Jumping on the bandwagon

[axiomatik]

Well, since it seems like everyone has been doing it lately, I thought I would do the trendy thing and finally introduce myself. My name's Nick and I've got an '89 coupe, light green/charcoal two-tone. I got into 240's in 1989 when my mom bought the car new. Unfortunately, she totalled it in 1995, but the damage was really only superficial, so I bought it back and have owned it since. So, basically, I think almost all of you are a bunch of bandwagon-hoppers, but that's fine, because you couldn't find jack squat for our cars back in 1998.

Anyway, here's what I've got so far:

Redtop SR20DET
HKS intake
HKS downpipe
N1 Duals
NGK Iridium spark plugs
Eibach Pro-Kits
KYB AGX's
Greddy front stb
Pilot short-shifter
17x7 Enkei TBS-11's on Kumho MX's

I know it's pretty weak, but it's a work in progress (and has been for nine years, you'd think more would be done by now).

Here's some pics:
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/04.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/03.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/02.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/05.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/01.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/06.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/07.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/08.jpg

[rainier]

you think most of us are a bunch of bandwagon hoppers because our moms didnt buy a 240 when it first came out. good one. but nice car anyways.

[zeek]

pretty clean engine bay sortof

[Phlip]

Hi, my name is Phillip and I am better than you because I was in position to buy my mother's totalled 240SX before most of you were even old enough to care that it existed... Nevermind me thinking about asking about the people here or taking a look into what they may know and actually completing the fundamental task of having a reason for assuming that people are a certain way, i will just start a thread about it and disrespect a whole forum, have a nice life.

[axiomatik]

Hi, my name is Phillip and I am better than you because I was in position to buy my mother's totalled 240SX before most of you were even old enough to care that it existed... Nevermind me thinking about asking about the people here or taking a look into what they may know and actually completing the fundamental task of having a reason for assuming that people are a certain way, i will just start a thread about it and disrespect a whole forum, have a nice life.

Damn, you take things entirely too seriously. Bandwagon-hopping is such a recurrent theme here that I just had to poke a little fun at it. No disrespect to anyone.

[zeek]

hahahhahh forums are so much fun

[Phlip]

Damn, you take things entirely too seriously. Bandwagon-hopping is such a recurrent theme here that I just had to poke a little fun at it. No disrespect to anyone.

hahahhahh forums are so much fun

... 'nuff said, get over yourself dude

[axiomatik]

Apparently, despite my explanation, you still don't realize that I was being sarcastic in my first post. I don't care when anyone got their car, and I certainly don't think I am better than anyone just because I bought my car in '95. Actually, the whole reason I was poking fun at the bandwagon issue is that I think it is absurd to ridicule someone just because they bought their 240 recently. In fact, I think that it is pretty sad that, despite owning my car for nine years, I haven't hardly done anything to it compared to half of the people here. Jesus, you'd think I had personally attacked you by name. Get over yourself.

[HyperTek]

ur wheels are sign of "I just picked up an import tuner and had to get some rims yo!" .. anyways.. nice car. welcome to the boards. Two tones rock! Havent seen the N1 Dual in a long ass time.. thought no one had it anymore lol.. its soo 1999.

[zeek]

On a side note

Hypertek : How do you like your 6800 GT? GFX Card

[axiomatik]

Yeah, I bought those crappy rims back when I didn't know anything about wheel sizing. But, it still looks better than the stock steelies, in my opinion. I would get new ones, but since I am currently unemployed, it's pretty low on the priority list.

[240silvia]

How much did the Eibach's lower it? Doesn't even look lowered really. Might want to get a taller tire too. But, with not job, understandable that you can't do anything about it now. Good luck, keep us posted on your progress.

[Edgar]

Lower it!
And guess what I am a bandwagon jumper too : /

[axiomatik]

I don't think the pro-kits lowered it at all in the front, and in the back, about 0.75-1.0 inches, though you can't really tell in those pics. It would be nice if it were lower, but I really just wanted some improvement in handling, and when I got them, coilovers weren't anywhere near my budget. When I get a job, I will probably get KTS's, but first I want to do some chassis bracing, since my car feels a little rattly now.

edit: I'm runnin 215/45/17's so my tires are already taller than stock. I'll just wait until I can afford coilovers, I'm patient.

