I welded my diff now my car yanks to the left hard

[Trentm27]

Title pretty much explains it. Swings like butter now 89 240sx hatch. The car pulls left hard. Is this normal? I heard it was and I just needed to adjust my tow? But I’m not sure. Was not pulling hard left until after I welded the diff

[RB25GUY]

It pulling is almost normal for a welded diff save your Pennies and get a real 2 way lsd you'll never look back.

[da_crew10]

Make sure you didn't destroy an axle. Also , sounds like you don't know what you're doing . Google and you'll find most answers. If that doesn't work just pay someone.

[EDacIouSX]

if your alignment is off that would do it.

[deolio]

are your rear tires the same size

[!Zar!]

It pulling is almost normal for a welded diff save your Pennies and get a real 2 way lsd you'll never look back.

This makes no sense.

Fake news.

[afishysilvia]

It pulling is almost normal for a welded diff save your Pennies and get a real 2 way lsd you'll never look back.

I’ve had numerous welded diffs, never had pulling. Only chatter when turning, sounds like an alignment issue or something wasn’t hooked up right.

[Alpod]

If tire sizes are different or pressures are very off in the rear it will want to pull hard to one side.

[ixfxi]

unweld the diff, should fix the problem

[DamianN.]

unweld the diff, should fix the problem

This is why I hate coming to this forum

[da_crew10]

unweld the diff, should fix the problem

He is a full time drifter though.

[flartius]

This is why I hate coming to this forum



It does suck that you come to ask for help, the whole point of the forum, and all you get is flamed. This is why I only use this to the extent of the search feature, if I can’t find my answer then I post it on Facebook groups.

Just my observation.


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[Coupes_FTW]

This is why I hate coming to this forum

Title pretty much explains it. Swings like butter now 89 240sx hatch. The car pulls left hard. Is this normal? I heard it was and I just needed to adjust my tow? But I’m not sure. Was not pulling hard left until after I welded the diff

This is why I hate coming to this forum.

Bunch of idiots. Can't afford a diff, welds his open diff. Now he's not going to be able to afford tires. Probably going to stuff his car into a tree with that shitty alignment.

I can already picture the kind of person posting this. Willing to bet if you went to the OP's facebook or instagram you'd see a herpaids 240, at least 3 different colors, cut springs or pick your color shit coilover, 17x7s and at least 2 pictures of him posing in front of his car crouched down like a cholo or standing on his shit pile of a car.

[RB25GUY]

i drove a welded diff car i guess im mistaking "pulling" for low speed chatter/ locking making u turns... it pulled on throttle the slighest bit in the rain, but hey you guys are the experts. i never had any issues with my ATS deftforce diff.. but driving a welded and a 2 way was night and day difference....

[snorkelcoupe]

"Welded my open diff"

"Tied my shoelaces together"

Same thing

[hanzbrady]

Just putting my unconstructive .02c in here. I welded my diff and ever since I've wanted a 2 way.

The vibration and general shittiness gets old quickly and this is in a track only/weekend car, I could only imagine how annoying it is in a car driven more often.

I've also noticed that the car tends to "squirm" during downshifts and this is on a fresh alignment.

[Jorgs_7]

You have an issue unrelated to the welded differential - so I think. I have a welded diff. Drives straight as can be.

Are you super duper low? Axles binding? Have you gone through the rear arms/bushings/etc?

Yeah yeah, yada yada welded diffs are cheap and suck. We all know this. Bottom line is, still works.

[SimpleSexy180]

Either you've harnessed some super power, and the likely it's an alignment maybe? I wouldn't drive anywhere. It's not raining for a long time. So weldds are crap unless you've known to drive for a long time.

[tuzzio]

This is why I hate coming to this forum

This is why I like coming to this forum. Learn to laugh a bit, and you'll gain plenty of knowledge. Act like a dipshit or be from florida (which are the same things) and you won't last.

Anyways. I've had a welded and a kaaz. My welded is significantly more comfortable than my 2 way in almost every instance.

[KAT-PWR]

This is why I like coming to this forum. Learn to laugh a bit, and you'll gain plenty of knowledge. Act like a dipshit or be from florida (which are the same things) and you won't last.

