itself (threaded portion) and then make sure you have at least that amount inside the part that it screws into. Sometimes you will find a small hole at that depth. If you stick a pin thru the hole it should hit the strut.

[95zilvia]

i have my front set at 16, feels softer than setting it at 1(softest), at least more comfortable.

the rears, i set it to somewhere i the middle as well.

try setting it at 16 for the front, it makes the ride really nice... its weird

[slide]

ok let me rephrase.. would YOU rather get the mr coilovers or pay the extra $$ and get the kts coilovers


also what is the max heights (maximum drop and maximum raise) on the mr coilovers.

[AzNCmB]

:confused: kts are inverted monotube design and mr's are not..... mr's are 32 way damper adjustable( i believe) and kts are 16 way(i believe), they both have 8/6kg spring rates and the mr's have the brake line bracket and kts dont..... ugh.... o yea... kts have rebuild service for a good low price and i THINK mr dont....

i'm also looking for coilovers, i'm debating on which one of these I should get also... :confused: :confused:

[Grumly2000]

Measure the diameter of the strut itself (threaded portion) and then make sure you have at least that amount inside the part that it screws into. Sometimes you will find a small hole at that depth. If you stick a pin thru the hole it should hit the strut.
:tweak:
I'm sorry but I'm not english fluent. Well I don't understand what you mean
Can you please :repost: and re-phrase? :cool:

[Grumly2000]

question about fitment, will they clear stock Se wheels/ and or / z32 wheels?

Hey GRUMLY2000, do those stock 16" mags clear the front coilovers??? I just bought a set off of chris, and will be installing them on my Laurel when i get back to new zealand. i use the 16's for road use(legal) and have 17's with spacers(illegal and dangerous) for track, so i need to make sure the stock mags will fit. thanks for the pics, looks great.

I'll post my install info when i put them in, as i'm sure nobody else has put them in a Laurel yet!
Ok.
I have a French Silvia S14 Spec (200SX in France)
stock with SR20DET and front 300ZX calliper (4 valves).
And I know that in the USA yours 240SX don't use this callipers.

I use stock 16" as pictured and I had no problem with MR coilover, for daily use and track use. :2f2f:

Compared to standard height, my S14 is F/R -30/-20 mm. May be if choose a more agressive drop height like -60mm is it possible that tire touch mcpherson arm in curve, be aware. :-/

[98sr20ve]

:tweak:
I'm sorry but I'm not english fluent. Well I don't understand what you mean
Can you please :repost: and re-phrase? :cool:

Common practice of knowing if the bolt extends far enough into a item is this. If the bolt is 12mm then it should extend into the item (or in this case lower part of the strut/piece that attaches to the knuckle) the same distance. SO what you do is take a tape measure and measure the diameter of the lower threaded shaft. Lets say its 1.5 inch's (for discussion sake). Then all you have to do is make sure you insert that theaded shaft into the lower part of the shock 1.5 inchs. If its 1.75 then it goes in 1.75 inches.

[andrewrr]

well, i paid for my coilovers on monday, and they arrived wednesday morning, very fast shipping! paid 890 with shipping from chris at undergroundmotorsport.com , thanks for the help.

from the looks of them, they are very quality, and come with hardware (new strut top nuts, c-spanners, and alan key), a sticker (woohoo), diagram of all parts, information pamphlet, and warranty card. on the rear struts, there is a pinhole about 1 3/8" down from the top and another hole down near the bottom mount. the threaded shaft is 2" wide, so i'm not sure why it's safe to put it up to 1 3/8 of thread? but who wants to raise their car up off-roader stylez anyways? all of the pilo plates are very tight and have smooth operation, the adjusters have a little silver locking mechanism below them that prevents the adjuster from falling out, so i guess you could take them out if you dont want someone f'ing with your setup? the adjuster actually has noticeable clicks, unlike d2/ksport where you have no idea what your damping rate is.

I'll be installing these once i get back to new zealand on the 12th, if all goes well i'll put a review up at the end of next month. only reason i do this is to either warn people about the quality or praise it (which is what im hoping), seeing as they are a new product. although, they do come labeled as the VH design coilover, with a product sheet straight from BC racings catalog :)

some pics of my set for s13
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/megan3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/megan2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/megan1.jpg

[Rownan]

Also got mine, S14 model. These coilovers are wonderful construction, every detail looks great. It is killing me to see them sitting there but I won't be putting them on till spring......

http://home.comcast.net/~rownan01/onlinestorage/megan-box.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~rownan01/onlinestorage/megan-coilovers.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~rownan01/onlinestorage/megan-camber.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~rownan01/onlinestorage/megan-bracket.JPG

BTW people were asking about weight before, the whole box weighed in at 47 lbs.

[danew604]

um if its steel welded wouldnt it rust after awhile? i know that there is the rust protection coating... but if rocks and stuff hits it and chips that layer off then its basically steel... can someone answer this question if these are still good coilovers if they rust after sometime?

[95zilvia]

damn, looks like they changed the stickers on the tubes, dont remember mine having the hologram shiny diff. color thingie.

[umsports]

where are you guys purchasing these from? How much approximately? thanks

They are purchasing them through myself at www.undergroundmotorsports.com

I'd love to sell you a set, so place your order....

[AzNCmB]

I would also like to know if there is the option of z32 rear brackets and rebuilding service..

thanks

[umsports]

$890 shipped...

UPDATE:

For all you cheap guys on here, Calvin called me yesterday and is clearancing the old S14 coilovers that require the dremel mod....

$750 shipped on the old S14 coils...!

Take care!

[AzNCmB]

$890 shipped...

UPDATE:

For all you cheap guys on here, Calvin called me yesterday and is clearancing the old S14 coilovers that require the dremel mod....

$750 shipped on the old S14 coils...!

Take care!


WHAT!!!?? 750 SHIPPED?? how many do you have left instock?? I'm waiting for my student loan to come in and I would like to get them...

Thanks

[umsports]

Yes, that's the only problem...

But because they have the defect, I am going to loose money to simply clearance them...

They do have a 2 year warranty through the manufacturer...

and they have to be sent overseas for repair, there is no domestic rebuild service...

[EvaPrototype]

I just got mine today, they look great. Chris also went out of his way to contact me (most shippers would just wait until I complained) when there was a small issue with shipping. A++ to Chris & UM. :)

I'll try to get some pics up as soon as I get them installed.

[umsports]

Thanks man!

Glad to see you got them...

Look for a new street spec series to be released soon....

No more information available yet, but they wont be designed for the drag racing/drifting applications...

[bleach8484]

What is the spring rate for the S14? Im too lazy to read all the pages

[umsports]

8/6 is the spring rate.....

[homeade]

Just got them. I've had a set of Bilstein PSS9's before for my VW, and they cost twice as much as these did. I figured it was name brand so it had to be great right? Well, I can honestly say these coils (Megan) look like twice the coilovers my Bilsteins were. Really awesome looking product and really well built.
For "cheap" coilovers, they're not very cheap at all.

[98sr20ve]

Yep, we all know that looks is what you are spending the money on with Coilovers.

[gfisch]

Sweet, just got mine.

Hey, Just thought of something and was looking for an opinion...

If I drill the hole a little larger, that part of the hole will be bare metal. Will it rust if I don't treat it w/ something? If so, what do you recommend covering it with? Think touch-up paint would be good enough??

[andrewrr]

i just called up megan about the warranty, as i will be using these overseas. apparently the warranty only covers defects up to the point of install, anything past that is not covered by them. they also have no idea who can rebuild or service the shocks. kind of a weird 2year warranty isn't it?

ah well, they seem like good products, and a mate of mine works at this suspension shop called SAS, and they rebuild BC racing (full stripdown) for $100 a corner. he tells me they can go for about 35,000k before one would start leaking, and has heard nothing but good remarks on them.

i'm happy with my purchase :)

[EvaPrototype]

I put mine on tonight...I have honda wheels (5zigen wheels 17X7.5 +43) and the rears fit perfect, the fronts needed a 5mm spacer. They feel great so far. Thumbs up to MR and UM.

[octane103]

seems like all the copycat companies like to manufacture a similar product so they can take advantage of a larger companies marketing. fortunately if you do some research, you will find that MR & BC coilovers are the same, but niether of them have anything to do with the real buddyclub (besides making a similar looking product).



http://img171.exs.cx/img171/2471/mrcoiloverfrontsilvia1tc.jpg

http://www.first-inc.co.jp/buddyclub/specdamper/images/rs01.jpg

http://www.first-inc.co.jp/buddyclub/specdamper/images/top.jpg

http://www.first-inc.co.jp/buddyclub/specdamper/images/rs03.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~rownan01/onlinestorage/megan-coilovers.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~rownan01/onlinestorage/megan-camber.JPG

[AzNCmB]

Look for a Megan Racing full write-up from one of the guys from the board who just purchased a set...

He is installing them on his S13 drift car, and offered to do a installation guide with photos, etc....

These things are selling amazingly, which is no suprised...

I hope many will invest in these coilovers, they are a steal at $845...


any updates on the guy with the s13 drift car and the installation guide? Chris, what coilovers do you have on your rb s14?

[AzNCmB]

um if its steel welded wouldnt it rust after awhile? i know that there is the rust protection coating... but if rocks and stuff hits it and chips that layer off then its basically steel... can someone answer this question if these are still good coilovers if they rust after sometime?


hmmm....i was reading some of the pages and I was wondering this also? chris, can you find out if they are mild steel or not?

thanks

[AzNCmB]

Installed them tuesday!!! took 3 hours total including time for drilling and messing around with hieght...i couldn't compare these with my friend's kts coilovers because we both had to go to work for 3pm.... sorry guys :(

here's some pics...tires are 235/4017 front wheels are 17x8 35+ offset and rears are mustang cobra's 17x9 24+offset and i'm running 20 for the damping rate...feels nice!
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/5403/b4after3xs.th.jpg (http://img216.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img216&image=b4after3xs.jpg)
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/8577/resized14ei.th.jpg (http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=resized14ei.jpg)
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/1773/resized22zg.th.jpg (http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=resized22zg.jpg)
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/165/resized38yh.th.jpg (http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=resized38yh.jpg)
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/5885/resized43yb.th.jpg (http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=resized43yb.jpg)
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/1629/resized51kp.th.jpg (http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=resized51kp.jpg)
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/1966/resized68ez.th.jpg (http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=resized68ez.jpg)

hope ya like it and chris...i have lots of pics if you want some...i'll email them 2 ya...just let me know

thanks again

[TUnity2]

Installed them tuesday!!! took 3 hours total including time for drilling and messing around with hieght...i couldn't compare these with my friend's kts coilovers because we both had to go to work for 3pm.... sorry guys :(

here's some pics...tires are 235/4017 front wheels are 17x8 35+ offset and rears are mustang cobra's 17x9 24+offset and i'm running 20 for the damping rate...feels nice!
[URL=http://img216.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img216&image=b4after3xs.jpg][IMG]

hope ya like it and chris...i have lots of pics if you want some...i'll email them 2 ya...just let me know

thanks again
i saw it at the Delta auto cross. lookin nice dude.

[pay2play]

when you are adusting the dampening knob either harder or softer is there a stopping point that you will hit when you reach absolute hard or soft. I can turn mine what seems 32 clicks but it will keep spinning. Now I have no idea what level i am at because i have no reference point, like 1-hardest, 32-softest. I dont want to screw anything up.

[xnissans14x]

Yes it will actually stop, don't force it. Make sure you tighten the nut below the knob.

[pay2play]

Yes it will actually stop, don't force it. Make sure you tighten the nut below the knob.

Appreciate it man

[pay2play]

DAMN I just tried what xnissans14x said and turned the dampening knob to see if it would stop. And I think I turned the knob 50+ times and it never stopped, no resistance, nothing. Am I doing it right? Just pull the knob up and turn it a little and let it fall back into place. Each time it falls in to place is one click right...one level? I should only be able to this 32 times right? All 4 of my coils do this not just one so I guess it has to be something I am doing.

[umsports]

Guys, beginning March 1, the MR's will be $899 plus $45 shipping...

I am trying to price these to a minimum, to keep saving you guys money....Which I hope you can appreciate...

The S14 coils that require mods will still be sold at $750 until all the remaining sets are sold...These wont last more than another week as there are only 3-5 sets at most left in stock...

[neilio85]

Whats the reason for the price increase? I am looking at buying these, but just have to wait to receive a money order that should be coming in soon. Let me know if they would still be available for 850 a little bit after march 1st.

[umsports]

I was notified by Megan Racing tonight by email that the price was going up $50 across the board to every dealer on these coilovers beginning 3/1/05...

I'm guessing Currency exchange rates, change of shipping companies they use? It could be many things, I dont have a definate answer...

But $50 isnt going to break the bank guys... Especially on the quality of these coilovers for the money...

My offer stands:

I GUARANTEE THE LOWEST PRICE YOU WILL FIND, THIS IS MY PROMISE....

WE WILL MATCH ALL AUTHORIZED DEALERS ADVERTISED PRICING....

[andrewrr]

you could always spend $400 more on the same items with an APEXI badge on it:
http://www.ravspec.com/pdetails.asp?itemID=10243

i've seen a few other companies with the same struts labeled differently on jap sites, seems they "get around". but if apexi uses them, they must be good.

[umsports]

It is true, that they are labeled by several other JDM names...

It is really a steal what you all are paying for them....

I'm selling them slightly over cost, and by the time I take out the Paypal fees, you guys are basically getting them at dealer cost...

They are an awesome coilover, and I hope everyone that has them enjoys them...

The D1GP guys were shocked, and several of the Japanese drivers couldnt believe the pricing when it was told to them...

I think they are only going to get more popular over the next several months...

[Ian]

i wanna see a megan racing sponsored D1 car from JAPAN...then i'll be convinced


but until then...i donnoo

[Ritz S14]

By the time that happens.. You'll be paying $1100+ :keke: Instead of the $750 for a simple fix of the defect kit.

[umsports]

They are one of the major sponsors of the D1GP this year.....and they did sponsor one of the Japanese cars, although I'm not sure what suspension was being ran on the drift car....

[Ian]

hm...i'm kinda interested in ordering...can we do 750 shipped?