[zeek]

to jump the bandwagon wouldnt you technically have to had been on the previous wagon to jump to the next?

[mrmephistopheles]

don't take it to heart, but generally, your pictures suck.
The engine bay shot is good, but most of the rest are crap because you can't see the subject.

[axiomatik]

yeah, i know, but most of the rest were blurry since i don't have a tripod. I have some other pics floating around elsewhere, but I'll have to look around for them.

[240silvia]

Use the same scenery, just take the pics in the day. Nice job choosing scenery, just needs to be daytime.

[aznpoopy]

instead of a tripod, brace your arms against your body when you shoot so the camera doesn't shake. and get closer to the car! can hardly see it in those pics.

car looks nice; relax & don't take anything too seriously on a internet board. guys will poke fun... it's normal.

[KoukiMonster]

were you using an SLR?

[Silverbullet]

damn.. thats one clean engine bay...

[Phlip]

Apparently, despite my explanation, you still don't realize that I was being sarcastic in my first post. I don't care when anyone got their car, and I certainly don't think I am better than anyone just because I bought my car in '95. Actually, the whole reason I was poking fun at the bandwagon issue is that I think it is absurd to ridicule someone just because they bought their 240 recently. In fact, I think that it is pretty sad that, despite owning my car for nine years, I haven't hardly done anything to it compared to half of the people here. Jesus, you'd think I had personally attacked you by name. Get over yourself.
Apparently you missed, in the fact that I went in and thought out my initial reply to actually post it and actually agreed with the individual who said nothing more than "hahahhahh forums are so much fun" in response to that as an out... I have said it before:
"Cynicism is the humor of hatred, a fact which is no more evident than in the fact that I hate you this much right now"

[WhiteNissanS13]

nice car except for the wheels and needs to be lowered. when my mom bought her car in 1989 she thought 4 cylinder just wasn't good enough, so she opted for a V8.

[axiomatik]

I did have closer shots, but like I said, they were blurry. And I tried bracing my arms against my body, but it was rather windy that night, which made it hard to stand still enough. With that low of a light level, just about any movement blurred the picture. Oh, and it was a Canon 4 megapixel Digital Elph. Maybe I'll try tomorrow if it's nice out.

[MisfitFlesh]

that engine bay's cleaner then my toothbrush

[nightwalker]

My buddy and I were putting Accord rims on his 89 coupe in 94. Bet you didn't know about THAT hotness back then did you?

[240silvia]

Make sure you post when you get new pics. I wanna see it in the daytime.

[nismo2491]

the accord rims shouldn't fit. at least from my experience. the center hole isn't big enough. it doesn't clear the hub. you'd have to redrill it or something. that may have been different on my car though because I had ABS. not sure if there were differences. also was using 96 accord wheels.
KEvin

[KoukiMonster]

oh because id just say if you had an SLR that camera shake murdered your photos and that you should get a tri- pod

[nightwalker]

the accord rims shouldn't fit. at least from my experience. the center hole isn't big enough. it doesn't clear the hub. you'd have to redrill it or something. that may have been different on my car though because I had ABS. not sure if there were differences. also was using 96 accord wheels.
KEvin

yeah, they didn't fit. Center hub bore is A LOT bigger on 240. We made them fit though. :D

[mad s13]

ur wheels are sign of "I just picked up an import tuner and had to get some rims yo!" .. anyways.. nice car. welcome to the boards. Two tones rock! Havent seen the N1 Dual in a long ass time.. thought no one had it anymore lol.. its soo 1999.

no it isn't..lol, I rock the N1 dual..and like it...since the only other choice at the time was the then discontinued greddy dd which I really wanted.

Gray

[axiomatik]

I love the N1 duals, it looks great and sounds even better. I just really like the look of the dual tips, besides, everyone and their mother has a single canister exhaust.