Anyways. I've had a welded and a kaaz. My welded is significantly more comfortable than my 2 way in almost every instance.

That is perplexing. You must not drive your car often on the street?
Unlocking the diff is what makes the two way incredible for street driving. Supermarket parking, turning around, really any kind of turning.
When I was pulling into the bank yesterday it has the angled parking spots that correspond with the side of the road you're on, so the spots on the left are like 115* from you if driving up the right side of the road. I saw an open spot, clutched In, made my sharp low speed turn silently.
I chuckled and said "fuck a welded" also, tire wear.

[Ratpack_Chad]

Anyways. I've had a welded and a kaaz. My welded is significantly more comfortable than my 2 way in almost every instance.

My current s13 has a Kaaz 2 way and my s14 has always had a welded. I'm dailying the 13 now and its extremely annoying. Lots of clunking and popping and general noise. I agree with my welded being more comfortable and subtle. Also I change the diff fluid every 3k miles with KAAZ fluid it makes a difference for the first day or so then it goes back to being loud. I daily drove my s14 for years on a welded with no issues.

[!Zar!]

The issue is not the welded diff.

Anyone who thinks a 2way will fix this problem is wrong.

This issue is with alignment or tire size/pressure,

[tuzzio]

That is perplexing. You must not drive your car often on the street?


My car sees only the street and I average about 6K miles a year. See below.

its extremely annoying. Lots of clunking and popping and general noise. I agree with my welded being more comfortable and subtle.

[RalliartRsX]

Welds diff because #race-ka
Complains because functions like a shittily slapped together #donkey-ka(rt)

Coincidence??

In all honesty, the diff the probably not your problem. However, there is a reason NO OEM or any company for that fact develops welded diffs. It was a technique developed by cars that have no emphasis on car dynamics apart from going straight.

Either way, check your alignment, bushings, suspension.........then proceed to burn it to the ground because #donkey-ka(rt)

Win win.


It does suck that you come to ask for help, the whole point of the forum, and all you get is flamed. This is why I only use this to the extent of the search feature, if I can’t find my answer then I post it on Facebook groups.

Just my observation.


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This is why I hate coming to this forum

Bye Felicia......

If a splash of reality is too much or you want to be spoon fed and have your arses wiped by the staff......this is not the place for you. The exit is up and to your right if you are lost.

IJS

[RalliartRsX]

P.S I am surprised by how tame the responses have been in actuality hahahahahahah!!

OP got off lightly :)

[SilentSamurai8]

P.S I am surprised by how tame the responses have been in actuality hahahahahahah!!

OP got off lightly :)

From my experience on this forum I'd have to second this opinion.

[ixfxi]

This is why I hate coming to this forum

What are you complaining about, you're not even the original poster?

The guy's problem is that the car pulls ever since he welded the diff. Revert and install a proper differential, problem solved. Easy.

Fuckin idiot.

[Coupes_FTW]

This is why I like coming to this forum. Learn to laugh a bit, and you'll gain plenty of knowledge. Act like a dipshit or be from florida (which are the same things) and you won't last.

Anyways. I've had a welded and a kaaz. My welded is significantly more comfortable than my 2 way in almost every instance.

you're a dipshit.

[RalliartRsX]

you're a dipshit.

NO. tuzzio is actually pretty spot on. The Kaaz is inherently loud and clanky in every single aspect. I think you have to either use Kaaz special diff fluid or dino (140w or whatever) dino gear fluid to quiet it down "some". Not entirely. But some. Just rolling through a parking lots causes all sorts of wild horse bucking and nasty gear noises. Fuck dat life!

Just because it works doesn't mean it doesn't suck at everything else.

[turboshoebox]

"Welded my open diff"

"Tied my shoelaces together"

Same thing

Lmao son mijo

[afishysilvia]

Lol the OP hasn’t posted once since the initial....what a shit show

[JM216S14]

This is great! I love this forum. All the turds from the Facebook group are scared to come here because there is way to much common sense in here.

[Coupes_FTW]

NO. tuzzio is actually pretty spot on. The Kaaz is inherently loud and clanky in every single aspect. I think you have to either use Kaaz special diff fluid or dino (140w or whatever) dino gear fluid to quiet it down "some". Not entirely. But some. Just rolling through a parking lots causes all sorts of wild horse bucking and nasty gear noises. Fuck dat life!

Just because it works doesn't mean it doesn't suck at everything else.

you're only convincing the FB kids reading this that a welded diff is more comfortable than a 2-way.

if you have any sort of finesse with the clutch a 2 way is not more "uncomfortable" than a welded diff, because, you know, you can unlock the shit with your clutch pedal

[beems240sx]

i just reshimmed a vlsd, hands down the best diff i have ever had... and i got it for $30 "blown" plus like $20 for the shims. very quiet and locks nicely

[Coupes_FTW]

i just reshimmed a vlsd, hands down the best diff i have ever had... and i got it for $30 "blown" plus like $20 for the shims. very quiet and locks nicely

pretty sure you're driving around on an open diff.

[RalliartRsX]

you're only convincing the FB kids reading this that a welded diff is more comfortable than a 2-way.

if you have any sort of finesse with the clutch a 2 way is not more "uncomfortable" than a welded diff, because, you know, you can unlock the shit with your clutch pedal

Wrong

Have you driven a Kaaz 2 way?? Clutch (gearbox) and Diff are not mutually exclusive. The Kaaz has an inherent operation which has no bearing or is affected by clutch.

And please distinguish between comfortable and operation. The welded diff doesnt clunk bang and pop (comfort). The 2 day is loud, obnoxious and annoying (not comfortable)

Outside of that, the 2 way OPERATES better than a welded diff. The welded diff is an absolute shit idea in and out.

[afishysilvia]

Mine is this big 8=================================}

Have we gotten back to the main purspose of the thread? OP please stop the damn nonsense and get back to us what you find, as silly as it might be....

[KAT-PWR]

Do KAAZ diffs have a lot of preload or something? That's the only way I could think that it wouldn't function as a two way should (clunking even when clutch is in)

[RalliartRsX]

Do KAAZ diffs have a lot of preload or something? That's the only way I could think that it wouldn't function as a two way should (clunking even when clutch is in)

I am going to emphasis this again; the gearbox clutch has no effect on diff operation. They are only coupled by a long ass tube. Nothing else.

Its all to do with the clutch plates and how the diff functions. Shimming will not fix it.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=332229

2 Way diff thread and all the folks experiencing these issues. Normal SOP for a Kaaz way............

[humancola]

Sadly, even if there is an advertiser special on proper diffs... granted I've been rolling a VLSD for ages, i doubt it even locks much anymore.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=654532

[RalliartRsX]

Cheaper than a quafe

[derass]

Wrong

Have you driven a Kaaz 2 way?? Clutch (gearbox) and Diff are not mutually exclusive. The Kaaz has an inherent operation which has no bearing or is affected by clutch.

And please distinguish between comfortable and operation. The welded diff doesnt clunk bang and pop (comfort). The 2 day is loud, obnoxious and annoying (not comfortable)

Gonna have to disagree with you here.

A cam-type mechanical diff needs torque input to lock. This drives the spider gear cross-shaft into the cam ramps, forcing the clutch packs together, and locks the 2 output shafts. That torque comes from the engine accelerating the car, or the car decelerating against the engine.

When the clutch is disengaged, very little torque is being transmitted to the diff.

With the clutch in and decelerating, the only torque transmitted through the driveshaft to the diff would be generated by the friction of the constant-mesh gear box, hanger bearing, u-joints, etc. This is a very low value and not enough to lock the clutches, in my experience with my KAAZ 2-way.

Hell, the locking effect on decel is very subtle even with full torque. The locking effect is quite pronounced when accelerating through a turn at low speeds however. For example, pulling into/out of a spot in a parking lot. That requires a tight turning radius, so there is a large differential in rear wheel outputs, and a very high torque input from the torque multiplication of being in first gear. The result: alternating sounds of the inside tire skidding, and the clutches popping as they slowly slip past each other, fighting the cams and input torque.

And for the other side of the equation, with the clutch in, obviously the vehicle cannot accelerate, and so the diff would be operating on its deceleration ramps as described above.

