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tougefactory

02-08-2017, 01:08 PM

KA-T DRIFT BUILD PART 1

A few weeks ago we were brought a KA-T S13 with a laundry list of parts we were going to be installing, as well as plans for a bit of love and normal maintenance here and there. However, the more we dug into the car on the initial tear down, the more we found that needed to be fixed and replaced. No big deal, this was a 25 year old car that was seemingly put together on a tight budget by the previous owner. On the hand, the current owner bought it knowing what needed to be done and how he wanted the car to look and perform, so he brought it to us to fulfill his vision! The first order of business was pulling out the previously boosted KA and checking on its overall condition.

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Well hello there! We have a bent rod.

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This KA was definitely in need of a rebuild and top to bottom refresh.

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A set of fresh Manley connecting rods ready to replace the tired OEM ones.

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CP Pistons to go with the Manley rods.

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The chassis itself was a bit on the rough side as well. The frame rails were mostly smashed in…

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… or missing!

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The waste gate piping was worth mentioning. Very interesting design…

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The floorboard had patches of rust as well, this was the worst bit where you could clearly see the carpet through the “floor”.

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There was extensive rust on the original chassis so we contacted the owner and planned to re-shell, moving everything we could salvage from the old car onto a new chassis. This way the car would be safe, in better shape than when it came, and would be less prone to problems in the future.

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A few things that were salvaged off of the old shell to be installed on the new one!

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A fresh steering rack and tie rods ready for the new shell.

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Clean! No rust on the shell that everything will be swapped over to.

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Perks of being a Florida car, no salt on the roads. We did however find a massive damn spider under the car… Cons of being a Florida car. NOPE.

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Solid.

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Frame rails are in much better shape than the original car.

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Ready for its new life!

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The KA came back from the machine shop so we got right to work!

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The all new Tomei MLS head gasket was a perfect fit for the KA-T build!

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The KA24DE multi layer steel head gasket from Tomei is a super grommet type, which is dual sealing for the coolant, oil, and gases.

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The cylinder head is on, we set the Tomei Poncoms in for a quick photo before setting them in their proper position to go with TDC.

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So fresh!

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ATI Super Damper installed on the KA.

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New timing chains and tensioners from Japan!

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Camshaft retainer caps installed and torqued to spec.

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Double checking the torque specs on the rod caps…

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The donor chassis waiting to start it’s new life!

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We opted for the Mr. Gasket copper exhaust manifold gasket that features an embossed O-ring design to increase sealing pressure around the exhaust ports, creating a tight, leak-proof seal.

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TOMEI KA24DET turbo manifold is on! Just waiting for the S15 T28 to come in next week.

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The build is almost wrapped up, we’re waiting on a few more things to come in until the engine gets dropped in later this week.

Fuglychuki91

02-09-2017, 01:56 PM

So awesome. I'm not too far from you guys...well I'm in Michigan. Good stuff! I look forward to more.

dope13

02-09-2017, 07:12 PM

Awesome build [emoji122][emoji122]

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Malik

02-09-2017, 10:47 PM

should be interesting.

Alpod

02-10-2017, 11:48 AM

That rust on the old chassis looked scary :ugh:

Awesome build! Will be keeping tabs on this, looking forward to updates!

[email protected]

02-10-2017, 01:05 PM

*slow clap* simple & effective, you guys never fail to deliver.

yomisiu

02-14-2017, 04:30 PM

in for more! a few of the pictures are dead btw

DJTTon

02-14-2017, 09:22 PM

Do you guys accept random fan-based visits? I live in Chicago and got into the car scene when I went away for school but I come back for breaks

tougefactory

02-15-2017, 09:50 AM

Do you guys accept random fan-based visits? I live in Chicago and got into the car scene when I went away for school but I come back for breaks

Hey! Of course, come by anytime.

tougefactory

02-15-2017, 09:52 AM

in for more! a few of the pictures are dead btw

Thanks for the heads up! No idea why they went dead, but I am working on it.

Also, part 2 is dropping this week!

Stay tune boys and girls.

tougefactory

02-15-2017, 11:56 AM

KA-T DRIFT BUILD PART 2

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Back on track with the KA-T S13 drift build, the engine was mostly tied up and assembled in the first part of our build documentation. What was left on the engine was waiting for the turbo to arrive, tap the oil pan for the oil lines to the turbo, and modify the S13 intake manifold. Chassis wise, we’re going to be installing the hydraulic e-brake, coilovers and installing the engine!

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The S15 T28 ball bearing turbo sits nicely on the Tomei Expreme manifold!

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Cool turbo sounds, awaiting..

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We ordered a fresh oil pan from Nissan for the perfect fit, then welded this bung onto it for the oil return line for the turbo!

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Everything lined up!

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Prepping the S13 intake manifold for a bit of welding!

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If you didn’t know, the S13 KA24DE manifold has butterfly valves built in it to help with low end torque. When the S14 rolled around and replaced the S13, they opted to get rid of the butterfly valves. Instead of us getting another manifold from an S14, we decided to convert the S13 manifold and weld the holes in the runner closed.

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Fire!

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All clean!

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Battery relocation to the hatch area!

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Done!

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The back of the S15 T28 turbo.

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The whole assembly.

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Running the hydraulic e-brake cable through the driveshaft tunnel, and up to the final location!

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Fresh drilled/slotted rotors matched up with Wilwood calipers will have no problem locking up the rear for e-brake entries.

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Mounted up the axle back section of the TOMEI Extreme Titanium exhaust! The mid section of the exhaust will be installed once we fabricate a resonated test pipe.

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Our clutch choice for the KA-T power was a 6 pad ceramic Stage 4 clutch from our friends over at Competition Clutch!

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All bolted on.

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All that remains is to bolt on the transmission and then the engine will be ready to be dropped in its new home!

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We transferred over the Z32 TT calipers that were on the original shell, only to find out they were completely seized. Rough! So we used them as cores to get a set of fresh re-manufactured calipers.

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Fresh and clean!

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Project Kics R40 lug nuts use a rotating tapered edge that will not damage the wheel it is tightened upon.

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The engine is in! Along with the intake manifold, we replaced all of the vacuum lines underneath the manifold with new hoses as well as brand new NISMO 550CC injectors.

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Something about a brand new oil pan… it’s just great.

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The oil lines from the turbo to the oil pan clear the steering shaft assembly perfectly.

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Looks nice and tidy!

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Mishimoto oil sandwich plate adapter to be ran with a Koyorad oil cooler!

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Oil return line to the mint oil pan!

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You can see the coolant line to the turbo, and also the fresh vacuum lines.

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ATI Super Damper for KA24DE.

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Here’s the line splitter that is a part of the GKTech hydro e-brake line kit!

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The split runs a line to either side of the car.

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The car will be sitting on Stance XR1 suspension, with inverted monotube front dampers for extra strength for the MacPherson style suspension on the front.

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With MacPherson style suspension, the shock sees side load during use. Inverted monotube dampers are used because the shock body/casing is much stronger and can withstand the forces, while a non-inverted/ upright damper would be putting all that force on the piston shaft and seals, which can bend from excessive force from Gs or hitting chicanes/curbs/potholes etc. Also, the main body of the damper isn’t enclosed in the threaded damper casing which allows heat to dissipate more efficiently and perform more precisely than conventional upright dampers. It’s a no brainer!

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Circuit Sports 50/50 tail lights installed!

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Nameless Performance e-brake handle with a Wildwood reservoir installed in the car.

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That’s all for part 2 of the KA-T S13 build, check back next week for updates on part 3!

justchrisyo

02-16-2017, 04:43 PM

Spending all my time on the blog in your guys' website!!
This top notch work, I'm a huge fan of the stuff you guys put out.

Hotboicoupe

02-17-2017, 12:05 AM

The details and the photography is incredible. Love the shop and the thread here

mau5trap

02-17-2017, 12:28 AM

TF WORKS IS THE SHIZZ NIT!!!

P.S. TELL DAVE over at TF, the SS coils he built me are running like champs!!

rawgarage

02-17-2017, 01:11 AM

Great detail

tougefactory

02-17-2017, 10:27 AM

We appreciate the kind words. Part 3 should be dropping today or early next week!

snacks

02-20-2017, 12:47 PM

Malik

02-20-2017, 11:17 PM

most of the photos dont work for me :/

240sx_sr20det

02-21-2017, 06:18 AM

Looking good guys.

Most photos don't work for me either; tried both my phone and MacBook.

tougefactory

02-21-2017, 09:37 AM

I love this build, can't wait for part 3. Did you guys make those turbo oil and coolant lines? Would you happen to know if lines made for an sr20 t25/28 bottom mount would fit a ka-t application, also bottom mount t25/28?

Part 3 is coming very soon, still have some photo editing to do! Yes, we did make the lines. And yes, lines will work if your KA already has been properly tapped for oil feed/drain etc, for the T25/T28.

tougefactory

02-21-2017, 09:38 AM

most of the photos dont work for me :/

That's very odd, are the pictures a little to big maybe?

tougefactory

02-21-2017, 09:38 AM

Looking good guys.

Most photos don't work for me either; tried both my phone and MacBook.

I don't know whats going on. It works for everyone else. Pictures to big maybe?

snacks

02-21-2017, 11:47 AM

Part 3 is coming very soon, still have some photo editing to do! Yes, we did make the lines. And yes, lines will work if your KA already has been properly tapped for oil feed/drain etc, for the T25/T28.

Beautiful, thanks guys! :2f2f:

tougefactory

02-22-2017, 04:19 PM

So we used a different image hosting site and resized the images, they should work for you guys!
Let me know if any of them are dead and I'll take care of it.

Thanks for the input, the kind words and for following along guys!

240sx_sr20det

02-22-2017, 04:31 PM

So, I was able to resize the image a little smaller. And I used a different image hosting site.

Let me know if the pictures are still not working..

Thanks guys!

Now they're working! Well worth the wait..:eek:

Malik

02-22-2017, 10:02 PM

pics work now for me.

future

02-22-2017, 10:31 PM

All this detail but couldn't clean all that crust off where the coolant hoes meets the intake mani?

Malik

02-22-2017, 10:59 PM

whats up with this hole repair, is that putty gonna work?

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travon47

02-23-2017, 08:22 AM

whats up with this hole repair, is that putty gonna work?

It is just so the brake line cant rub on the metal and holds it in place and acts as a weather seal. It looks to be some sort of window urethane.

tougefactory

02-23-2017, 11:12 AM

All this detail but couldn't clean all that crust off where the coolant hoes meets the intake mani?

We cleaned it off, it was much worse when we first started. Someone has to find something to pick at, lol!

tougefactory

02-23-2017, 11:14 AM

whats up with this hole repair, is that putty gonna work?

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We used water proof clear silicone to seal the hole; it's what people use to seal windows and whatnot and it has worked like a charm every time!

derass

02-25-2017, 03:37 PM

DJTTon

02-25-2017, 06:53 PM

Home Depot actually carries these. I used these to plug up spoiler holes along with a rubber cork grommet

fullthrottle

02-26-2017, 06:11 PM

tougefactory

02-27-2017, 02:49 PM

A grommet would have been the right way to pass that line through the floor. But none the less, very nice work overall!

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Thanks for the input, the silicone will provide a much better seal against dirt and water over a grommet. We have been using this method for years on different cars and it has not failed us once.

DJTTon

02-27-2017, 08:09 PM

Still waiting for updates!
~:[

tougefactory

02-28-2017, 10:06 AM

Still waiting for updates!
~:[

Update is coming soon! We've been working on a lot of builds here in house, you can check those out on the TF Blog main page.

240sx_sr20det

02-28-2017, 10:52 AM

Update is coming soon! We've been working on a lot of builds here in house, you can check those out on the TF Blog main page.

So much impatience and questioning in your thread. :keke:

Great build guys; take your time!

JrDarknes

03-01-2017, 06:59 AM

Build is look really sweet.

Hey! Of course, come by anytime.

I would have to say you guys are my favorite shop for that reason. I felt welcomed there when I just wanted to visit the place during my trip to Final Bout last year. Nice show room and a cool dog. Employees were really cool to talk to in the workplace and out of it. It's a pretty relaxing and nice place you guys have.

tougefactory

03-31-2017, 12:19 PM

This post will be our last project update for this car! It has come along way in its time here at TF, from a whole chassis swap to a built KA-T set up, to a full upgrade on the suspension and chassis.If you haven't been following the build up to now, be sure to check out PART 1 and PART 2. At the end of the last update, we had just dropped the engine in and starting to hook up all of the plumbing:

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Wiring up the KA with a revamped and cleaned up OEM Nissan engine harness!

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Strut tower ground, can never have too many of these!

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The Tomei Titanium catback exhaust all installed on the car!

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Another angle.

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Tomei!

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This exhaust system uses clamps to secure each section together.

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We fabricated a resonated test pipe to ensure the perfect fit between the downpipe and the Ti exhaust system.

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Manzo downpipe.

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Power steering cooler for those drift days where the steering system is working extra hard.

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Starting the process of fabricating the hot side intercooler piping. TF coupler = more cool points.

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Mocking everything up.

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Done!

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Intake piping taking shape.

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Beads!

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Fresh Work Emotion D9r in Bronze wrapped in Zestino Gredge 07R tires.

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18x9.5J +22 all around!

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TiAL blow off valve installed on the intercooler piping.

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More beads!

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Always a classic, the Nardi 330mm Classic steering wheel. Black perforated leather with red stiching, perfection.

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Mocking up the Tanabe REVEL OLED gauges on the dash.

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Tomei Fuel Pressure Regulator.

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This radiator came with a slightly damaged top inlet, so we cut it off, ordered up a new one from Vibrant and welded it on!

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Only a few more things until the car is ready to fire up!

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Tanabe REVEL gauges are 100% installed and wired up!

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They do look pretty sweet.

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We made a quick piece for the water temp sensor bung to be attached to for the gauges.

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A look at the chosen seats for this car, Bride ZETA III Type XL.

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Super comfortable seat, we test fit the seat with some of our employees here at TF to give you guys an idea on potential fitment.

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The engine is done! Running like a champ with it's RS-Enthalpy ROM tune, the car is ready to go.

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We made a small video of the car starting, where you guys can hear the Tomei exhaust, see the Tanabe REVEL Gauges perform their startup dance, as well as see some interior details! Check that out on our TF YouTube page by clicking the link here:

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The Tomei KA-T manifold looks pretty sweet, and sounds great too!

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We made a small heatshield to protect the brake booster from the heat that the turbo set up will produce.

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Street Faction Engineering seat rails matched up with the Bride ZETA III Type XLs!

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Takata harnesses paired up with the Bride seats for maximum safety while drifting.

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Street Faction Engineering bash bars were installed on the front and the rear of the car.

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That's a wrap for the build! The car will go off to it's owner soon, and then receive a fresh paint job and will be frequenting Drift Day's at USAIR in Shawano, WI very soon! Can't wait to see the driver develop and feel out this car, it's a solid platform to learn on and will no doubt result in him learning very quickly!

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[email protected]

03-31-2017, 12:33 PM

*slow clap*

travon47

03-31-2017, 01:17 PM

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Takata harnesses paired up with the Bride seats for maximum safety while drifting.

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I wouldn't be advising bolting the harness that low in the back as being "maximum" safety. Also If you flip a car with harness' and no cage, you cant duck when the roof collapses, but to each their own for what you consider safe. Either way its a beautiful car and you guys did a great job, very detailed.

EnnEssEnnKAT

03-31-2017, 01:59 PM

tougefactory

03-31-2017, 02:45 PM

I wouldn't be advising bolting the harness that low in the back as being "maximum" safety. Also If you flip a car with harness' and no cage, you cant duck when the roof collapses, but to each their own for what you consider safe. Either way its a beautiful car and you guys did a great job, very detailed.

I was skeptical at first when I Saw the harnesses, and when I asked about it I was educated on how how Takata instructs harnesses to be be mounted that way at that angle when there is not a cage in the car. If you'd like to view those instructions, I can upload them here. The owner is planning on having us build him a cage in the next off season, so even more safety benefits will be added.

tougefactory

04-04-2017, 11:54 AM

Nice project, I enjoyed reading through the details in each step and ir was a job very well done. I didn't see any mention of a catch can setup - what are you doing for the oil recirculating?

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I must've forgotten to photograph it, you can see the lines running to the catch can towards the driver side of the radiator, we used this one here: http://www.tf-works.com/circuit-sports-480cc-oil-catch-tank-w-breather-filter/

EnnEssEnnKAT

04-04-2017, 12:25 PM

I must've forgotten to photograph it, you can see the lines running to the catch can towards the driver side of the radiator, we used this one here: http://www.tf-works.com/circuit-sports-480cc-oil-catch-tank-w-breather-filter/

Great, see it now. Thanks for the response. I have a greddy unit that looks similar, appreciate it!

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DJTTon

04-05-2017, 12:53 PM

Hey what is your heat shield made out of? I see the gold leaf wrap but what is underneath it?

FaLKoN240

04-05-2017, 04:37 PM

Hey what is your heat shield made out of? I see the gold leaf wrap but what is underneath it?

http://cdn7.frsport.com/images/detailed_images/7726_Megan%[email protected]

http://www.frsport.com/Brake-Cylinder-Heat-Shield-Nissan-240SX-S13_p_7726.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwq5LHBRCN0YLf9-GyywYSJAAhOw6m8FtyYkKKgU-urpV2Eir_FzhZCu72rcXgTsgx4tW45RoCWaLw_wcB

tougefactory

04-05-2017, 05:45 PM

Hey what is your heat shield made out of? I see the gold leaf wrap but what is underneath it?

The heat shield is made out of steel, and is the circuit sports brand wrapped in DEI gold heat tape. You can buy the heat shields here:
http://www.tf-works.com/circuit-sports-brake-master-cylinder-heat-shield-nissan-240sx-s13/

DJTTon

04-05-2017, 08:32 PM

Ah, I thought you guys used some material. Im trying to make a heat shield for an intake pod but Im not sure what material to use. Limited access to powertools too

Arteeste

04-07-2017, 06:33 PM

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The Tomei Titanium catback exhaust all installed on the car!

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Another angle.

Is this a true 3" exhaust ?

Zenki_559

04-10-2017, 07:40 AM

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TiAL blow off valve installed on the intercooler piping.

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We made a small video of the car starting, where you guys can hear the Tomei exhaust, see the Tanabe REVEL Gauges perform their startup dance, as well as see some interior details! Check that out on our TF YouTube page by clicking the link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBEN1cyvc04

Do tial BOV's always sound that "fluttery"? Seems like the spring is too hard. Amazing build and sounds great regardless!

tougefactory

04-14-2017, 02:31 PM

Is this a true 3" exhaust ?

The main piping has a diameter of 80mm, about 3.15 inches.

tougefactory

04-19-2017, 11:06 AM

BenDerDonDat

10-08-2017, 01:51 PM

How much WHP do you figure it will put out with a tune?

feito

10-08-2017, 02:59 PM

The spring is not too hard. The BOV sounds fluttery because the car was being driven under very light load, so the BOV wasn't opening all the way.
it is too stiff.

Gr1mey_Norm

10-11-2017, 02:02 PM

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I WANT I WANT:hsdance::hsdance:

tougefactory

10-24-2017, 11:49 AM

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I WANT I WANT:hsdance::hsdance:

Buy it!

I'll run you an awesome deal! (:

O$mo

10-24-2017, 01:53 PM

did you use double sided tape to mount the revel gauges on the dash?

tougefactory

10-24-2017, 04:38 PM

did you use double sided tape to mount the revel gauges on the dash?

Yes sir, the double sided tape is included with the gauge.

TheRealSy90

10-24-2017, 09:17 PM

Any audio from outside? Not many people running that titanium exhaust.

tougefactory

10-25-2017, 09:14 AM

Any audio from outside? Not many people running that titanium exhaust.

Unfortunately, we don't have any outside sound clips of the exhaust. But if your going to USAIR this weekend, he's going to be ripping it this Saturday.

It sounds really good.... like really good. lol

Only down fall on the exhaust is that it sits pretty darn low. Not low car friendly whatsoever. Great quality, and great sounding exhaust though. Perfect for the dudes that aren't trying to go super lower.

Car is actually back on schedule for a full oval pipping exhaust system next week! I'll be sure to post a clip of that. And a clip of the Tomei exhaust before it gets taken away..

TheRealSy90

10-25-2017, 07:04 PM

I'm assuming that's going to be a stainless oval system and not titanium oval lol.

tougefactory

10-26-2017, 10:24 AM

I'm assuming that's going to be a stainless oval system and not titanium oval lol.

Change of plans, no oval pipping. Just a custom 3in SS exhaust.

And yes, would be stainless. Oval titanium pipping would cost an arm and a leg and maybe a liver. Would love to see someone do that though.. lol