[axiomatik]

Well, I finally got around to taking some better pics (the weather hasn't been too cooperative). Anyway, ridicule away:

http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2001.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2002.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2003.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2004.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2005.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2006.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2007.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2008.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~brindley/240SX/240sx%2009.jpg

[old_s13]

i really dont know what to say about that car.. its kinda clean.. not bad..

but, you can tell that the person who owns it still has more to learn about 240's.. no biggie.

your car reminds me of a DA Integra. :)

your car is far from anything out of the ordinary, BUT.. atleast you are taking care of it and maintaining it, because it shows.

[MakotoS13]

everyone and their mother has a single canister exhaust.

my mom has dual exhaust with a dynomax muffler and stainless magnaflow tips on her car. OH, you meant 240's. that's cause the dual canisters look like poop.

[wootwoot]

who's two tone monster truck is that??

[Lurkable]

who's two tone monster truck is that??

Agreed, but it is two-toned which is always quite nice.

[S14DB]

Hum... When I put on my coilovers they rasied the car a little from the springs.

[axiomatik]

I am sorry that my car does not fall within everyone's narrow definition of 'cool', but, oh well, I won't lose any sleep over it. I will, however, explain some of my decisions on my car, so I don't look like a complete dumbass.

First, I bought the wheels back in 2000. Back then, I didn' even know there was a 240sx community, because it certainly seemed like I was the only person in Phoenix that even took care of their 240 (I know that's not true, but I didn't see another 240 enthusiast in Phoenix until around 2001). Therefore, I wasn't privy to all the important information about offsets. Also, JDM tyte wheels were much less common then, and I didn't know about them either. I plead ignorance on the whole wheel selection issue. However, that doesn't mean I don't plan on doing something about it. Eventually, I will replace them with some JDM wheels that I hope will meet with your collective approval. I will probably choose between either Nismo LMGT4's, Volk CE28's or Work Emotion CR's (but first I have to get a job).

Second, the suspension. I know it is too high, but I had some very good reasons for not getting coilovers. First, my old shoks were dead, and I needed to replace them. I could probably have afforded coilovers if I really stretched my budget, but I didn't think it was worth it at the time. I had neither the time nor the resources to participate in any form of motorsports, and I was a delivery driver. I really didn't think that I could stand the harshness of coilovers for ten hours straight a day, but I did want an improvement in handling, thus, the AGX/Pro-Kit combo. I don't like the height, but I also don't want to cut the springs, so it will have to stay put until I can afford coilovers. First, though, I plan on getting SPL fender braces, Nismo power brace, subframe bushings and swaybars, so it might be a little while. Anyway, that's the story of my life, I'll stop making excuses for my past decisions.

[old_s13]

I am sorry that my car does not fall within everyone's narrow definition of 'cool', but, oh well, I won't lose any sleep over it. I will, however, explain some of my decisions on my car, so I don't look like a complete dumbass.

STOP

End your thoughts here. There is absolutely NO reason for you to have to justify anything you've done or are going to do with your car. Your car should meet YOUR expectations, and thats all you should really be caring about. If you ask me, fuck everyone on Zilvia.. including myself. We should take our opinions and shove them up our asses.

HOWEVER.. and this is a big however, .. you asked for criticism, so you got it. AND, its just a matter of style.. which everyone has a different interpretation of. Hands down, its nice to see that your car is shiney and looks fairly clean. Whether or not its "perfectly cool" is another thing, because we all have our own ideals, budget, etc...

Point here is, do it for yourself. You dont need to make excuses or any of that shit. I dont have coilovers, but everyone seems to compliment me on my car. Your car isnt excessively high, but the wheels and tires I could care less for. But who cares? I've had shitty wheels/tires back when I started out, and you know what? I learned how to drive on those. And, they were within my budget back then. But, i learned that shitty tires and crappy wheels have downsides.. they dont stick, they are heavy, etc etc.. so learn your lessons and move on. But the point is still the same, do it for YOURSELF. Read through Zilvia and get ideas stirring.. thats what its about, isnt it?

good luck,
- Mike

[TokyoNights]

That coupe CAN be the shizz with a different owner haha JK! Those damn wheels though,,Id rather rock the stock se's. N1 duals are poop also. Im shure when you get a job youll make it all right :x: .

[axiomatik]

haha, don't worry, I was just joking about the whole 'approval' thing. Frankly, I don't really care what anyone else thinks of my car, I work on it purely for my own satisfaction, not to win anybody's approval. I was merely anticipating the 'monster truck' and 'wheels are neither jdm, forged, nor flush' type of criticisms. I figured I'd acknowledge them ahead of time and let you guys know that I don't care if you make fun of my wheel gap. I'm not out to impress anyone with how much money I've spent on my car, or how jdm it is, I just love driving a great-handling car that happens to look good as well, and if I can improve both, even better.

[nismo2491]

nbrindley: just like mike said, make the car to suit yourself. but you already know that.
KEvin

[TheSnail]

I think the car is okay, but you could have left the "I got mine first" thing out. I got mine as early as you and I am sure 100+ 35year old milfs got them new for their for senior graduation, though you don’t hear them bragging.

[aznpoopy]

maybe it's just the net but you come across as really really defensive and slightly confrontational... anyway the car looks nice... needs to be much lower. otherwise :

spoilerless = :)
two tone = :)
pig nose = :)

patch up that chip on the driverside front bumper. the side mounted license plate looks weird without a aftermarket bumper imo.

[91rusty240sx]

the the engine bay looks clean.

[HyperTek]

Do sleepy eyes, get a factory lip, drop car more via coilovers, paint rims gunmetal or black = Instant JDM TYTE YO!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/FOrum%20crap/modded.jpg

[Thorpedo]

hooray for someone in IOWA. i need to go back to visit. you live on campus or what? btw- like the car...screw what everyone else says...they pour their entire lives into their cars and to me, that makes it not worth it.

[axiomatik]

Do sleepy eyes, get a factory lip, drop car more via coilovers, paint rims gunmetal or black = Instant JDM TYTE YO!!


That's funny, because in the past, I have seriously considered all of the modifications you suggest. However, those are mostly cosmetic upgrades (except the coilovers), and I prefer to do performance upgrades first, otherwise I probably would have done some of those suggestions already. As for the coilovers, I definitely plan on getting some, I've always thought my car sat too high, and I plan on getting into some auto-x this next season.

Thorpedo - actually, I live on the east edge of the city, though my wife is a phd student at the university. let me know if you're ever back in town.

[sykikchimp]

overall, nice car man...

is your tint suffering the dreaded purpledyness of old age?

and TurK - do not post immature comments like that in the future. Consider this your warning.

[axiomatik]

Yeah, the tint is all ancient. The newest piece on there is the driver's window, I replaced that back in '97 or '98, and it has always been a little more purplish than the rest, which is even older, about 10-12 years old. I'm amazed it hasn't blistered yet. The worst part is that the tint in the rear window is kind of fuzzy and my rearview mirror vibrates slightly, making everything out back looks really blurry. It's always amazing when I drive other cars with clear views. Just another item on my list of things to do when I have a job.

[driftyour40]

I like it. oh dude don't lower you car that much please, suspension geomatry is so not stuided enough to go droping your car to the grond because it looks cool. I like the n1 duals i have a single can exhaust now but i want to put the duals on my s14 anyhow nice car.

[seksi240]

Yeah, the tint is all ancient. The newest piece on there is the driver's window, I replaced that back in '97 or '98, and it has always been a little more purplish than the rest, which is even older, about 10-12 years old. I'm amazed it hasn't blistered yet. The worst part is that the tint in the rear window is kind of fuzzy and my rearview mirror vibrates slightly, making everything out back looks really blurry. It's always amazing when I drive other cars with clear views. Just another item on my list of things to do when I have a job.Lol, I know all about that. Driverside, no tint. Passengerside, tint. Hatch, purpleness. :rawk: