2007 240sx

[RadicalEdward]

I was browsing around http://www.importfanatix.com when i came across this:
http://www.soulja.org/2007Nissan240SX.jpg
too bad its ugly as sin :bash:

[nigel1]

hmm I think... :barf:

[nocomedown]

looks like a scion tc
i disapprove

[MakotoS13]

why the HELL don't they build off the S15 chassis? they'd sell em like hotcakes.

[S14DB]

Takes toaster into bathroom

What Magazine was it in? It looks nothing like any S-chasis...

[meatish]

Looks like a toyota echo with 350z headlights. Er, like complete shit. They need to make it look more like an FR car, with a long, low hood and roof line. As it is, it looks like you could drive it backwords and nobody would notice.

[twitchy]

yea no shiat eh?

whats with this trend of cars getting progressively uglier and uglier?

[Phlip]

I'm glad it won't happen, because that car just does not look good




.... at all

[BSeay]

GOD if thats whats it's coming to i wanna hurl all over miself

[TK]

looks like a scion tc
i disapprove


i agree :bash:

[exitspeed]

Come one guys. Even if it does get built you know it's not gonna look anything like that. It's waaay to earlier, and cars hardly ever look like the first conceptial drawings...Lets just cross our fingers.

[S14DB]

I'll be the first one down at the dealership with a rag and a gas tank...

[sil4ty]

i hope they come with a gun and bullet in the glove compartment

[DMCS14]

it looks like a new 300zx with 350z headlights, id drive it if the lowered the roof a little

[KiDyNomiTe]

concepts always are off, but its still probably gonna look like a slim 350z with that stupid looking grill they have on all thier cars.

[HyperTek]

must be Nissan North America thats designing it... i dont really like Nissan North America's designs....

[WhiteNissanS13]

Sheesh its soo ugly, i swear if the future 240sx comes out like that, and the eclipse comes out like its concept, i'll just kill myself

[MakotoS13]

heh, so how's the new mustang look sit with ya now?

no one will ever be completely happy.

[SR240DET]

wow! those wheels look pretty flush for a stock car.... awesome.....

oh yeah.. its ugly to...

[ca18guy]

Look on the bright side, atleast it doesn't have that horrible wheel gap all stock 240sx's had :coold:

[old_s13]

oh the wackness....

take that scion TC and throw it in the garbage.

[TheSnail]

i hope they come with a gun and bullet in the glove compartment


Bahahaha ! ! That was funny. I think all the car company’s need to quit making new cars with a futuristic spaceship look.

[S14DB]

Sheesh its soo ugly, i swear if the future 240sx comes out like that, and the eclipse comes out like its concept, i'll just kill myself
The Spy shots of the eclipse look just like the concept...

[exitspeed]

Look on the bright side, atleast it doesn't have that horrible wheel gap all stock 240sx's had :coold:


GUYS, It's a concept!!! :tweak: It won't have wheels like that if they make it. It'll have gay ass 17 with a 50 offset POS looking wheel. And the wheel gap will be huge. :smash:

[TurK]

i wonder what kind of motor it will have....

[evilimport]

^ with USDM's past luck, it prolly wont be turbocharged.....

[Shin_Kudo]

Hey if it weighs under 3000, is FR, and costs under 25k, who cares what the hell it looks like? For a bunch of self-professed "function over form" guys, you sure are making a big deal over the appearance. Who knows, maybe we'll even get a turbo this time!

[Bbandit]

Im guessing it will come with QR25DE.. and later people will turbo it and call it... QR-T

[machoonthetop]

maybe if we e-mail or petition nissan we can convince them to make a turbo silvia/240. i doubt it but its an idea

[Phlip]

Hey if it weighs under 3000, is FR, and costs under 25k, who cares what the hell it looks like? For a bunch of self-professed "function over form" guys, you sure are making a big deal over the appearance. Who knows, maybe we'll even get a turbo this time!
The beauty of claiming "function over form" is that up to this point we have been blessed with a car that wasn't fucking ugly.

[AlligatorBling]

I'll be the first one down at the dealership with a rag and a gas tank...


I got a Molotov cocktail with a match to go, I smoke my cigarette with style.

[phase12048]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :barf:

[machoonthetop]

I got a Molotov cocktail with a match to go, I smoke my cigarette with style. G n R???? asdfasdfasdf

[Rennen]

must be Nissan North America thats designing it... i dont really like Nissan North America's designs....

Not so much.

This is what I feared when Renault bailed out Nissan in 1999. Nissans are starting to slowly look like ugly french cars. I first noticed when I was in Germany this summer that the new Quest looks an awful lot like the Renault Espace, and other "family" ques were starting to cross over too. (compare Quest (http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/i/5qu/5quest_gal_05_med.jpg) to Espace (http://www.renault.co.uk/PUD/GB/PROD_GB/MEL_PROD/en/50968_wallpaper_1_smallImg_wallpapers_espace2_vn_e sp2_wp_800_01.jpeg) ) This concerns me because the French make the ugliest cars on the planet, when I left europe this summer I was glad to never have to see a Renault or Citroën again. But now Renault is taking Nissan's technology and leaving them with hideous designs. All the current European Nissans are showing their trip down the ugly tree (Primera (http://www.nissan.co.uk/fleet/img/sections/cars/primera.jpg) vs renault megane (http://www.renault.co.uk/PUD/GB/PROD_GB/MEL_PROD/en/660008_vn_ms2_wp_800_02.jpeg))

So in Nissan's current philosophy, if the new 240SX is to be a "world car" it will be an ugly french body on a Nissan engineered frame. :mad: :rolleyes: And those Renault bastards even shut down Nissan's try at F1.

-Matt

[rainier]

the exterior is ugly

[SimpleS14]

I highly doubt the car will look like that....but when it does come out...how many of us would buy it?

By that time....I will be looking at an Infiniti M45 (2nd gen).

must be Nissan North America thats designing it... i dont really like Nissan North America's designs....

You don't like the 350Z or Titan? :wtf:

[mjjstang]

Holy Shit Thats The Uglyest Fucking Car Ive Ever Seen.

[wootwoot]

i really dont think its that bad at all. it is a 240sx as in what it was to the 300zx. it is basically the less sporty 350z from how iam looking at it. the body lines are incredibly similar of that of the z's since chances are they trying to use as many parts off of it as possible and make it resemble it. it is a stubbier 350z that has also been raised in height. imagine what this could be! it will share the suspension of the 350z and EVERY part will practically be interchangable. i forsee the ride height would possibly be that low since it is damn low on the z but i do imagine that the wheels it gets will be even more ew than what it has now. i kind of suspect the engine to be a vq30de since they are just loving those vq series engines recently. cosmetically it would look much better if they color matched the lower grill and did something about that horrible grill that all of the newer nissans have. they want this to be the z for the poor man as the 240sx has always been seen in my eyes.
yes i do think it would make more sense to play off of the s15 chassis but this looks like the way they are going so your going to have to suck it up as will i = (
i do also think that they should change the name of it. the only way it should be a 240sx is if it has a 2.4 liter, i hope they are smart enough to remember that little rule they have imposed on themselves. if they do put a n/a engine in there, it better have vvti and have decently high compression(10.5-1 minimum!!) otherwise i will be whickidly pissed.

[phrozen]

accord coupe/tc/g35/350z... thing looks fat... its not a 240 as far as im concerned

[240silvia]

GOD, I want to delete this post just so I don't have to look at that damn thing. THAT is NOT a 240.

[CKAMC]

Here is some inside from some guys I know that work at nissan dealerships out here

*Quote* The 2007 250SX will be RWD, aluminum body, 2.5L (QR25DEw/Turbo) and 6-speed trans with a factory 2-way LSD. Expect it to be under $23,000. I was at the dealer today and that's what the head salesman told me.

*quote from second guy*
I went down there today and asked the same thing! Actually they told me it would be available with the 175hp Sentra SE-R motor for around $19,000 to compete with the Civic Si, and the turbo motor was just the upper market option to compete with the SRT-4. Since the SRT-4 has a LSD that's why Nissan had to put one in the 250SX.

[KiDyNomiTe]

*Quote* The 2007 250SX will be RWD, aluminum body, 2.5L (QR25DEw/Turbo) and 6-speed trans with a factory 2-way LSD. .
:confused: Are they gonna make the edition with the 2 way a limited one (or atleast an add on) cuz if its a standard thing winters will not be fun for the average driver. Even rain will screw people up. But I am sure it won't be very aggressive, as long as you can add more plates in it.

[andrave]

I've seen the drawings of the GTR, and the drawings of the 240sx..
looks like when I graduate law school, I will not be putting any money towards a new nissan.
then again, everyone is trying to make their cars look like total ass. Ferrari enzo, awesome car but looks like shit. nissan's 350z roadster is blessed with an ass even a mother couldn't love. chevy managed to make the vette look ugly, pretty difficult considering how good the c5 looked. The new 300c and that wagon thing from dodge/chrylser both look like total shit, although I hear they are better than chryslers of the past. The new subarus are all supposed to have that ugly as hell front grille that we have all seen in the magazines. The new saabs are all based on the subarus. the new hondas just all look so generic I can't stand it. Bangle just went and fucked up every BMW. Mercedes only attractive products are 10k more than anything else in their categories, toyota hasn't produced any car worth buying since the supra TT, lexus are tuned for 60 old men with hemerrrhoids, and all the new cadillacs look like broken shards of glass.
Lets be honest, if you want a decent looking RWD car you might be stuck with a ford mustang. cheap, relatively quick, great aftermarket support, and the new ones (IMO) look pretty darned good. Keep in mind I am into imports and my brother into fords so its in my blood to detest them.

[Phlip]

^^^ Subjective opinions, don't represent what everyone thinks... Many others, including myself, find the Corvette to be quite attractive, as well as a couple others out of the cars you named... I do, however, find that "240SX" to be ugly as sin, and highly unlikely to happen, especially if anyone thinks it will have a QR25 with a turbo, that would make it perform too well in comparison to the Z and therefore make IT hard to sell... I don't see it priced around $19k in position to compete with the Civic Si either, seeing as how that would render a perfectly sellable Sentra unsellable. Trust, Nissan Motors doesn't give a shit about people on the internet and how cool they think drifting is, especially not enough to trust that the internet drifters would buy a new car to take out and thrash.

[exitspeed]

[QUOTE=CKAMC]Here is some inside from some guys I know that work at nissan dealerships out here

QUOTE]


Your gonna listen to some guys at a dealership? :duh: :mepoke:

[MakotoS13]

wanna know who knows the LEAST about cars at a dealership? THE SALESMEN

that's the LAST person you wanna talk to if credible information is what your after.

[nismo2491]

real cute. let me just say this. guys at dealerships are the last guys to know until its finalized. also the fact that my brother is a sales manager for a Nissan dealer as well as on the market analysis team for his region and his personal words were nissan doesn't have anything even remotely set in stone on whether they are going to make or not make another rwd sports car to go under the 350z.
KEvin

[exitspeed]

One of you photoshop guys should make the roof line lower and extend the body to make it look a liettle longer. I think it'll look alot better. I'm dieing to so what that would look like.

[NISMOoPW]

...nissan doesn't have anything even remotely set in stone on whether they are going to make or not make another rwd sports car to go under the 350z.
KEvin

Sounds good, I don't want a "new 240" tempting me when the GT-R comes. I'd love for it to be exactly as described, but it would still look like shit compared to the old S13s and the newer S15. They won't bring back a fastback, so it's not like I'd be buying it anyways... :down:

Oh, and to the post just above, yeah, a photoshop contest would be neat, if I had any skill, I'd try to design a new fastback. MS Paint...here we go! :x:

[s13dan]

Ugly, but i wish the would birng the 240 back, maybe with the QR25 (is that what it is?) the new Sentra motor but RWD and turbo... and not ugly as shit..

[exitspeed]

real cute. let me just say this. guys at dealerships are the last guys to know until its finalized. also the fact that my brother is a sales manager for a Nissan dealer as well as on the market analysis team for his region and his personal words were nissan doesn't have anything even remotely set in stone on whether they are going to make or not make another rwd sports car to go under the 350z.
KEvin


The biggest problem with car salemen is the fact that they don't GIVE A FUCK about the CARS. They could care less. They are just there to make money. This is the reason why I stay in furniture sales instead of going into car sales, even though my #1 obsession is cars. I don't want to ruin my love of cars.

[240dreamer]

Looks like a stub-nosed 350z... no good for a 240 remake. Oh well, dosen't matter what that concept is for as long as it stays just that. A concept. /bleh .02$

[nismo2491]

I used to sell cars for over a year and I loved the cars. I worked for ford and I've always been a ford guy my whole life. I won every walkaround competition they did because I could do the best walkaround and had the best product knowledge too. and I never pressured anybody into something they didn't want. probably why I didn't make real good money working there.
KEvin

[exitspeed]

I used to sell cars for over a year and I loved the cars. I worked for ford and I've always been a ford guy my whole life. I won every walkaround competition they did because I could do the best walkaround and had the best product knowledge too. and I never pressured anybody into something they didn't want. probably why I didn't make real good money working there.
KEvin


Thats exactly my point. If you really care about the cars or the customer best interest your fucked in car sales. I've known so many people over teh years that have sold cars and it's just a rotton, cutthroat business. Defintaly nothing I want to get into.

[old_s13]

2-way LSD huh?

what PRODUCTION car that is reasonably priced comes with factory 2-way LSD, please tell me.. I'm curious.

240SX isnt coming back, and if it is.. it'll be a while before we see it.

[OptionZero]

first, i call bullshit, and second, I wanna know what mag this was.

RWD, turbo, 2-way LSD? UNDER 23k? How many strikes does it NEED against it coming into production, jeez?

I thought we had thoroughly discussed how between the Sentra and the 350Z base, there was little room, especially for a turbo RWD car

[that180guy]

Here is some inside from some guys I know that work at nissan dealerships out here

*Quote* The 2007 250SX will be RWD, aluminum body, 2.5L (QR25DEw/Turbo) and 6-speed trans with a factory 2-way LSD. Expect it to be under $23,000. I was at the dealer today and that's what the head salesman told me.

*quote from second guy*
I went down there today and asked the same thing! Actually they told me it would be available with the 175hp Sentra SE-R motor for around $19,000 to compete with the Civic Si, and the turbo motor was just the upper market option to compete with the SRT-4. Since the SRT-4 has a LSD that's why Nissan had to put one in the 250SX.

all i gotta say is, a whole lotta people are gonna die.
i cant see a 2way lsd coming stock, thats just crazy....regular joe....gas's lets off gas, turn....slide into wall

[MakotoS13]

why the hell would nissan be building so many N/A apps then shuck all that in favor of a turboed sports car that would rival the Z?

there is no answer because they wouldn't. it's a stupid notion and anyoine that buys into it is living in a ricer fantasy world.

[exitspeed]

why the hell would nissan be building so many N/A apps then shuck all that in favor of a turboed sports car that would rival the Z?

there is no answer because they wouldn't. it's a stupid notion and anyoine that buys into it is living in a ricer fantasy world.


Well godamn, people can hope, can't they? :rolleyes: I don't believe shit personally until I SEE IT IN PERSON. But it's fun to do a little wishful thinking every now and then. Relax dude.....

[Andrew Bohan]

thats just crazy....regular joe....gas's lets off gas, turn....slide into wall

or off a cliff

[CKAMC]

so how was nissan doing as in sales when they had the b13 sentra se-r along with the s13 and the z32 out there? *b13 has the na sr20 only for the se-r edition and the s13 got... well we all know... and the z32 came with the vg30 na or vg30 t*.... so what exactly happened? did things not go well to the fact that they dont want to attempt it again? im just curious... i think that doing all that and the GTR will bring nissan to the top.

[exitspeed]

so how was nissan doing as in sales when they had the b13 sentra se-r along with the s13 and the z32 out there? *b13 has the na sr20 only for the se-r edition and the s13 got... well we all know... and the z32 came with the vg30 na or vg30 t*.... so what exactly happened? did things not go well to the fact that they dont want to attempt it again? im just curious... i think that doing all that and the GTR will bring nissan to the top.


Yea Nissan was just in VERY VERY bad shape at that time. They were close to filling bankruptcy. They were were Mitsu is right now. But now their an awsome suscess!

[IGSDann]

The hood looks way too short on it, I doubt that's close to the production (if produced), think of how much the concept GT-R Skyline has changed to the recent GT-R Concept. I think if a newer 240sx is produced it's gonna be a combination of current Nissan Z styling with some of the most popular S13.4.5 styling hints, it's just too soon to tell...

[DaveSev]

Looks like a cross between a Z, G35, and TC....

....Ugly.

[andrave]

yeah nissan already has altima sales cutting into the maxima's sales, and the infinti G35 overlaps both those car's markets by a healthy margin. With the spec V, the altima SER coming, the maxima being sold as the 4 door sports car, the infiniti being sold as a real 4 door sports car...
I dunno, there just isn't much room for a sporty 2 seater below the Z. It wouldn't share a platform with anything. just doesn't make sense for nissan america right now.

[Phlip]

But it's fun to do a little wishful thinking every now and then. Relax dude.....
Wishful thinking? I don't know about you, but my wishful thinking doesn't include things that are so overtly unrealistic that I might find myself wishing for something that would not be good for any of the parties involved.

[S14DB]

The dealers around here have the Altima SE-R in stock. I shat in one this weekend.

[Zoom8112]

The dealers around here have the Altima SE-R in stock. I shat in one this weekend.


i dont really see the point in the altima SE-R. its priced in the same range as the lower model 350z's. I sure as hell would rather have a 350z.

[MakotoS13]

gimme a 350Z with LSD and call it a day :)

[nismo2491]

i dont really see the point in the altima SE-R. its priced in the same range as the lower model 350z's. I sure as hell would rather have a 350z.
for the family that can't afford the maxima but wants a sporty sedan.
KEvin

[Sanchi]

for the family that can't afford the maxima but wants a sporty sedan.
KEvin


ditto!! thats exactly what its marketed as too!! That pix is fugly and ya it does look like the new TC. also the new Corvette is HOTNESS!!!! :bowdown:

[exitspeed]

Wishful thinking? I don't know about you, but my wishful thinking doesn't include things that are so overtly unrealistic that I might find myself wishing for something that would not be good for any of the parties involved.

Yea, but we don't know that at this point. Who knows what the hell this things gonna be IF it ever gets here.

[MakotoS13]

DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH. if you think they're gonna build something to come close to the Z you're outta your mind. they built the Z the way it is so anybody with reasonable income could afford one. it's a bargain at 28K (or so) with an LSD and a great platform for those of us that WILL tinker with the hooker. if they DID build a RWD sports car under the Z it'd have to start at like 23K and definately woudl NOT be turbocharged.

i would love to see the Spec-V motor in a RWD 2700lb application but counting on that is like waitin for the real killers to get found by OJ.

[SimpleS14]

If Nissan really made something like this.....do you really think it would be available in the states?

As of right now...I don't see a market for this car...and if it did come out for the 2007 model year....alot of people would look twice at a used 350Z.

[Phlip]

DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH. if you think they're gonna build something to come close to the Z you're outta your mind. they built the Z the way it is so anybody with reasonable income could afford one. it's a bargain at 28K (or so) with an LSD and a great platform for those of us that WILL tinker with the hooker. if they DID build a RWD sports car under the Z it'd have to start at like 23K and definately woudl NOT be turbocharged.

i would love to see the Spec-V motor in a RWD 2700lb application but counting on that is like waitin for the real killers to get found by OJ.
Egg-zac-aly what I was saying here (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=585407&postcount=44)... And for the record I think that OJ is looking for the real killers diligently as anyone of YOU in his same position might.

[zeek]

hypothetical dont mean jack, concepts are concepts and NNA is not going to screw with z sales by adding something lower in the bracket.

[andrave]

well, actually you might be wrong... because the Z is a two seater only, and the 2+2 g35 coupe is a more premium product.
so if nissan wanted to produce a niche market 2+2 light(er) weight car, powered by a 4 cyl, there might be a market for it. I was thinking about this since I read that last post. Well.. sentra serspec V tops out at a little over 20k, or so? I'm not sure, car never appealed to me much. z starts high 20s. so if you had one, priced (as the original 240's were) mid ine... maybe 23-28,000...
you might be able to sell it to people that are buying miatas and shit. *shrugs*
just offering a different opinion.
anyway even if they made a car (which would be cool) I stil hope it isn't that concept.

[OptionZero]

You lose money on sports cars. Unless Nissan is rolling in it at the moment, I don't think they risk even the possibility of repeating what happened in the '90's with the GT-R, 3Z, and Silvia.


Now, if say, by 2007, they wanted to overhaul the lineup a bit:
Drop the Sentra to 17k range max, kill the Spec V, leave the SE-R, leave it as a sporty, cheap 4dr FWD sedan, possibly even a coupe. Competes with Focus, Corolla, Civic, Mazda 3, Tc, Lancer

Leave the Altima as the 16-25 range range midsize sedan. Competes with Accord, Mazda 6, Camry, etc

Maxima goes to 25-28k large sedan. No SE-R version. Toyota Avalon equivalent.

350Z, where it is as 26-35k range Nissan icon car. fights: new RX-7, Mustang, undercuts the corvette, etc

270SX, rwd qr27ve (or something...), 18-23 range depending on options, rwd, 2+2, fights RSX and WRX

G35: fights IS330, TSX, 3-series as entry level luxury sedan, 29-35k, smaller than the maxima

Nissan Quest:...do we care? ...

this has been mentioned before, i'm just trying to paint a picture of how a "240sx" successor might possibly come to fruitiion

[machoonthetop]

^^^ i was thinking the same thing. since this car isnt slated for release until 07. alot of things could change in the nissan lineup and we have no idea what those changes will be or if they will change at all. only the powers that be at nissan could know if a successor to the 240 will be realeased.all we can do is hope and pray for a capable successor to the 240sx

[CKAMC]

^^^ ditto and that it wont look bad *someone please ask nissan to rethink or go back to the s-chassis* and put in some sort of engine *i dought VE simply because ve's are kind od expensive to produce* hell they gave us the KA over the SR and people managed to turbo it and enjoy it.

[wootwoot]

and why wouldnt this car be released in america? it is being designed by americans isnt it?....

[nightwalker]

Actually, Nissan is working on releasing a 2 door Maxima to compete with the Accord. That's the only 2 door in the works. Nothing of another 240.

[andrave]

when are they gonna kill the sentra anyway? its dated and it sucks.

[RadicalEdward]

Takes toaster into bathroom

What Magazine was it in? It looks nothing like any S-chasis...

first, i call bullshit, and second, I wanna know what mag this was...

it was in SPEED magazine...aparently it's new. (sorry about the late reply been busy)
-Ed

edit: i spell like suck

[SimpleS14]

andrave - For what I know....the Miata is the only "affordable" RWD car that survived the 90's...but as you can see...its a market that is there mainly because comparable cars signifigantly cost more. I don't see a slot for this car purely because the market it would compete with a not significantly higher priced and would compete with its own product (350Z). NOW....with how the market is going...I can see a nicer Sentra coupe (or 5-dr) being produced.

Actually, Nissan is working on releasing a 2 door Maxima to compete with the Accord. That's the only 2 door in the works. Nothing of another 240.


I believe its the Altima.....but...lets not talk about that....

[Sup]

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[Andrew Bohan]

why, god, why?

[Baka Sama]

It looks alittle too high but over all I kinda like it. Hatch back too. Put it under 20k and Ill rock it.

[silvarshootin]

Why is it that every new(prototype) car has to look futuristic with all kinds of crazy body lines and fucked up lights. I hate the pictures and pray that nissan does not produce this. I would love to see another s-chassis car but feel that they could do so much better.

[proj240sx]

ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly....so damn fugly. yack.

[sykikchimp]

I've heard the miata is end of lifed. So soon it will also die out.

But if you look at market trends. Lots of companies are building 20-30K sports cars. They are image cars. Not usually meat and potatoes, but they get people to come to the lots, and buy other cars. Sports cars are necessary b/c the brand becomes bland without them. Look at Toyota. The 350Z fills this hole. What the 240sx did was bring young buyers right out of college, etc into the dealerships. Lusting for 300zx performance but with a budget. They didn't want 4-doors, or "economy" in the image. They wanted the 300zx image with some of the sentra "economy" underneath.

Also, nissan has plans for releasing a Sentra coupe. So I think this is likely the closest thing to a Silvia we will get for a while.

I will continue my nightly prayers for ANYONE to release a car comparable to the JDM 180sx... anyone?

Right now I'm considering the new mustang, but the rear suspension completely turns me off. Maybe if BMW releases their 1-series. That MIGHT be a sweet alternative.

..but I will not give up hope for Nissan. one day... one day.

[tastyratz]

its a sad sad day seeing that... it looks like it should be a frigging electric car! hello rwd prius here we come! (yo i got these drift spec batteries yo!)

[Frappe]

If you took about 12" off of the overall height, while making the doors less tall and the glass taller, and got rid of the ugly, ugly lower-grill.

And those really uninspired taillights, replace those.

And maybe used wheels that shouted "PERFORMANCE" instead of "Bling Bling!"

Then I'd like it.
As it is now, it looks like the Lexus RX330's aborted fetus.

[Shin_Kudo]

its a sad sad day seeing that... it looks like it should be a frigging electric car! hello rwd prius here we come! (yo i got these drift spec batteries yo!)

Hey, don't look down on electric power for drifting, the motors have an assload of torque, and both the torque and power curves are totally flat through the RPM range.

[tastyratz]

power? oh they have power? damn i missed that! where do they keep that mythical power in electrics?

[Phlip]

"power" no, "torque" yes... Electric motors make less "power" for their size compared to a conventional gasoline/internal combustion engine, but are more than capable of doing 'work' which will play itself out to torque, which is more what would make them comparatively useable in a real-life situation, getting on a highway onramp, than an assload of horsepower would.

[Shin_Kudo]

Also, there's nothing saying electric motors can't have power. There are motors in trains putting out 1500 horespower, and the really crazy bullet trains have even more.

[meatish]

Good, ill just do a train conversion on my car.
Does no one know the downside of batteries?! They have to be CHARGED. Normally, a hybrid charges it's batteries using the kinetic energy from the car being pushed around by the gas engine. The 'electric' motor is really just a supplement. Now, 'true' electric cars have to be charged, and they have a maximum driving range of less than a full tank of gas, depending on # of batteries and other factors. Bullet trains, etc., are fed energy through the giant metal rails they sit on. Electric motors in cars are pretty damn useless.. alternate fuels are the way of the future; here at SDSU, there is an engineering prof. who built a car that runs on natural oils that makes around 280hp! It's all about the vegetable-oil spec race cars now.

[Inland180]

pretty ugly 240sx for 2007!!!

[Shin_Kudo]

Good, ill just do a train conversion on my car.
Does no one know the downside of batteries?! They have to be CHARGED. Normally, a hybrid charges it's batteries using the kinetic energy from the car being pushed around by the gas engine. The 'electric' motor is really just a supplement. Now, 'true' electric cars have to be charged, and they have a maximum driving range of less than a full tank of gas, depending on # of batteries and other factors. Bullet trains, etc., are fed energy through the giant metal rails they sit on. Electric motors in cars are pretty damn useless.. alternate fuels are the way of the future; here at SDSU, there is an engineering prof. who built a car that runs on natural oils that makes around 280hp! It's all about the vegetable-oil spec race cars now.

Yeah, of course the batteries are a major limitation. I was just saying that electric motors don't necessarily have no power. However, many locomotives are essentially hybrids, with a diesel generator powering electric motors. Also, electric trains (except subways) are powered by overhead wires. Imagine the problems that could result from the rails being electrified.

[weirdstyles.net]

I posted this on freshalloy as well, i felt it nessecary to calm you all down...

The picture you are seeing there and Road and Track are confused about is the Nissan Azeal, set to debut at the '05 Detroit Auto Show...

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/2005autoshows_nissan/800px/azeal.jpg

Courtesy of NissanNews.com

[Dweezil]

Now I have a reason to go to the auto show this year. I have got to see this thing, and if it's there I'll try to get pictures up.

[TiNMAN]

looks like the Z had a threesome with the G and the TC :eek:

[240Stilo]

Finally someone mentioned it was an Azeal. Sucks for whoever was wrong in writing the magazine...they should be fired.

[nistech]

will it be a hybrid :)

[TUnity2]

why dont they use the VQ25 and make it RWD and call it a 250sx???

[Ian]

or just make the next one out called the Silvia!

4 cyl turbo...that's how it should be

[biggie]

why dont they use the VQ25 and make it RWD and call it a 250sx???

Are you referring to the QR25, or is there a VQ25 in japan?

[exitspeed]

I can't wait to see this @ the NAIAS! Now I'm REALLY excited about going. I'll post pics of the show when I get back. Oh and I usually take about 100+ pics! Probably 10 or so will be of this thing! :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

[TiNMAN]

when is NAIAS??

[exitspeed]

when is NAIAS??


Public days are start like 1/15 and go for 2 weeks.

[weirdstyles.net]

I beleive NAIAS is the North Amearic International Auto Salon (maybe not, oh well...)

BUT Now people are excited? All I heard was how ugly it was now... ohhh ahhhh and what not...

wtf?

[drftwerks]

and i though all the other 240's were ugly

[exitspeed]

I beleive NAIAS is the North Amearic International Auto Salon (maybe not, oh well...)

BUT Now people are excited? All I heard was how ugly it was now... ohhh ahhhh and what not...

wtf?

I wasn't crazy about the last pic(yellow one), but this looks a little better even if it's the same IDK. Oh and NAIAS in North American Auto Show ;) . I'm more excited about it now becasue it's REAL. I mean how many conceptual art do you see and nver get to see a real car.