got a FREE apex N1

[nlzmo400r]

ok, heres the deal: a friend of mines mom has a paypal account that i always use to pay for my online orders. I ordered an apex N1 exhaust from an online company, however after about a month of waiting, i was told it was on backorder. So i canceled the order and got a refund via paypal to her account. About a week ago i received the exhaust anyway. My friends mom says i should 'do the right thing' and give them the money'. I say its a free exhaust, and if htey ask for hte money, give it to em. But she wants me to contact hte company and get it straightened out. I just wanted to know if this had happened to anyone else before and what they did about it. What are my options? Thanks in advance- Rob

[lean]

I'd come forward without them asking and give em the money. Don't be a dick and do the right thing. You wouldn't want to be on their end and have to eat that much money. If you don't want to pay for the exhaust, at least let them pay for you to ship it back to em.

Being honest is the way to go. If you aren't, it WILL come back on you down the line. Also, it may come back on your friends mom, could get ugly in the courts and just be a plain mess if things aren't cleared up right away.

[luisgonz]

Keep that shit....fuck them because they should have the item when you ordered it because you had to wait ,just for waiting time its free..and guess what if shit happens to you its not carma its stupidity deal with it dont blame it on on some fake shit.

[zanos]

yeah,lean is right.Just do the right thing,pay for the thing.I know it looks nice-"free exhsaust".......but in the long run its not worth it.

[zanos]

Keep that shit....fuck them because they should have the item when you ordered it because you had to wait ,just for waiting time its free..and guess what if shit happens to you its not carma its stupidity deal with it dont blame it on on some fake shit.

and dont listen to the idiots like this

[luisgonz]

dude fuck you and everyone thats says iam a idiot you bitch ass fag :rant:
i have gone through ruff seas with life and shit just happens if you think life is really what you make it and plan it out it has its own mind so fuck off.And this was a idea. :fawk2:

[TurK]

somethin like this happnd to a buddy of mine...he orderd 1 c/f hood...and they sent him 2.....the company found out and wanted it back.....so i think they will evantually find out...is up to you to make the choice

[TK]

Keep that shit....fuck them because they should have the item when you ordered it because you had to wait ,just for waiting time its free..and guess what if shit happens to you its not carma its stupidity deal with it dont blame it on on some fake shit.

you sir are a moron and deserve to die.... after seeing your response, i can only imagine your business ethics... i was thinking about buying wheels from you, but after seeing the type of person you are i tihnk i'll go elsewhere.

mistakes can happen, just do the right thing and at least give them a call and let them know what happened.

[citizen]

they wiill notice eventually, so pay now or keep your mouth shut and have the possibility of debt looming over you.

[bing]

thats an interesting scenario.

i am an honest guy, but i can say that i would be tempted to keep it. that's alot of $$$.

up to you though.

if it were from a place like PDM or enjuku, a place i have bought from many times and will again, then i would pay them immediately for sure.

if it were one of those places that screwed me with $hit merchandise and poor post-product support... then they can DIAF

[Kid Zelda]

K A R M A ...

[coldfire07]

Give em a call and explain what happened. There's a chance they'll say "Ah, we fucked up. Thanks for letting us know. Go ahead and keep the exhaust since you waited so long, just remember us the next time you're buying something." I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this happened.

[Drifter SSX 13]

I think you should be honest about it and give them the money for the exhaust... I know what its like to be screwed over for that amount of money (I'm not a company, but still)... and I think its morally wrong. If I had the opportunity to screw the guy over like he did to me... I still wouldnt do it cuz of the morality of it all... I'm pretty sure that right now he might think he got away w/ it, but he will have to pay the consequencesindirectly in the future, as would you if you kept the exhaust w/o paying...
I guess what I'm tryin to say is do the right thing, cuz even if you think you got away w/ it, you will have to pay in the long run.

[bing]

^^^

that might happen for a $10 emblem, or a 240sx keychain,

but not for a $550 exhaust that cost $120 to ship.

he would have to spend $2500 on high margin products VERY SOON in order for the company to recoupe their loss.

but on the other hand, what can they really do if you refuse?

but seriously, if they are a reputable shop that hooks up these boards or any others for that matter, then there is no doubt that you return that thing or pay up.

[nlzmo400r]

thanks guys, i really appreciate it. I figure worst case senario is i have to pay for the exhaust, which i originally planned to do. ill give em a call tomorow and see whats up, i appreciate the responses, sometimes greed gets the best of me, and when you're used to getting fucked, and then a strike of good luck hits you, u dont wanna give it up ya know?

[nlzmo400r]

^^^

that might happen for a $10 emblem, or a 240sx keychain,

but not for a $550 exhaust that cost $120 to ship.

he would have to spend $2500 on high margin products VERY SOON in order for the company to recoupe their loss.

but on the other hand, what can they really do if you refuse?

but seriously, if they are a reputable shop that hooks up these boards or any others for that matter, then there is no doubt that you return that thing or pay up.
actually, no its not a reputable shop, and they have PATHETIC customer support and after i orignally paid the 48o somethin dollars they wanted originally, they wanted me to pay another 45 because apex now sells them as 'aluminized' instead of stainless steel, so i sent them a total of like 52o bucks, but of course it all got refunded. I think thats false advertisement, but it seems to me they did it to make up for shipping costs

[WilloW]

Let them know and maybe they will cut you a good deal for being honest. Like Kid Zelda said, karma is a bitch.

[jjwilks240]

wait, so they made you pay more for aluminized than stainless?

sounds like they were trying to screw you..

i say let them come to you, act stupid when they do come to you.
then take your sweet ass time with the payment like they took their sweet ass time with the exhaust

[luisgonz]

fuck all that thougt me wrong they are ass hole's
"FUCK ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY"

[Kid Zelda]

fuck all that thougt me wrong they are ass hole's
"FUCK ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY"

Ohh, c'mon sweetheart ... dont get all mad, its only the internet ...

Save the brave words for when the aliens from planet rock-a-hop-punk-hip-jazz-jungle-rasta come and invade me womens ...

:hahano:
Newcastle, its whats for breakfast, brunch, lunch, snack, dinner

[psychedelicbeats]

you're gonna look bad and be looked down upon to the 240 community just to fair warn you if u were to take it. you wont be able to deal business with them anymore if they are a good source

[FRpilot]

dude fuck you and everyone thats says iam a idiot you bitch ass fag :rant:
i have gone through ruff seas with life and shit just happens if you think life is really what you make it and plan it out it has its own mind so fuck off.And this was a idea. :fawk2:

hahahahha. loved his response..

[SirWarrior]

You didn't state this, but I am assuming that you haven't purchased another exhaust.
A. If you have, make them pay to get their stuff or keep it if they dont want to pay for shipping.
B. If you haven't, call them up and pay for it.

[S14DB]

Call them up/email and say you don't want it and to send you a RMA or someway to return it. Make them pay to get their exhaust back or keep it if they dont want to pay for shipping.

[holisticbeatz]

Something similiar happened to me. I bought this torque wrench on eBay for super cheap. I only got it for lug nuts and it works pretty good, I think. Anyhow, I emailed the seller asking if I could just pick up the torque wrench instead cause they're located 15 minutes from my residence. Instead of paying in cash, I decided to just PayPal them. I go down and get my wrench, wasn't impressed but the price was right. Then a week later, UPS comes up to my door and delievers me another torque wrench. Coolness, now I have two cheap ass torque wrenches

[mrmephistopheles]

luisgonz: enjoy your new life with a pink username and reduced privileges.
Keep up your moronic behavior and you'll be banned.

[Luke]

pink username, lol...

[Ian]

and here i am wondering why he gets the cool pink user name lol...well yeah luis you're a douchebag and you have no idea what you're talking about...


the company should be at least notified. most of what people said here is on the money. karma is a bitch, believe it or not

[mike13]

I'm a drummer. Once i ordered a couple of things from a mailorder and they sent me 2 of the same $200+ cymbal, and some other things that i didnt even order. I didnt know what to do, so i just kept them, and never looked at them again. Needless to say my favorite cymbal mysteriously cracked a few weeks later. Karma is real.

[MurdarioStomp]

man...makes me ashamed to have gonzalez as a last name.

[sykikchimp]

If they were fucking me with crappy customer service, and making me pay more for the exhaust than I orgiinally agreed, I would make them PAY!, and then I would take my money else where. Tell them that you received the exhaust, and that they will need to pay to ship it back to them.

DO NOT FUND CRAPPY COMPANIES.

This is what capitalism is all about!

[nlzmo400r]

well i suckered in and put the fucker on my car. I am obviously keeping it now, only thing is whether or not i pay for it. My options stand as: let the company know, and ill have to pay, or just keep it until they come to me (which does me no good, because my friends mom is gonna hold my money until this is 'settled'), so now what?

[zanos]

well i suckered in and put the fucker on my car. I am obviously keeping it now, only thing is whether or not i pay for it. My options stand as: let the company know, and ill have to pay, or just keep it until they come to me (which does me no good, because my friends mom is gonna hold my money until this is 'settled'), so now what?

dude,you definatelly didnt get it-read the whole thread again,there are so many good advices.Ill give you a hint-not the ones that "pink luis" gave you.And about this companies customer service,well there are a lot of different companies out there,nobody forces you to buy from this p[articular one.So,they tried to make you pay more......well,take your money elsewhere.But ill tell you one thing,this is business and someones life depends on it(they gotta eat too),so just call them,and let them know what happened.You want the exhaust-PAY for it

[NISMOoPW]

Like you said, you were planning on paying for it anyways. You received the item, you're now USING the item, and your friend's mom is holding the cash anyways. If anything, do what she thinks is right, she's doing you a favor letting you use her account, don't be a dick. Like you said, greed takes over you, your friend's mom is acting as your conscience, and you know it. Do what's right man, even if these people suck. :angel:

You'd feel differently if you had paid them and they sent you nothing...
if they haven't noticed, when you come forward it will be a load off someone's shoulders over there. If anything, do it for the 10 minutes of relief for that one guy, even if they suck... :-/

[Fastback180]

integrity...
exelence in all you do...

brain wash the masses

[luisgonz]

so what iam pink and thats it yeah it sucks but i wont a ahole anymore

[rizzle]

I was going to mention that your friend's mom probably would go out of her way to make sure the company gets thier money or exhaust. Since she is bitching in the first place she isn't going to stop until the "right" thing is done. Now she's holding your money and you have no choice but to contact the company and let them know. If you had your own paypal account you would have came up. The moral of my post is to get your own paypal account :)

[Ian]

well if you think about it. the money changing hands/the exhaust changing hands puts this ALL on the mother...i mean, in actuality if you think about it...she bought the exhaust, she had her money refunded, she "sold" the exhaust to the kid and never paid for the exhaust.

Mom= up 520 dollars or whatever
Kid=paid for his exhaust in full
company=out 1 exhaust or 520 dollars

[240silvia]

Keep that ish!!! If they call you about it.... pay them. If they don't call, and don't even realize that you have it.... they are stupid and shouldn't be in business anyway.

[luisgonz]

listen to 240 he's right :wiggle:

[holisticbeatz]

Can I have a pink user name too?

[luisgonz]

only people that really drift get a pink username :duh:

[Skimafia]

I had something similar to this happen to me once. I bought a shirt online. About a week later, A shirt showed up. It wasnt the same shirt I ordered, so I started to wonder. I let it go one day, and the next day I got another one, the real one. Well, I called the company and told them they had sent me an extra shirt(it was a very nice embroidered shirt, quite spendy). They told me it was an obvious error on their part, and enjoy their mistake. I kinda see it like that. If they dont have the know-how to keep things like that from happening, thats their problem and they deserve to suffer for it. They make a lot of money with parts like that. Keep it

[mrmephistopheles]

Can I have a pink user name too?

*wish granted*

edit: PM me when you want to be unpink. Oh wait.. You won't be able to.. :D
AIM me then.

[TheSnail]

One month of waiting? You inpatient cock monkey. It took me four months to get a set of springs, and when I got them I still gave them a positive. I know that was a bit nice on my part, but one month? Most things I get take 2-4weeks.

[luisgonz]

can i have my taken off i"ll be a good boy. :)

[luisgonz]

Its taking me 1 1/2 month to get my d-tetro

[Salty_X]

*wish granted*
Could I get a white username? :naughty: :bow:


To stay on-topic... Since the mother is already holding the money, you might as well pay the bastards.

To go back off-topic... My bowling team, ranked 9th in the league, beat the #1 team 3 out of 4 games tonight! :w00t:

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

i dont get it wat does the pink user name do. it looks real nice and i want one.

[mrmephistopheles]

can i have my taken off i"ll be a good boy. :)

In a little under 3 months.

could I get a white username?

Nope, but I'll let you have a pink one also if you want.

i dont get it wat does the pink user name do. it looks real nice and i want one.

If you want to try it out, I don't mind. It'll reset in 3 days.

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

haha o ok i see haha. ok u can reset in 3 days or when ever you have time i guess. i ddnt know what it did. the color is cool. but not its features. hahaah.


edit: im in a zilvia dog house. is there a differnt zilvia house besides a dog house. o and i reached a 100 posts. thats cool. i get one wheel.

[boro240]

lol, i love how youre just handing out demotions to people like its candy. :wiggle: (no i dont want one, thanks.)

[mrmephistopheles]

haha o ok i see haha. ok u can reset in 3 days or when ever you have time i guess. i ddnt know what it did. the color is cool. but not its features. hahaah.


edit: im in a zilvia dog house. is there a differnt zilvia house besides a dog house. o and i reached a 100 posts. thats cool. i get one wheel.

Fun, isn't it? Believe it or not, I can make it worse! As far as there being a different house, Zilvia IS the main house. The doghouse is where we put our bad boys.

lol, i love how youre just handing out demotions to people like its candy. (no i dont want one, thanks.)

Well, they asked for it. Who am I to deny them a simple request (which happens to be funny shit)?

[jjwilks240]

here's what you should do, get a friend with paypal, tell ur friends mom that they changed their paypal account, get her to send teh money to ur friends account, u and ur friend party hearty with the money :hsdance:

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

can you make it worse as possibel without ban for 3 days.

[WheelSpin18]

What you SHOULD have done is kept your fucking mouth shut :blah:

Now the company has legal proof that you received the order and are not paying for the product.Dumbass.Unless you have proof you cancelled the order and they still sent it to you, in which case you can keep it or be a nice guy and give it back.....we all know nice guys finish last. :cool:

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

thats messed up tho. he should give the money to them. but then again what if the company didn't even know. and when you call them to tell them you got a free exhaust, then they notice that its missing. and then they find the guy whoes at fault and fire him. sorry for my grammer its sucks i know.

[S14DB]

I want a Deep Red user name like MrMeph!

Call them and tell them you have their exhaust and if they want it back they should pay for shipping. If you want to keep it, STFU and pay for it.

[nismo2491]

pay them dude. thats bad business on your part.

hey kev: as long as you're handing out pink demotions and stuff what's the chances of being a mod?? I'm already a stellar mod on www.midatlantic240sx.com ahhh come on man!! USMC semper fi, you're in japan where I want to be.
haha :)
KEvin

[einherjar]

here's what you should do, get a friend with paypal, tell ur friends mom that they changed their paypal account, get her to send teh money to ur friends account, u and ur friend party hearty with the money :hsdance:


... thats not a very canadian response man.

Dude, put yourself in their shoes, they might be a bunch of guys working out of a garage??? ... or maybe not if they haven't noticed it yet.

do the right thing dammit


`Racer 240sx (for jjwilks)

[statik]

when i orderd headers for my subaru, they sent 2 sets for some reason, i kept it for awhile and waited to see if they said anything, after a month i just gave it to my friend...maybe that cancelled out the bad juju?

[mrmephistopheles]

what's the chances of being a mod??
KEvin

You're SOL for the time being, brother. Our fellow devilnuts ThatGuy has just been made a mobsterator, and I don't know when we'll need a new one.

[mrmephistopheles]

can you make it worse as possibel without ban for 3 days.

HAHAHAHHAH sure! You're gonna hate life on here though.

[ThatGuy]

You're SOL for the time being, brother. Our fellow devilnuts ThatGuy has just been made a mobsterator, and I don't know when we'll need a new one.

:DMobsterator for life!

[mrmephistopheles]

:DMobsterator for life!

REPRESENT!

[24Zero]

K A R M A ...

EXACTLY!!!

[HockeyMatt04]

i'm gonna laugh when they report you to the police for theft/theft of services and you get charged, in addition to taking you to court..... nothing in life is free, do the right thing... i'm scrounging for money just to pay my college and insurance, but u don't see me bitching about having a ruff life or shit

[nightwalker]

I probably would have not posted a thread about it. Now the chances of them finding out are higher.

[nokeone]

blah..all you goodie do gooders...lol..

who's to say this isn't Karma smiling on him?...maybe this is his return for something he did good in the past or for some suffering he went through...maybe this company fucked someone over...this is Karma getting them back...

personally i'd keep it...if they call...then make the decision to return it at their expense...or pay for it at that time if you decide you want it...being lazy and not taking the initiative to call them is not a crime...there is no legal action they can take at this time..they refunded your money..there is your proof that you canceled the order...they sent you the exhaust...you didn't steal anything...it was obviously a mistake but it wasn't your fault or because of something you did that the mistake was made...it's 100% on their end...

i'd be pissed at your friend's mom...tell her to give you your money back and you'll handle it..

[HyperTek]

i agree with nokeone, if they notice, they will learn not to do this again. from the business point of view, it sucks. just gotta choose if you wanna be the good side or the dark side..

[old_s13]

stupid fucks.

you receive the product you ordered and you KEEP it because you were refunded? you are idiots. they have tracking to see where products are shipped, and they have signature proof of delivery.

all this means that they can take you to court and sue your ass to get their product/money back. will they do it? will they go through that? who knows. BUT, do YOU want to go through that?

think about it fuck nuts, you screw companies they go out of business. if you dont give a fuck, thats fine.. but in the long run, it only hurts you.. because the 240sx community is not large, its small.

and posting about it on a forum, the intelligence REALLY isnt here, is it? jesus.. someone give me a hammer. better yet, if i was moderator i'de blacklist a shitload of you ass heads. its not about karma, its about being a decent individual.

[holisticbeatz]

its not about karma, its about being a decent individual.


:keke: Holy crap, you're the last person who should be saying that old_s13. Get off your soapbox..

[nismo2491]

being a decent individual and being an asshole are two different things. one involves morals, which mike has. one involves lack of respect, which mike also has in spades (lack of that is).

dude, seriously, just pay for it, either way your not getting the $$, your friends mom is keeping it until you make right.
KEvin

[nokeone]

stupid fucks.

lookin in the mirror again?..

you receive the product you ordered and you KEEP it because you were refunded? you are idiots. they have tracking to see where products are shipped, and they have signature proof of delivery.

all this means that they can take you to court and sue your ass to get their product/money back. will they do it? will they go through that? who knows. BUT, do YOU want to go through that?

you are assuming that once they notice and notify him of such he still refuses to pay them or return the product...i would hope this is not the path he chooses...but it is the only one which could lead to legal trouble..at this present time he is in violation of nothing at all...shit, i sign for packages for myself or my house mates all the time not knowing what they are...

think about it fuck nuts, you screw companies they go out of business. if you dont give a fuck, thats fine.. but in the long run, it only hurts you.. because the 240sx community is not large, its small.

agreed..but it didn't come across as a common 240 shop/store...one that caters to and supports this community...quite the opposite in fact..

[nismo2491]

I still say I should be made mod :(





just bitching because I'm bored. I actually still say he should pay for it.
KEvin

[luisgonz]

After reading all the people's post on this subject i'll take back about not paying for it .You all have shown me the way of being a kind individual and have moral respect for others. But I don't take back saying "FUCK ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY", Fellow zilvialians please for give for i have sined. :faint:

[mrmephistopheles]

After reading all the people's post on this subject i'll take back about not paying for it .You all have shown me the way of being a kind individual and have moral respect for others. But I don't take back saying "FUCK ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY", Fellow zilvialians please for give for i have sined. :faint:

It's hard as shit to do anything now, huh?

[drifterx]

i read this post a while ago and i felt that Luis was treated unfair... he has the right to voice his opinion, although i totally disagree with him but he was never offensive till someone called him a fag and other crap... Mcmephistopheles: just cause u dont agree with him doesnt mean he did something wrong. it isnt fair u turned him pink (hahah it is funny though) but it isnt fair
i personally believe in honesty and i never agreed with him but i can say i never had a problem with mcmephistopheles but i have heard people say he is full of himself and i must agree i see it sometime. DUDE YOUR JUST A MODERATOR, SO WAS I! but i am not attacking you but i just want to voice my opinion and tell you what others say about you, and i have heard people say they do not sign onto the site because of you. You are a moderator and u represent the site. But also in mcmephistopheles' defense, he does clean up alot of crap that people post up... he is more like a cop who gets sick of seeing shit, so guys, just make his job easier.... and i am sure he wont turn u pink (but honestly i think u should set luis back to normal. I dont know Luis and i really dont care what you do with him but i just wanna be fair...... SOMEONE DID START ATTACKING HIM PERSONALLY FIRST...

[ThatGuy]

drifterx, I'm not sure you know the whole story. If you would like to ask MrMeph about it, please take it to PM.

[drifterx]

drifterx, I'm not sure you know the whole story. If you would like to ask MrMeph about it, please take it to PM.

09-27-2004, 03:59 AM #2
lean
I'd come forward without them asking and give em the money. Don't be a dick and do the right thing. You wouldn't want to be on their end and have to eat that much money. If you don't want to pay for the exhaust, at least let them pay for you to ship it back to em.

Being honest is the way to go. If you aren't, it WILL come back on you down the line. Also, it may come back on your friends mom, could get ugly in the courts and just be a plain mess if things aren't cleared up right away.

09-27-2004, 04:06 AM #3
luisgonz
Keep that shit....fuck them because they should have the item when you ordered it because you had to wait ,just for waiting time its free..and guess what if shit happens to you its not carma its stupidity deal with it dont blame it on on some fake shit.


zanos
yeah,lean is right.Just do the right thing,pay for the thing.I know it looks nice-"free exhsaust".......but in the long run its not worth it.

zanos
Posted by luisgonz
Keep that shit....fuck them because they should have the item when you ordered it because you had to wait ,just for waiting time its free..and guess what if shit happens to you its not carma its stupidity deal with it dont blame it on on some fake shit.


and dont listen to the idiots like this

luisgonz
dude fuck you and everyone thats says iam a idiot you bitch ass fag
i have gone through ruff seas with life and shit just happens if you think life is really what you make it and plan it out it has its own mind so fuck off.And this was a idea





i read the first page again and it seem like he was attacked........i think there needs to be a little bit more respect on how people talk to other people.... THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY FUCKING HATERS IN THIS WORLD....
zanos called him an idiot and he called him a fag back......
glad i am not a moderator anymore, it is like babysitting

[ThatGuy]

glad i am not a moderator anymore, it is like babysitting

Yes it is. And Luisgonz got a light punishment. He didn't get banned. He has been a good boy since this happened, and his punishment will be lifted when the time comes. If you have a question about his punishment, once again I ask you to PM MrMeph and discuss it with him. I ask you to take this to PM become I really didn't want this shit cluttering up the thread. But oh well, guess I have to babysit.

[mrmephistopheles]

Hey drifterx! (sorry I can't remember your name offhand!) Nice to see you, man!
I say my making him pink and reducing his priveleges WAS fair. Please see the 6th post in the thread (of which I'll quote a portion)
dude fuck you and everyone thats says iam a idiot you bitch ass fag
This is the part that got him reduced privileges.
He will be set back to normal after a few months, and this 'punishment' is very light in my opinion.
It wasn't too long ago that we simply resorted to permabans for stupid stuff. I do respect your opinion, believe me.
Yes, someone called him an idiot first.
I'm sure you agree, however, that there is a stark difference between a simple insult and the volley of insults he returned. I don't mind people trading light insults so much as I mind them using racial or sexual slurs, with or without the colorful adjectives.
A more proper response from luisgonz would've been to report zanos's post, and reply to zanos (via PM or the thread) that namecalling isn't necessary, as he's merely sharing his opinion (albiet in a forceful and preachy way).
Since he couldn't seem to control his temper, that didn't happen.

As far as the other pink usernames are concerned, I mainly did it to demonstrate to othe users what luisgonz was having to face for the next 3 months. holisticbeatz has already been reverted to normal, and xxjapXXXXwhatever will revert in a day or so.
The whole 'pink username' thing is a new feature that I think was added after you stopped being a mod.
The basics are as follows: users are restricted to Chat and Tech Talk, have no PM function, cannot post new threads, cannot edit their profiles, etc.
If you want to try out a 'pink' username, PM me and I'll send you login info for the demo account. (drifterx only - anybody else asks, i'll delete your pm and make you pink for a month! :) )

[nokeone]

i think it's a little unfair that you use pink for this punishment...making it seem like pink in and of itself is a bad thing...lol..=P

and am i still on strike three?..lol..although at this point i think it's endearing that it says that...:)

[mk20116]

if this goes anything like credit card chargebacks,

the customer will issue a chargeback, and the credit card company will issue it if it falls by visa/mastercard rules and/or regulations. the company will be issued a chargeback and documents relating to the chargeback. basically explanation of why and when it will be chargedback to the customer account. the company in turn will issue an explanation of the situation and maybe get the decision reversed.(yea...sure)

as for getting sued, i think the chances of that happening are slim...(i think small claims court is about $300.00 minimum for loss) but the person getting sued would probably be your friends mom.(it's her account) and by having a signed signature for the item doesn't really do much, cause i've heard of people getting computers by doing chargebacks on their card after signing for their computer through the shipper(ie..ups/fedex)

receiving product without paying for it is good for you. but it just comes down to your own morals.

btw.. it does suck for a business to get chargebacks. think how you'd feel if a customer charged back their entire receipt for a ONE dead plant... :rant: it's just f***** messed up.

oh almost forgot....
they know about it by now i think. mainly cause you only get one week to gather your information to fax/send back to the creditcard company. or they make you resolve the solution with the customer...(most likely they have to solve the problem with you.) so whether or not you get sued will probably be up to the company...

just don't be surprised if the sheriff and/or courier knocks.

( i think i explained most...maybe missed a couple steps) :drama: :drama:

[mrmephistopheles]

i think it's a little unfair that you use pink for this punishment...making it seem like pink in and of itself is a bad thing...lol..=P

and am i still on strike three?..lol..although at this point i think it's endearing that it says that...:)

It's not to make pink seem a bad thing, just to bring attention to the username so we mods/admins can keep an eye on them.

Yeah.. still on strike 3, Noah.. you dork.. :)
You'll have to do something badass to get reduced to strike 2 or 1... like getting a tattoo of Zilvia.net.. or donating $50 to Zilvia.. (that'll even score you some stickers and a premium membership).

What was strike 2? I remember strike 1... *sack*

[nokeone]

It's not to make pink seem a bad thing, just to bring attention to the username so we mods/admins can keep an eye on them.

haha i know...just poking fun because of the pink club...:)...wish we could all have pink user names without the restrictions...

Yeah.. still on strike 3, Noah.. you dork.. :)
You'll have to do something badass to get reduced to strike 2 or 1... like getting a tattoo of Zilvia.net.. or donating $50 to Zilvia.. (that'll even score you some stickers and a premium membership).

What was strike 2? I remember strike 1... *sack*

hahaha...hmmm..tattoo huh?...i think i'll have to go with the $50 and stickers and premium status...i'm poor though...so can i do installments?..like $5 a month?... :fruit:

i think we skipped to strike three...lol..cause i only remember strike one as well...no worries though...i figure i'd have to do some seriously stupid shit to get a perma ban...so it's all good

[mrmephistopheles]

no... there was definitely a strike 2. i think you posted a tubgirl link or something.

[nokeone]

what's a tubgirl?...lol..

i really only think there was 'sack'..for which i was banned for 3 weeks i think...and then posting that ipod thingy for which i got 3 days...

is there any way to check user history to see how many times a user was banned or put on probation?

[mrmephistopheles]

ohh yeah.. the ipod thing.
none that I know of. Lately we've been keeping track of this sort of thing in the mod corner.

[420sx]

yea the call to the company should go like this:

-"yea hi, i got a free exhaust from you guys in the mail today, what should i do about that?"
- eeer ooooookay......" click

[andrave]

I ordered some wheels from jarco and they never billed my CC, I dunno whats up.
They were only 5.50 so its not like they were out a lot.

[tastyratz]

its been said alot of things too. the fact that you used it already sealed your deal. you cant get the cash back with your friends mom so your stuck with that being dealt with period. yes it is about being a decent human being and a decent individual but it all comes down to the company as well. does that company rip tons of people off and give bad service? is it a small little back company or something huge? i know most of us wouldnt feel bad at all ripping off a dirty company like microsoft but something like powertrix or pdm wed double think. its not that they tried to screw you with the exhaust necessarily because they might have found out its gotta be more cash at that point as well and they happily refunded your money. now if they didnt update their site then maybe they are roping people in however... you shouldnt have to cover shipping from then and the other thing is if they tried to screw you a little and they are asses and a horrid company but you had your morals there you could lightly screw them a bit and tell them you will ship it back for shipping AND HANDLING costs since you work and your time is worth money as well. that makes sense and this is an inconvenience to you and you should charge a little extra because of that its just that how much extra you tell them you want is up to you... this is food in that guys mouth so a big item like the n1 is a big hit and the smaller the company the easier to keep track of things and realize in their quarterly reports but the way i take it is i have no problem giving a dicking back to a company that tried to dick me. just make sure that exhaust looks new when it gets back to them or get another one new and ship it to them... technically i dont think there is legal ground they can really hold you on with that exhaust because you notified them you did not wish to complete a business transaction and withdrew your cash. them sending the exhaust is like an act of charity because you told them you didnt want it. whats the moral of my rambling? mike is right but hes still a dick! :P

[proj240sx]

well first off kid zelda is right, karma owns all.

second you shouldnt keep it in the first place, it isnt even your paypal account. they wont go after you, they will go after the owner of that paypal account. which is someones mom. if it was your paypal account then you have the right to be a asshole or be nice about it. if i actually let someone use my paypal and that crap happened i would keep their money too, because there is no damn way im gonna pay for it when they find out. so just pay up, you have the money set aside anyways.

[luisgonz]

thanks everyone for standing up to (who ever turned me this way)but i have to say i was just leting people hear my voice and iam getting tired of being pinked.But i can say one thing i like the color and