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Danb
06-14-2017, 10:40 PM
Greetings and salutations,

My name is Dan and I'm from Florence, Alabama which is near the Huntsville, Birmingham area. I recently got back into 240's and I wanted to document the build on the car and showcase it along the way for anyone who cares to see. When I was younger, I used to read the build threads and get pumped up about doing things to my cars and what I wish I could do but I wasn't in a financial state to where I could maintain a car build so I never accomplished much but things have changed now and I've accomplished some career goals and I'm ready to build another car.

A little background within my 240 happenings, when I was 16 my 1st car was a pearl white 95 s14 and it was coolest thing since sliced bread. My mother had bought it when I was 15 to commute back and forth to work and I requested it when I got my license, I drove that car bone stock until it started giving some motor issues given it had a lot miles on it at that time. I got another vehicle which was a 2wd ford ranger and drove that for a while until a friend of mine at school put his 96 red s14 up for sale and I wanted to get back into 240's so I worked out a deal with my parents and we bought it. It had 96k miles, spec flywheel and clutch, j30 diff, megan exhaust and some lowering springs along with some cool wheels, this was back in like 2005 lol. I drove that car for a long time until I wrecked it and sold the chassis to a friend of mine, It was a sad day but at the same time I was ready to venture into the SR world so I found a 95 s14 with a redtop SR making about 300hp and I bought it however I wrecked it being dumb shortly after so I was on the hunt for a shell to swap my motor into and luckily I found another 95 s14, at a local car buy here pay here lot, that had a blown up KA, so I purchased it and did the swap and made that car last. I ended up needing a better daily for my job at the time so I did some trading and let her go, the dude blew it up a week or so later and I did some haggling and got it back with the blown motor, swapped in a KA and had some fun with that but sold it later on. I ended up finding my red 96 somewhere along the way also and bought it back and sold it to a friend, somewhere in that time era I bought 3 more and sold them down the road but anyways, fast forward going a while without one I decided i'd do a legit build and bought a 92 coupe and started working on it, I bought an complete LS1 swap out of an 02 trans am for 2500 bucks from down in Louisana, actually found it in the classifieds here on zilvia but that was before LS swaps got mainstream but I had a change of heart and traded it for an RB25 swap because that was where my heart was. I started building on that motor but some life events happened and I decided I needed to focus on other things so I sold the project. I eventually got into racing cross country on a trx450r, I got the quad already built and started enjoying that but then crossed over to dirtbikes and had a few of those while racing cross country or harescrambles as some call it. 5 years since I sold the 92 rb25 project, I'm back at it with the another 92 rb25 project.

This project is going to last a year or more and I plan to be very detailed with the progress, so far I'm in the tear down stage and once I get the chassis prepped, I will be building it back up. .

The day I brought it home, found it on facebook and purchased it for 400 bucks. It's crappy and an utter mess but perfect for what I want to do with it which is bring it back it from the grave and make it something worth having.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/car%20build/IMG_0499_zpssf5uq46e.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/car%20build/IMG_0499_zpssf5uq46e.jpg.html)

I gave it a quick wash before I put it in the shop, washing it didn't do much for this turd but atleast I tried.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/car%20build/20170416_145345_zps3yrppyor.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/car%20build/20170416_145345_zps3yrppyor.jpg.html)
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As you can see, this car really sucks but it motivates me to do something with it. I guess it was someone's "drift car" but its a pile of shit, i hope whoever modified this thing this way sees this post and finally realizes how much an idiot he/she is. Anyways, the build theme is a fairly dedicated track car, I've had wreck less driving tickets in my earlier days so I'm wanting to stay out of trouble and have fun at the same time.

So fast forward several weeks, I did what I really wanted/didn't want to do..I put my bike up for sale to fund some 240 things. I built this bike up and its been a blast to own, so much attention to detail went into this thing but now its time I lay this hobby down to rest and pick back up on what i should had been doing all along.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/car%20build/IMG_0530_zpselslwcoq.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/car%20build/IMG_0530_zpselslwcoq.jpg.html)

I had no problem selling the bike, took about a week. I sold it on a Saturday night and sunday i already had my mind up on what i was going to do. I had been following a sale post that came up on the book of face and luckily it hadn't sold yet so i made contact with the owner sunday morning and i was on the road to Titusville, FL by 9am to pick it up. However, bad luck struck around 6hrs into my trip when my water pump took a shit on me. Its a sunday evening, no repair shops are open and that's just my kind of luck but luckily i found a repair/tow truck business 10 miles away and they came and rescued me. I stayed over night and was on the road by 11:30am the next day.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/car%20build/IMG_0585_zpsmfkmlyux.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/car%20build/IMG_0585_zpsmfkmlyux.jpg.html)

I finally made it late Monday night and i crashed, woke up the next day and unloaded the goods and got it all settled in.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170604_151345_zpshqh9yk3x.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170604_151345_zpshqh9yk3x.jpg.html)

What a beauty right?? I'm stoked and more motivated than ever right now. Its a built up bottom end Rb25 with a GT3076R, 850cc injectors, nistune and other nic nacs but its gonna be just right for what I'm trying to build. I bought a turn key swap, I have everything to drop the motor in my car right now. I got compression vids and street runs to show it was healthy, it was pulled the same day i was supposed to get there to see it. All in all, it should be a solid situation. I'm not thrilled to be running the factory manifold, I'd much rather have nice quality top mount on there but it runs in current state and I'm gonna leave it alone until the chassis is done.

Danb
06-16-2017, 01:49 PM
I started pulling the motor out, it has a rod knocking and I've got a buddy whose wanting it so I'm gonna get it out of the car and get it out of my shop.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/car%20build/20170603_143021_zps0owsaasm.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/car%20build/20170603_143021_zps0owsaasm.jpg.html)

My buddy's car is hogging up all the jack stands so I had to go buy some more. This car is special to me even tho its not mine, this was my very 1st 240sx back in 2004 that I mentioned having in the intro, My buddy found it in a field earlier this year with an uncompleted SR20DE swap, he sold the swap and is preparing to buy a motorset for it.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170603_141938_zpsucwufl3q.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170603_141938_zpsucwufl3q.jpg.html)
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Someone's idea of "battery relocation"
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Got it out, went smooth other than undoing crappy work from previous owner.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/car%20build/20170603_162510_zpsgpdnpcuy.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/car%20build/20170603_162510_zpsgpdnpcuy.jpg.html)

I drained the clutch fluid and this is what I got, seems a little dark to me but that's just my opinion.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170603_231717_zps63sjescb.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170603_231717_zps63sjescb.jpg.html)

I loaded the swap up and headed over to my buddy's place to drop it off. He has some cool stuff so I snapped some pics while i was there.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170604_094014_zpsksfqoehb.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170604_094014_zpsksfqoehb.jpg.html)
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The 300zx is making around 500hp, it's a fresh build and he's working out a few kinks and then its going to Z1 Motorsports to get tuned. The cefiro he hasn't had long and its currently getting the R32 front end swapped out to the original cefiro front end, Rb25 stroker motor and his RB26 build which looks like its incomplete but i just didn't get a snap of the bottom end parts, close to 10k already invested. Overall, good dude to have around with his knowledge of RB motors and just general Nissan things.

I headed back home to clean the engine bay up before the miss gets home, she'd kill me for degreasing this thing in the driveway but i don't have another option so a man's gotta do what a mans gotta do.

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I got a lot of the dirt and grime knocked off along with the black spray paint.
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I'm getting rid of this contraption in case anyone is wondering.
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I forgot that I had picked up some parts from my buddy that got the KA, I got a nice chassis harness that he pulled from another S13. The harness on this car is pretty bad in some places so I'm gonna cut this harness down and install it. I also got a good steering column with a good ignition switch, The ignition switch on the car currently is bad and the previous owner spliced into it and put another switch in that has to be turned with a flat head driver and I'm not down with that kind of thing so I'm gonna fix it right.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170604_151329_zpszkzjicm7.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170604_151329_zpszkzjicm7.jpg.html)

I got the "race seats" out and man these things are terrible along with the rails somebody custom built for them. It's sad to see the amount of work someone went thru to make these things work in the car and the amount of safety that was sacrificed in the end just to have that " race car look". Atleast I am able to stockpile some bolts and nuts.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170612_173101_zpslsk1498d.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170612_173101_zpslsk1498d.jpg.html)
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I then went on to cleaning up all the garbage and removing the windshield, seat belts and other things I'm not gonna need. I'm gonna get the rest of the interior pieces out next time i work on it and then buy some dry ice and get the sound deadening out.
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I took some more pics of the motor swap, I realized I didn't do that before i started on the car. I'm not going to touch the motor until the chassis is done so no RB things for a while.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170616_120656_zps5jafyuxz.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170616_120656_zps5jafyuxz.jpg.html)
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I made the 1st dump run with junk from the car. I'm glad to be throwing these seats away so they don't end up in another car.

http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170612_172826_zpspqxfs93i.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170612_172826_zpspqxfs93i.jpg.html)

The company I work for is based out of Carrollton, GA and I have to go up there for the month or so and I wont have much time to work on the car until I come back home from all that.

I figured I'd change the fuel filters on my truck before I hit the road. I installed a Fass 150 external pump on it last year when the lift pump in the tank went out. It's a sweet setup, if anyones into the diesel thing. I'm not running a programmer or any black smoke mods for anyone wondering.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170616_121448_zpsrnbdz0ej.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170616_121448_zpsrnbdz0ej.jpg.html)
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I'm free'd up for the evening now so I'm going fishing. I'll bring some more updates in the near future.
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah81/danb240sx/20170615_102534_zpsagcmn9gt.jpg (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/danb240sx/media/20170615_102534_zpsagcmn9gt.jpg.html)

Standard
06-16-2017, 09:20 PM
Interested to see where this goes, truly amazing you're going to save the chassis from that idiot of a previous owner, props for that!

Working on cars and fishing is all I do lol
In for more!

slipnslide88
06-16-2017, 11:43 PM
Heyyy that's my s14! Been a while since I've been on here. I will probably make a completed build thread. Good looking thread n4updates

Malik
06-17-2017, 12:58 AM
don't give up on this. like so many other unfinished build threads.

BigKriss
06-17-2017, 02:54 AM
550 wheel Hp on std manifold bud. Gtx3076R....

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/BarryHenning/IMG_0962.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/BarryHenning/media/IMG_0962.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/BarryHenning/IMG_0960.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/BarryHenning/media/IMG_0960.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/BarryHenning/IMG_0961.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/BarryHenning/media/IMG_0961.jpg.html)

BigKriss
06-17-2017, 02:56 AM
Oh....and subscribed !! :-)

Danb
06-17-2017, 08:35 AM
Interested to see where this goes, truly amazing you're going to save the chassis from that idiot of a previous owner, props for that!

Working on cars and fishing is all I do lol
In for more!

thank you for the kind words sir and you can't go wrong with working on cars and doing a little fishing.

Heyyy that's my s14! Been a while since I've been on here. I will probably make a completed build thread. Good looking thread n4updates

Hey hey!

don't give up on this. like so many other unfinished build threads.

Certainly not the plan, it helps having a swap that's ready to go in VS having to get a motor and a car built.

Oh....and subscribed !! :-)

Very nice man! I've got a dyno sheet on this motor at 481hp/398tq and if that's true then I already plan on de-tuning it down around 400-420ish as soon as I get it in the car, I have it to get it on the dyno and retuned for my elevation anyways so ill be finding out what the real numbers but I know the factory manifold will be fine with this size turbo but as far as do I like the way it looks, NO! but I know that's silly to throw 1k at a top mount manifold only because I want it cosmetically.