lots of questions but one thread

[wootwoot]

a) i have not been able to find a definite weight difference for the ka24de-sr20det. yes, i have searched on google, yes i have searched here. only results are speculation

b) iam having trouble finding a fiberglass hood oem hood. every hood is either carbon fiber or crazy ass fiberglass with 47892 vents costing way to much.

c)reading the sportcompactcar article(s) on their buildup of their silvia is rather evil and tempting. their suspension settings could be easily duplicated by myself but how do people feel about this? the spring rates seem low but my car is a daily driver, not a race car. for those who arent familiar they run JIC flt2a with 6kg/mm front and 5kg/mm rear. it just seems an easy way to cheat and avoid suspension tuning and excessive harshness

d) standalone or rom tuning/piggyback? the price of microtech would be around 1300 dollars with all of the gadjets i'd be getting along with it. cons of that are mostly just not retaining stock ecu. i dont live in an emissions state so its only the conveinence lost. with rom tuning i would be expecting to pay 500dollars plus dyno time, plus a z32 maf, plus an apexi safc so basically the same amount. just dont know what would be best = /

e) seats. iam having one hell of a time picking these things out since its hard to know how something fits without ever trying it on. seats iam interested in are the jic's and then corbeau. with the corbeau seats all seem rather nice but i dont know which would meet my physical needs. iam 5'9'', 160 lbs. i've got a bit of irish in me (3/4) so my shoulders are wider than my car. also quality is a major consideration, how cheap are the jic's? how cheap are the corbeau's?

f) gauges, what are some decently priced basic electronic gauges? everyone iam finding is some japanese company which obviously makes the prices higher simply because of name brand and import tariff's. also curious of wideband o2 in gauge form. any comments on that?

sorry for all the questions but i dont have anyone else into 240's to ask :bite:

[KiDyNomiTe]

Weight differences, don't be so anal, if you need to know for deciding on engine then you need to rethink it. Choose for engine not weight, they are not too different, and a stock 240 isn't 50/50 to start out with so get your motor in or "finished" then corner wieght it.

On the spring rates, suck it up, I run 8/7 is stiff but thats what adjustable dampening is for. I tried drifting someones car with flexes on full stiff and it feels like shocks and springs. My car feels fine on full soft for daily driving, and feels superb on stiffer settings.

Seats hmm, you'll never really find the best seat without sitting in it, especially since a lot of seats I see nowadays have larg and small sizes and bla bla bla. Go to a meet of any kind someone is bound to have some seats there, sit in it, then look up the dimensions, then go from there.

I guess you could just measure yourself but you might not like too tight of a seat. So sit in a couple and find measurements then go from there.

[wootwoot]

i allready have the sr20det installed, it has been for about 6 months now. i was just curious of how much weight it dropped off the front of my car.

[MakotoS13]

any weight you lost from ditching the 2.4 will prolly be gained back from the turbo and intercooler but i'm PRETTY sure the KA weighs only a hair more than the SR so you prolly gained weight.

put the battery in the trunk, get a CF hood and paint it, and ditch the popups in favor of a lighter/fixed alternative (if you have an S13 and if you wanna go that extreme). bear is making covers for their lights that should be out in the spring.. something i can't wait for :)

[wootwoot]

i have been eyeballing those bear lights, they look pretty. wonder if i could retrofit hid's into the places where they have the projectors. its a dream i have ;)
battery to the back idea will be done, i just need to find a battery box. i can get the battery from work for incredibly cheap so all smiles there. the reason i was looking for fiberglass not the carbon fiber is that i dont want to pay for the bling factor. strict function is what im looking for.
reguarding the weight of the ka vs. sr with all of its additons i still think it weighs a good bit less, just dont know how much less. sr swaps always look monster trucked in the front after the swap with FMIC and all of that junk so there has to be some weight loss. anyone know the weight of a motorset they were sent from shipping?

[Jeff240sx]

It's like 23 pounds or something close, motor and tranny. When you add up all the turbo parts for a KA24, the sr is lighter by 60-80 pounds, depending.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

Here's the thing though, you can mathematically guesstimate the weight ratio by moving things from front to back, or lightening things, but you don't know what % of that weight is carried by the front wheels and what % is carried by the back. Hence the guesstimation part. Or, you could buy coilovers, and cornerweight your car. They'll raise and lower each perch by tiny increments to split the weight 25/25/25/25 rather than just shitty 50/50.
People and bandwagons.. like flies on shit.
-Jeff

[wootwoot]

do you know any shops in the tampa area that do corner weighting? iam in sarasota so not far at all. i also hope the bandwagon comment was not towards me = /

[Jeff240sx]

Bandwagon comment was directed towards anyone who thinks that 50/50 weight distribution is a must. And those who claim they know how to figure it out mathematically. Like, moving 20 pounds from the front to the back of a 200 pound car does not bring a 60/40 to 50/50. Because it depends on where the weight was moved from and too. You can figure it out with a lot of physics and calculations, but why? I wish 50/50 ratio was better understood, and seen as the shitpile theory it is. I can have 50/50 f/r distribution, but that weight can be down the driver's side of the car, and the car will run worse than a l/r balanced 70/30f/r car. Get it? 2 numbers aren't important. 4 are. So while bandwagoners try to attain 50/50, I'll load down my front with 70# of turbo crap, ride 56-ish/44-ish, and wait for my coilovers to cornerweight the bitch.
Just remember.. cornerweighting will be for 1 setup of a car. Like driver after a crap with 5 gallons of gas. You eat a burrito, and have less gas, you're front-weighted, or you add more gas, and you're rear-heavy.
-Jeff

[wootwoot]

true true, thanks there sir. i was just going to move the battery behind the passenger seat, mostly to clean up the engine bay and move some weight off my nose but i understand what you are saying.

[Jeff240sx]

Behind the passenger seat is a bad call. You aren't allowed in most organized racing groups to have it in the same compartment, even with a battery box. Because batteries can physically explode.
-Jeff

[Steeles]

EMS depends on your plans for the car. Microtech is good easy setup (comes with a base map to get you rolling) and very easy to work with if you know what your doing and can read and understand. but if this setup is going to be there for awhile and your not doing anythjing too crazy ship the ECU to Enthalpy and be done. Z32 mafs and whatever injectors you wanna run. clean simple and easy. lots less headache and slightly cheaper. its really dependent on what you want to do with the car and how much you yourself want to tinker with it. I paid 160 because I tipped the guy 10 for my time learning to tune the standalone. another 20 in gas riding around with a friend driving and the laptop adjusting it myself. and couldnt be happier. so my total for my microtech setup was 1050 + 160 + 20. and my setup is flexable enough right now that no matter what I decide to do with it it'll cost me a tank of gas to have it retuned.

[wootwoot]

i would try to have scott from enthalpy tune it on the dyno for me since he is supposively a god, just to ensure it was running perfect and all that. i helped my friend tune his 2nd gex rx-7 on the highway with microtech and it was amazingly easy. i really enjoy tinkering as well.

[wootwoot]

oh come on, there has to be more oppinons than that

[SirWarrior]

F> I found some nice ISSPRO gauges. they are 270degree sweep just like the overpriced japanese ones. but they cost under 70 each at egauges.com

[wootwoot]

^^^^^thank you!

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

i was just curious but if you make your car 25/25/25/25 with coilovers, and if you put your car on lets say a platform with a pivot right in the middle, one pivot, the car will still fall foward right?

[KiDyNomiTe]

i was just curious but if you make your car 25/25/25/25 with coilovers, and if you put your car on lets say a platform with a pivot right in the middle, one pivot, the car will still fall foward right?

If anything you'd have either a) a broke drive shaft, or b) a hole in your car.