View Full Version : The everything cd009 swap thread.
roninwon
05-01-2016, 01:01 PM
With the ever growing popularity of the z33 swap option I thought that it was time for its own dedicated thread. This page will entail specifics on every available option for swapping in the trans. My build is ongoing so I will rely on other members to help build this page.
Adapters:
There are several on the market to choose from
Maverick motorsports
http://www.maverick-motorsports.com/collections/transmission-adapters/products/z33-transmission-adapter-plate
COST: $430
I personally own this plate and I can say the quality and precision is spot on
Collins
http://collinsadapters.com/index.php/adapter-plates/sr20det-to-350z-transmission-adapter-plate.html
COST: $350
Mazworx
http://www.mazworx.com/srvq-bellhousing.aspx
COST: $900
The price is high on this one but it doesn't require you to use an adapter plate. However you do need to cut your bell housing to use this. Keep that in mind if you have a warranty.
Autotech
http://www.autotechmotoring.com/products/transmission/transmission-adapter-plates/
COST: $295
I thought JWT had an option but I can't find it. Their website feels encrypted sometimes.
Slave cylinder option:
Internal or external. My opinion external is the way to go with these transmissions due to the amount of negative reviews on the internal. From what I've read Nissan didn't quite fix the internal slave problem till the later model 370z's. Another downside is if your slave fails you'll need to pull the trans off just to correct the issue.
Clutch fork, carrier, bearing, pivot ball
I can't speak for other kits but the Maverick motorsports kit requires you to use the z33 clutch fork, extended pivot ball and clip. I bought the upgraded version from z1motorsports.
https://www.z1motorsports.com/trans-case-and-clutch-release/nissan/upgraded-clutch-release-fork-assembly-kit-p-5400.html
Will you need to use the sr20 carrier and throw out bearing.
Cross members.
Again there are a few options
Maverick motorsports
http://www.maverick-motorsports.com/collections/transmission-adapters/products/z33-transmission-adapter-plate
COST: $100
Collins
http://collinsadapters.com/index.php/adapter-plates/nissan-s13-s14-s15-to-350z-transmission-conversion-crossmember-and-mount.html
COST: $175
Xcessive
http://www.driftmotion.com/N-S-VQ-TCM-S1-p/dm3301.htm
COST: $128
This kit allows you to use the z32 trans mount only.
Driveshaft.
Only option I'm aware of that you can buy directly from is shaft masters. They have an ABS and non ABS option.
http://shaftmasters.com/aldrni2419wi.html
COST: $398
Shifter modification.
Everyone who has looked into this swap know about the terrible shifter placement that requires cutting into the chassis. Well after a ton of research looking into Ive found 2 companies that are now building custom shifters for various application with the cd009.
First is Jason Farmer at CBF Performance. I've personally talked with him about his product and offered what solution would be best for my platform which is his rear mount set up. His products can be purchased for around high 200- mid 300.
Currently on sale for a group buy at $185
http://www.cbfperformance.net/store#!/Group-Buy-Billet-CD009-Rear-Mount-Shifter/p/67349541/category=19722030
https://youtu.be/mYsGvVwlySE
The other is SERIALNine. From the amount of info they put out it looks like they will only be releasing a mid mount set up which MIGHT bang against the body. They are currently in production and should be available late May. Heard the retail will be about $350 US. Will post link when available.
https://youtu.be/Z-0pZXw04r0
If there's anything missing or you just have questions just let me know.
Here's a link just for the transmission FSM
http://boredmder.com/FSMs/Nissan/350z/2003/MT.pdf
Torque chart on MT22
rbs14kouki
05-01-2016, 05:15 PM
autotech motoring as a plate too (sr to vq and ka to vq)
i went with the mazworx kit since i plan on running a tripple plate on my set-up ... just a heads-up , the g37/z34 and g35/z33 dont have the same outside diameter input shaft bearing (g37 smaller vs 350z bigger) ... so mazworx is sending me a little centering ring for it to compensate for the samller bearing and for it to work 100%
rbs14kouki
05-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Mazworx made a video to help out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkyRquTwNoE
on my set-up i tried cutting before the second ridge ... to limit the gap in between the bellhousing and the transmission . it doesnt work its to tight
you need to cut right after the second ridge for it to get my result .. in the mazworx instruction they say to cute 1/4 pass the second ridge but i dont realy like the result ...
it was cut with a grinder
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13100840_10154820712619616_7475830321971987627_n.j pg?oh=4f8cda6c5264d0d150868f7cc8117a8c&oe=57BCA9CA
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13100793_10154820712789616_2656617511148407381_n.j pg?oh=43e19eb92128b6032ae0f26486bb6641&oe=57E7347F
ill be running an internal release bearing from Tilton .
https://tiltonracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/HRB-8XXX-Series.pdf
roninwon
05-01-2016, 05:22 PM
Fantastic addition to the thread.
rbs14kouki
05-01-2016, 05:34 PM
shifter option ...
mazworx billet bracket ... with there kit you need to get the Stock shifter spring and reverse lock plate (nissan part num : 32822-cd00a and 32879-cd00a)
http://www.mazworx.com/resize/Shared/Images/Product/Mazworx-Z33-Shifter-Bracket/DSC08725.jpg?lr=t&bw=550&w=550&bh=550&h=550
gktech is about to release this one ... im waiting for this one for my set-up
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12519622_591987504283085_1389626163_n.jpg?ig_cache _key=MTIwMjgyMTc1NDk4Njk3MjEzMA%3D%3D.2.l
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/923876_574940669338872_311598368_n.jpg?ig_cache_ke y=MTIxMDcxMDAyODI2Mjg1MDc4Mw%3D%3D.2
rbs14kouki
05-01-2016, 05:45 PM
Jim wolf tech kit
https://conceptzperformance.com/jim-wolf-technology-jwt-l6spd-srrwd-z33-transmission-on-sr20-rwd-engine-adapter-kit_p_3285.php
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/newsImages/m6_trans_adaptor_kit_web.jpg
rawgarage
05-01-2016, 07:22 PM
Serial nine shifter....
https://www.facebook.com/gerard.deperalta/videos/1297626303596674/
roninwon
05-01-2016, 07:38 PM
I wonder if the gktech one maintains the reverse lockout?
roninwon
05-01-2016, 07:53 PM
Just reading into the gktech and it will have reverse lockout. Still looking for a projected price though.
Mister.E
05-01-2016, 08:08 PM
In to see if anyone can perfect the shifter setup when mated to a JZ motor.
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roninwon
05-01-2016, 08:21 PM
In to see if anyone can perfect the shifter setup when mated to a JZ motor.
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What's it going in?
2muchboost
05-02-2016, 07:28 AM
Fantastic info here. The CD009 related swap information was scattered throughout different resources. Not much to contribute but will be following this thread.
Cheers gents....finally something worth reading again.
Mister.E
05-02-2016, 07:54 AM
What's it going in?
If i decided to go this route, it would be in my S14. All of the pics ive seen of these shifters have been with the z tranny mounted on an SR.
roninwon
05-02-2016, 08:15 AM
I know that Maverick motorsports has a ka to vq trans plate.
roninwon
05-02-2016, 08:22 AM
http://www.maverick-motorsports.com/collections/transmission-adapters/products/ka24-vq-transmission-adapter-plate
Mister.E
05-02-2016, 08:38 AM
Finding the adapter for a JZ setup isn't the issue; the tranny is too long. As far as I know, no one has a guaranteed shifter solution for the JZ/CD combo that places the shifter in a stock location.
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Kylepaschke
05-02-2016, 08:46 AM
I personally went the Mazworx route as well
http://i65.tinypic.com/2lsbpe8.jpg[/IMG]sneak peak of the shifter that Jason is making for me
Kylepaschke
05-02-2016, 08:47 AM
Does anyone know what the best transmission fluid to run is??
OEM Nissan?
Torco?
Redline?
roninwon
05-02-2016, 08:54 AM
I used to have a 350z and when I redid the trans fluid I went with Motul. It made it a lot quieter.
Jorgs_7
05-02-2016, 11:08 AM
Sub'd. Bout time someone made this thread.
LuckyX2
05-02-2016, 12:20 PM
Just reading into the gktech and it will have reverse lockout. Still looking for a projected price though.
I'd expect the GKTech stuff to be competetively priced as with their other parts. Plus the exchange rate favors anyone buying in the US.
Black240Ct
05-02-2016, 12:31 PM
Does anyone know what the best transmission fluid to run is??
OEM Nissan?
Torco?
Redline?
I run redline light weight shock proof. replace it once a year with drifting.
rbs14kouki
05-02-2016, 02:10 PM
I know that Maverick motorsports has a ka to vq trans plate.
Collins as a ka / rb plate as well . Autotech motoring just release is ka plate couple weeks ago .
I had the autotech one before going to mazwprx bellhousing ... i did the change because of clutch option ... with a plate style your limited to single plate clutch . On A multi plate clutch with those plate style your second disque doesnt have full spline engadment
roninwon
05-02-2016, 02:18 PM
I'd expect the GKTech stuff to be competetively priced as with their other parts. Plus the exchange rate favors anyone buying in the US.
I dug a little deeper and found gktech is doing a group prebuy here soon starting at $175 😱. You'll need to send an email to
[email protected]
S-Verteen
05-02-2016, 03:40 PM
Collins plate to ka requires a little trim at the bottom to clear the flywheel. I believe 14mm off the bell housing and a hole in the bell housing for the nose cone of the starter. the gk shifter requires no mods to the chassis. The driveshaft shop did my driveshaft. Also the locating pins are removed must be for the rb. and a custom dust shield was made to cover the bh.
Collins as a ka / rb plate as well . Autotech motoring just release is ka plate couple weeks ago .
I had the autotech one before going to mazwprx bellhousing ... i did the change because of clutch option ... with a plate style your limited to single plate clutch . On A multi plate clutch with those plate style your second disque doesnt have full spline engadment
ATS & HKS Clutch kits use a center hub type clutch system on their twin disk. I'm using the ATS Twin disk with the Maverick adapter on my SR CD0009 setup works fine with full engagement.
Joobie610
05-02-2016, 05:40 PM
I'm using a local kit for SR20 to z33 in Australia by Insane Drifters. They're on fb.
https://facebook.com/InsaneDrifters/
Paid AUD $2350.00 including shipping.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160502/22d315d32c0163203d0c30b75704d6fe.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160502/4669bc8ed817208b2cb9c5ccbc014d5d.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160502/811c68ea699ef977069bfbdef42ae9c4.jpg
It came with:
- Adapter plate
- Bellhousing machining
- Test fit to ensure everything fit without further modification (no chassis mods)
- Shifter w/ Reverse Lockout
- Gearbox crossmember adapter plates (suit s15 gearbox crossmember and factory mount)
- All required bolts/nuts/washers
- Braided clutch line to suit RHD s13 master to z33 slave
- Single piece tailshaft to suit abs housing
I haven't fit it to the car yet, but he uses the same setup in his ADGP s13 and his old man's daily s15. Looks the goods, comes out in factory location with no need to modify anything.
I believe he would be willing to sell components separately, I just couldn't say no to having it test fit before I coughed up dough.
Edit: I'm using the factory z33 throwout fork and pivot with a Nismo Super coppermix twin plate. I've been told that it will work - another customer has used it before I think.
roninwon
05-02-2016, 06:12 PM
Holy sheet nice setup. A bit heavy on that wallet though. I should look into their clutch line cause I also have a RHD.
Joobie610
05-02-2016, 06:48 PM
Yeah, bit exxy, but when everything is made to order and test fit by a guy who does this and builds sr20 engines for a living, you know you're getting quality.
They will custom make the line for you to suit the application (I.e. Correct fittings and length for any master/slave combo).
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roninwon
05-02-2016, 07:07 PM
Gotta pay to play dawg! Thanks for the heads up. I messaged them so I'll just have to wait.
Dboyizmlg
05-02-2016, 08:10 PM
I'm using a local kit for SR20 to z33 in Australia by Insane Drifters. They're on fb.
https://facebook.com/InsaneDrifters/
Paid AUD $2350.00 including shipping.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160502/22d315d32c0163203d0c30b75704d6fe.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160502/4669bc8ed817208b2cb9c5ccbc014d5d.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160502/811c68ea699ef977069bfbdef42ae9c4.jpg
It came with:
- Adapter plate
- Bellhousing machining
- Test fit to ensure everything fit without further modification (no chassis mods)
- Shifter w/ Reverse Lockout
- Gearbox crossmember adapter plates (suit s15 gearbox crossmember and factory mount)
- All required bolts/nuts/washers
- Braided clutch line to suit RHD s13 master to z33 slave
- Single piece tailshaft to suit abs housing
I haven't fit it to the car yet, but he uses the same setup in his ADGP s13 and his old man's daily s15. Looks the goods, comes out in factory location with no need to modify anything.
I believe he would be willing to sell components separately, I just couldn't say no to having it test fit before I coughed up dough.
Edit: I'm using the factory z33 throwout fork and pivot with a Nismo Super coppermix twin plate. I've been told that it will work - another customer has used it before I think.
That looks really good!
Is it cheaper than the Mazworx kit?
S-Verteen
05-02-2016, 08:34 PM
Rbs14 kouki im running a twin disc clutchmasters clutch for an rb on my ka that was ordered through enjukuhttp://www.enjukuracing.com/competition-clutch-184mm-rigid-twin-nissan-skyline-2-5l-push-style-clutch-1989-2002/ . After taking measurements and finding what throw out bearing retainer was needed and putting a bolt through the clutch switch for a pedal limit success! Collins sells throw out adapters here http://collinsadapters.com/index.php/adaption-components/clutch-release-bearing-adapter.html
roninwon
05-02-2016, 08:55 PM
Please post links to any item you mention to help everyone
rbs14kouki
05-02-2016, 09:13 PM
ATS & HKS Clutch kits use a center hub type clutch system on their twin disk. I'm using the ATS Twin disk with the Maverick adapter on my SR CD0009 setup works fine with full engagement.
Good point there
Yeah sorry i should of said that ... if your center hub is one peice and you have flotters friction discs youll be fine ... but im runing a comp tripple and they are one piece
TheRealSy90
05-02-2016, 09:15 PM
I believe the Mazworx kit is actually slightly cheaper than the InsaneDrifters kit. However the InsaneDrifters kit has a way better shifter relocation solution than Mazworx. The Mazworx relocation requires cutting the hole in the chassis although it does come with a metal plate to cover the new hole and clean it up. Also it BARELY clears the plastic shifter trim in S14 and S13.
I went with the Mazworx full kit myself, had to send the bellhousing back initially as they forgot to machine a relief for the 2nd gear selector rod, and they exchanged it for a revised one that should be arriving in the mail tomorrow.
Fricshon
05-02-2016, 09:17 PM
This seems Sr specific but I wanted to add my experience about rb25 to z33 adapter. The Collins adapters for this application is really poorly made and while they're patient on the phone there is truly not that much support. Plan on a lot lot of Fabrication and lot of headaches. If there's interest or further information needed on this I would be glad to comment.
roninwon
05-02-2016, 09:47 PM
I believe the Mazworx kit is actually slightly cheaper than the InsaneDrifters kit. However the InsaneDrifters kit has a way better shifter relocation solution than Mazworx. The Mazworx relocation requires cutting the hole in the chassis although it does come with a metal plate to cover the new hole and clean it up. Also it BARELY clears the plastic shifter trim in S14 and in S13 it actually touches the trim in 2nd, 4th, 6th and Reverse.
I went with the Mazworx full kit myself, had to send the bellhousing back initially as they forgot to machine a relief for the 2nd gear selector rod, and they exchanged it for a revised one that should be arriving in the mail tomorrow.
Hey sylus good to hear from you again. Yeah mazworx hasn't corrected the shifter problem yet but we've commented a lot about better shifter options on the first page.
TheRealSy90
05-02-2016, 09:54 PM
We gotta get our kits installed so we can start making more videos of 6sp sr20's lol.
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roninwon
05-02-2016, 09:57 PM
I'm still a long way away. My build is still on IMS. although that's a dead site now.
jerry_beans
05-02-2016, 11:55 PM
Awesome thread! I'm sub'd as well
LuckyX2
05-03-2016, 06:23 AM
I dug a little deeper and found gktech is doing a group prebuy here soon starting at $175 😱. You'll need to send an email to
[email protected]
USD or AUD? Either way, that's a good deal and I'll be sending him an email. Thanks for the info.
RickS14
05-03-2016, 06:53 AM
It's odd that some plates don't have dowel pins. I would think that's pretty important as far as install and it being lined up correctly.
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roninwon
05-03-2016, 07:23 AM
USD or AUD? Either way, that's a good deal and I'll be sending him an email. Thanks for the info.
That's usd.
LoSt180
05-03-2016, 08:10 AM
Following to see how this evolves. I'm interested in a better shifter placement, if possible, to avoid cutting up my chassis.
Does anyone know what the best transmission fluid to run is??
OEM Nissan?
Torco?
Redline?
I have a G35 6MT in addition to the S14. Best fluids are either Nissan MTF or Redline MT85.
Redline MT90 was used on the older SR/KA trans and is a little too thick for the Z33 trans. Basically takes the same GL4 fluids we're used to dealing with on all Nissan manual transmissions.
Joobie610
05-03-2016, 06:57 PM
That looks really good!
Is it cheaper than the Mazworx kit?
Honestly, I didn't even look at pricing to begin with. I looked for the best kit and then it came down to cut and shut bellhousing, custom tailshaft, working out a Shifter solution, etc. I decided it was easier to just get it all through someone in Aus, and not have to deal with multiple companies. InsaneDrifters are about the only mob to do the whole bolt in kit locally.
I believe the Mazworx kit is actually slightly cheaper than the InsaneDrifters kit. However the InsaneDrifters kit has a way better shifter relocation solution than Mazworx. The Mazworx relocation requires cutting the hole in the chassis although it does come with a metal plate to cover the new hole and clean it up. Also it BARELY clears the plastic shifter trim in S14 and in S13 it actually touches the trim in 2nd, 4th, 6th and Reverse.
I went with the Mazworx full kit myself, had to send the bellhousing back initially as they forgot to machine a relief for the 2nd gear selector rod, and they exchanged it for a revised one that should be arriving in the mail tomorrow.
That hole is part of the reason I went ID. With our modification laws, it will make life easier if I get sent over the pits.
Kylepaschke
05-09-2016, 12:27 PM
Mazworx Bellhousing kit
CBF Performance rear mount shifter
Torque Solutions Shift Knob
Competition stage 4 6 puck sprung.
http://i.imgur.com/FufyOIf.jpg
Mister.E
05-09-2016, 12:59 PM
Does that bellhousing adapter take some of the length out of the tranny?
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Kylepaschke
05-09-2016, 01:31 PM
You must cut the input shaft for this kit
Mister.E
05-09-2016, 05:32 PM
Errr nevermind...
Just realized that Maxworx does not have a bellhousing conversion kit for the JZ motors.
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roninwon
05-11-2016, 05:29 PM
Updated first post to add a direct link to the FSM
Yellow4g63
05-11-2016, 07:16 PM
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If the link didn't work just search kgarage_sr20vets on instagram.
roninwon
05-11-2016, 08:10 PM
In those pics he's running to mazworx adapter kit which requires you to cut the input shaft 3/8". His shifter sits center so therefore anyone who doesn't run that kit will have to assume the shifter will sit 3/8" farther back. Which it still looks like it would work just from eyeballing it.
Drftr915
05-12-2016, 01:53 AM
Can someone line me up with GBF Performance?
Also am I the only one who can never get ahold of Maverick Motorsports?
Has anyone tried cutting the stock 350z driveshaft to work? Is it possible?
PARTS I HAVE:
- CD009
- Autotech motoring adapter plate
PARTS NEEDED:
- shifter mod
- cross member
- driveshaft
LoSt180
05-12-2016, 07:12 AM
Has anyone tried cutting the stock 350z driveshaft to work? Is it possible?
The stock 350Z driveshaft is carbon fiber, I don't think it can be cut very easily. A G35 driveshaft is the same 2 piece design as the 240, so it may be possible to merge the two halves. Just a thought, haven't looked into it and most people go for a 1-piece anyway.
JDMS1lv1a
05-12-2016, 10:38 AM
Great information here, giving me confidence about doing this to my s15 SR...but these transmissions dont seem to grow on trees like SR's and KA's. Is buying new the best/only option? Its not a cheap swap to begin with so it seems going all out with a new one makes most sense?
roninwon
05-12-2016, 11:21 AM
Great information here, giving me confidence about doing this to my s15 SR...but these transmissions dont seem to grow on trees like SR's and KA's. Is buying new the best/only option? Its not a cheap swap to begin with so it seems going all out with a new one makes most sense?
Sometimes it's just better to wait and find a used one. I got my cd008 with only 12k on it for $400 on Craigslist. Just keep an eye out and search everywhere.
Kylepaschke
05-12-2016, 11:23 AM
JDMS1lv1a (http://zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=53475)
There are a lot more floating around than you may think.
Try LKQ or even Ebay using the part numbers
32010-CD00A
or
32010-CD009.
Another option is to literally buy a junkyard car from copart.com for like cheap as balls and rob the transmission from that.
OR
get a new one for $1800 https://conceptzperformance.com/nissan-oem-32010-cd00a-32010-cd009-manual-transmission-nissan-350z-03-06-z33_p_2887.php and not deal with any wonders.
2muchboost
05-12-2016, 05:45 PM
Search Craiglist and such. Found a few low mileage (less than 60k) for CD009's going for $800 or less. Someone local to me beat me to the punch and picked one up for $450 with 25k miles....bastardo!
roninwon
05-12-2016, 06:15 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Intellitronix/556/S9020/10002/-1?CAWELAID=230006180011664979&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15769068431&CATCI=pla-190704188231&gclid=CLLJhpji1cwCFQeTfgodt2EDcA
Does anyone think this gps converter would work instead of the Dakota.
Rb26kouki
05-12-2016, 07:37 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Intellitronix/556/S9020/10002/-1?CAWELAID=230006180011664979&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15769068431&CATCI=pla-190704188231&gclid=CLLJhpji1cwCFQeTfgodt2EDcA
Does anyone think this gps converter would work instead of the Dakota.
I like this.
Worth a try
Yellow4g63
05-12-2016, 07:39 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Intellitronix/556/S9020/10002/-1?CAWELAID=230006180011664979&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15769068431&CATCI=pla-190704188231&gclid=CLLJhpji1cwCFQeTfgodt2EDcA
Does anyone think this gps converter would work instead of the Dakota.
Looks like a good unit from the short search I found. It outputs to the stock spedo so it should work good.
roninwon
05-12-2016, 07:41 PM
Definitely going to try it out.
Mister.E
05-12-2016, 09:01 PM
How many pulses is the stock speedo?
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JDMS1lv1a
05-13-2016, 09:41 AM
Sometimes it's just better to wait and find a used one. I got my cd008 with only 12k on it for $400 on Craigslist. Just keep an eye out and search everywhere.
JDMS1lv1a (http://zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=53475)
There are a lot more floating around than you may think.
Try LKQ or even Ebay using the part numbers
32010-CD00A
or
32010-CD009.
Another option is to literally buy a junkyard car from copart.com for like cheap as balls and rob the transmission from that.
OR
get a new one for $1800 https://conceptzperformance.com/nissan-oem-32010-cd00a-32010-cd009-manual-transmission-nissan-350z-03-06-z33_p_2887.php and not deal with any wonders.
Thanks guys. The search begins
Kylepaschke
05-13-2016, 11:52 AM
http://s32.postimg.org/5w2kxocw5/IMG_0973.jpg
http://s32.postimg.org/z1ezbxnwl/IMG_0966.jpg
Last night was a good night.
Kylepaschke
05-13-2016, 12:06 PM
http://loj-conversions-llc.myshopify.com/collections/nissan-350z-2003-2008/products/copy-of-350z-lsx-swap-transmission-mount
Slight solution for the speed sensor. Personally, an app on my phone is better for me than this kit- but just wanted to show you guys what Sylas had found
Kylepaschke
05-13-2016, 12:11 PM
OEM 240sx is 4 pulses per revolution
roninwon
05-13-2016, 01:25 PM
Is that the mid mount or rear?
TheRealSy90
05-13-2016, 01:41 PM
I think that a Dakota signal converter might still be required for the gps speedometer, but if not that's a good thing.
RickS14
05-13-2016, 02:21 PM
Ending in cd00A is now the revised part number for the 009.
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Joobie
05-13-2016, 07:39 PM
I know this is a CD009/CD00A thread, but I feel like we should bring up the difference in transmission models. Everyone seems to shy away from the earlier versions just because of the number on the side.
I'm personally using a CD001 transmission out of a v35 Skyline that has been upgraded with the CD009 synchros and throwout fork/pivot. Managed to get it cheap because of the number written on the side. The donor car had 60,000kms (40,000miles) when it was written off, and the internals look brand new (I was informed that the gearbox was rebuilt with the update kit not long before the car was crashed).
From what I can tell, the biggest issue with the earlier versions has to be the weaker throwout fork and longer pivot flexing, allowing the synchros to wear prematurely. That and people not knowing how to drive a manual.
Difference between throwout pivots:
New:
https://conceptzperformance.com/items/2318/medium/3.JPG
Old:
https://conceptzperformance.com/items/2478/medium/1.JPG
I can't find images of the difference between the forks, but from what I have read, the earlier ones are weaker.
2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Gears not listed use a single cone synchroniser.
IIRC almost all of the transmissions made by Nissan prior to '99 used single cone sync rings almost exclusively. So as far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't be an issue running an earlier model 6 speed in your s-chassis as long as you use the upgraded throwout kit.
Please make note that the Synchroniser rings are generally a brass item that is made to wear. They aren't meant to be smashed into gear, they work like a clutch plate to lock the gears onto the shafts slowly, preventing damage elsewhere. They are going to wear out eventually with each gear change. This would mean that a city driven manual box with 50,000miles would probably be in worse condition than a highway driven box with 80,000miles.
TL;DR, if you want to drive like you're in the Fast and Furious, don't bloody whinge that your gears are grinding, buy a dog box instead. I hear Jericho's are cheap ;)
MattTenFour
06-13-2016, 04:15 AM
I'm glad that someone finally compiled all of this information into one thread! I'm in the process of doing a CD009 swap using the Collins adapter. Keep the information coming!
corby_baby
06-13-2016, 08:48 AM
add to main post
http://www.autotechmotoring.com/products/transmission/transmission-adapter-plates/
jerry_beans
06-14-2016, 07:25 PM
Don't mean to thread jack, but does anyone out there have a spare oil gutter for a cd009(part number 32107-cd400)? They're discontinued and I misplaced mine!
This is what it looks like:
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/9E7C6499-1B51-4410-AFE7-4F2E35734F88_zpsogbatbrg.jpg (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/9E7C6499-1B51-4410-AFE7-4F2E35734F88_zpsogbatbrg.jpg.html)
TheRealSy90
06-16-2016, 09:39 PM
Man I threw one of those away because I had no idea what it was or where it came from haha.
I've always been under the impression that you could not install a cd009 synchro set on an older model cd001-cd008 transmissions?
jerry_beans
06-17-2016, 10:00 AM
Man I threw one of those away because I had no idea what it was or where it came from haha.
No way!! Jesse streeter is actually helping me out! They're still available in Japan but it's gonna take a month or so to get here! Thank you all that sent me links and info!
So this is something I was waiting for! I got the email last night and purchased the shifter with the cross member. I had originally ordered the maverick motorsports crossmember, but decided to wait for this one. I'll post screenshots from the email gktech sent last night.
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/AE6590C7-FB17-4D1C-BF8F-5547527A3CB1_zpshtcspqwr.png (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/AE6590C7-FB17-4D1C-BF8F-5547527A3CB1_zpshtcspqwr.png.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/56B2D299-89A4-457F-B855-BA27D9030B1E_zpsorjfhoks.png (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/56B2D299-89A4-457F-B855-BA27D9030B1E_zpsorjfhoks.png.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/208973B3-C49E-4219-9585-3BBF9F27036A_zpsadhlspyt.png (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/208973B3-C49E-4219-9585-3BBF9F27036A_zpsadhlspyt.png.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/C9B2A29D-2F74-4DDF-825D-359948ADD3D5_zpsrntg8ws7.png (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/C9B2A29D-2F74-4DDF-825D-359948ADD3D5_zpsrntg8ws7.png.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/AEB4E79F-F65A-4E55-B539-BBDEB81D2BA3_zpswp8ggw8g.png (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/AEB4E79F-F65A-4E55-B539-BBDEB81D2BA3_zpswp8ggw8g.png.html)
Links in email:
Here is a video showing the shifter out of a car showing how tight everything is: https://www.instagram.com/p/BFIfc6QHev3/
http://gktech.us7.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3788e7e5a800fcf4227279958&id=5a8bdf0ed5&e=49bd183cbb
http://www.gktech.com/index.php/z33-350z-gearbox-shifter-relocation-setup.html
http://www.gktech.com/index.php/z33-350z-gearbox-cross-member-for-s13-s14-20-off-pre-buy-price-eta-early-july.html
RickS14
06-17-2016, 10:31 AM
Place my order today ^
simmode1
06-17-2016, 11:28 AM
Lawd... GKTech about to make me cry
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/974/clap.gif
TheRealSy90
06-17-2016, 12:29 PM
Yep I was just about to post up about the GkTech email haha! Since I already have the Mazworx crossmember with my bellhousing kit I'll just keep that one.
I'm going to order the GkTech Shifter, solid trans mount, Upgraded clutch pivot ball since the Mazworx bellhousing uses the Sr fork and pivot, and might throw in the GK billet shift knob too.
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Yellow4g63
06-17-2016, 02:58 PM
Ordered mine last night.
Nissansota240
07-14-2016, 03:12 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Intellitronix/556/S9020/10002/-1?CAWELAID=230006180011664979&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15769068431&CATCI=pla-190704188231&gclid=CLLJhpji1cwCFQeTfgodt2EDcA
Does anyone think this gps converter would work instead of the Dakota.
Anyone try to run this?
Looking to do a GPS sensor to my 95 S14 Stock Cluster?
jerry_beans
07-14-2016, 04:22 PM
A buddy and I were planning on running one from Amazon!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s_ss_i_0_6?k=gps+speedometer&sprefix=gps+sp
TheRealSy90
07-14-2016, 04:48 PM
Just to post some more info in here, those of you using the Mazworx bellhousing kit MUST either change the pilot bushing in the crankshaft to the revised and shorter Nissan needle bearing, or cut the copper bushing shorter by 1/8". If not the transmission input shaft will bottom out in the crank shaft and potentially damage thrust bearings etc, even after trimming the input shaft stub in accordance with the kit instructions.
Also, apparently the Tomei stroker cranks require the pilot to be trimmed even further than 1/8" as the crank is not machined out as deep as an oem crankshaft. Meaning the needle pilot can't be used as it cant be trimmed.
As far as I know nobody has tried it with a BC stroker crankshaft yet.
Regarding clutches, the Mazworks bellhousing was built around a Comp triple plate clutch just to make sure that it should fit any clutch option you could possible have lol.
roninwon
07-14-2016, 04:53 PM
This gps signal converter needs no additional hardware. That means no Dakota box.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/izl-s9020?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-intellitronix-corp&gclid=CJDyqK-F9M0CFQYuaQodOfQD-g
Nissansota240
07-14-2016, 10:53 PM
This gps signal converter needs no additional hardware. That means no Dakota box.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/izl-s9020?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-intellitronix-corp&gclid=CJDyqK-F9M0CFQYuaQodOfQD-g
Have you personally gotten this to work? How did you wire it? I'm under the impression that the s14 requires two signals to work
2muchboost
07-15-2016, 09:41 AM
So I have searched high and low and have not come up with a clear answer. I know the CD009 can handle some good power but what is the "threshold" for it? I have seen them behind 1krwhp 350z in one video, behind an LSx in another, behind an 2J in another but again no clear indication to the sweet spot before it grenades.
roninwon
07-15-2016, 10:00 AM
That must mean there is no threshold. These transmissions are infinite in power.
Nissansota240
07-15-2016, 03:14 PM
Have you personally gotten this to work? How did you wire it? I'm under the impression that the s14 requires two signals to work
UPDATE:
Purchased this along with a Dakota Digital SGI-5 to convert the 8,000 down to a 2,000 Pulse.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/izl-s9020
https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/izl-s9020_ml.jpg
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dak-sgi-5e
https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/dak-sgi-5e_ml.jpg
Will update when wired in and if it works.
roninwon
07-16-2016, 11:24 AM
UPDATE:
Purchased this along with a Dakota Digital SGI-5 to convert the 8,000 down to a 2,000 Pulse.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/izl-s9020
https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/izl-s9020_ml.jpg
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dak-sgi-5e
https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/dak-sgi-5e_ml.jpg
Will update when wired in and if it works.
Awesome news. You should include a full write up so lazy people like me don't have to spend all day researching it.
In other news Jason @ cbfperformance is doing a 50 order group buy on his rear mount shifter for $185. Let's support this American business and buy quality parts.
roninwon
07-16-2016, 01:26 PM
Here's the group buy link
http://www.cbfperformance.net/store#!/Group-Buy-Billet-CD009-Rear-Mount-Shifter/p/67349541/category=19722030
Nismoboy1992
07-17-2016, 09:29 AM
Hey guys, wondering if you have some insight on this. I am currently doing this 350z trans swap on my ka-t. I literally got everything in and then the starter doesnt fit... I am using the autotech motoring ka to 350z trans adapter plate. The starter hits up against the 350z bellhousing... I took apart a ka starter and used the starter gear as reference and it looked like a whole section of the bellhousing needed to be cut out! idk if the other adapter plates have this problem. The autotech motoring website didn't say anything about it.
roninwon
07-17-2016, 10:26 AM
From what I heard you're suppose to notch the starter with a grinder or dremel
Nismoboy1992
07-17-2016, 10:39 AM
From what I heard you're suppose to notch the starter with a grinder or dremel
Do you know which part of the starter to notch? If I can notch the starter, I'd much much much rather do that. I sure as hell do not want to pull this transmission back out lol.
EDacIouSX
07-17-2016, 11:19 AM
Pretty awesome thread, great amount of information here. Thanks to everyone that contributed!
S-Verteen
07-18-2016, 11:54 AM
Nismoboy92 for my kat cd swap with the Collins adapter I've found clearance on the starter itself isn't sufficient. This lead to me opening the housing where the cone hits 3/4 to 1".
TheRealSy90
07-18-2016, 12:40 PM
I'm personally using a CD001 transmission out of a v35 Skyline that has been upgraded with the CD009 synchros and throwout fork/pivot. Managed to get it cheap because of the number written on the side. The donor car had 60,000kms (40,000miles) when it was written off, and the internals look brand new (I was informed that the gearbox was rebuilt with the update kit not long before the car was crashed).
You cannot install a CD009 synchro set into a non CD009 transmission. It does not fit. I don't know what this "update kit" is that you're talking about but that trans was most likely rebuilt with the regular synchro set it came with. I asked the owner at Extreme Auto Concepts in Phoenix about this and they specialize in 350z's, he said he tried it before and the parts just won't work.
roninwon
07-21-2016, 10:07 AM
Alright guys. Talked to Jason over at cbfperformance today and there is still 44 rear mount shifters available for $185. Let's help out a small business and buy quality American parts!
Currently on sale for a group buy at $185
http://www.cbfperformance.net/store#!/Group-Buy-Billet-CD009-Rear-Mount-Shifter/p/67349541/category=19722030
TheRealSy90
07-21-2016, 10:11 AM
So anybody have a working speedo yet with the cd009 swap? I'm debating over which route to take on this.
I should be able to run a front abs knuckle sensor to get a speed signal from it.
Also LOJ offers a speed sensor kit that goes on the front yoke of the driveshaft, however at $300 it's a bit pricey.
This brings the question, better to pull speed from the rear/driven wheels or from the front wheels?
In the grand scheme it's best to have BOTH so that you can take advantage of traction control if your ecu supports it...
I'm leaning towards the driven wheels since that's how a regular s13 speed signal is pulled... But that's the most expensive route too.
brndck
07-21-2016, 10:17 AM
/\/\/\/\ I plan on using this, but I have a stack cluster, may or may not work with oem
http://www.autometer.com/gps-ground-speed-module-antenna-10hz-pulse-output.html
Nissansota240
07-21-2016, 10:43 AM
I'm attempting to use what I posted in the last page, hopefully wiring it up this weekend. Otherwise if I don't have time, at some point after SSC I'll get it figured out.
Joobie610
07-21-2016, 02:16 PM
You cannot install a CD009 synchro set into a non CD009 transmission. It does not fit. I don't know what this "update kit" is that you're talking about but that trans was most likely rebuilt with the regular synchro set it came with. I asked the owner at Extreme Auto Concepts in Phoenix about this and they specialize in 350z's, he said he tried it before and the parts just won't work.
Like I said, I was informed that it was rebuilt this way, i didn't do the work or have it done. I would imagine that was the explanation given to the previous owner by whoever rebuilt it.
If someone else has tried it and it doesn't work, educated guess would be the cd001 rebuild kit has revised parts that mimic the Cd009 kit, strengthening it to withstand the same/similar punishment.
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TheRealSy90
07-21-2016, 04:24 PM
Haha anyways good luck with that 001.
Looking forward to seeing who gets their speedo's working.
Supposedly the AEM Infinity ecu might be able to convert a speed signal thus eliminating the need for the Dakotah converter, but I haven't figured this out yet for sure as I'm waiting for mine to come in.
SidewayzAsFck
07-22-2016, 05:41 AM
So I am picking up a cd009 this week for my sr20det build. After doing some looking around I am between the CBF performance shifter bracket and the gktech unit + trans mount. Anyone able to give some feed back on the two units (from personal use)? I just want I make sure that both units actually place the shifter in the correct location for a s14 chassis as stated by the manifacturers. I also have the autotech adaptor plate and a s13 sr20det
roninwon
07-22-2016, 08:16 AM
So I am picking up a cd009 this week for my sr20det build. After doing some looking around I am between the CBF performance shifter bracket and the gktech unit + trans mount. Anyone able to give some feed back on the two units (from personal use)? I just want I make sure that both units actually place the shifter in the correct location for a s14 chassis as stated by the manifacturers. I also have the autotech adaptor plate and a s13 sr20det
Several people have bought cbfperformance rear mount shifter and it fits perfectly in s chassis. The gktech one was built specifically for s chassis. I'm going with CBF cause it looks beefy compared to the gk one.
I also have the xcessive trans mount and i am very happy with the quality
Kylepaschke
07-22-2016, 08:37 AM
I am using the CBF shifter and it works out really well. Its also 100% made in America so I personally value that. I also have had a great experience dealing with Jason, the owner of CBF; throughout the entire process
Yellow4g63
07-22-2016, 09:57 AM
I got the gtech unit. It's at the post office tho need to go fetch it soon.
Nissansota240
08-01-2016, 10:40 AM
Haha anyways good luck with that 001.
Looking forward to seeing who gets their speedo's working.
Supposedly the AEM Infinity ecu might be able to convert a speed signal thus eliminating the need for the Dakotah converter, but I haven't figured this out yet for sure as I'm waiting for mine to come in.
Got a perfectly working speedo, will do a lil write up later this week .
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TheRealSy90
08-01-2016, 11:22 AM
Got the Gktech shifter myself. Really cool piece.
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EnvisionMore
08-01-2016, 12:01 PM
Any more info on shifter relocation kits using a 2J/1J engine? Not many people out there running the setup
RickS14
08-01-2016, 12:06 PM
It's gonna be off. But I think it if you cut the shifter and bend it forward you could get it in stock location under the boot trim and centered. Check out the 2jz swap thread someone has posted pics already. As fas as the gktech one goes.
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TheRealSy90
08-01-2016, 12:08 PM
CBF has shifters that work for 1j/2j Cd setups that are further forward than the Sr/Cd shifter.
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Freddy
08-01-2016, 12:09 PM
Any more info on shifter relocation kits using a 2J/1J engine? Not many people out there running the setup
Check out Serial Nine pretty sure they once
How much do CD009 got for states side?
Nissansota240
08-01-2016, 01:41 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160801/0ac8e7221247e4af62129e6dec841e2c.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160801/043b273d0479675012673f5cbc27f7e1.jpg
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RickS14
08-01-2016, 01:57 PM
$450.00 for the shifter they offer.
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RickS14
08-01-2016, 02:00 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160801/0ac8e7221247e4af62129e6dec841e2c.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160801/043b273d0479675012673f5cbc27f7e1.jpg
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Wonder if you can just modify and cut the shifter to make it sit forward.
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TheRealSy90
08-01-2016, 02:28 PM
Better off with the CBF shifter for a Jz setup they have two different ones that are both further forward than the Gktech.
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RickS14
08-01-2016, 03:03 PM
I would like the input on the cbf.wonder how the throws feel also from left to right. Seems like gktech took a while to release what they offer because they did a fair amount of real world use. Plus the unit looks pretty solid.cbf doesn't seem to have any lower support like serial nine and gktech shifters do. I'm a doing a 2j s14. I'm really thinking about keeping my gktech and just modify the shifter.
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Mister.E
08-01-2016, 03:26 PM
Serial N9ne has the most versatile shifter option out there. Multiple configurations in one unit.
TheRealSy90
08-01-2016, 04:42 PM
Yeah the Serial 9 shifter reminds me a lot of the K-Tuned D series shifter I had on my old ef civic. Adjustable in many positions. Was a rad piece.
MattTenFour
08-01-2016, 05:29 PM
I bolted my Collins adapter to the SR this weekend and I'm a little confused about something. Collins instructions say to grind down the starter to allow clearance for the transmission housing. I've seen pictures of other people's swaps and I'm familiar with what is required. I was able to bolt my starter up without any modifications and it appears that it will work just fine. I shared some pictures with a buddy that has an older Collins adapter and its clear that the new plate is designed differently. Has anyone else used one of the recently released Collins SR to CD009 adapters that can confirm if that is correct? Collins wont reply to my emails or texts.
TheRealSy90
08-01-2016, 06:18 PM
Seems like he revised the plate so that you wouldn't have to modify it. Isn't that a good thing?
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MattTenFour
08-02-2016, 01:36 AM
Absolutely. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. The instructions that he provided did not reflect any changes to the design and said you have to grind down a portion of the starter. Just trying to iron out the details while the engine and transmission are out of the car and everything is still easy to get to.
Kylepaschke
08-02-2016, 09:08 AM
I would like the input on the cbf.wonder how the throws feel also from left to right. Seems like gktech took a while to release what they offer because they did a fair amount of real world use. Plus the unit looks pretty solid.cbf doesn't seem to have any lower support like serial nine and gktech shifters do. I'm a doing a 2j s14. I'm really thinking about keeping my gktech and just modify the shifter.
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Its very tight left to right however I haven't driven my car yet :(
My friend Landon said his was very tight left to right too but once he started driving it really acts normal.
Ill report back once my car is running
RickS14
08-02-2016, 09:29 AM
Its very tight left to right however I haven't driven my car yet :(
My friend Landon said his was very tight left to right too but once he started driving it really acts normal.
Ill report back once my car is running
Thanks.
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Johannes
08-02-2016, 01:26 PM
It's gonna be off. But I think it if you cut the shifter and bend it forward you could get it in stock location under the boot trim and centered. Check out the 2jz swap thread someone has posted pics already. As fas as the gktech one goes.
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It seems like Nissansota is running thicker JZ-CD adapters than us though. Our Collins adapter is a bit thinner than that and would move the shifter forward. Might still be a tad bit long.
TheRealSy90
08-02-2016, 02:36 PM
But his adapter also uses a different bellhousing than the Collins adapter so without a measurement of overall length to compare to its difficult.
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Nissansota240
08-02-2016, 09:30 PM
Here's the measurements on my DL adapter I'm running
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160803/3e584a7d2a8ea45e624f3be7a0ce1a50.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160803/5a71b545bd397c63232c261ae4313e04.jpg
And the length from the face of the bell housing to the bolt holes for the shifter
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160803/cb2cc9c4a170e4afb3b7fca0669c62a8.jpg
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RickS14
08-02-2016, 09:47 PM
Thank you for that.
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Johannes
08-17-2016, 07:07 PM
Just placed an order from a group buy going on @ cbf performance. This shifter is adjustable fore & aft as well as side to side so it fits many application. Orig price is $350. Group buy is $185.
My setup is a 2J ->CD009 with Collins adapter.
Here's the link to his ig page:
https://www.instagram.com/cbfperformance/
Link to group buy:
http://www.cbfperformance.net/store#!/Group-Buy-Billet-CD009-Rear-Mount-Shifter/p/67349541/category=19722030
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2muchboost
08-17-2016, 11:19 PM
Almost certain this will work for the LSX setup but can anyone confirm before I place an order?
rbs14kouki
08-18-2016, 05:51 AM
We just did a cd009 to rb25 in a r32 gts
Collins plate was ruff and no instruction at all . Machined down the bellhousing to accept the plate
Put every thing on the engin to figure out that the starter doesnt fit . Bellhousing need more grinding
With the rb25 kit . The transmission is clocked like 4 or 5 degre (dont know if its an accident by collins) so shifter is tilting toward the driver(rhd) abit
We installed 2 shifter . Firstly the serial nine
We liked it because we could fine tuned our shifter position with our tilted problem ... but shift throw is super short and super easy to miss 3rd or 4th for other gears ...
Second shifter and the one that is staying in GkTech
Shifts are precised and not to short ... realy what i was looking for . Reverse lock out that work 100%
Sit abit more back compare to serial 9 but were gona live with it since its a way better unit to our eyes
NorcalAP2
08-18-2016, 11:43 AM
Got a perfectly working speedo, will do a lil write up later this week .
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would love to hear how this was done if you used an AEM infinity ECU :)
RickS14
08-18-2016, 01:08 PM
The gktech is a nice piece I sold mine already because I want to keep oem interior. So I'm going with serial nine. Any one have experience with the cbf?
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TheRealSy90
08-18-2016, 03:02 PM
would love to hear how this was done if you used an AEM infinity ECU :)
Same here as I just bought an infinity myself. However I've heard it might be possible that the infinity can convert any speed signal internally and would make the dakota converter no longer needed.
roninwon
08-18-2016, 09:27 PM
The gktech is a nice piece I sold mine already because I want to keep oem interior. So I'm going with serial nine. Any one have experience with the cbf?
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I thought the gktech required no modifications to the interior. Is that wrong?
TheRealSy90
08-18-2016, 09:27 PM
I thought the gktech required no modifications to the interior. Is that wrong?
It doesn't. I believe he is running the trans behind a Jz or Ls though. Gktech is designed for Sr.
