What's the best motor for me

[95s142jzvvti]

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Thanks

[di-devol]

Here ...,,..,,

You forgot those.

[e30gangsta]

Jeez that was tough to read. Go k series and mount it as low and as far back as you can. /thread

[Rustys14]

You really need more info in your post. What class do you plan to run in or do you want to just do normal lap days? I'm not sure what sanctioning bodies are in Canada but class rules are going to dictate most of your choices. A 2jz or ls1 swapped 240 is going to be placed into class where it wouldn't be competitive by most sanctioning bodies unless you throw a ton of money at it (read like 100k).

I used to do lap days fairly often a few years ago at Summit and VIR for work and honestly the best advice I can give you is to ditch the 240 if you want to be competitive (although there isn't much competition going on at a lap day). For what you would spend you would be better off buying an automatic c5 or c6 vette or tipronic 996 to run around in. Both are much better platforms and can hang very well with most other cars that you will encounter out of the box. Both would also be far more reliable as well. If your strapped for cash look for an automatic e36 m3 as clean automatics can be had for around 5k.

If you decide to ignore me and are dead set on a 240 I would go the LS route for your purposes because there is more aftermarket support for the LS automatic transmission. You can build a 4l80e (even a 4l60) to be pretty much bombproof and shift very well.

Also if you've never been out on a track before don't skip over the fact that a stock 240 with minor suspension work can be a total blast.

[Maxstyle]

YOu may want to discus this with Rob Parsons (IG @chairslayer) He may be able to give you much more input since he too has hand operated controls on his S13. He will know the exact troubles you may run into with your build.

[95s142jzvvti]

You really need more info in your post. What class do you plan to run in or do you want to just do normal lap days? I'm not sure what sanctioning bodies are in Canada but class rules are going to dictate most of your choices. A 2jz or ls1 swapped 240 is going to be placed into class where it wouldn't be competitive by most sanctioning bodies unless you throw a ton of money at it (read like 100k).

I used to do lap days fairly often a few years ago at Summit and VIR for work and honestly the best advice I can give you is to ditch the 240 if you want to be competitive (although there isn't much competition going on at a lap day). For what you would spend you would be better off buying an automatic c5 or c6 vette or tipronic 996 to run around in. Both are much better platforms and can hang very well with most other cars that you will encounter out of the box. Both would also be far more reliable as well. If your strapped for cash look for an automatic e36 m3 as clean automatics can be had for around 5k.

If you decide to ignore me and are dead set on a 240 I would go the LS route for your purposes because there is more aftermarket support for the LS automatic transmission. You can build a 4l80e (even a 4l60) to be pretty much bombproof and shift very well.

Also if you've never been out on a track before don't skip over the fact that a stock 240 with minor suspension work can be a total blast.

No no ive been on track for 8 years just not after swapping my 2j I ran a fully built KA motor but grew very tired of the 210 hrp I am set on the 240 cause I've seen what it can do and with my KA I was keeping up to sti's in the corners on open lapping time I run rwd street with the motor upgrade I will be bumped up to super street if not unlimited and my buddy Vince with his s14 and his ls2 kills it he's running grid life full season this year cause he's been owning Cscs for years now and won a few gridlife events as well as an event at Watkins glen and few other serious tracks against serious cars in the states and he has a vette on his team and he is quite slower than the 240 the s14 chassis is an amazing race platform

[95s142jzvvti]

YOu may want to discus this with Rob Parsons (IG @chairslayer) He may be able to give you much more input since he too has hand operated controls on his S13. He will know the exact troubles you may run into with your build.

Ya lol you would think so being in a chair myself for 13 years now and rob been 3 years now from his dirt bike accident I've talked with him many times about his accident and then more about his car and how he built it and what notbht no he isn't willing to help at all he sounds and takes like he is with his chairslayer foundation shit and saying he built the car to help people get behind the wheel again this and that I asked him to met me at an event so we can met in person and drive each other's car all to no response lol and then when I asked him about helping me with my new build I showed pics of my burnt up car and told him how I'm doing it all over again and migggt consider going back to La but would like some info and shit on his shifting system and avian fucking nothing guy makes it seem like he's done this all on his own and its a bunch of bs I know I'm in his position and have been a lot longer there's only so much we can do when it comes to building a car until you need help not to mention the money part of it the travelling to California and back he's had sunstancial sponsor and family money to back him but says to me anyway that he worked for it all not sure what his dea is but he isn't willing to help guys like me maybe if it was televised and gave him exposure than he would but ? 😕

[brndck]

Please use punctuation.

[travon47]

I think for a track car a aluminum block ls would be your best bet, good transmission options and can tune them on hp tuners which is cheap. Not to mention its a couple hundred pounds off the front end of the car vs a 2jz swapped car. Also working on a ls engine is much easier and should take a lot of head ache out especially for someone that is disabled. Sorry to hear about your car, I could not imagine how I would feel if that happened to me. If you have any questions about the ls swap you can pm me.

[hotrodjoseph]

Here ...,,..,,

You forgot those.

I died laughing :keke::keke:

This thread... :picardfp:

[Sonic Motor]

If you want a manual trans, might be cool to look at - http://www.guidosimplexusa.com/Clutches

Didn't realize something like this existed, pretty cool.

[jared420sx]

Buy a bmw


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[alwaysnboost]

Travon47's comment is very accurate. I your case, I would strongly recommend going aluminum LS for the following reasons vs 2JZ.

Weight savings (175+)
Cost of repairs
Heat
All motor benefits vs Turbo.

[95s142jzvvti]

But the Toyota motors are bullet proof from the reading I've been doing I get the weight savings and less heat for sure reasons I'm leaning toward the jz's is the power they can put out I'm looking to run 4-450 which I can do easily with both jz's and I can sail it up or down with boost controller right then when I take it out on the street to go break some hearts I can sail it right up and have some fun then on track back down to the 400 I need for racing with an LS I'm at 350 and that's it unless I put a blower kit on it not to mention a 2j I can get for 1500$ and I know it has 50,000kms or less an ls unless I buy a crate motor I don't really know what I'm getting right ? What do you think ?

[Malik]

it hurts to read what your writing.

[95s142jzvvti]

And why is that exactly ?

[dizzariot]

And why is that exactly ?

...brother there have been multiple dudes saying it: use some fucking periods and commas lol. For fuck's sake...

[Malik]

yea the punctuation makes your text hard to read. its just a courtesy

[racepar1]

Lack of punctuation makes your posts hard to read. It turns it into one long sentence, which becomes a bit confusing...

As for your question, with your situation I would go with the LS swap hands down.

Straight 6's are a tight fit in an s-chasis engine bay, which often leads to overheating issues. Also, I wouldn't imagine there is much aftermarket support for the japanese auto trannies.

The LS fits with plenty of room in front, no cooling issues. It's 100000000% reliable. Everything you could ever want for it is easy to get and comparably cheap. The main benefit in your case would be the support for the auto trans. GM auto trannies have a ton of aftermarket support and could likely be modified to be quite a bit better than a stock one.

[95s142jzvvti]

Lack of punctuation makes your posts hard to read. It turns it into one long sentence, which becomes a bit confusing...

As for your question, with your situation I would go with the LS swap hands down.

Straight 6's are a tight fit in an s-chasis engine bay, which often leads to overheating issues. Also, I wouldn't imagine there is much aftermarket support for the japanese auto trannies.

The LS fits with plenty of room in front, no cooling issues. It's 100000000% reliable. Everything you could ever want for it is easy to get and comparably cheap. The main benefit in your case would be the support for the auto trans. GM auto trannies have a ton of aftermarket support and could likely be modified to be quite a bit better than a stock one.

Sorry didn't realize there were a bunch of English teachers on here I assumed it would be fine to read

[dizzariot]

Sorry didn't realize there were a bunch of English teachers on here I assumed it would be fine to read

With that attitude...

https://cessnachick.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/youre-going-to-have-a-bad-time.png

Good luck. Sucks that the Chairslayer guy isn't more helpful.

[lunchmeat]

Go ls, aluminum block if you're worried about weight. Even with the ls based truck motors, you can throw an intake, heads, a cam, a good tune, and you'll be in the 400 hp range easy. And you can build a 4l80 to take whatever abuse you throw at it.

[95s142jzvvti]

With that attitude...

https://cessnachick.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/youre-going-to-have-a-bad-time.png

Good luck. Sucks that the Chairslayer guy isn't more helpful.

Sorry what I shoulda said was this was my first thread I've put up so I didn't know any better fellas

[95s142jzvvti]

Go ls, aluminum block if you're worried about weight. Even with the ls based truck motors, you can throw an intake, heads, a cam, a good tune, and you'll be in the 400 hp range easy. And you can build a 4l80 to take whatever abuse you throw at it.

Do you have any race experience with either NA or turbo motors ?

[Malik]

I say an LS motor is a good bet. And you can still use the auto trans.

[95s142jzvvti]

I had the auto trans on the car that burnt hooked up as well the one that come with the aristo motor comes with an auto trans auto it'll hold 600 I had a TCM linked into the trans though to run it better

[racepar1]

Sorry didn't realize there were a bunch of English teachers on here I assumed it would be fine to read

Why would you pick out my post to get all pissy about? I'm trying to be constructive and offer a valid opinion on your question. It's not our fault you're too fucking lazy to push the damn buttons on the keyboard to punctuate your writing. You come across like a lazy fuckboi, not to mention fucking stupid. The ability to articulate your statements clearly when communicating online is paramount to getting the constructive responses you're looking for. If you're too lazy to type a fucking paragraph, why in the hell would anyone want to take their time to try and help? Lazy posts lead to flaming...

:fawkd:

[deolio]

Sorry didn't realize there were a bunch of English teachers on here I assumed it would be fine to read

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[lunchmeat]

Do you have any race experience with either NA or turbo motors ?
Nope. Never touched a turbo motor either. Used to hang with the muscle car crowd. The ls is the new Chevy 350. They're in everything for a reason. Plenty of parts, make great power with just bolt ons, and the stock gm ecus are very tuner friendly.

[95s142jzvvti]

Nope. Never touched a turbo motor either. Used to hang with the muscle car crowd. The ls is the new Chevy 350. They're in everything for a reason. Plenty of parts, make great power with just bolt ons, and the stock gm ecus are very tuner friendly.

Ya true that I like different but I don't know how much reliability I wanna lose to be different know what I mean ?

[95s142jzvvti]

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You really took the time to do that wow lmfao that's amazing !

[95s142jzvvti]

Why would you pick out my post to get all pissy about? I'm trying to be constructive and offer a valid opinion on your question. It's not our fault you're too fucking lazy to push the damn buttons on the keyboard to punctuate your writing. You come across like a lazy fuckboi, not to mention fucking stupid. The ability to articulate your statements clearly when communicating online is paramount to getting the constructive responses you're looking for. If you're too lazy to type a fucking paragraph, why in the hell would anyone want to take their time to try and help? Lazy posts lead to flaming...

:fawkd:

You know what pal go fist yourself cause other people have said the same thing but in a different way, as in not being a fucking complete fucking douche bag. If my lack of paragraphs and commas, grammar etc if it bothers you then don't look get fucked but you can't that's why you live in your moms basement still have never seen a live pussy and spend al your fucking time on forums ! How's that for punctuation fuck face as I said other said something about it but weren't idiots about it like you so 🖕Fuckboi

[Y0SH]

If it were were me, since it's a track car, I'd go with a 1.2jz. You get the higher rpm's of the 1JZ, with a better flowing 2JZ head. But I'm a JZ guy, so I'm bias.

[lunchmeat]

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And I'm dead.....

[95s142jzvvti]

What if were to tell you that my hands don't fully work and using the microphone on my iPhone to do what I can pal. Now I'm getting my wife to put this in just for you !

[95s142jzvvti]

If it were were me, since it's a track car, I'd go with a 1.2jz. You get the higher rpm's of the 1JZ, with a better flowing 2JZ head. But I'm a JZ guy, so I'm bias.

Thanks I appreciate your input and that you didn't bitch about my grammar or lack there of

[racepar1]

What if were to tell you that my hands don't fully work and using the microphone on my iPhone to do what I can pal. Now I'm getting my wife to put this in just for you !

That's a reasonable response, people would understand. You know, rather than just telling everyone to fuck off and that it doesn't matter. A little communication goes a long way...

[95s142jzvvti]

I wasn't telling everyone just you your the only one who was a total dick

[jared420sx]

S62 > ls1
Or s65 🙃

[95s142jzvvti]

With a show off post how many people are talking from actual real life track experience with either style motors

[racepar1]

I wasn't telling everyone just you your the only one who was a total dick

After you ignored a bunch of straight troll posts and singled mine out for some reason. I wasn't a dick at all, I specifically put effort into not being a dick about it, moving on, and being constructive. Then you quote my post with some smartass remark instead of being constructive and explaining your situation briefly. Ya, I was a total dick after that. Then you explain your situation, which I 90% believe but feel no reason to question, suddenly I'm no longer a dick, just a longwinded motherfucker. It's the internet, sarcasm doesn't work, we can't see you. The ONLY thing we have to judge you by is what you put in your post, which was the point of the whole punctuation flaming in the first place. That point is now resolved as we understand your particular situation, nobody is mentioning punctuation anymore...

[Standard]

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I never quote images, but Hahahaha best post I've seen, you win!!

[95s142jzvvti]

After you ignored a bunch of straight troll posts and singled mine out for some reason. I wasn't a dick at all, I specifically put effort into not being a dick about it, moving on, and being constructive. Then you quote my post with some smartass remark instead of being constructive and explaining your situation briefly. Ya, I was a total dick after that. Then you explain your situation, which I 90% believe but feel no reason to question, suddenly I'm no longer a dick, just a longwinded motherfucker. It's the internet, sarcasm doesn't work, we can't see you. The ONLY thing we have to judge you by is what you put in your post, which was the point of the whole punctuation flaming in the first place. That point is now resolved as we understand your particular situation, nobody is mentioning punctuation anymore...

It's fine No hard feelings man but really I have no reason to lie I can send you a pic of me in my wheelchair if it makes you feel better but I'm sure you can figure it out when I said I have to drive auto that's not cause I want to man
Anyway I'm going 2jz it's a matter of single turbo now or leave he stock twins do the same bpu's I had to the other one toss some usdm cans in bring me up to 360 whp with 355 torque or a small single that spoils faster like a gt35r ? Thought

[95s142jzvvti]

I managed to do one paragraph give me some credit lol