[umsports]

You can do $899 plus $45 shipping like everyone else....and in exchange I'll ship you a set of coilovers.... :loco:

[Ian]

well i meant for a defective set, since you said there were a few left


and i wasnt sure if htat was 750 before or after shipping...which is why i asked if we can do 750 shipped...

[umsports]

I'm messing with you man, lol....

Yeah, It's $750 shipped!

I have a few sets left in stock, but hopefully they will be sold out by the weekend...

send payment to [email protected]

I will get them out tomorrow!

Take care!

Chris

[Ian]

i dont know if i'll be able to make the payment on these, just because of lack of funds, tomorrow i'll be going thru some financial stuff and i'll see where i stand. I'll get back to you ASAP

[Ritz S14]

Ok.. I just got mine in. But ughhh there are no spanner wrenches??? The box looked like it was kicked around..and barely held on with any tape.. what's going on here... ?

[Rownan]

Ok.. I just got mine in. But ughhh there are no spanner wrenches??? The box looked like it was kicked around..and barely held on with any tape.. what's going on here... ?

Try calling MR...

[Ritz S14]

Before
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1137copy.jpg
After
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1143copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1144copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1147copy.jpg
Gab&Eibach Vs. Megan Racing
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1142copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/900d8cd7.jpg

About an inch lower, I'll lower it more later.. Took about an hour to install..and yeah the holes were off..

[umsports]

Smog Tech, could you make a post about what you had to do on the $750 defective coilovers?

I know there are several that would like to know....

This applies to anybody who has purchased them?

They must not be too hard to fix, because I haven't gotten any complaints....

P.S.- Your car is hot man!

[Ritz S14]

I really suck at writeups, but I'll try.

Installing defective Megan Racing Coilovers 101:

The defective front coilovers have one misaligned hole, for me it happened to be the bottem of the two knuckle holes. At first, I thought you had to make the holes bigger, which was half right. When you take the knuckle bolt with the coilovers off, it wont go in. So what you'd have to do is take the bolt, slide it in the hole and move it around to break off the paint which makes the hole a tad bit smaller so the bolt wont slide in. Once tha'ts complete the paint breaks off and you're able to slide the bolt through the hole. Now the bolt well go all the way through once you've done this on both coilovers. So I figured that was the only dumb thing that went wrong.. And why did Jeff240sx make such a fuss about this stuff? Well, as I was installing the front C/Os it turned out to be more than just paint blocking the bolt from going in. I installed the top bolt first(after installing the three on the pillow mounts) and couldn't get the second bolt in at a straight angle. So I had to notch the bottem of the hole. All you need is a round file and 10 minutes per side(depends how fast you go). Once you have that done, the bolt should go in freely. But since the coilover is shorter, it's pretty difficult to raise the spindle to the coilover. So I had to place a jack under the Lower Control Arm(LCA) with a piece of wood on top to lift up the knuckl assemly. Top bolt went in flawlessly, second bolt needed to be worked alil bit, make sure you push/pull the knuckle assembly to get the holes aligned. You can tap the bolt in or turn it clockwise so it threads itself in. There you have it, coilovers installed nicely upfront.

Rear install is pretty tricky if you do i yourself, ifyou have two people.. it's CAKE.

First, you put down the rear seats. Second, the speaker cover pulls upward(just tug it), and the clips will release. There are two 12mm bolts holding the shock assembly. You will need a 12mmDEEP socket, and a 3" extension, nothing larger, which will give you just enough room so you don't bang on the window. Once you have the 2 bolts on each side removed, you can go under the car and remove a 17mm bolt holding the shock up. Once that is off, you can pull the shock off with force or you can tap it gently with a mallet(pulling the shock off with force can cause you to hit your head or loose your balance, so I suggest a mallet). Now that the shock is off you should be able to manuever it so that the top part of the shock assembly comes out of the upper fender well.

Here is the tricky part. If you're by yourself.. You place the pillow mount in the shock tower, and you let the bottem of the shock sit on the knuckle.. carefully climb in the car, and gently install the bolts wich attaches the pillow mount on the shock tower. If you have two people, you can just have the other person hold the C/O while you tighten the bolts on the inside. Do that on both sides, reinstall the 17mm bolt on the bottem(the washer faces outward like "(" ). You just need some muscel to lift up the rear brake assembly which isn't too hard..cause I did it myself.. 6'1 150lbs..yeah I'm a twig.

So there you have it. I left the height the way they it was, since I don't have any spanner wrenches(must have fell out of the box during shpment, cause it was beatup) to fine tune the system. Ride is a bit bumpier, handles well, braking has improved due to stiffer springs which I noticed immediately.

Just some notes.
Spring rate are 8kg/6kg and 56 is what you multiply the numbers by to get pounds. 448/336. 448lbs is what it takes for the FRONT springs to be compressed ONE inch. 336lbs is what it takes the REAR springs to compress ONE inch. They're also a LINEAR type spring, which means that they compress evenly with weight..meaning for every 1x force it goes down 1". PROGRESSIVE springs like my eibach rear(maybe front to, but they don't seem like it), the spring compresses at a different rate.. something like every 1xforce it compreses 1", then 2xforce, it compreses 1.5".. not exact but that's the concept.

There you have it. :)

I e-mailed MR about the spanner prolbem, they said they'll send me some as soon as they get some.

EDIT:

This is where you would drill, but on the other side(for me at least)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/Untitled-1.jpg

[xnissans14x]

Smog Tech that was a great write up. Yeah the fix for the defective coilovers was really easy. I got a grinding bit from Home Depot for my impact gun. It only took around 2-3 minutes to do both holes. Very easy. I'm very happy with my purchase.
Chris I will try to post up pics after I get a chance to wash my car. Its all gloomy and rainy where I'm at. After looking at Smog Tech's pics of his car, it makes me not want to post pics of my ugly car. But oh well.

[umsports]

We're not laughing at you, we're laughing with you....JK....

POST THOSE PICS!

[DORIMON]

I got mine yesterday, they are awesome. Right now, I'm just messing around with the damper settings to find a good daily driving setting and setting I can get used to at the drift practices, overall high-quality at a good price. Thanks a lot umsports.

[AzNCmB]

I got mine yesterday, they are awesome. Right now, I'm just messing around with the damper settings to find a good daily driving setting and setting I can get used to at the drift practices, overall high-quality at a good price. Thanks a lot umsports.


witht he suckie asss streets in new orleans, I keep mine at 20 on all 4 corners and it feels great!... although all i have to compare to the ride is the stock suspension that I had before the mr install...

[Grumly2000]

witht he suckie asss streets in new orleans, I keep mine at 20 on all 4 corners and it feels great!... although all i have to compare to the ride is the stock suspension that I had before the mr install...

Hi mates :hello:

Can I propose that everybody gives his damping setup? :)

Personally I use (with 1=Soft 32=Hard)
Front: 6
Rear: 7

[AzNCmB]

Personally I use (with 1=Soft 32=Hard)
Front: 6
Rear: 7


Why did yo use 1=soft and 32=hard? The description that came with the mr coilovers states that
1-8= suggest for race/track use
9-16= suggest for mountain/anfractuosity use
17-32= suggest for street use

so 1= hardest and 32= softest.....please don't confuse us... :tweak:

thanks....post ur setup guys...

[Grumly2000]

Why did yo use 1=soft and 32=hard? ...

Very easy to understand.

Question: How do you set up your damping?
Answer: You "unscrew" the damper to start from the softer position.
Then you "screw" the damper and count the "clik" to obtain the good dampig rate.
It's the Tein procedure and the only good procedure.

Basicly why do you want to make a subtraction of a value when you've got direct reading ??? :stupid:

Anyway if you tell what is your repository I don't see any kind of problems ;)

[Ritz S14]

Very easy to understand.

Question: How do you set up your damping?
Answer: You "unscrew" the damper to start from the softer position.
Then you "screw" the damper and count the "clik" to obtain the good dampig rate.
It's the Tein procedure and the only good procedure.

Basicly why do you want to make a subtraction of a value when you've got direct reading ??? :stupid:

Anyway if you tell what is your repository I don't see any kind of problems ;)

What is wrong with you? You don't have to subtract. Just count the X amount of clicks you turn it clockwise from stiff, and you're set.

[Grumly2000]

Smog Tech cool :coolugh:
You don't know think different think Grumly? :D

1-8= suggest for race/track use
9-16= suggest for mountain/anfractuosity use
17-32= suggest for street use
1= hardest and 32= softest


Grumly setup is:
Front : 26
Rear: 25

AzNCmB setup is:
Front: 20
Rear: 20


...

[andrewrr]

I installed the coilovers last week on my 89 nissan Laurel with rb20det. took about 1.5 hours because i had to slot the holes on my rear strut bar to accomodate the larger strut top nuts and that took me about 35 minutes with a file :( . i just jacked the whole car up, put it on stands, and then used a jack under the lower control arms to lift the lower mounts up so i could install the shorter coilover units. very easy install if you don't have a home-made rear strut brace.

for the laurel, the front was wayyyyy lower than the rear, as they are heavier in the front than a silvia. but it still sits better than it did with spring/shock combo. I will get around to adjusting it when i have time. I've played with damper settings and currently have it at 10 front, 7 rear, and the ride is great and handles awesome, albeit it is abit rough on the old new zealand road surfaces. i currently have 17x7.5" mags on the rear and stock 15x6" mags up front as i just sold my other set of 17's as i'm upgrading to 5stud next week, so i'll mess around with settings after that.

heres some pics of the install:

clearance on the front with stock 15x6" mags, plenty of room.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/DVC00126.jpg

front tophats from in engine bay
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/DVC00125.jpg

front install pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/DVC00124.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/DVC00119.jpg

rear tophat from inside trunk
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/DVC00121.jpg

rear install
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/andrewrr/DVC00120.jpg

they just look so much more BLING than my old ones!! :)

[umsports]

Their a beauty!....Congrats guys on your setups....I really appreciate the pic and help you've given to the other members...Makes my life easier..

Take care and send me your orders if you need a set...

Chris

[devonkyle77]

can you do s14 front and z32 rear coilovers for guys with z32 rear uprights? or first off..does megan even make z32 coilovers? thanks

[umsports]

Nope, cant mix and match....

P.S.- Guys it appears my UM Sports email address isnt working with our server....

so temporarily send all emails to [email protected] this is my personal email address..

Thanks!

[devonkyle77]

would these compare to the silkroad a8?

[umsports]

Yes, these would easily compare to the SilkRoads...

[MikeFD3S]

perhaps they are made in the same factory too

haha

[umsports]

Shh.....we gotta keep the prices down on these....

But from what I have been told, its the same manufacturer....

[Ian]

got mine today, they look pretty solid

they're going in this coming week. gotta do that drilling thing, although i cant figure out which hole is "defective", gotta get the time to check it out

[Ritz S14]

If you make the bottem fit in smoothly..then you have to drill out the bottem of the top ones. I wonder if the apex evc c/os have this problem????

[Ian]

lol i think it was just this batch of MRs...cuz not all of them are like that too

[Ian]

hey i donno if anyone posted this yet, but i just put mine in today, and the rear dampening adjustment screw will not stop turning in any direction for me...i even counted off 32 in one direction to see if it was just me being impatient...it dosent stop turning.

anyone got words of wisdom for me?

[95zilvia]

Update.
Megan Racing Coilovers = Apexi N1 EXV.




oh btw, taiwan rules the world.

[umsports]

What is happening is several of the Japanese companies have had 10-15 year agreements with several China/Taiwan based companies to only produce for them...

This year, there are a few Japanese companies who are going to be left trying to find new manufacturers as these China/Taiwan companies are hoping to sell directly to the USA...

Look for many great bargains coming later this fall, it's gonna be exciting...

[Ian]

ok when i am adjusting the coilovers, do i need to pull the knob up and then turn it and drop it down? or do i just turn the knob? cuz it dosent seem to wanna turn unless i do the former.

i'm kinda confused lol

[umsports]

It's time to let the cat out of the bag...

I have said the MR coilovers are resold by several brands, and rebadged by many of the JDM brands...

I'll let you guys put 2 and 2 together...

Apexi N1 coilovers: $2500
MR's: $900
Saving $1600 on the same coilover: Priceless.....

http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexn1.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexn12.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexin13.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexin14.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexin15.jpg

[Ian]

ok i'm a dumbass, i got it now


also, the ExV's are not 2500

[Ritz S14]

So what ahppeend mainevent?

[Ian]

i just didnt have the nut under the adjustment knob tightened down, adn i was doing the wrong thing. I got it all worked out now


my settings are at 4f 4r but i think it's a little soft...i may adjust the preload a little and bump my front up to 2 and my rear to 3.

[Ritz S14]

Glad to know things are going well for you. It's not your fault that it came loose.. I'd probably be upset if the same thing happened to me too. But right now err mine are at 5 and 5.. it's not bone jarring.. the fronts have about 1/4 of a finger gap, rears have zero. I couldn't get the rear tires to tuck with the bottem adjust ment all the way up, so I lowered the upper perch about an inch. it rub a dub dubs.. and I have to take up inclines at a straight or I'll get stuck with a peg leg in the air :( hah all good though.. I need LSD fast.

Is it safe to lower the spring perch? Seems like it would decrease the life of the shock.

[240sxislander]

Why would you want to go higher?

[Ritz S14]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1184.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/PICT1187.jpg

[Yoshi]

Why would you want to go higher?

because unlike most of you that are blessed with at least semi-decent roads, I live in a place where when they made the roads (back in the 40's-60's) there were no good civil engineering rules that were followed as a policy, effectively creating ridiculously curved surfaces for water run off, coupled with curbs that are WAY too high and WAY too steep. My current coilovers are about 1" lower than stock, and I have had to redo the undercoat on my frame rails once already, as well as repair a broken weld on my exhaust because of high centering on all these crappy curbs. no wonder the majority of eastern WA drives subies and SUVs/Trucks :( My town HATES lowered vehicles.

Hence my question: Can the ride height be set to stock height? (or at least close?) Obviously I can lower it for track days, but I need the height to get back home :(

[AzNCmB]

hey guys, I've had the coilovers installed for at least a month and some weeks now....I'm from new orleans and just came back from a dailydrifter.com drift event in houston.... the coilovers were hella nice... although this was my 1st legal drift/practice, I didnt do too well..

I just wanted to let you guys know that i drove around 200 daily miles total since the install(estimated) + 700 miles roundtrip from nola to htown and back = the I've had no problems with the coilovers.... settings are currently -3 camber up front, damping 20 up front and 15 in the rear....

[umsports]

Hence my question: Can the ride height be set to stock height? (or at least close?) Obviously I can lower it for track days, but I need the height to get back home :(

Yes, you could easily put it to stock ride height, not a problem...

[Catalan]

Could you post pics on the two coilovers next to each other, MR and Apexi EXV, just want to see the comparison of the two if they truly are the same coilover just rebadged. Looking to purchase a pair so I'm a bit curious. Also the EXV are about $1200.

[umsports]

http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/damper%20kit%20IV%20500.jpg

http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexn1.jpg

http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/damper%20kit%20V%20x500.jpg

http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/apexin13.jpg

If that doesnt prove it, nothing will....

[Ian]

why would anyone bother to buy the regular ones when there are "defects" left?


they literally took 5 minutes a side w/ a dremel and a cutting bit...here's how to do it


install just as usual

insert top knuckle bolt

line up lower hole and dremel that bitch out right then and there

insert lower knuckle bolt

fin.

[umsports]

I'm gonna have to agree, it takes literally 5 minutes...

We only have a few sets left of those however...so feel free to get those orders in...

[TK]

[IMG]
If that doesnt prove it, nothing will....


hey, if you're going to use my pics to help you sell coilovers... at least let me know before hand

[umsports]

These pics were sent to me from a local guy in the Drift Scene here in Nashville, TN...

I have his permission to use him...But if they belong to you, and you can prove it, then I will gladly remove them or give you credit for the photos...

[Ian]

who cares? those are readily available images of non-personal items on the internet


they're the same as if i had taken them or if Apex'i sent them.


if they were your car w/ your plates, or your face, it'd be different...it's not like he's distributing false info or anything

[TK]

These pics were sent to me from a local guy in the Drift Scene here in Nashville, TN... who claims they are his photos taken in his bedroom...

I have his permission to use him...But if they belong to you, and you can prove it, then I will gladly remove them or give you credit for the photos...

so either you're lying or he is, if a guy truly did tell you that, that forget i even mentioned it and i can drop it..


mainevent212, its the same thing as people saying that someone on ebay is using their pics to sell a product...

i have nothin against umsports and i hope he continues to sell more coilovers... hell almost any coilover is better then having lowered springs with stiff spring rates and the crappy shocks they offer for our cars nowadays ;)

[umsports]

The guy posts on Zilvia I believe....I could just about swear he said the pictures belong to him....either way, I apologize for the mishap as its pretty apparent the pics are yours...

If you want me to remove them I can, but I dont want to ruin this thread with 2 pages of chat over some pics I used....

Just PM me, no need to keep this conversation going for the masses to have to filter through...

[umsports]

It's the same damn coilover, so that would be ludacris....but I have seen dumber things I guess..

They have been out since October, right after NOPI Nationals...

[Catalan]

So when the struts blow who do you send the coilovers to? Btw, does anyone have any pics of these coilovers on s13's?

[Refill]

It's time to let the cat out of the bag...

I have said the MR coilovers are resold by several brands, and rebadged by many of the JDM brands...

I'll let you guys put 2 and 2 together...

Apexi N1 coilovers: $2500
MR's: $900
Saving $1600 on the same coilover: Priceless.....


http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hopup1/apcon1exvni2.html
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hopup1/apn1prodani2.html

They're Apexi N1 EXV, Not Apexi N1 Pro, big difference in coilovers, and in price.

N1 Pros are also made in Japan.

[Catalan]

Noticed on the front page it says the coilovers are $899 + $45 shipping, but when you click on the coilovers it takes you to another page that says it's $845 + $45 shipping. I would also like to know who I would send the coilovers to for repairs.

[umsports]

MeganRacing.com, that is who....

The coilovers are $899+$45 shipping...

I will check into the HTML on the website to make sure their isnt a glitch...

[Ian]

i'll admit, the MR's are not the most comfortable coilover. but for 750 shipped, i have no room to whine. They're stiff, when i turn there's damn near no body roll (did i mention my dampening settings are 2/4? lol) when i pull into my driveway, my inside rear tire lifts off the ground and if i go too slow i get stuck...

job done. if i had 2000 dollars to spend, i woulda gotten some sick GPsports, Cusco, Zeal...you get the point

but i had 750...so this is what i have, and i'm damn happy with them.

[Ritz S14]

Shit I got stuck earlier today at 8am..climbing over the ramp to get to work. I got stuck with a peg leg in the air till I gassed the shit out of my car to unstick myself.

ANy coilovers will get your ass stuck.. if you don't have lsd. Mine are almost at full stiff..and it's not that bad.

[Ian]

well that's what im saying. They perform all of the basic functions of a coilover setup. They're not the BEST but they work. and for 750, what can you HONESTLY expect?

[umsports]

Make sure everyone knows, you bought the S14 MR's that require the mod, which I sell for $750 shipped...

[Catalan]

MeganRacing.com, that is who....

The coilovers are $899+$45 shipping...

I will check into the HTML on the website to make sure their isnt a glitch...

Do they have a facility in the US I can send the coilovers to or is it Taiwan only?

[umsports]

Calvin just orders the needed parts from Taiwan...

You can either install them yourself or they can do it for you...

[95zilvia]

Does it cost a lot?
And I believe I lost the warranty card, if it even came with one.
So if I ever DID need to repair my coilovers, I just get some replacement parts and Calvin will fix them for me??
ANd yeah, how much $$?

[240sx2soon]

After reading the thread ( for three days :blah: ) I have decided me wants. Do you have any left that need the mod? ( the $750 ones that is ) If you do I could buy them in about one week ( I get paid on the 31st ) hopefully they will last that long. I'll worry about finding a qualified shop to install them later, the shop I talked to said they could install them but the couldn't do an alignment ( kinda lame but OK). Let me know ASAP please thanks.

[Ian]

just so you know, installation is VERY easy and dosent take more then 2 hours if you're incompetant (like me) lol

the hardest part is dremeling the front holes

[240sx2soon]

I used to be a mechanic in a former life ( industrial not auto ) so I have a tool box twice the size of my car that could handle anything from putting in battery to swapping the motor. The problem is that I don't have a space to do the work ( i think thats most peoples problem with doing the work on their own cars). I think I am going to PM the dude about those coilovers, should have done that last night :hammer:

[hellion240sx]

i'll admit, the MR's are not the most comfortable coilover. but for 750 shipped, i have no room to whine. They're stiff, when i turn there's damn near no body roll (did i mention my dampening settings are 2/4? lol) when i pull into my driveway, my inside rear tire lifts off the ground and if i go too slow i get stuck...

job done. if i had 2000 dollars to spend, i woulda gotten some sick GPsports, Cusco, Zeal...you get the point

but i had 750...so this is what i have, and i'm damn happy with them.


PPIIICCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ian]

i know a guy who installed his in a college dorm parking lot lol
i also know a guy who installed them in a driveway in the rain...it was me lol

[Grumly2000]

I feel my MR coilover so stiff (spring rate 8/6).
Did anyone know if it's possible to change the spring by 6/4 ?

I can't find any e-mail adress on the MR website :/

[Ian]

are you serious? the MR coilovers feel great to me, have you tried turning the dampening to a larger number?

i drove mine 200 miles set on 2 and 2 and my back barely started hurting about 10 mins from the destination

[Grumly2000]

are you serious? the MR coilovers feel great to me, have you tried turning the dampening to a larger number?

i drove mine 200 miles set on 2 and 2 and my back barely started hurting about 10 mins from the destination
Yes I am :-/ :bow:

I tried dampering between 16 to 32 in about 3000 miles.
Now I just driven about 1000 miles in 3 days on various way (from motor-way to city-way) with dampering 22/27.
I have a big front strut brace. :angel:

I feel front very comfortable but rear is too hash (?). :eek:
Sometime the rear broke my spinal column :o

[umsports]

Sold the last set today of the S14 Megan Racing coilovers that require the mod....

So, we are now sold out of all Megan Racing Coilovers....

Simply Amazing! Guys, you have helped this to become quite possibly the highest unit sales group buy I've ever been apart of...

80 sets of S13 coilovers
60 sets of S14 coilovers, including those that require the mod...

THANKYOU ZILVIA.NET!

We look forward to bringing you guys more great deals from Megan Racing!


Our next container of Megan Racing coilovers will be here Mid-April....

Still pre-orderg if you want a set...and will send a Options DVD to you for the wait!

[DORIMON]

I just attended in a drift event with these coilovers. Versus my old setup, TEIN S.Tech springs and KYB AGX struts, the Megan coilovers have cleaned up all the body roll and have made my driving improve by a lot. My drift transitioning has been much more precise and smoother, with a lot more control. At 1st, I was messing around with the damper adjustments where I had 16 in the front and 1 (stiffest) in the rear, and I couldn't control the car as easily as 16 all around. I believe the parking lot that the event was being held at had different elevations and caused my rear end to hop in mid-drift. I ended up using 16 in the front and rear, which is also my daily driving setting, and it seems like the median for me, the perfect setting for the spring rate, or at least maybe my 2 finger gap drop. Overall, this is my 1st coilover set, but it is definetely a good help at the events. And to whore out my action shots, here are a few pics of my last event, thanks to LookOutDrift.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/371000-371999/371907_270_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/371000-371999/371907_269_full.jpg