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GAWMAF
08-18-2018, 09:04 PM
Kind of new to modifying 240's, what are some reputable brands for aftermarket parts? Especially exhaust, engine and exterior mods

rawgarage
08-18-2018, 09:40 PM
come on bro do some research

Malik
08-18-2018, 10:23 PM
Kind of new to modifying 240's, what are some reputable brands for aftermarket parts? Especially exhaust, engine and exterior mods

tomei,

learn more about the engine you want and that should put you in a good place to figure out what parts are necessary and then from there research and read reviews.

5280VertDET
08-18-2018, 10:29 PM
ISIS, not that ISR crap.

derass
08-18-2018, 11:24 PM
ISR #1 best for job

RedSled
08-19-2018, 08:07 AM
Kind of new to modifying 240's, what are some reputable brands for aftermarket parts? Especially exhaust, engine and exterior mods

Good reputable brands will be like nike, Coca Cola , adidas , McDonald's just to name a few and well a good place to shop at reasonable prices will be walmart and just check the outlets

blkvrtswp
08-19-2018, 08:17 AM
Avoid eBay, check major retailers like FR Sport and Enjuku and 240sx Motoring. They have cheap brands that are not total junk like found on eBay.

No name suspension is a really bad idea, and for any moving engine parts like turbo, injectors, fuel press regulator, boost controller - get yer wallet out and get better than junk copy quality or you will be sorry later.

Judeasaurus
08-19-2018, 12:03 PM
Gktech, Partsshopmax, and ISR are reliable imo.

turboshoebox
08-20-2018, 11:21 PM
Good brands:
Tomei
ARC
HKS
Blitz
Greddy
MSport
Nismo
DG-5
Sard
Tanabe
Do-Luck
Cusco
Ikeya Formula
SSR
Work
Bride
Koyo
Apex'i
Bee-R
Vertex
Varis
Voltex
Gargage Mak
Advan

Shity Brands:

ISR
Fortune Auto
Mishimoto
CX Racing
XXR
Duralast bodykits
VIS racing
Seibon carbon
ESR wheels
Varstoen wheels
Cosmis wheels
JNC wheels
Spec clutchs
Megan Racing
BC racing
Feal coilovers
Ksport
Megan racing
NRG
Grip Royal
Rocket bunny
Battle aero
ebay stuff
Corbeu seats

rawgarage
08-21-2018, 12:09 AM
Good brands:
Tomei
ARC
HKS
Blitz
Greddy
MSport
Nismo
DG-5
Sard
Tanabe
Do-Luck
Cusco
Ikeya Formula
SSR
Work
Bride
Koyo
Apex'i
Bee-R
Vertex
Varis
Voltex
Gargage Mak
Advan

Shity Brands:

ISR
Fortune Auto
Mishimoto
CX Racing
XXR
Duralast bodykits
VIS racing
Seibon carbon
ESR wheels
Varstoen wheels
Cosmis wheels
JNC wheels
Spec clutchs
Megan Racing
BC racing
Feal coilovers
Ksport
Megan racing
NRG
Grip Royal
Rocket bunny
Battle aero
ebay stuff
Corbeu seats

not all heroes wear capes

Juucso
08-21-2018, 12:19 AM
Good brands:
Tomei
ARC
HKS
Blitz
Greddy
MSport
Nismo
DG-5
Sard
Tanabe
Do-Luck
Cusco
Ikeya Formula
SSR
Work
Bride
Koyo
Apex'i
Bee-R
Vertex
Varis
Voltex
Gargage Mak
Advan

Shity Brands:

ISR
Fortune Auto
Mishimoto
CX Racing
XXR
Duralast bodykits
VIS racing
Seibon carbon
ESR wheels
Varstoen wheels
Cosmis wheels
JNC wheels
Spec clutchs
Megan Racing
BC racing
Feal coilovers
Ksport
Megan racing
NRG
Grip Royal
Rocket bunny
Battle aero
ebay stuff
Corbeu seats


How the fuck is Rocket Bunny and BC racing shitty? They both make great products, BC must have the best coils in the 1000usd price range. Rocket Bunny fits really really nicely just like Vertex. Mishimoto makes good cooling products too.

deadghost
08-21-2018, 04:51 AM
How the fuck is Rocket Bunny and BC racing shitty? They both make great products, BC must have the best coils in the 1000usd price range. Rocket Bunny fits really really nicely just like Vertex. Mishimoto makes good cooling products too.

eh... mishimoto and rocket bunny are shitty in my book

dizzariot
08-21-2018, 06:05 AM
not all weeaboos wear capes

Couldn’t agree more. I mean, that whole list is totally not outsourced to China or Taiwan.

*turboshoebox sniffs more Japanese farts, inhaling deeply*

As always, Feal is a point of contention. turboshoebox is obviously dick-riding all brands that claim to be JDM when there are clearly offenders in that list that have their shit made in China nowadays.

This is like the third time I’ve called him out about Feal and, as usual, I probably won’t get a reasoning other than ‘it’s not mentioned in any anime I’m watching or manga I’m reading.’

Oh and Nightrunner. Buy anything he stocks because, you know, he has a Type X now so that’s another cock to hop on.

Fuck I hate these cars.

Juucso
08-21-2018, 07:34 AM
Couldn’t agree more. I mean, that whole list is totally not outsourced to China or Taiwan.

*turboshoebox sniffs more Japanese farts, inhaling deeply*

As always, Feal is a point of contention. turboshoebox is obviously dick-riding all brands that claim to be JDM when there are clearly offenders in that list that have their shit made in China nowadays.

This is like the third time I’ve called him out about Feal and, as usual, I probably won’t get a reasoning other than ‘it’s not mentioned in any anime I’m watching or manga I’m reading.’

Oh and Nightrunner. Buy anything he stocks because, you know, he has a Type X now so that’s another cock to hop on.

Fuck I hate these cars.


Don't hate the game, hate the players.
I think I'm one of the worst S13 lovers since I love anything that's radical and absurd. Sucks for you that the S-chassis is perfect for that kind of modification because the large scale of parts available. :kiss:

turboshoebox
08-21-2018, 12:03 PM
Rb is jdm but still complete ass

Juucso
08-21-2018, 12:19 PM
Rb is jdm but still complete ass

It's not ass. If you don't like it, it doesn't still make it ass. It's a nice quality brand and their parts fit nicely so what's the problem?

turboshoebox
08-21-2018, 12:26 PM
You must be new here. Only someone who is a late comer to the 240 like the brand's of rb, bc and moshimoto.(see also isr, fortune auto,not as much not but Megan racing)


Its the brand's that are pushed the most thru forums, Google, online shops for the past 4 to 5 years or longer.

If one is new its the stuff u keep seeing. So naturally that's what ur gonna be partial too not knowing about all the other stuff

slider2828
08-21-2018, 12:42 PM
Feal is owned, ran, and designed by Odi Bakchis. He builds suspension for competitive stadium trucks and stuff? Still not legit?

Juucso
08-21-2018, 12:55 PM
You must be new here. Only someone who is a late comer to the 240 like the brand's of rb, bc and moshimoto.(see also isr, fortune auto,not as much not but Megan racing)


Its the brand's that are pushed the most thru forums, Google, online shops for the past 4 to 5 years or longer.

If one is new its the stuff u keep seeing. So naturally that's what ur gonna be partial too not knowing about all the other stuff


I am not "new" to the S-Chassis scene. Rocket Bunny is overplayed etc.. I get it, but it does not make it "shitty" brand. J-P fiberglass is shitty...

I've spent way too much time doing research on S13 parts and every day, I still see something new. I am not a master, but not a newbie either.

dorkidori_s13
08-21-2018, 01:20 PM
funny thing is... ive run a Mishimoto radiator in my daily driven Protege5 for 2 summers now here in Vegas along with a colder Mishimoto thermostat. ZERO ISSUES!

ive run Fortune Auto coilovers in my S13 for almost 5 years now (good 3 years of that, they were daily driven)... again, ZERO ISSUES!

ive run Megan rear adjustable lateral arms and trailing arms in my Protege5 for almost 2 years now, again, daily driven... wait for it, ZERO ISSUES!

not sure how people formulate their opinions at times, but saying "shitty brands" is kind of an assumption based in personal beliefs, internet jargon and hearsay.

unless youre trying to build some kind of track beast... brands like Megan, Circuit Sports, P2M, Fortune Auto etc etc offer affordable and decent suspension solutions. not everyone wants or even NEEDS to go out and blow $4000-$5000 on a suspension setup.

in terms of aero parts though, i would recommend to stay away from brands like DuraFlex, no name ebay sellers, JPFiberglass etc who offer super cheap parts. if you want parts that fit and are extremely durable, you can run my stuff (DorkiDori), Shine Auto Project, KBD or any of the older (whats left of them) brands from Japan like Rocket Bunny, Vertex, Instant Gentleman etc. cheap aero parts are cheap for a reason... they tend to fit like shit, are loaded with filler instead of fibers (which makes the parts stiff and easily breakable), have zero quality control, and youll spend more money at the body shop with them having to fix the problems instead of spending the money up front and buying quality aero.

in terms of wheels, again, unless youre building a track beast or trying to score cool points on the interwebs, cheaper cast wheels like Rota, XXR, Cosmis etc will work fine... just be forewarned though, THEIR WHEELS ARE HEAVY!!! and they are prone to cracking or breaking if enough impact is had to the wheel. if youre just driving around, youll be fine. but if youre looking to go the route of higher quality with wheels... Work, Rays, Advan etc are amazing. if youd like to find some quality wheels much cheaper (they may require a bit of restoration work), hit up Yahoo Auctions Japan and utilize their Buyee serivce... or go find yourself an importer to bring the wheels over.

honestly, its your car... spend the the money where you see fit. HOWEVER, i highly recommend you dont skip out on buying cheap parts where you really should just save your money and do it right the first time... ESPECIALLY WITH ENGINE PARTS!!! the bulk of people left on Zilvia tend to be a little jaded and opinionated because theyve been in the scene a long time... however, not everyones opinion is a good one.

just as the saying goes in anything in life... you get what you pay for! just keep that in mind when looking for parts. if the parts are priced dirt ass cheap, then youre going to get something that is junk. if the parts are priced in the mid range, youll get something decent. if the price is skyhigh, well... start saving your money cause quality doesnt come cheap!

slider2828
08-21-2018, 02:22 PM
That is true man^^.... I am still running megans with swift springs and with needle bearing perches.... Feels awesome....

But then I blew up my 3rd engine. Just saying things happen and like what smart people say, don't buy outside your means....

The fakist brands (most fake) are people buying on credit.... Just don't get into debt and all good.

derass
08-21-2018, 02:41 PM
sick Brands, yo:

ISR
Fortune Auto
Mishimoto
CX Racing
XXR
Duralast bodykits
VIS racing
Seibon carbon
ESR wheels
Varstoen wheels
Cosmis wheels
JNC wheels
Spec clutchs
Megan Racing
BC racing
Feal coilovers
Ksport
Megan racing
NRG
Grip Royal
Rocket bunny
Battle aero
ebay stuff
Corbeu seats

I fixed this

turboshoebox
08-21-2018, 03:28 PM
Street car or track car u would want the best of the best. Breaking down in traffic is way more dangerous

simmode1
08-21-2018, 03:43 PM
Wait wait wait wait wait... People are shitting on Fortune Auto now?

wtf

slider2828
08-21-2018, 03:45 PM
Fortune auto better than megan or bc.... same grade as PBM?

turboshoebox
08-21-2018, 03:57 PM
Wait wait wait wait wait... People are shitting on Fortune Auto now?

wtf

I always shited on fortune auto. Just some shit red nexk company from the south that a bunch of people bought into their marketing when in reality just another china brand or taiwan

FaLKoN240
08-21-2018, 04:10 PM
Speaking from experience you'll always see OGs shitting on new brands that come in the scene.

The reason we do that is that we were the seed round of funding/R&D for these brands. Megan had little to no QC over their early products. Heim joints would fail and lose their tension. The aluminum arms would crack/break the threaded sections would rust. Buyer and skeptics alike would all say: "What did you expect? It's cheap." And swear to never buy it again or buy it again knowing we would replace it relatively soon.

Juusco, you're 19. You're still very new to the scene especially for guys that have been into these cars since the 90s,00s etc.

Your ideal build is much different from the guys that still idolize the 2000s of drifting, doriten, option video etc. and it always will be. No matter what this will always be an issue of contention between your peers and mine.

The sooner you accept that the sooner you'll be able to shrug off those disagreements and move on with your life. Do it while you're young. You won't change these old dogs.

dizzariot
08-21-2018, 06:31 PM
^^^ There's no evidence to suggest turboshoebox is 'an old dog' and not just a weeb in disguise trying to make it appear like he's an 'old hand'.

I think my main assertion here is that this guy is always quick to throw out MaD tYte JdM brands but can't back any shit up about his claims.

I'll ask turboshoebox again: what experience have you had with Feal (or any other name people are defending) that led you to your statement? If Feal changed their name to Tachibana or Kazuo would you say they were 'reputable' because the fucking name is Japanese?

Dick jockey, please hop off the dick long enough to answer.

turboshoebox
08-21-2018, 09:47 PM
I don't know why you keep bringing anime in this conversation. I don't watch anime and cars aren't related to anime.

You seem to also have a hard on for Feal suspension. First off it's clearly and obvious name brand trying to sound JDM by calling it Feal instead of Zeal.

Also It's some another cheap chinese suspension driven by a dog in a drifting series called FD aka the special Olympics of drifting.

Mishomoto is another garbage ass company trying to sound Japanese but just more stuff from China. Broken water necks, etc seems to be the norm.

Forgot to add another few more legit companies to the list:

Hypertune from Austrailla
Full Race
Maxworxz

feito
08-21-2018, 09:59 PM
I just came from a thread where someone proudly rocks a mishi IC with a huge logo painted on it. Funny how that's become normal.

turboshoebox
08-21-2018, 11:20 PM
win list:

Defi

Fail:
auto meter
momo(prob only run if you life in bfe)

Malik
08-21-2018, 11:50 PM
the OP needs to decide a handful of basic things before he delves into the parts he needs.

the lot of you just love to argue and its funny to read.

Juucso
08-22-2018, 01:09 AM
Speaking from experience you'll always see OGs shitting on new brands that come in the scene.

The reason we do that is that we were the seed round of funding/R&D for these brands. Megan had little to no QC over their early products. Heim joints would fail and lose their tension. The aluminum arms would crack/break the threaded sections would rust. Buyer and skeptics alike would all say: "What did you expect? It's cheap." And swear to never buy it again or buy it again knowing we would replace it relatively soon.

Juusco, you're 19. You're still very new to the scene especially for guys that have been into these cars since the 90s,00s etc.

Your ideal build is much different from the guys that still idolize the 2000s of drifting, doriten, option video etc. and it always will be. No matter what this will always be an issue of contention between your peers and mine.

The sooner you accept that the sooner you'll be able to shrug off those disagreements and move on with your life. Do it while you're young. You won't change these old dogs.



This is very true. Some of you have been into the car scene before I were even born and that is amazing since you still are here enjoying the hobby with passion.

I love the "old school" 2000s cars that I've seen from Option, doriten etc.., but does this still make newer brands shitty? Yes, maybe it doesn't fit to your eye, but it doesn't make it a shitty product. Look at the Top Secret, Abflug and Veilside. Some of their products look horrible to me, but they're still good brands since their producst are high quality.

Some say that Super Advans look horrible, but are they shitty wheels? Hell nah!

I'm not trying to change anyones preferences here, I'm just trying to tell people that these newer brands are good quality too and I do not agree with someone calling it a shitty product, because they do not like how the products look.

FaLKoN240
08-22-2018, 09:51 AM
This is very true. Some of you have been into the car scene before I were even born and that is amazing since you still are here enjoying the hobby with passion.

I love the "old school" 2000s cars that I've seen from Option, doriten etc.., but does this still make newer brands shitty? Yes, maybe it doesn't fit to your eye, but it doesn't make it a shitty product. Look at the Top Secret, Abflug and Veilside. Some of their products look horrible to me, but they're still good brands since their producst are high quality.

Some say that Super Advans look horrible, but are they shitty wheels? Hell nah!

I'm not trying to change anyones preferences here, I'm just trying to tell people that these newer brands are good quality too and I do not agree with someone calling it a shitty product, because they do not like how the products look.

I think you completely glazed over the original point of my post.

Those new brands started off by making inferior parts. The company's business and development were not crafted around motorsports or performance but producing rep parts with cheap build quality.

They raised money by putting as little money into the actual parts and development. They went to market with the cheap parts without testing them for fatigue or stress. They sold a bunch of junk to Americans that could not afford imported arms like Ikeya formula or domestic quality brands like SPL.

After they made money by mass selling cheap pieces and staining their name they started investing in making parts with better quality to improve their name for new people coming into the fold.

The Mishimoto/isr/megan of today is much different than the mishimoto/isr/megan when they originally came out.

Many of the old heads still have the taste of shit in our mouths for the original trash they put out.

jumpman2334
08-22-2018, 10:02 AM
You seem to also have a hard on for Feal suspension. First off it's clearly and obvious name brand trying to sound JDM by calling it Feal instead of Zeal.

If its 'clearly obvious' Feal is trying to be deceptive and trick people into thinking they are 'JDM', please provide proof.


This has got to be one of the dumbest posts ive read on zilvia in a long time.

tuzzio
08-22-2018, 10:10 AM
The Mishimoto/isr/megan of today is much different than the mishimoto/isr/megan when they originally came out.


This is one of the most important things i've read in this thread.

turboshoebox
08-22-2018, 10:24 AM
If its 'clearly obvious' Feal is trying to be deceptive and trick people into thinking they are 'JDM', please provide proof.


This has got to be one of the dumbest posts ive read on zilvia in a long time.

Zeal is one of most respected companies that make coilovers.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/attachments/suspension-brakes-handling-wheels-tires-162/152639d1501324328-zeal-function-t-available-zeal-logo.jpg

Feal Sound almost just like it name it wise. It's no coincidence on the name chosen. :ugh:
http://fealsuspensionstore.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/logo.png

You can't be serious where you never put two and two together.

IIIXziuR
08-22-2018, 11:01 AM
Falkon240 with the truth.
Interesting how ISR, Mishimoto, Megan, etc have grown from their not so humble beginnings.

slider2828
08-22-2018, 11:02 AM
^^ Feal vs. Zeal that has no fact behind it... Might as well just be spreading rumors....

FaLKoN240
08-22-2018, 11:04 AM
Zeal is one of most respected companies that make coilovers.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/attachments/suspension-brakes-handling-wheels-tires-162/152639d1501324328-zeal-function-t-available-zeal-logo.jpg

Feal Sound almost just like it name it wise. It's no coincidence on the name chosen. :ugh:
http://fealsuspensionstore.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/logo.png

You can't be serious where you never put two and two together.

I have no experience with Feal coils, but from what I heard, from the start he custom builds coils and using a shock dyno will match springs with the dampers, aka doing some quality work.

Which is more than I can say for some of the other entry level coil companies out there.

He may have changed his business model since he first started, but Feal IIRC can rebuild shit ass coils into coils (1st gen Megan/BC/ISR) into coils that actually feel and perform well.

Feal in Latin also means LOYALTY which may have a deeper meaning than your belief that they are just copying a reputable Japanese brand and changing a letter.

feal
[feel]
ExamplesWord Origin
See more synonyms for feal on Thesaurus.com
adjective
Archaic. faithful; loyal.

EJ8 944
08-22-2018, 11:36 AM
win list:

Defi

Fail:
auto meter
momo(prob only run if you life in bfe)

STACK gauges are great, Autometer now owns them. Their Elite series gauges are Autometer branded STACK gauges if I am not mistaken. Most of the Autometer offerings I'd agree are trash, but not the Elite/STACK stuff.

MOMO steering wheels are great too. I consider them the same quality as Personal, Sparco, etc.

Trash steering wheels, I'd say are brands such as Grip Royal and NRG

EJ8 944
08-22-2018, 11:47 AM
To the OP - just find something you think you may like, then Google the brand, the product, discover what sort of quality you can expect.

I have peak performance suspension arms, not a super JDM even a well known brand (most if not all their stuff is discontinued), but I felt good buying old used arms because they have easily interchangeable, high quality Aurora rod ends whereas Megan, ISR and such, while they may currently offer a higher quality arm than what they initially did, they still utilize cheap rod ends that makes them worthless to me.

I don't think it's ever brand per se, but more of quality where it counts.

I bought a Greddy hot pipe for my car years ago, spent $120 dollars on a piece of aluminum pipe. Total waste of money I could've had an identical pipe for under $20 but I used to brand jockey hard, these days it's just quality > all, no matter the manufacturer.

derass
08-22-2018, 11:54 AM
I just came from a thread where someone proudly rocks a mishi IC with a huge logo painted on it. Funny how that's become normal.

I laughed when I saw this. Taken here in Toronto. I guess they spent all their money on the car and had none left over for good parts.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39522339_10205020215061806_5584713689719635968_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1eafbd0dde7bff326404af97ebc65487&oe=5BEE75D1

jumpman2334
08-22-2018, 11:55 AM
....
please do not ever reproduce.

Juucso
08-22-2018, 12:54 PM
I think you completely glazed over the original point of my post.

Those new brands started off by making inferior parts. The company's business and development were not crafted around motorsports or performance but producing rep parts with cheap build quality.

They raised money by putting as little money into the actual parts and development. They went to market with the cheap parts without testing them for fatigue or stress. They sold a bunch of junk to Americans that could not afford imported arms like Ikeya formula or domestic quality brands like SPL.

After they made money by mass selling cheap pieces and staining their name they started investing in making parts with better quality to improve their name for new people coming into the fold.

The Mishimoto/isr/megan of today is much different than the mishimoto/isr/megan when they originally came out.

Many of the old heads still have the taste of shit in our mouths for the original trash they put out.


Ahh, sorry! Now I got it. :)

And I still think you're correct.

feito
08-22-2018, 05:48 PM
I laughed when I saw this. Taken here in Toronto. I guess they spent all their money on the car and had none left over for good parts.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39522339_10205020215061806_5584713689719635968_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1eafbd0dde7bff326404af97ebc65487&oe=5BEE75D1

fucking downgrade :smash:

Kingtal0n
08-22-2018, 08:14 PM
I had some nismo coilovers for S14 on a kouki that had to be 20 years old.

Out of production but specifically produced for 240sx by nismo (nissan I guess).

They were amazing (to me). Silent, stable, just wow at 20 year old parts like that.

turboshoebox
08-22-2018, 10:32 PM
please do not ever reproduce.

if you want to build a car with nothing but replica parts and mishimoto, ISR etc. noone is stoping you

future
08-22-2018, 10:57 PM
Odi build me a custom set of coils for my 350

And his sales rep was on the phone with me for two hours asking this and that....let me tell you that was the best set of coils I love ever had or been in. Feal or nothing for coils

ILoveMyRHS13
08-23-2018, 12:31 AM
Good brands:
Tomei
ARC
HKS
Blitz
Greddy
MSport
Nismo
DG-5
Sard
Tanabe
Do-Luck
Cusco
Ikeya Formula
SSR
Work
Bride
Koyo
Apex'i
Bee-R
Vertex
Varis
Voltex
Gargage Mak
Advan

Shity Brands:

ISR
Fortune Auto
Mishimoto
CX Racing
XXR
Duralast bodykits
VIS racing
Seibon carbon
ESR wheels
Varstoen wheels
Cosmis wheels
JNC wheels
Spec clutchs
Megan Racing
BC racing
Feal coilovers
Ksport
Megan racing
NRG
Grip Royal
Rocket bunny
Battle aero
ebay stuff
Corbeu seats
ur a fuckin weenie

turboshoebox
08-23-2018, 12:53 AM
ur a fuckin weenie

u mad the brands u like to run are on the fail list bro?

dizzariot
08-23-2018, 02:25 AM
Again, let's look past the internet persona here and point out that the dude still hasn't listed a valid reason. His method of deduction goes like this:

Is it Japanese?
Have I heard about it in anime?
Did I read it in manga?

No?

Cheap, shitty parts.

*turboshoebox finds his hidden stash of Japanese farts in the kitchen cupboard, the one behind the off-brand Frosted Flakes

TBfWKmRFTjM

tuzzio
08-23-2018, 08:06 AM
I just came from a thread where someone proudly rocks a mishi IC with a huge logo painted on it. Funny how that's become normal.

Whats wrong with a mishimoto intercooler?

The thing that has always bothered me about intercoolers is the lack of information and stats provided with them. Honestly, there is very very minimal data provided with numerous brands about how their intercooler flows etc. Everybody humps greddy intercoolers, but why are they good? Because it was a huge intercooler core 15 years ago? Have they updated anything about it since? Theres very minimal data showing that a a lot of these big branded intercoolers are any better flowing than say mishimoto or cxracing. I have a cxracing intercooler core on my car, and I have no issues with it. Is there a better product out there? I'm sure there is. But I see no reason to gamble money on something that MIGHT be better performing.

ILoveMyRHS13
08-23-2018, 12:49 PM
u mad the brands u like to run are on the fail list bro?
nah not mad man, just stating that youre a fuckin weenie :keke:

turboshoebox
08-23-2018, 01:05 PM
Diz: what is ur obsessiom with anime and keep refering to it as if jdm parts are are refered to in it? Seems ur the weeaboo. They are both Japanese but that's about it.

slider2828
08-23-2018, 02:21 PM
Whats wrong with a mishimoto intercooler?

The thing that has always bothered me about intercoolers is the lack of information and stats provided with them. Honestly, there is very very minimal data provided with numerous brands about how their intercooler flows etc. Everybody humps greddy intercoolers, but why are they good? Because it was a huge intercooler core 15 years ago? Have they updated anything about it since? Theres very minimal data showing that a a lot of these big branded intercoolers are any better flowing than say mishimoto or cxracing. I have a cxracing intercooler core on my car, and I have no issues with it. Is there a better product out there? I'm sure there is. But I see no reason to gamble money on something that MIGHT be better performing.

Why not Koyo? I see the boners with Greddy, but there are a LOT of other good brands as well. Griffin is legit too....

turboshoebox
08-23-2018, 03:14 PM
I don't see anyone going bonkers for greddy but arc fmic, radiaters and oil coolers
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/I64AAOSwFSxZ8LAZ/s-l640.jpg

dizzariot
08-23-2018, 03:28 PM
Diz: what is ur obsessiom with anime and keep refering to it as if jdm parts are are refered to in it? Seems ur the weeaboo. They are both Japanese but that's about it.

Oh I just assumed...but you're the expert on all things Japanese. Should've known you'd call me out for my lack of Japanese knowledge.

You still not gonna provide any evidence for us, Master Weeb?

Maxstyle
08-23-2018, 03:39 PM
Tomei US not really the same and Tomei Japan. They may change their name eventually
ARC - No longer in existance
HKS - Great quality but very difficult to get into US as distribution is limited
Blitz - one of the first brands to outsourcing their products but quality control is amazing
Greddy - Owned by a larger group now that owns other brands such as OS Giken. Sold all their tooling during bankruptcy and out source a large majority of their products. Great quality control
MSport - Seriously don't worry. Can't afford it.
Nismo - OEM Quality
DG-5 - Use Korean manufacture. Tuned in Japanese fashion for very aggressive for US style roads
Sard - Great parts. Costly.
Tanabe - Shocks are great when new but they go through lines so quickly that you will not be able to get you shocks serviced in the future.
Do-Luck - Not worth the eccentric styling. Great quality but alternatives are better quality and pricing
Cusco - Amazing product and quality control. Internal manufacturing in Japan. Provide OEM manufacture with Motorsports solutions
Ikeya Formula - Great quality and originators of may of the parts you see copied today. Pricey because of low production numbers. High Quality.
SSR - Amazing wheels. Great product. Part of the TANABE family
Work - Amazing wheels. Great Product. Also part of a larger trading group.
Bride - Amazing Quality but very limited production. Expensive but holds it's value.
Koyo - Quality High but has diminished over the past few years on their new line. Needs some better quality control IMO these days. No real warranty or support.
Apex'i - Amazing Quality and provider of one of the most popular tuning solutions for Japanese cars
Bee-R - More a of Japanese tuning shop. Small electronics. Great for light tuning solutions
Vertex - One of the highest grade body kits. Loyal owner to motorsports culture.
Varis - High Quality kits
Voltex - High Quality Kits
Gargage Mak - High Quality Kits
Advan - Part of the Mackin Industry group in US. Very high quality wheels

"Shity" Brands: I don't entirely agree with this

ISR - Ok brand. Decent for light tuning but life does not last as long. You will buy 2 but over the span of a certain time. Buy one now or 2 isr later
Fortune Auto - Quality components all selected. offering innovative suspension tuning solutions such as digressive piston technology and penske external components.
Mishimoto - Fun fact. US based company that wanted asian sounding automotive name. Mishi was his cat. Add moto and bam. Good warranty but distribution is a bit behind. Make sure item is in stock at your preferred shop
CX Racing - No real foundation. Good if on a budget and just need to get buy. Meh at best
XXR - Surprisingly popular in Japan. Great for 15"s Drifters. Great for getting out there and just driving
Duralast bodykits - Keep your oem.
VIS racing - Keep your oem
Seibon carbon - Slowly improving over time. Best of the replica carbon brand
ESR wheels - No opinion
Varstoen wheels - replica wheels. When you want TE's but don't think you will ever get them.
Cosmis wheels - Affordable semi-unique wheels
JNC wheels - No opinion
Spec clutchs - Hit or miss. Sometimes great sometimes trash. Most the time it's because people are not really matching what they need with what they buy. They over clutch.
Megan Racing - Improved quality over time. Engineer formerly from Tein.
BC racing - Producer of coilovers but no real R&D. Make coils for a number of major brand and takes their design and calls it theirs.
Feal coilovers - Using larger manufacture to produce but valved and spec'd by independent firm in the US. Don't purchase if you're not going to use them to their potential. Will feel like crap if just using for daily street.
Ksport - BC like manufacture
NRG - We all know what it is.
Grip Royal - Mid grade manufacture of wheels. Not Shit but not amazing. It'll due
Rocket bunny - Depends on source. Greddy distributed units have amazing fitment and quality. Alternative Licensed group units are outsourced and do not fit as well
Battle aero - Not truely function. Yes it's a wing but not competition worthy.
ebay stuff - Ebay stuff
Corbeu seats - Great Big Boy Seats.

Here is just some insight on the brands. Everyone has different experiences. Purchase with caution and remember, When you give someone your money, what are they doing with it? Bigger house or more innovation in motorsports. Your call.

slider2828
08-23-2018, 04:18 PM
Dayum Maxstyle, you write that.... Pretty on point I'd say.....

Someone should sticky this thread for future.... Also on clutches

RPS Clutches - US base clutch maker. Quality is very good, but distribution is lacking.
OS Giken - Japan based. One of the original still very good clutches made but need to make sure correct TOB is selected
Ogura Clutches (ORC) and Diffs - Very high quality, quite expensive, but all rebuildable and uses a lot of stock components.
ATS Cross (Clutches) and Diffs - Highest quality clutches and diffs available especially their carbon line. Gotta pay to play
ACT Cluthes - Simiar to Spec(?) Maybe someone with experience chime in.

jumpman2334
08-23-2018, 04:29 PM
I don't see anyone going bonkers for greddy but arc fmic, radiaters and oil coolers

plenty of people outside of the s chassis community specifically look out for ARC stuff (evo/Miata guys come to mind right now). you just have to pull your head out of the 240 world for a few minutes.


its hard though because ARC is no longer in business and there is no NOS (or if there is, its incredibly hard to find). so everyone is left to scavenge in the second hand market.

dorkidori_s13
08-23-2018, 05:14 PM
ACT Cluthes - Simiar to Spec(?) Maybe someone with experience chime in.

ive had 3 ACT clutches since 2008... zero complaints. i had a small defect in my second 6 puck which i sent back to ACT and they repaired free of charge. outside of that hiccup, never had a single issue with them. beat the holy crap out of my ACT 6 spring 6 puck in my last S13 on the track (lots of clutch kicks), still worked like the day it was installed! currently have an ACT Street/Strip disc in my S13 along with a heavy duty pressure plate and Tracklight flywheel... perfect combination, drives great and have had zero issues since installing some 2-3 years back!

feito
08-23-2018, 06:08 PM
Whats wrong with a mishimoto intercooler?

The thing that has always bothered me about intercoolers is the lack of information and stats provided with them. Honestly, there is very very minimal data provided with numerous brands about how their intercooler flows etc. Everybody humps greddy intercoolers, but why are they good? Because it was a huge intercooler core 15 years ago? Have they updated anything about it since? Theres very minimal data showing that a a lot of these big branded intercoolers are any better flowing than say mishimoto or cxracing. I have a cxracing intercooler core on my car, and I have no issues with it. Is there a better product out there? I'm sure there is. But I see no reason to gamble money on something that MIGHT be better performing.

Nothing if that's what you can afford I guess (if they're still affordable that is). Hell, I put a no-name fmic on my s13 that Im planning on selling, not sure how efficient it is but I'm sure it's better than nothing as long as it doesnt leak (which I tested). What I am saying is I think it's funny how people proudly rock these knock-off brands on the open with big logos. On that same s13 I have these generic ic couplers with some badass jdm names on them, know what I do? I clock them so that the brand is not visible haha. I'd give that fmic a quick layer of silver paint, but that's just me...
Not to mention, Im sure in a lot of cases these knock-off brand "upgrades" are actually counterproductive. I seriously doubt these brands have the r&d capabilities that these giant companies that build parts for car manufacturers have. Take that r34 for instance. It is known that the r34 gtr is one of the best oem intercoolers out there. I seriously doubt mishimoto or any similar company for that matter, has the same r&d capabilities as calsonic. Bigger doesn't automatically mean better.

FaLKoN240
08-23-2018, 07:01 PM
What I am saying is I think it's funny how people proudly rock these knock-off brands on the open with big logos.

People like to rock the knock-off brand logos because they want other people to know they're spending money on the car.

Modifying cars has become more of an affiliation thing than something you do for enjoyment. They can be part of the scene and represent the logos of recognized brands will get respect from your peers whether you're showing off expensive parts or cheap parts.

tuzzio
08-24-2018, 08:06 AM
People like to rock the knock-off brand logos because they want other people to know they're spending money on the car.

Modifying cars has become more of an affiliation thing than something you do for enjoyment. They can be part of the scene and represent the logos of recognized brands will get respect from your peers whether you're showing off expensive parts or cheap parts.

Thanks social media. People will whore out to brands just so that brand will share their picture.

turboshoebox
08-24-2018, 11:24 AM
People like to rock the knock-off brand logos because they want other people to know they're spending money on the car.

Modifying cars has become more of an affiliation thing than something you do for enjoyment. They can be part of the scene and represent the logos of recognized brands will get respect from your peers whether you're showing off expensive parts or cheap parts.

I rock zero stickers. cars speak for them self

FaLKoN240
08-24-2018, 11:26 AM
I rock zero stickers. cars speak for them self

Obviously, my posts do not pertain to you. Also not going to fall into the trap of calling you names.

turboshoebox
08-24-2018, 01:34 PM
plenty of people outside of the s chassis community specifically look out for ARC stuff (evo/Miata guys come to mind right now). you just have to pull your head out of the 240 world for a few minutes.


its hard though because ARC is no longer in business and there is no NOS (or if there is, its incredibly hard to find). so everyone is left to scavenge in the second hand market.

U read that wrong. Im saying people love arc parts.


Arc is in back

http://www.arc-brazing.co.jp/product.html

jumpman2334
08-24-2018, 04:01 PM
i see. I had to read your post a couple of times and I still did not get it.


neat to see ARC back. when I had my NB Miata I remember people would shell out hundreds of dollars for beat up/shitty cross over intakes. some had dents and even punctures on them and people would still buy them with the intention of repairing because it was the best intake (performance wise) they could buy at the time; it being a premium Japanese intake was just a bonus.

Kingtal0n
08-24-2018, 04:05 PM
I have the fix for all part name brands whether good or not






$1 walmart acrylic paint

added bonus for melted crayon which acts as a temperature sensitive indicator and runs right off the car when it gets hot enough,
thus leaving trails of colors everywhere you go

FaLKoN240
08-24-2018, 04:20 PM
I have the fix for all part name brands whether good or not






$1 walmart acrylic paint

added bonus for melted crayon which acts as a temperature sensitive indicator and runs right off the car when it gets hot enough,
thus leaving trails of colors everywhere you go

I was going to hold my tongue, but once again. This isn't funny.

turboshoebox
08-24-2018, 05:39 PM
That's Florida for u

Kingtal0n
08-24-2018, 10:46 PM
that wasn't a joke, its some advice and exactly what i did to my car on purpose.



since when did owning a car become about brand


isn't it supposed to reflect something more important? And how will you express that.

I think the less something costs the more meaningful it is. The mods you can do for free like cleaning/maintaining and self-fabrication, organization can be most rewarding.

I saw some stripes like this on an S14 once in a magazine. No way I could ever effort/afford to put something like this in actual paint on a car. I backed into an engine on the ground because careless and now there's a dent back there on the rear bumper. Dents, holes, whatever happens, its fine: thas what I do. You can almost see the quarter sized hole in the middle of the purple stripe. So; $1 walmart paint washes right off with water and some rubbing. Its like a temporary tatoo. It isn't perfect or permanent but it still exists and pretty easy to see and maintain if wished. I'm going to make some stormclouds over mountains on the front side bumper because I covered some cracks there with different colors and it accidentally made a sort of cloud line looking effect with mountains. Stuff at random sometimes leads the way when you can sit and do free activities as art.
https://s19.postimg.cc/fsex0qy0z/image.jpg

dorkidori_s13
08-24-2018, 10:49 PM
whats your brand?

DorkiDori ;)

well that and HKS lol

wkpainter
09-08-2018, 11:31 AM
An intercooler uses ambient air flowing over metal fins to cool charged air. How much r&d do you need to figure that out? Wether you spend 400 bucks on mishimoto or 1000 on a greddy your putting a few hundred dollars into an aftermarket part into a 20 year old car that may be worth 2 grand on paper. If you can afford to spend more on the name brand... good for you... you're a winner...

turboshoebox
09-09-2018, 03:56 PM
What a world we live in people defending mishimoto

wkpainter
09-22-2018, 10:43 AM
I don't even have a mishimoto... I have a huge Janky Godspeed intercooler that is oversized for my needs.

I also have a house filled with Ikea furniture, I don't have an iPhone or samsung phone, I have a vizio TV, I eat store brand cereal and soda, and my kid wears target brand diapers. I guess my whole life is poor quality products. ain't care though, do you?

theStig880
09-22-2018, 11:32 AM
An intercooler uses ambient air flowing over metal fins to cool charged air. How much r&d do you need to figure that out? Wether you spend 400 bucks on mishimoto or 1000 on a greddy your putting a few hundred dollars into an aftermarket part into a 20 year old car that may be worth 2 grand on paper. If you can afford to spend more on the name brand... good for you... you're a winner...

I think part of the problem is people not seeing the value in "real" versus low quality parts because the cost is usually hidden in materials, certifications, and engineering. You show that pretty well in your mishimoto/greddy statement. Intercoolers are actually pretty technical, they just seem simple on the surface; which makes it hard for people to justify spending more when they look the same.

A low quality intercooler work, sure; but not as efficiently. Even so, I personally buy "real" stuff as a quality assurance that it wont crack or leak or have bits break off into my engine.

Also a Greddy isnt $1000, mine cost $450.

oLemurs
09-22-2018, 11:34 AM
i can vouch for ISR exhaust but other than that i wouldnt waste your money, maybe the radiator and fans if you want a cheap but good value cooling setup other than that its probably a better idea to stay away

S13greencoupe
09-24-2018, 06:11 AM
Nistune is great and way cheaper then a full standalone. I just ordered a ACT 6 puck sprung and a ACT flywheel, I hope they are as good as people say. Iv heard a lot of negative with SPEC, Iv also had a SPEC clutch brake on me (a couple of the springs broke in the clutch.)

As far as suspension arms. I would say 90% of the company’s use the same bulk China made metal and joints. And it’s not like the internet or Zilvia is flooded with posts about broken Godspeed, IRS, CS, Megan etc etc suspension components. Most of us can’t afford to spend thousands of dollars on the top shelve suspension arms nor even have use for them. I’d say spend the money on a good set of coilovers.

feito
09-24-2018, 11:33 AM
Nistune is a full standalone...

I don't even have a mishimoto... I have a huge Janky Godspeed intercooler that is oversized for my needs.

I also have a house filled with Ikea furniture, I don't have an iPhone or samsung phone, I have a vizio TV, I eat store brand cereal and soda, and my kid wears target brand diapers. I guess my whole life is poor quality products. ain't care though, do you?
^that's the way people get rich.