Benny Obscene's S13 KA-T Drift Jawn

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Hi! I'm new to Zilvia and Nissans in general, but absolutely love build threads. With this car I'm scratching a ten year itch to learn and enjoy drifting. I'm also experimenting with video production so many of my updates will be via short youtube episodes. I'd love your feedback on those - not trying to be famous, just stretching some creative muscles. Thanks for reading and watching!

So where does that leave us?

The plan:
1. Obtain a suitable chassis that hasn't been hacked to ****, wrapped around a telephone pole, or rusted away
2. Clean EVERYTHING
3. Choose, acquire, tune, and install a drivetrain
4. Hit the track
5. Crushing realization that I'm not Keiichi Tsuchiya
6. Repeat step 4 + 5

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Before we get into the build itself, I posted a quick question last week about my Chevy truck that I'm hoping to tow the car with.

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Two pieces of good news:

1. A stock, barely molested, nissan 240sx has been acquired

2. The next video goes live tomorrow




until then here's a sneak peak of what we're working with:

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thanks!

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We have a car!

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Parts!

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After the treasure hunt we needed to make some room for all those parts!

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Observations:
1. Pretty convenient that the whole car comes apart with a 10mm
2. Pretty annoying that 50% of said 10mm fasteners snapped instantly
3. This thing is going to nickel and dime me to death


Hopefully diving into the rust repair next!

Thanks!

[tricky_ab]

Observations:
1. Pretty convenient that the whole car comes apart with a 10mm
2. Pretty annoying that 50% of said 10mm fasteners snapped instantly
3. This thing is going to nickel and dime me to death



Welcome to the S chassis lifestyle... Hopefully you'll enjoy your stay ;)

[di-devol]

Observations:
1. Pretty convenient that the whole car comes apart with a 10mm
2. Pretty annoying that 50% of said 10mm fasteners snapped instantly
3. This thing is going to nickel and dime me to death

Thanks!

Ha, it is still convenient to replace them as well.

[benjaminmoralesberriosjr]

Loved episode 3 hahahaha

[smellslikecurry]

I want to see more of that 911!

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Loved episode 3 hahahaha

thanks!

I want to see more of that 911!

didn't start out as a build thread but ended up as one:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7133240-Buh-buh-buh-Benny-and-the-jets-(911-content)

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[bataangpinoy]

movie isn't loading for me :(

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movie isn't loading for me :(

which one? I'm just using the forum code to embed them directly from youtube

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rust!

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[bataangpinoy]

which one? I'm just using the forum code to embed them directly from youtube

now all of them aren't loading! I'm gonna try on a different computer

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now all of them aren't loading! I'm gonna try on a different computer

if that doesn't work, you can view all my content here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjekFwXqHSeR-1ahFfpsrHw

[PoorMans180SX]

I don't personally enjoy the video format, but I'm old school.

What concerns me is that pile of ebay garbage you called parts. Put that all up for sale on ebay again (minus maybe the hubs and engine), and start over by buying yourself some quality coilovers, tension rods, and solid subframe bushings.

You'll thank me later.

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I don't personally enjoy the video format, but I'm old school.


Do you mean videos instead of pictures and text? Or is it the video content you're not enjoying?

With regards to the parts, I think you're 100% correct. At this stage, however, I made the decision to jump on some deals with the priority of getting up and running for minimal investment.

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we're almost caught up to present day. here's episode 6 from a recent late season snow storm we got:

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[Malik]

I love the word Jawn... PA is so funny

[d_nice]

I like it man. keep it up

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What part of PA are y'all from?

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I like it man. keep it up

thanks!

What part of PA are y'all from?

just outside of philadelphia

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short but fun detour in productivity

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Same here, maybe ill catch you guys in this thing at some events this year ! :naughtyd:

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Same here, maybe ill catch you guys in this thing at some events this year ! :naughtyd:

Nice! You going to club loose this weekend?

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And another one!

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With all of my rollover PTO pending expiration I made the difficult decision to take a staycation earlier this week. If you've been following along, that's how I've been able to crank out so many drift car vids this week. Anyway, my goal was to have the engine in the car by the end of Wednesday. [insert reality tv show drama] Things got complicated, however, when my daughter came down with a cold and double ear infections and had to stay home with me yesterday.

We finally got her to bed around 8pm last night, so already exhausted me hustled out to the garage like an idiot. Dropping a longitudinal engine by yourself fucking sucks, but around 11:30pm it was finally in and the last bolts were tightened down.

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I'm getting too old for this shit.

[Climb385]

just watched every episode, great work, as soon as i saw "jawn" i knew it had to be a pa near philly car. i lived in west chester for 3 years and i call everything a jawn now

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I can't seem to find a consistent answer on return bung placement. Higher is probably better, but considering my pan is already welded, is my location ok for return feed?

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Thanks!

[NiSilS14]

I can't seem to find a consistent answer on return bung placement. Higher is probably better, but considering my pan is already welded, is my location ok for return feed?

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Thanks!

It'll work, just isn't ideal. Optimally, you would as high and back as possible.

[franklin93zx]

the priority of getting up and running for minimal investment.

Not the best way to go about putting a car together

[snatchmarks]

Nice! You going to club loose this weekend?
Not this weekend but ill be out for the 22nd and 23rd for sure

Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

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is it in yet?

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short vid with minimal content. I went to the drift season opener in NJ and froze to death. still a good time though and definitely got me pumped to get out there

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[Mitsubayati]

I can't seem to find a consistent answer on return bung placement. Higher is probably better, but considering my pan is already welded, is my location ok for return feed?

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Thanks!

Nope. The bung is below the oil line which won't allow oil to flow freely out of the turbo. Put it up higher.

This is how I did mine: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQrWfKYFi5e/?taken-by=therealnickbayati&hl=en

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not much new here, but I did recently pull the 911 out of hibernation which I recall some of you were interested in

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apologizes for the delay in updates. we've entered the stall period of any build where the little annoying stuff destroys any will to persist. also it's been really nice out lately.

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warning: nothing actually gets accomplished in this episode

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fun video of my daughter with an old nissan in a few scenes

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Here's a quick recap for the print audience:

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I think that I've made a lot of progress over the past few weeks, however, at times it looks exactly the same as it did months ago.

We're in that frustrating nickel and dime phase of the project where the car only really needs a few more things, but those things come at $50 here and $50 there. The result is minor progress here and minor progress there; often without any "wow" moment afterwards. I think the plan now is to focus on getting the engine running. That will be a huge win and provide the energy, motivation, and youtube content to get over the hump.

Thanks!

[Climb385]

You going front mount set up or a mid mount? That turbo would love a mid mount, nice and fast spool times!

[KAT-PWR]

Nope. The bung is below the oil line which won't allow oil to flow freely out of the turbo. Put it up higher.

This is how I did mine: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQrWfKYFi5e/?taken-by=therealnickbayati&hl=en

It will be fine, the pick up pulls in oil so it will drain. Not ideal, but will work

OP be careful with that manifold or it will set your car on fire.

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You going front mount set up or a mid mount? That turbo would love a mid mount, nice and fast spool times!

probably mid mount, but haven't given much thought to it honestly

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It will be fine, the pick up pulls in oil so it will drain. Not ideal, but will work

OP be careful with that manifold or it will set your car on fire.

I didn't film it but I recently pulled the oil pan and moved the return bung to a better location.

With the manifold are you just talking about brake line clearance or are there other concerns I should be aware of?

[KAT-PWR]

Heat from the turbine will melt the plastic master cylinder reservoir

[anti tyler]

Heat from the turbine will melt the plastic master cylinder reservoir

He has a heat shield. it's in the video up there. but you're right. I purchased a shell that caught on fire from that exact ordeal.

it's funny you got that master, I have a RHD master cylinder I used on my previous KA. It's not a bad idea as long as you're careful rebending those lines.

You should ditch that manifold and pickup my manifold and down pipe.

[mewantkouki]

Oil drain bung should be above the level of the oil. I usually put them between the driver side motor mount and the back of the ac compressor in a spot that doesn't obstruct the oil pan bolt. Since this car won't be running AC, it really doesn't matter where it goes as long as it's higher up on the pan.

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some quality time with the old man

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[Climb385]

I would go with a mistu or isr ka rad, and fan shroud u!less you plan to run clutch fan, and as for your battery ground redo it to the strut tower, I did mine to the floor and it wasn't enough grounding for the car to want to turn over a sr, ka is a stronger compression motor, so I would also ground it to the strut tower, the trunk floor is very thin

[Climb385]

And just so you know you can fill the trans through the shifter hole if that plug doesn't come out

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And just so you know you can fill the trans through the shifter hole if that plug doesn't come out

true, I just thought it was a good universal tip to share

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coming down the home stretch here!

got my gauge panel wired up:
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added a sticker for a lost friend:
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and my wife directed a special father's day first start vid:
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Alright gang, I need your help again. I added an additional ground to the starter, so the engine is now turning over great.

Questions:
1. Do I need the dash connector (next to the ECU) in order to get spark? Specifically the orange Ignition Start wire? Is the tach wire connected to the coil circuit too?
2. Do I need the MAF in order to get spark?
3. Any other items in an Auto Single Cam -> Manual Dual Cam conversion that might be tripping me up? Neutral safety switch?

Thank you!!

[greenwood]

Should not need maf for spark.

Need to have distributor wired up right and ecu needs to be receiving/giving signal to give spark.

i dont think dash gauges matter.

Make sure your interlock relay is hooked up that may matter for the clutch.

Review an auto to manual how to to see where you missed something.

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Ugh still no spark. A friend and I went through nearly all the troubleshooting steps in the FSM before bailing in favor of late night Chinese food.

What I've confirmed:
- Everything is getting power that should
- Everything is grounded that should
- All sensors passed their tests

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some updates:

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here goes nothing

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So my car still doesn't run, but that doesn't stop others from shredding. Here's my vid from last weekend's Pocono Bash event:

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Thanks for watching!

[Climb385]

Any update? Get her running yet!!?

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Any update? Get her running yet!!?

I reached back out to Martin from RS Enthalpy for help a few weeks ago, and he invited me to ship him the ECU for testing. Well turns out that my ECU wasn't working properly even though it was able to power some functions of the car and display fault codes. He's going to try and repair it, so I'll either be good to go with the original or have to buy a new ECU.

Either way, I'm relieved to finally have nailed down the issue.

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IT'S ALIVE!!!!!1

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So after the initial rush of having the car start, I had time to analyze why it sounded like shit. Turns out the distributor was one tooth off. It's neat how that works.

Soon my friends!

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almost there!

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Finally!

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It's a Thanksgiving miracle! Moving the MAF fixed everything.

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good times

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more updates. the season is done, so now I have a nice long winter to get the car just right.

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slowly but surely, this hunk of junk is becoming drive-able.

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So I'm still working out a couple bugs with the car breaking up at WOT. I've closed the spark plug gap down to .025 from .035 which helped, and I've also re-set the ignition timing closer to the 20dbtc mark which also helped.

All in all the car feels significantly better throughout the rev range as long as I'm not pressing the gas pedal all the way down. I haven't had the chance yet to get it on a long enough stretch of road to test holding boost so that's my next move.

I'm also thinking it might just be time to bite the bullet and find a dyno tuner that can make real-time adjustments or at least point out what I've done wrong.

[Super_OK_S13]

i PM'd you. i think you might need a different standalone/Tune or Tuner. do you have a wideband o2 sensor to monitor AFR's? thats the most important other than oil pressure and water temp...

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thanks again for the message!

no wideband yet, but it's certainly on the shopping list.

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Almost a year ago today I spotted this piece of junk outside a local service station with chopped wires, no drivetrain, and rust for days. It's fought me every step along the way to this first fill up, but at least now I know the gas gauge works :)

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So I haven't updated in a while, but one major change has taken place recently:

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Although the KA24DET was finally running ok, I eventually lost the motivation to keep investing more and more time and money into sorting out the little things. The drivetrain is sold, and I'm taking a short break to re-evaluate power plant options.

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So I haven't updated in a while, but one major change has taken place recently:

Although the KA24DET was finally running ok...

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up next:
1. edit video
2. buy heavier duty engine stand

[PoorMans180SX]

Goes from running driving car to engine he needs to dump several thousand more dollars in just to fit in the car...

Should have just run it and got some seat time. You're going to have a ton of chassis sorting issues when you first start out driving, and now you're just delaying them so you can put a 250hp V8 in it...