Outside of that, the 2 way OPERATES better than a welded diff. The welded diff is an absolute shit idea in and out.

I agree with you wholeheartedly here. A 2-way certainly has it's maintenance and comfort drawbacks, but there's no denying it's operation is superior to that of a welded diff.

[oLemurs]

damn you all are assholes, maybe this is why the forums are dying. there are many reasons why people choose a welded over LSD even if they have the money for an LSD they choose welded. for one a welded is very reliable for drifting, you know its always locked up unlike an lsd. for two lsd's wear internally and eventually you will have to take it apart and replace the clutches. the same could be said about tires but with tires you dont have to take anything apart. for a daily i do agree an LSD would be better but for a drift car/ weekend car a welded will be just fine.

[PowerDrifter]

LGfbqSakkfg
hmmm maybe a welded diff wasent the best idea for drag racing. i lose traction on every gear. Its plate welded and been fine for 5 years. Thinking maybe 2 way

[beems240sx]

pretty sure you're driving around on an open diff.

Pretty sure you're an idiot.

[Kingtal0n]

i thought a "spool" was the right way to do a welded. The reason people shit on welded- is because its been welded by who knows who and how? You weld something and you had better X-ray it, take samples, measure temperatures, i.e. when they pour concrete for buildings samples get sent for a stress test and they break it in a machine and record the force it takes, all this data you will might/need to be sure the result is going to take the stress of the racing abuse- And you are going to drive this thing around a race track of some kind without that data?


unnecessary risk

[JM216S14]

damn you all are assholes, maybe this is why the forums are dying. there are many reasons why people choose a welded over LSD even if they have the money for an LSD they choose welded. for one a welded is very reliable for drifting, you know its always locked up unlike an lsd. for two lsd's wear internally and eventually you will have to take it apart and replace the clutches. the same could be said about tires but with tires you dont have to take anything apart. for a daily i do agree an LSD would be better but for a drift car/ weekend car a welded will be just fine.

Wrong. This forum is a wealth of knowledge and if you have thick enough skin and don’t need safe spot on the internet you can learn a lot and maybe even contribute. A lot of these guys have been in the “game” before 240s where hoonibro cool. Then for some reason all the hillbilly white trash had to turn drifting into dukes of hazzard and nascar (remake with Johnny Knoxville and that other dude) and ruin these s chassis cars as well as raise the price for everyone who actually thought it was a solid platform...


So no they aren’t “assholes” they are purists who just enjoy a solid platform.

[wolfpack]

damn you all are assholes, maybe this is why the forums are dying. there are many reasons why people choose a welded over LSD even if they have the money for an LSD they choose welded. for one a welded is very reliable for drifting, you know its always locked up unlike an lsd. for two lsd's wear internally and eventually you will have to take it apart and replace the clutches. the same could be said about tires but with tires you dont have to take anything apart. for a daily i do agree an LSD would be better but for a drift car/ weekend car a welded will be just fine.

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[tricky_ab]

damn you all are assholes, maybe this is why the forums are dying. there are many reasons why people choose a welded over LSD even if they have the money for an LSD they choose welded. for one a welded is very reliable for drifting, you know its always locked up unlike an lsd. for two lsd's wear internally and eventually you will have to take it apart and replace the clutches. the same could be said about tires but with tires you dont have to take anything apart. for a daily i do agree an LSD would be better but for a drift car/ weekend car a welded will be just fine.

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[KAT-PWR]

I'm with Derass. I clutch in my Nismo is silent on tight parking lot turn-ins. However when backing out riding the clutch the diff pops. If I give the car some momentum and quickly clutch back in it goes back to silent.

[Bnr32gtr]

I dd a welded diff for over 3 years, 30 miles one way 5 days a week. Never had a problem, just would get weird looks at gas stations/ in paring lots. To get back on topic I think the op needs a alignment or maybe has two different tires on the rear. I've had my fair share of welded diffs and never once did the car pull to one side. Just sayin

[Tempo]

I saw an open spot, clutched In, made my sharp low speed turn silently.
I chuckled and said "fuck a welded" also, tire wear.

This!! Me every fackin' time! lol. I didn't say those exact words but its the little moments with the 2 way that are what remind you why welded sucks ass :x: