With a Budget of 20K What Daily Would You Buy?

[hanzbrady]

Awwwww, another thread about money started by a millennial, your guy's favorite!

Anyways I'd like some realistic opinions from the community that's known for being kind and informat- oh... sorry just realized this was Zilvia disregard that.

As the title states in your opinion whats the best "new to you" car to get for 20k now a days? Keep in mind where talking daily drivers, so comments of "just spend it all on a 240 will not be considered (we all know that this is a bad idea, because you end up with a sentimental money pit) We're talking more in the neighborhood of today's hot hatches and lack luster coupes with good gas mileage and reliability.

[rawgarage]

CTS-V all day....

[exitspeed]

CTS-V all day....

Or a C5 or C6 Vette.

[rawgarage]

Or a C5 or C6 Vette.

c6 z06 for a few pennies more

c5 so outdated lol

[exitspeed]

c6 z06 for a few pennies more

c5 so outdated lol

Yeah but a white one tho...lol. More $ for mods with the C5. Either way.

[do it sideways]

get a Is-f

[Yuri]

I bought a practically brand new 2015 Honda CRZ with 6k miles for $18k out the door at the beginning of this year.
It really makes a great daily, and fun canyon car.
It got 48 mpg on a trip to Las Vegas, has super low insurance because it's classified as a hybrid, comes pretty well equipped, and has very neutral handling with throttle lift oversteer.
The 2013-up also come with the S+ system which is basically KERS.
It also has a huge storage area capable of swallowing big loads.
Best of all? It can be had with a really great manual transmission.

[hanzbrady]

I bought a practically brand new 2015 Honda CRZ with 6k miles for $18k out the door at the beginning of this year.
It really makes a great daily, and fun canyon car.
It got 48 mpg on a trip to Las Vegas, has super low insurance because it's classified as a hybrid, comes pretty well equipped, and has very neutral handling with throttle lift oversteer.
The 2013-up also come with the S+ system which is basically KERS.
It also has a huge storage area capable of swallowing big loads.
Best of all? It can be had with a really great manual transmission.

Finally someone read that last sentence mentioning hot hatches and "good gas mileage and reliability" I'm also honored to have the mystical Yuri posting in my thread.

[ZenkiKid]

in 2013 i bought my mint 2011 civic Si Sedan for a little over 19k. I was looking for cars that were 4 doors (future family car capable) and still fun to drive. 4 door Sis and Legacy's were my top 2 choices. Its a fun car to drive with plenty of room in the back.

[zombiewolf513]

I bought a practically brand new 2015 Honda CRZ with 6k miles for $18k out the door at the beginning of this year.
It really makes a great daily, and fun canyon car.
It got 48 mpg on a trip to Las Vegas, has super low insurance because it's classified as a hybrid, comes pretty well equipped, and has very neutral handling with throttle lift oversteer.
The 2013-up also come with the S+ system which is basically KERS.
It also has a huge storage area capable of swallowing big loads.
Best of all? It can be had with a really great manual transmission.

Agreed. I too have a CRZ. bought an '11 with 28k miles for $14k in 2014. Probably about $10k now. Awesome that its a 6-speed manual. Not the fastest acceleration, but its fun to floor it all the time in sport mode. Very well balanced and corners like a champ. Brakes like a champ. oil life is something like 6 months/ 15000 miles. gas mileage is rediculous and insurance is cheap. Get a newer model with rear and side view cameras. The blindspots suck, but not a dealbreaker. The stock sound system in the EX model is actually fucking awesome with just a little 8" sub. Interior is roomy, but lacks a back seat even though there's space for one.
I love my CRZ. best daily I've ever had.

Also just bought the old lady a '16 civic for <$20k. Excellent value.

[Future240]

20K?


I'd buy the wife an Impala.


For myself I'd find a 08-09 G37 manual coupe with sunroof.

[d9m13n]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/684497645/overview/

2013 Audi Allroad, enough room to carry everything and 5 people comfortably, decently economical 2.0 turbo, will be able to take you everywhere on and off road, and itll be luxurious. Probably drives pretty well too

[exitspeed]

Finally someone read that last sentence mentioning hot hatches and "good gas mileage and reliability" I'm also honored to have the mystical Yuri posting in my thread.

Haha, yeah I totally skipped that part. Lol.

I'd buy a Mazda CX-3. Good MPG, looks good and practical.

Or a Vette. ;)

[STR8 H8N]

g37 or 370z

[Sonic Motor]

Along with what Yuri said, I had a 2011 Honda CR-Z, with the six speed manual transmission. Drove it to vegas for SEMA and averaged 45 miles per gallon with my sticky tires and BBS's. Would average a little more with my stock 16's. Fantastic car and I regret getting rid of it. Storage was pretty good, was able to fit an S13 bolt in cage in it to deliver to a customer.

After that I had a 2012 Civic SI sedan, very roomy, K series, great interior, navigation, whole 9 yards. Was quick (not fast), great trans, and looked good.

I did test drive a 8th gen (06-11) SI sedan before I bought that, and I wish I went that route. K20 was a lot more peppy then the K24 in the 9th. 9th had a better interior, but the 8th was the better "daily driver but still awesomely fun" car.

[TheRealSy90]

The new civic turbo looks really cool actually. And probably just over the 20k.
Man I forgot all about the CRZ. I want one now haha. Unfortunately I don't have any money to buy a new car and have to daily drive a stock automatic s13 -_-

[simmode1]

$10k on a lowered D40 4.0L 6spd Frontier crew cab.
$10k into a Z31 turbo build.

[Corbic]

My only daily?

Same one I have now, Tacoma.

Sporty, reliable and fun to drive with tons of practicality.

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[MJenkins1101]

I didn't spend much more than $20k on my Ram last year. It's a 2014 1500 Big Horn. I bought it for the wife, but have since commandeered it. I love it.

[Koukiii]

You can get a nice used g37 for 20k. 4 door plus 6spd manual plus good motor

[hobbs]

Jetta sportwagen or a GTI. I love my Golf R as a daily.

[Sonic Motor]

My only daily?

Same one I have now, Tacoma.

Sporty, reliable and fun to drive with tons of practicality.

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I didn't spend much more than $20k on my Ram last year. It's a 2014 1500 Big Horn. I bought it for the wife, but have since commandeered it. I love it.

As much as trucks are the best idea ever, he's looking for a coupe / hatch back that's smaller with good MPG. I put my truck in there to at first.

Corbic - What kit is your truck running? Looks great, I have a camburg race kit, TRD big brake kit, race hubs, and boxed spindles sitting in the garage that I'm still collecting parts to finish the front of my 08 tundra. Really liking your tacoma

[RHD*bro]

G37 6spd sedan all day

[Primo's Silvia]

I just picked up an sti hatchback it was above your 20k
But being hatch and still fun it makes a great daily
So maybe a stock Impreza?? Still awd and great on gas and a weekend warrior!

[Frank_Jaeger]

buy a 240sx and stuff it with mods

[STR8 H8N]

g37 or 370z

G37 6spd sedan all day

:kiss::kiss::kiss:

[TheRealSy90]

So. I've never bought a "new" car before. And by new I mean making a payment on a car. I've always payed cash but the most expensive one I ever bought was 6,500 for a 97 Prelude in 2007 that I blew up shortly after being a boy racer...


I'm honestly wary of having a car payment, and it's probably unwarranted. But I've been considering it as of late. I've got my "track/project" 240. When I retired it from daily duties in 2014 I built a 91 EF Civic for a fun daily. Got bored with that as I basically did a full build over a year since it was cheap as hell to upgrade, and sold it to buy my current daily, a 92 240sx LE Coupe virgin automatic... Woo. I'm mechanically inclined enough to handle daily driving an older car that needs maintenance more frequently. But now that I've matured a bit and make a bit more money, I feel like I deserve something nicer maybe?


Now I'm bored with the daily 240 and keep having this thought in the back of my head that I should just get a "new" car on a payment plan.
Talk me into or out of it :)

[hanzbrady]

So. I've never bought a "new" car before. And by new I mean making a payment on a car. I've always payed cash but the most expensive one I ever bought was 6,500 for a 97 Prelude in 2007 that I blew up shortly after being a boy racer...


I'm honestly wary of having a car payment, and it's probably unwarranted. But I've been considering it as of late. I've got my "track/project" 240. When I retired it from daily duties in 2014 I built a 91 EF Civic for a fun daily. Got bored with that as I basically did a full build over a year since it was cheap as hell to upgrade, and sold it to buy my current daily, a 92 240sx LE Coupe virgin automatic... Woo. I'm mechanically inclined enough to handle daily driving an older car that needs maintenance more frequently. But now that I've matured a bit and make a bit more money, I feel like I deserve something nicer maybe?


Now I'm bored with the daily 240 and keep having this thought in the back of my head that I should just get a "new" car on a payment plan.
Talk me into or out of it :)

This is my position, I just work and drive to much to daily a project. Warranties and maintenance plans appeal to me in my quarter-life crisis.

[Tucker240]

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[zombiewolf513]

car payments are for suckers. If I can pay in full, I do.

[DenkiMan!]

Personally I'd go with a Subaru Forester 2.5 XT Sports Turbo and lower it (wish we got the STi version). LOVE how that thing looks

You can also probably get a '13-'14 Fiesta ST for around 20k. i work with someone who has a '14 and it's a peppy hot hatch with great gas mileage. yes Ford, but it's a well done car. same with the newer Focus ST's.

Or wait till the prices on the new 1.5T Civics come down and get yourself manual (the CVT auto sucks ass). the aftermarket support for those cars will get intense in the coming months. (plus, fun fact; Seibon featured a full prototype kit for the sedan at SEMA that was absolutely bonkers)

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[Highway Riding]

335XI Sedan.. That's my daily and got it used for well under 18K with under 62,000 miles a few years back. Granted i needed a new radiator and turbo gaskets but that has been it during 3 years of ownership!

[TheRealSy90]

Would be nice I'm sure. My uncle payed in full when he bought his 2014 Silverado brand new from the dealership for over 40k... It took him since his early 20's to save up that money since he swore he'd own a new truck some day and would pay cash...
I'm not trying to save up for that long haha.


I saw a Fiesta ST in front of me yesterday and got to hear it leave a stop light, little car sounded pretty awesome.


1.5T civic is really peaking my interest as well. 6mt of course.

[[240sx]]

This is my position, I just work and drive to much to daily a project. Warranties and maintenance plans appeal to me in my quarter-life crisis.

Now I'm bored with the daily 240 and keep having this thought in the back of my head that I should just get a "new" car on a payment plan.

X3
My daily commute is just too much to justify some of the cars I'd like to replace the 240 with. Besides the fact that car notes SUCK, nothing new currently appeals to me. Hell if my commuting miles were in the single digits, I'd be daily driving somthing from the late 60s/early 70s! '66 Chevelle with an LS swap for now, and another one with a big block once the wife graduates.lol

But on topic, WRX 'blobeyes' are cool.

Sent from my SM-G930P

[VROOOM]

I just bought a new Fiesta ST for a little over 20k. you can get a used one with the Recaro package for under 20k easy. they are quick enough for around town fun and handle amazingly well. go test drive one.

[STEEZxIT]

if your commute is relatively short, an xj cherokee is perfect.

that engine will see beyond 300k miles if properly maintained. cheap parts, easy to work on. plus you can tow the racecar with it, all for under $5k.

[exitspeed]

Yeah I just saw a red CX3. I'm going to reiterate my nomination.

[Tempast]

My next car is planned to be either an imported Legacy B4 wagon, or a '98-'02 Stagea 250 RS Four-S (280 horse, AWD, manual trans and an RB25DET.
I want a wagon because I like to be able to haul crap in the back (you wont believe how much crap I've fit in my Z before) and I want AWD for the bit of snow we get on the west coast of Canada. 280 horse is nice too. Half the drift kids have RB's and parts for RB's so the RB25 is relatively easy to work on for me.
Also both are priced easily under 10 for a minty one with 40-60k miles. (60-100k kilometers)

[Corbic]

As much as trucks are the best idea ever, he's looking for a coupe / hatch back that's smaller with good MPG. I put my truck in there to at first.

Corbic - What kit is your truck running? Looks great, I have a camburg race kit, TRD big brake kit, race hubs, and boxed spindles sitting in the garage that I'm still collecting parts to finish the front of my 08 tundra. Really liking your tacoma

Not mine. I'm stock TRD Off Road with 32" Goodyear Wranglers. I'll get a pic tomorrow.

I'd go long travel if I went south, LT and salty roads don't go well.

That truck is Total Chaos I believe.


This one of my favorite builds -

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6706595903_27217aebce_b.jpg

https://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss212/blackhawke88/photo1-28.png

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/blackhawke88s-build-photo-thread.25735/

[Corbic]

car payments are for suckers. If I can pay in full, I do.

Considering how low interest rates are, dropping $20k cash on a car is iditoic when that can be invested or used to pay off higher interest debts like student loans, credit cards and medical bills. That type of cash can also be used for a down payment on a home because "renting is for suckers".

[CrimsonRockett]

My only daily?

Same one I have now, Tacoma.

Sporty, reliable and fun to drive with tons of practicality.


Considering how low interest rates are, dropping $20k cash on a car is iditoic when that can be invested or used to pay off higher interest debts like student loans, credit cards and medical bills. That type of cash can also be used for a down payment on a home because "renting is for suckers".

See this at work all the time. Plenty of clients paying $40-50k cash. I get the whole not wanting to owe thing, but when you can be making more money investing that type of cash, it's kind of stupid to not take advantage of subvented rates and putting that money to work.

Currently DD'ing a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport. $40k MSRP with all the added factory options. I've had it for a little over a year now and probably going to switch out of it in the next few months for a 4runner TRD Pro or something of that sort.

Sticking with a practical daily in the $20k range, Infiniti G37 4-door in the somewhat "luxury" line. For fuel economy, Lexus CT or a Prius (if you could bring yourself to doing that).

I personally stick with leasing. I have multiple cars to switch around in which helps keep the miles down, it's pretty convenient in terms of maintenance (just about everything covered for the duration of my lease), and being in the car business helps in finding the best deals.

Having crunched the numbers quite a few times, it doesn't cost me a ton more to continue leasing cars. Definitely nice to drive something new every year or two.

[ZenkiKid]

Crimson has a point with the CT. That would be a good choice.

[Future240]

Considering how low interest rates are, dropping $20k cash on a car is iditoic when that can be invested or used to pay off higher interest debts like student loans, credit cards and medical bills. That type of cash can also be used for a down payment on a home because "renting is for suckers".

Not to mention you can drop 20K on a car then minutes later somebody could run a light and wreck it. You are basically assed out as insurance still paying value of vehicle.


In the real world if I had 20K, no way in hell I'd blow it on a car. I'd pay off all debt minus student loans and take the other 14K, get a loan from a bank for around 9K, ad 4K to it from the 14K. Take the other 10K and let it sit in a bank somewhere.

[Corbic]

Currently DD'ing a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport. $40k MSRP with all the added factory options. I've had it for a little over a year now and probably going to switch out of it in the next few months for a 4runner TRD Pro or something of that sort.






I love the 4Runners. I had a 3rd Gen. sadly I'm addicted to having a truck bed now. Maybe if I gave up race cars and got into having babies.


As promised.

11 years old, 187k miles, 100% paid off and mine.

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[Corbic]

Not to mention you can drop 20K on a car then minutes later somebody could run a light and wreck it. You are basically assed out as insurance still paying value of vehicle.


A good insurance company pays out what it's worth. If you paid $20k and 5 minutes latter get hit, you should get $20k.

Never put money down on a lease however. You won't get that money back since you don't own the vehicle.

[Future240]

A good insurance company pays out what it's worth. If you paid $20k and 5 minutes latter get hit, you should get $20k.

Never put money down on a lease however. You won't get that money back since you don't own the vehicle.



Key words there. Plus I mean more of lets say a year later or sometimes even 6 months later. Plus insurance pays on value based on general price not one's personal sales price. If you put 20K down on a 50K car worth 30K (extreme example I know). Your insurance will pay 30K and you will be assed out.


I had a lady put 27K down on a car she bought for like 44K. When we value it at like 31K she was pissed. Until I showed her another dealership like 20 miles from where she bought hers, that had a car 2 years newer, with less miles and the exact same options as hers for $35K.


She had an interest that was in excess of 6% on a 72 month loan for a car older than 2009.


Agreed on the lease thing. At work all the time i have to explain to people how their total loss on the lease they don't get shit because they are not the owner of the vehicle.


I am not the lease type. I get it for some, like Johnny's example but me, no thanks. I'd rather drive something for 15+ years. Hell I would STILL be dailying the S14 if the KA had not crapped out on me.

[zombiewolf513]

Considering how low interest rates are, dropping $20k cash on a car is iditoic when that can be invested or used to pay off higher interest debts like student loans, credit cards and medical bills. That type of cash can also be used for a down payment on a home because "renting is for suckers".

See this at work all the time. Plenty of clients paying $40-50k cash. I get the whole not wanting to owe thing, but when you can be making more money investing that type of cash, it's kind of stupid to not take advantage of subvented rates and putting that money to work.

In the real world if I had 20K, no way in hell I'd blow it on a car. I'd pay off all debt minus student loans and take the other 14K, get a loan from a bank for around 9K, ad 4K to it from the 14K. Take the other 10K and let it sit in a bank somewhere.

All valid and by all means the more practical option for many people.

[future]

Why spend so much?

Buy a previous gen Honda Fit in stick

[SlideWell]

JZX100 and call it a day.

[hanzbrady]

To address the price posts, the reasoning to spending so much is simply that as I stated I'm a millennial, meaning that unless I've been banging out penny stocks I don't have 20k cash to spend, but I do have good credit and 20k is the price point for many used cars less than 5 years old that you can still get a reasonable loan for.

[Corbic]

To address the price posts, the reasoning to spending so much is simply that as I stated I'm a millennial, meaning that unless I've been banging out penny stocks I don't have 20k cash to spend, but I do have good credit and 20k is the price point for many used cars less than 5 years old that you can still get a reasonable loan for.



Go to a credit union. 2-4% interest and you can finance anything up to 110% of its book value.

Terms are normally under $10k is less then 48 months. Over $15k 60-72 months.

[Future240]

Go to a credit union. 2-4% interest and you can finance anything up to 110% of its book value.

Terms are normally under $10k is less then 48 months. Over $15k 60-72 months.

To add to this some credit unions will change rates depending on year of vehicle going so far as to refused to finance past some years (one of mine won't do past 7 of the current year)

[Corbic]

To add to this some credit unions will change rates depending on year of vehicle going so far as to refused to finance past some years (one of mine won't do past 7 of the current year)



My experience has been the big federal ones are the unions to use.

NASA Federal Credit Union
Navy Federal Credit Union
USAA


Locals/Regional can be hit or miss.

But they'll always be better then comparable banks.

5/3 Bank valued a Evo 9 at like $8k when my buddy talked to them. It's like, okay I'll buy 6 at that price please.

KBB lists a Evo 9 at $22-28k.

Last of the 4Gs.

[Future240]

My experience has been the big federal ones are the unions to use.

NASA Federal Credit Union
Navy Federal Credit Union
USAA


Locals/Regional can be hit or miss.

But they'll always be better then comparable banks.

5/3 Bank valued a Evo 9 at like $8k when my buddy talked to them. It's like, okay I'll buy 6 at that price please.

KBB lists a Evo 9 at $22-28k.

Last of the 4Gs.

Mine was a federal one then later became "financial".


I don't know why people bother with 5/3, wells fargo, bank of America, etc. Credit unions just make so much more sense.




Checked rates for gits n shiggles

12 Months 1.24%** 12 Months/ $83.91 per $1,000
24 Months 1.49%** 24 Months/ $42.32 per $1,000
36 Months 1.69%** 36 Months/ $28.51 per $1,000
48 Months 1.69%** 48 Months/ $21.56 per $1,000
60 Months 1.69%** 60 Months/ $17.39 per $1,000
72 Months 1.99%** 72 Months/ $14.75 per $1,000
84 Months 1.99%** 84 Months/ $12.77 per $1,000

[future]

I feel paying full is a pride thing.


If I can buy anything and pay less then 5% interest over years and years with nothing but build credit why the fuck not. Paying in full does 0 but empty it put bank account

[zombiewolf513]

I feel paying full is a pride thing.


If I can buy anything and pay less then 5% interest over years and years with nothing but build credit why the fuck not. Paying in full does 0 but empty it put bank account

Some people absolutely do not like having money held over their head and they're financial/credit situation might allow it.

I'm not saying I'm a lending expert, but those reasons make sense to me.

[future]

I have no point to argue with you. Just food for thought

[RB IMPORTS]

Get a Nissan Skyline :)

[driftsucky]

Credit Unions? PSCHHHTTTT!!! You guys are a bunch of saps. Spending a large wad of cash on a depreciating item is for suckers!!!!

Alright. got out all my economics 101 banter.

For a usable, reliable coupe that is good/decent on gas, I'd go G37. I'm 6'3" and over 300lbs and it(G35) had enough room for me and my stuff (not including family). I imagine you're single and significantly smaller so you should be good. Plus, it's a Nissan in uppity clothing, so you're good there.

For a fun hatch, Focus ST>Fiesta ST for spacing and utility. Fiesta ST>fOCUS ST for fun factor.
Honda CRZ is good for...whatever Hondas do. So, there's that.

[Corbic]

says spending money on depreciating asset is stupid, recommends Japanese luxury car.


Uh, okay, that made sense.

[driftsucky]

Uh, okay, that made sense.

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and just in case I wasn't being sarcastic (i was, but just in case I wasn't)

Does a Japanese luxury car depreciate more than something else? Did I miss something?

[Corbic]

Does a Japanese luxury car depreciate more than something else? Did I miss something?



Why yes, yes they do!

They depreciate faster then their economy cousins. Luxury cars in general depreciate damn fast. G35's are like $3,500 cars these days.

Buying new, you can't go wrong with a Wrangler, Tacoma or 4Runner.

[driftsucky]

Why yes, yes they do!

They depreciate faster then their economy cousins. Luxury cars in general depreciate damn fast. G35's are like $3,500 cars these days.

Buying new, you can't go wrong with a Wrangler, Tacoma or 4Runner.

So, what you're saying is that he should get a 370Z instead of the G37 because it won't depreciate as fast? I ask, because the OP asked about a coupe or hatch..which is why I recommended a coupe...and hatches....and not things that weren't coupe or hatches. And G35's that are like 3500 are private party with well over 100k clicks on the odo. Not that the G35 is really relevant to what i was saying as I only referenced in for sizing purposes. But, just so we're all on the same page.

[Future240]

Why yes, yes they do!

They depreciate faster then their economy cousins. Luxury cars in general depreciate damn fast. G35's are like $3,500 cars these days.

Buying new, you can't go wrong with a Wrangler, Tacoma or 4Runner.



Can confirm. Insurance adjuster, luxury cars depreciate really fast. Had a 2013 7 Series Bmw total in 2014 for 99K. Had a 2013 7 series BmW total in late 2015 for like 42K.


3's series can be had for 11-14k off msrp in only a few years.


My pops in law offer perspective on this. He said most people who want and can afford luxury cars don't want them used, so when they become used they basically get sold to people who could not afford them new, greatly reducing the sales price.


For instant in GA it black people (shut people I'm black too) love to snap up 5-7 Series BMW's once they get 2-4 years off the current year.




Case in point
2013
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-BMW-7-Series-d1517#listing=131381373


2015
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-2016-BMW-7-Series-c25126#listing=151194586_isFeatured
2016
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourc eContext=&formSourceTag=112&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c25845&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=30030&distance=50&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=159193407


While of course option wise the cars may not be exact, still you can see the massive differences in price based on year.

[driftsucky]

Can confirm. Insurance adjuster, luxury cars depreciate really fast. Had a 2013 7 Series Bmw total in 2014 for 99K. Had a 2013 7 series BmW total in late 2015 for like 42K.


3's series can be had for 11-14k off msrp in only a few years.


My pops in law offer perspective on this. He said most people who want and can afford luxury cars don't want them used, so when they become used they basically get sold to people who could not afford them new, greatly reducing the sales price.


For instant in GA it black people (shut people I'm black too) love to snap up 5-7 Series BMW's once they get 2-4 years off the current year.



You're saying things that EVERYONE DOES!!! It's not just GA and it's not just black people. Italians do that too lol. Italians in NY.

And "can't afford" isn't the same as don't want to pay for. My ex's Dad bought his ex-wife a used SL55 AMG because he didn't want to spend the money on a new one. But, he could 100% afford one though.

edit he's black so I guess that didn't bode well for my point. But..wel...nurrrmine

[Frank_Jaeger]

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[simmode1]

Why yes, yes they do!

They depreciate faster then their economy cousins. Luxury cars in general depreciate damn fast. G35's are like $3,500 cars these days.

Buying new, you can't go wrong with a Wrangler, Tacoma or 4Runner.
Corbic, just curious - Is there a reason why when you mention newer daily drivers/trucks, you always talk about the Tacoma but never mention the Frontier... Why is that?

[spooled240]

Just get a 1st gen IS300. They're cheap, bulletproof and comfortable.

live cheap and save money for multi-family income properties. Don't be the 99% that buy expensive, depreciating cars to satisfy a false perception that it's going to make your life better. Car payments suck. Plus, when your dog or friend pukes, shits or performs some other disgusting act in your car you won't be as mad because it's a cheap daily beater.

[Corbic]

Corbic, just curious - Is there a reason why when you mention newer daily drivers/trucks, you always talk about the Tacoma but never mention the Frontier... Why is that?



Frontier is a colossal piece of shit?

I just don't like them. Cheaper metal, cheaper interior, smaller aftermarket and ugly as shit.

Resale is also horrible.

I don't know about their rust or frame issues. I like the SMC bed on the Tacoma.

[simmode1]

Hmm. Good things to look into. I just hate the Tacoma's wheel wells... lol

[drift freaq]

Just get a 1st gen IS300. They're cheap, bulletproof and comfortable.

live cheap and save money for multi-family income properties. Don't be the 99% that buy expensive, depreciating cars to satisfy a false perception that it's going to make your life better. Car payments suck. Plus, when your dog or friend pukes, shits or performs some other disgusting act in your car you won't be as mad because it's a cheap daily beater.

They are nice and fun to drive but they drink gas like an alcoholic.

[CrimsonRockett]

Corbic, just curious - Is there a reason why when you mention newer daily drivers/trucks, you always talk about the Tacoma but never mention the Frontier... Why is that?

I had a Frontier once. Worst truck I've ever had.

Aside from the mountain of drivetrain issues it had, the interior and design is so outdated.

Bought the truck with a new OEM replacement motor done at a Nissan store. Only lasted about a year and a half of regular use before the motor developed issues...again.

Tacoma's have their problems, too (like any other car), but resale value is insane.

Made $3k back in equity when I traded out of my previous Tacoma and into my current one. Already in a position of equity in my current truck as well.

[lunchmeat]

My dad and brother have frontiers. Both have had issues that required dealer fixes. Both ride like crap. And both get worse gas mileage than my Silverado. And it has the 4.8(no cylinder deactivation), a 4 spd auto(not the 6), and a shorter rear gear(3.27 vs 3.08). Avg 16 mpg. 20 hwy if I leave the ac off. Not bad for something as aerodynamic as a cinder block.

[Nissan2nr22]

JZX100 chaser daily, all day, nothing beats jz and toyota reliability been dailying it for a while and i love it, only reason im selling it is because its interfering with my work

[itsjustdaphne]

370z hands down. I have had three 240's, a miata, a g35, and I have never been happier with how a car handles and performs, looks and feels, for the price.

[simmode1]

I had a Frontier once. Worst truck I've ever had.

Aside from the mountain of drivetrain issues it had, the interior and design is so outdated.

Bought the truck with a new OEM replacement motor done at a Nissan store. Only lasted about a year and a half of regular use before the motor developed issues...again.

Tacoma's have their problems, too (like any other car), but resale value is insane.

Made $3k back in equity when I traded out of my previous Tacoma and into my current one. Already in a position of equity in my current truck as well.

My dad and brother have frontiers. Both have had issues that required dealer fixes. Both ride like crap. And both get worse gas mileage than my Silverado. And it has the 4.8(no cylinder deactivation), a 4 spd auto(not the 6), and a shorter rear gear(3.27 vs 3.08). Avg 16 mpg. 20 hwy if I leave the ac off. Not bad for something as aerodynamic as a cinder block.
Holy crap, I had no idea it was that bad. And are you guys talking about the D40 Frontier with the VQ40 engine? Geez.

If so, I guess I'll just get an F150 or some chevy truck.

[supersayianjim]

r32 gtr!!!!!!!

[supersayianjim]

You're saying things that EVERYONE DOES!!! It's not just GA and it's not just black people. Italians do that too lol. Italians in NY.

And "can't afford" isn't the same as don't want to pay for. My ex's Dad bought his ex-wife a used SL55 AMG because he didn't want to spend the money on a new one. But, he could 100% afford one though.

edit he's black so I guess that didn't bode well for my point. But..wel...nurrrmine



truth hurts....

[lunchmeat]

Holy crap, I had no idea it was that bad. And are you guys talking about the D40 Frontier with the VQ40 engine? Geez.

If so, I guess I'll just get an F150 or some chevy truck.
My brother's was a d22, and my dad's is a d40. Both v6, no clue on engine code.

[simmode1]

My brother's was a d22, and my dad's is a d40. Both v6, no clue on engine code.
The VQ40DE, basically the vq35de with .5 more displacement. I knew the vq line was pretty flawed but i didn't know the frontier caught the big that damn bad.

[KiLLeR2001]

Love my D21 Hardbody with KA24E, that thing just keeps on running.