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RickS14
08-19-2016, 08:34 AM
Right a jz not sr with Collins plate on a s14. It could work but I want to keep it centered as possible and under oem shifter boot.
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Croustibat
08-19-2016, 09:20 AM
So I have searched high and low and have not come up with a clear answer. I know the CD009 can handle some good power but what is the "threshold" for it? I have seen them behind 1krwhp 350z in one video, behind an LSx in another, behind an 2J in another but again no clear indication to the sweet spot before it grenades.
Depends on what you do when you first hear wear signs.
I know of one, fitted to a 500+ Whp rb25 / ps13 . I think it started to whine a bit, after a couple of year of abuse as a pro drifting machine taking part in numerous european championships. It only needs new bearings.
If it can take that kind of abuse (it really IS abused), i cannot see a zilvian user destroy one. Unless it is not correctly installed.
Edit:
quick question here. I do not like plate adapters for various reasons, and am interested in the JWT kit. There is something i don't quite understand though. It requires an automatic bellhousing; but is it a Z33 auto bell housing, or a SR20 auto bellhousing ? Has anyone here installed one ?
Since i am using a CA18DET, i think i am getting in trouble here ...
japslapsilvia
08-19-2016, 09:52 AM
Edit:
quick question here. I do not like plate adapters for various reasons, and am interested in the JWT kit. There is something i don't quite understand though. It requires an automatic bellhousing; but is it a Z33 auto bell housing, or a SR20 auto bellhousing ? Has anyone here installed one ?
Since i am using a CA18DET, i think i am getting in trouble here ...
Auto Bellhousing from the motor you are adapting to, IE SR- SR Auto Housing. Are the bolt patterns the same for SR/CA?
Nissansota240
08-19-2016, 10:57 AM
Same here as I just bought an infinity myself. However I've heard it might be possible that the infinity can convert any speed signal internally and would make the dakota converter no longer needed.
I'll see what I can do, I'm super busy lately, might have some time next week.
TheRealSy90
08-19-2016, 11:07 AM
quick question here. I do not like plate adapters for various reasons, and am interested in the JWT kit. There is something i don't quite understand though. It requires an automatic bellhousing; but is it a Z33 auto bell housing, or a SR20 auto bellhousing ? Has anyone here installed one ?
Since i am using a CA18DET, i think i am getting in trouble here ...
It uses the auto bellhousing of the engine you have. Idk if they make a kit for the ca18 though.
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undant
08-19-2016, 08:52 PM
In to see if anyone can perfect the shifter setup when mated to a JZ motor. http://goo.gl/bL6MG5
jackal264
08-20-2016, 12:30 AM
In to see if anyone can perfect the shifter setup when mated to a JZ motor. http://goo.gl/bL6MG5
the serial nine cd999 shifter is what you are looking for.
i just picked one up myself. i'll snap a few pictures for you when i get a chance. but my buddy has been running one in his 700hp 2jz s14 for a bit now and its definitely the way to go for 2jz+cd into an s chassis. no cutting of the trans tunnel needed.
retains reverse lockout also.
i know they made a lot on their first production run and they are down to the last hand full already.
https://serialnine.com/contact-info
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13729006_10157196634725644_537022905756312182_n.jp g?oh=7c2fe4854c841e886a57d9d3d1695fae&oe=58493A7A
TheRealSy90
08-20-2016, 12:32 AM
CBF has a shifter that sits on the inspection plate if you really need it far forward.
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Johannes
08-20-2016, 11:09 AM
Everyone checkout my post a couple of posts earlier. Cbf is doing a group buy on any cd009 -> jz/ls/SR to an s-chassis. Pro series utilizes adjustable fore & aft as well as side to side.
Johannes
08-20-2016, 11:35 AM
Jason's pro series will be similar to the serialnine cd999 shifter setup, except it's a fraction of its cost. $185 group buy of 50 vs $450.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160820/d3f50378618281935cb1c381abe89918.jpg
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RickS14
08-20-2016, 12:54 PM
Jason's pro series will be similar to the serialnine cd999 shifter setup, except it's a fraction of its cost. $185 group buy of 50 vs $450.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160820/d3f50378618281935cb1c381abe89918.jpg
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Waiting to see how the final product will work out.
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rbs14kouki
08-20-2016, 08:06 PM
for a jz to cdxxx i would do the speedtek cut and weld bellhousing with the gktech shifter .... with that bellhousing mod you dont need to cut the tunnel ... check them out on Facebook
lsineon
08-20-2016, 08:43 PM
In to see if anyone can perfect the shifter setup when mated to a JZ motor.http://goo.gl/Y6aIPY
jackal264
08-21-2016, 03:22 AM
for a jz to cdxxx i would do the speedtek cut and weld bellhousing with the gktech shifter .... with that bellhousing mod you dont need to cut the tunnel ... check them out on Facebook
this looks super janky to me.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051694_1772638606359235_7509248252266088543_n.jp g?oh=8adb5b08fdedd91b8a88bd648e72b4be&oe=5853C555
the collins kit (the cut + middle plate) looks way better to me then this option. now if collins would get off his ass and make a plate compatible with the j3 housing we would all be golden. seems like everyone has a j3 housing kicking around but the j1 is far more rare.
TheRealSy90
08-21-2016, 10:35 AM
It's not janky though. The Speedtek kits work extremely well and there's a championship winner that's ran one for over a year now with 0 issues. Just because it doesn't look so pretty doesn't mean it's not functional.
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Croustibat
08-22-2016, 07:36 AM
Auto Bellhousing from the motor you are adapting to, IE SR- SR Auto Housing. Are the bolt patterns the same for SR/CA?
I think the gearbox side of the bellhousing is identical. Engine side is not. CA & SR are quite common here (s13 come stock with a CA, S14 with an SR) .
The flywheel is also different, as the SR has larger clutch area (i was told it can be installed using an S12 starter ).
I'll try to get some more infos. Thanks.
RickS14
08-29-2016, 09:34 AM
I have yet to install my cd Trans in my s14. Who is running the collinsplate and how much hammering was needed?
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t66-240
09-05-2016, 10:19 PM
this looks super janky to me.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051694_1772638606359235_7509248252266088543_n.jp g?oh=8adb5b08fdedd91b8a88bd648e72b4be&oe=5853C555
the collins kit (the cut + middle plate) looks way better to me then this option. now if collins would get off his ass and make a plate compatible with the j3 housing we would all be golden. seems like everyone has a j3 housing kicking around but the j1 is far more rare.
He does have one now. I think I got the second plate after the tester. The J3 is taller so the adapter is thinner requiring some notching of the J3 bell housing to clear the slave cylinder.
https://goo.gl/photos/DWWFEVzFQbRfs5Fe6
https://goo.gl/photos/hCYmMP48v6g2yEC18
https://goo.gl/photos/Ld74MvX2o3Pncyjp9
I'll update once I put it in. I'm using the collins motor/trans mounts too.
t66-240
09-10-2016, 11:20 AM
I just started my 2JZ VVTI / CD009 swap in my s13 using Collins new adapter and J3 bell housing. I think he said mine was the second J3 adapter after the test one. here some pics.
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ehhhregartless
09-18-2016, 09:19 AM
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Joobie610
09-19-2016, 05:26 AM
Food for thought?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160919/4fd833e78dfb907e192aeb3446588831.jpg
S15 spec gear needed.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160919/0c955dde0146b73fb04b039938bacb65.jpg
Again, an Australian company. Have bought most of the TAARKS branded parts that suit my needs and they're all top notch. Might be worth seeing what a 370 box goes for?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160919/fad72aa00afd1b6a3001b06f84ee771f.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160919/7b76b9e656b52f07e2463a9087449169.jpg
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brndck
09-19-2016, 06:56 AM
Rad to see taarks jumping in. All their products are top notch, and thoroughly sorted BEFORE release, unlike other companies who send you a part, then you have to send it back cuz it needs to revised or replaced.
Z34 Trans is comparable in price (in my experience) BUT I'm still wary of the internal hydraulic release bearing; I've read plenty of stories of them leaking badly. Sucks since you have to drop the Trans to change one out. I still have never heard of any advantage to using the internal one either.
TheRealSy90
09-19-2016, 07:24 AM
Food for thought?
S15 spec gear needed.
Some people figured out with the offset of the s15 6sp style flywheel, it's easier to get full spline engagement when using an adapter plate.
Z34 Trans is comparable in price (in my experience) BUT I'm still wary of the internal hydraulic release bearing; I've read plenty of stories of them leaking badly. Sucks since you have to drop the Trans to change one out. I still have never heard of any advantage to using the internal one either.
If you go with the Mazworx bellhousing, it retains the sr20 fork, pivot and bearing, even on concentric/internal slave transmissions. Good option if you want one of those trans.
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rbs14kouki
09-19-2016, 10:10 PM
What air gap (clutch to bearing) are you guys seting up your set-up !!! On our racecar with internal release bearing we have it set a 0.200inch would it be the same for a fork set-up
TheRealSy90
09-19-2016, 10:12 PM
With an OsGiken twin disc, they say to set it up with a 7-8mm play between the bearing and pressure fingers, to allow a bit of expansion room for when the clutch beds in.
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t66-240
09-26-2016, 11:36 AM
Here is where my trans sits with the Collins new adapter and his engine/trans mounts. For final placement it may go a half an inch or so back.
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It looks like the this is the best shifter for the 240. There is a group buy to get it down to $185.
http://cbfperformance.net/store#!/Group-Buy-Billet-CD009-Rear-Mount-Shifter-quantity-of-50/p/71416772/category=19722030
https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.ecwid.com/images/9493321/428587245.jpg
It will perfectly center the shift lever although it will still require some cutting.
I just started my 2JZ VVTI / CD009 swap in my s13 using Collins new adapter and J3 bell housing. I think he said mine was the second J3 adapter after the test one. here some pics.
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t66-240
09-27-2016, 10:15 AM
Here's where my trans sits with the new collins adapter, motor and trans mount.
It's about 1.5 inches from the firewall. I'll probably move it back another .75 to 1 inch back.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zWdgCkvhLRIril55G-70uwjMPENMmc0IxxZkWXU_ECPRCprnYXQFsLLX91h-thj03FXhXT5SHcWp3vn-OA4eDZzeVN3g0mHm9CsS_kRoEYOI6n8fd20kuk7kMzLp4Rvb84 l_Aq3lEcUNn7LG041hoz2EVM27htrcvh4kOABVlBPMj_oCuUvP UX-U40NmJzePxVcnR-TNKNJHCVCjW0m45AWf24I7rgCIH3CD4ZC0MU-A84Dcig98HRWdCh53jpUkQIMrwpc7sryovaXbaK8Yfx1DqjQwc jOJqfGgVfpH5E1kjnypZAbGH_P0mabpjOHLi0yq6r_WevuN3vl wa5Ra0VI5wh5m4gYwH4gTa_wIDOLwCLsWnPDXZCPc_NQG3DF6m xN8koqQxZpyuIvE2tBh2QjME9teLfd9TXnSiTSN2u29QE_mwsH p7QVH9bIy4vtwC13QvfPNUupJEO62bv9G4a6nYMncnAMM3Sr8V oO9j_ADcb4EnoR8Mg_6WcY047-UAuy5gR0vwkQTBtpxKybqDyGbdhWeiiQ_LUhRRxi5ZJh20X9KP q3dHykNkOZCcTKNw7FPvSitqD0bSAJjFIHcvgE_qMdvFKyUxYd Jdz5b0TdZbnUiTQ=w524-h931-no
rbs14kouki
09-27-2016, 10:39 AM
With an OsGiken twin disc, they say to set it up with a 7-8mm play between the bearing and pressure fingers, to allow a bit of expansion room for when the clutch beds in.
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We went with 0.300inch for the air gap . My good friwnd did this for two of the z33 swap he did and they work perfect
Yellow4g63
09-27-2016, 02:07 PM
Here's where my trans sits with the new collins adapter, motor and trans mount.
It's about 1.5 inches from the firewall. I'll probably move it back another .75 to 1 inch back.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rrJphJHiegxdx5bQTqR-WD1wFKWgqZbb14NX5H8DSMZu7sXLJfXTDu-QHq3kDuH5-NM4fMsFW0bgTlEIgyBlrp7iwJl8KJjr-UfFaWbZbkYY4TtWHii3WkzQB4bAfibFzJFDWTZVZc9WVoS4kba invoRwqzuHCthkvUKKrxmlAaFJ5hImbMjYMUj7Kzfa7mRHh1wo D5LIWNLxYLw2O1vsaiuJ6tP2tFz8dwO2g0QQhI2cNRFk3yszlK KSW8-V-nIH9CxWWRCDWyU6LEbXViRHHGxe14eXt0Fv6bilk9T_W75oJdu Yw89adoQPxwN6sjXee85axhUtPKZbLpbVky7Q4M5tRlkJLJW1s MYCzRFluZx-cGmVfoaa3FSeG1SKv5bEJHkHAlg0H8qtQDiDOxNEp28wNRDY9R 5r4ep4N9uRPAgSmMbmFCdlny59OQpYhiDBAmBrF9MYluZG1PH5 5K2UnOzGUpXOauGzHjmeoY0uLdwHifMYviu15eBEyg-nNmiYZId5vOwCr4VbrXKr0j6UMulqqmyU--xra6_M3gqrsdGY74alMwoKt6Z_Q7dN4HyH4odSY3TKLusYgdw0 k2SVy_QB-I88B6fCCcA2hYEfBCAc6wuwg=w508-h903-no
No pic, might want to try photobucket to host your pic.
t66-240
09-27-2016, 02:34 PM
hmm. strange I can see it. I'll try.
Thanks!
hmm. strange I can see it. I'll try.
Thanks!
Well if you can see it.
I guess we will just all come to your house.
Haha. Jfwy
t66-240
09-27-2016, 02:58 PM
Well if you can see it.
I guess we will just all come to your house.
Haha. Jfwy
Can you see it now? I'm using google photo from my cloud back up. Didn't know I had to move it to a shared album first :facepalm:
Nissansota240
09-27-2016, 03:35 PM
Can you see it now? I'm using google photo from my cloud back up. Didn't know I had to move it to a shared album first :facepalm:
Looks about the same location as mine, don't get a gktech relocation, it wont work, Either a CBF or a Serial 9 shifter should do the trick.
I'll be swapping from the gk one and going with the CBF this winter.
TheRealSy90
09-27-2016, 04:47 PM
Looks about the same location as mine, don't get a gktech relocation, it wont work.
GkTech shifter works fine for mine and many other people's swaps. Both with the mazworx housing and with adapter plates.
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t66-240
09-27-2016, 05:47 PM
GkTech shifter works fine for mine and many other people's swaps. Both with the mazworx housing and with adapter plates.
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Depends on the swap. with the 4 cylinder (KA, SR's) the engine doesn't sit as far back so many of these adapters work without cutting.
With in a inline 6 (2J, RB) space upfront is at a premium for cooling fans so the motors are typically sit much further back than with a 4cyl.
So while some of these shifters may locate the shifter near the stock location, you will still have to cut for the tower that comes out of the trans.
the only exception I've see with CBF's mid-mount set up which he discontinued due to high cost... around $650.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/Mike_S_Lee/cbf%20midmount_zpss7unra27.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/Mike_S_Lee/media/cbf%20midmount_zpss7unra27.jpg.html)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/Mike_S_Lee/midmount%20comment_zpszo4i2fti.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/Mike_S_Lee/media/midmount%20comment_zpszo4i2fti.jpg.html)
The pro-series CBF that is currently being tested may not require cutting as he has lowered the tower height. This may allow the tower portion of the shifter to sit under the trans tunnel and only have the shift lever stick out above. This is still being tested and about 2-3 months from production.
FWIW.
TheRealSy90
09-27-2016, 06:56 PM
Okay well the gktech was never advertised to be used with straight six engines anyways. And CBF has another shifter that goes on the inspection plate of the trans that would probably work better anyways.
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t66-240
09-27-2016, 07:01 PM
Unfortunately not. see pic below. it's way too far forward for the s13/s14.
Okay well the gktech was never advertised to be used with straight six engines anyways. And CBF has another shifter that goes on the inspection plate of the trans that would probably work better anyways.
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Here's where my trans sits with the new collins adapter, motor and trans mount.
It's about 1.5 inches from the firewall. I'll probably move it back another .75 to 1 inch back.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zWdgCkvhLRIril55G-70uwjMPENMmc0IxxZkWXU_ECPRCprnYXQFsLLX91h-thj03FXhXT5SHcWp3vn-OA4eDZzeVN3g0mHm9CsS_kRoEYOI6n8fd20kuk7kMzLp4Rvb84 l_Aq3lEcUNn7LG041hoz2EVM27htrcvh4kOABVlBPMj_oCuUvP UX-U40NmJzePxVcnR-TNKNJHCVCjW0m45AWf24I7rgCIH3CD4ZC0MU-A84Dcig98HRWdCh53jpUkQIMrwpc7sryovaXbaK8Yfx1DqjQwc jOJqfGgVfpH5E1kjnypZAbGH_P0mabpjOHLi0yq6r_WevuN3vl wa5Ra0VI5wh5m4gYwH4gTa_wIDOLwCLsWnPDXZCPc_NQG3DF6m xN8koqQxZpyuIvE2tBh2QjME9teLfd9TXnSiTSN2u29QE_mwsH p7QVH9bIy4vtwC13QvfPNUupJEO62bv9G4a6nYMncnAMM3Sr8V oO9j_ADcb4EnoR8Mg_6WcY047-UAuy5gR0vwkQTBtpxKybqDyGbdhWeiiQ_LUhRRxi5ZJh20X9KP q3dHykNkOZCcTKNw7FPvSitqD0bSAJjFIHcvgE_qMdvFKyUxYd Jdz5b0TdZbnUiTQ=w524-h931-no
TheRealSy90
09-27-2016, 07:17 PM
That Picture hasn't worked for me this whole time so might be why it went over my head lol.
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Tearlessj
09-28-2016, 12:49 AM
That Picture hasn't worked for me this whole time so might be why it went over my head lol.
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Is this the picture you can't see?
http://imgur.com/M2SpGyZ
What flywheel/clutch are you running t66-240? I don't want to pay what they're asking for the 350 clutch flywheel.
t66-240
09-28-2016, 02:34 AM
Is this the picture you can't see?
http://imgur.com/M2SpGyZ
What flywheel/clutch are you running t66-240? I don't want to pay what they're asking for the 350 clutch flywheel.
Collins custom flywheel and a 350z disk and plate. :)
Nissansota240
09-28-2016, 07:18 AM
Okay well the gktech was never advertised to be used with straight six engines anyways. And CBF has another shifter that goes on the inspection plate of the trans that would probably work better anyways.
They may not advertise it as that but it is a z33 shifter, but that's why I said if anyone is running a I6 engine paired to a z33 trans to maybe choose a different shifter over gktech. Not because of quality or anything, just configuration. the amount of cutting to get it to fit, then with the shifter in reverse it almost hits the center counsol on the s14, granted I have my JZ pushed as far back as possible though. If you are not running interior I guess its not the end of the world for the location, but for me, I want to have the plastic bezel and shift boot placed back on and to have a somewhat OEM look.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160901_202649_RichtoneHDR_zpsywzzoajk.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160901_202649_RichtoneHDR_zpsywzzoajk.jpg.html)
Sorry for how terrible these photos where, but I only snapped them quick during the haste of trying to finish the car before an event.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160622_204428_RichtoneHDR_zpsnolbwcgd.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160622_204428_RichtoneHDR_zpsnolbwcgd.jpg.html)
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160725_204641_zps0hclygga.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160725_204641_zps0hclygga.jpg.html)
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160725_214810_zpszspcwbpq.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/20160725_214810_zpszspcwbpq.jpg.html)
RickS14
09-28-2016, 10:24 AM
Any body running Collins plate how much hammering was needed is it the same as a t56 ls1 combo?
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fatduece
09-28-2016, 03:31 PM
What air gap (clutch to bearing) are you guys seting up your set-up !!! On our racecar with internal release bearing we have it set a 0.200inch would it be the same for a fork set-up
With an OsGiken twin disc, they say to set it up with a 7-8mm play between the bearing and pressure fingers, to allow a bit of expansion room for when the clutch beds in.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Could you guys explain how you make the adjustment? The Tob sleeve comes in different sizes. I thought all you need is the correct SLEEVE, which OSgiken provides:confused:.
TheRealSy90
09-28-2016, 06:36 PM
Could you guys explain how you make the adjustment? The Tob sleeve comes in different sizes. I thought all you need is the correct SLEEVE, which OSgiken provides:confused:.
That's exactly it, you order specific sleeves to set the depth of the throw out bearing.
And if you need a finer adjustment there's a place in the U.K. Called RB Motorsport that has thin spacers that press on the sleeve behind the bearing. But probably not necessary unless you're very particular.
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Anyone here running and driving with a ka24? Just finished building my motor and was looking to do the z32 swap but now this is catching my eye to do. Should work out cheaper than sourcing a TTz32 manual. Can easily find a wrecked 350z-g35 down here for under 600.
Without including tranny I should be under 1k to just bolt it up right?
Colin Adapter + Clutch release bearing - 394
Gtech cross member(use my nismo tranny mount) and shifter adapter - 277
Steel drive Shaft -300 to 350.
Somone post a write up getting there speedo working with gps signal and dakota box which is around 180 but its that necessary.
hanzbrady
09-29-2016, 06:35 AM
Anyone here running and driving with a ka24? Just finished building my motor and was looking to do the z32 swap but now this is catching my eye to do. Should work out cheaper than sourcing a TTz32 manual. Can easily find a wrecked 350z-g35 down here for under 600.
Without including tranny I should be under 1k to just bolt it up right?
Colin Adapter + Clutch release bearing - 394
Gtech cross member(use my nismo tranny mount) and shifter adapter - 277
Steel drive Shaft -300 to 350.
Somone post a write up getting there speedo working with gps signal and dakota box which is around 180 but its that necessary.
TT and non TT Z32 trannys are the same, and a non TT tranny goes for about $250, just food for thought before you bury yourself in some debt
Not around here, most sell them local in the scene for 500-800 and if you look on
car-part.com the lowest ive seen is 300 and high as 700 but all the places are 200 miles away. I can find a cd009 60k tranny 10 miles aawy for 500-600 bucks all day.
I think 1.5k for everything swapped isnt a bad deal. Then in a few years or so when I swap out the ka and do a proper swap all I have to do is get the adapter and new shifter if its sits too far back.
fatduece
09-29-2016, 08:53 PM
That's exactly it, you order specific sleeves to set the depth of the throw out bearing.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying!
rbs14kouki
10-05-2016, 01:15 PM
Gktech z33 shifter with a Autotech Motoring sr to vq plate (bellhousing machined down .500in)
https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14409831_10155312878569616_8036830776949230003_o.j pg
last week i did a sr to vq swap with the Autotech plate i had laying around on my friend s14 .
https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14362468_10155271533274616_8447083105437179466_o.j pg
here are the spec i took of the transmission (http://www.eurocarparts.com/car-transmission) and engin to calculate the air gap that was needed in between is clutch and bearing
target was .300in !!! (I know on my paper i used .200 ! i though it was the same spec as an internal release bearing like on our formula d drift car... i was abit off . .300 is perfect)
we had to put a spacer or .400in inbetween the bearing and the carrier ... but from doing this the carrier we had wasnt long enought and the bearing had no more surface to seat properly .
to correct this situation we took the z33 carrier welded it back to back to our sr 24mm carrier ... cut away the portion where the fork attaches .
it looked like this
https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14500748_10155306382214616_1458075442459893925_o.j pg
we machined everithing back to spec :
- outside diam. 40mm
- Inside diam. we left the sr carrier section un-toutch but the z33 portion we welded on had to be machined just abit loosser (from the weld line to the extremity) . that way it wasnt grabing on the shaft where it slides
slip on spacer was .400in thick (inner diam. 40.10mm) ... that way it can slip on without pressing it in for mantenance or to changed the set-up later on .
Then re-installed the bearing
Final air gap 0.290in perfect clutch engagement
Yellow4g63
10-05-2016, 08:06 PM
Thanks for the pic. That's the setup I have right now.
rbs14kouki
10-05-2016, 09:54 PM
For anyone info . I found these part number and spec after i did my last transmissiom swap
Nissan oem carrier part# and mm
12mm : 30501-A3800
14mm : 30501-N1601
16mm : 30501-U0200
18mm 30501-S0200 (Z33)
22mm : 30501-S0160 (Z32)
24mm : 30501-K0404 (S13/S14)
26mm : 30501-K0510 (D21 Frontier / Xterra)
28mm : 30501-N1600 (D22 Frontier / Z31 Turbo) [07/83 - 09/86]
32mm : 30501-U8584 (D40)
t66-240
10-06-2016, 02:40 PM
Hey Guys,
It looks like the new AEM GPS speedo will be perfect for our cars.
http://www.aemelectronics.com/?q=products/gauges/digital-gauges/X-Series/GPSspeed
- It displays speed, heading and altitude.
- It has a peak hold feature
- it has a fast refresh (10 samples/second)
- Integrates with their ECU's to do track mapping.
- It has a VSS output of 4.444 HZ/MPH which translates to 16k pulses per mile (no converter needed) that our cars use. (someone check my math) so our factory speedo will work too. :hsdance:
At $154 retail it's a really cost effective solution too!
I'm still working on my swap, so it will be while before I try it. If anyone beats me to it let us know how it works.
roninwon
10-06-2016, 02:49 PM
Only thing is more than likely people want the readout from the oem cluster.
t66-240
10-06-2016, 02:54 PM
Only thing is more than likely people want the readout from the oem cluster.
.
- It has a VSS output of 4.444 HZ/MPH which translates to 16k pulses per mile (no converter needed) that our cars use. (someone check my math) so our factory speedo will work too. :hsdance:
I guess you missed the last point which I bolded :hs:
This will make the OEM cluster work as well!
Nissansota240
10-06-2016, 03:39 PM
I guess you missed the last point which I bolded :hs:
This will make the OEM cluster work as well!
Depends if its a sin wave, the s-chassis vss requires a 2 wire input for the speedometer
t66-240
10-06-2016, 03:49 PM
Depends if its a sin wave, the s-chassis vss requires a 2 wire input for the speedometer
it is a 2 wire output...
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/Mike_S_Lee/speedo_zps99peirdy.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/Mike_S_Lee/media/speedo_zps99peirdy.jpg.html)
I guess worst case use a signal converter?
Nissansota240
10-06-2016, 04:03 PM
This is what I used for mine
Intellitronix GPS Speed Sensor, Dakota Digital Speed Converter
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/13925258_10209670896440018_5446334430451015265_n_z psdkcj8ukr.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/13925258_10209670896440018_5446334430451015265_n_z psdkcj8ukr.jpg.html)
This is how I wired mine up, but I don't remember if my notes where correct, I was in a rush finishing my car before SSC and just happened to get the input/output settings correct. Works perfect though. Probably will double check settings later this fall.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/13918505_10209675559756598_646698706_o_zpsygqfpikt .jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/13918505_10209675559756598_646698706_o_zpsygqfpikt .jpg.html)
t66-240
10-06-2016, 04:11 PM
Thanks for posting that.
This guy figured out a way to skip the Dakota converter.
https://ekwang.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/ls1-ecu-to-240sx-s13-speed/
TheRealSy90
10-06-2016, 05:14 PM
Thanks for posting that.
This guy figured out a way to skip the Dakota converter.
https://ekwang.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/ls1-ecu-to-240sx-s13-speed/
Link didn't work for me but I'm at work so idk.
dwnshft2drft
10-08-2016, 01:20 PM
Has anyone figure out or know a link where I can radioshack a s14 speedo cluster with abs diff?
jerry_beans
12-16-2016, 05:54 PM
F I N A L L Y finished assembling my transmission! I'm running the Maverick Motorsports adapter (sent out my bell housing to George FPR machining) and I'm using the GKTech shifter bracket and crossmember!
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/94F970CC-495F-402E-AE42-8C14D4BCE455_zps6ki2yvmn.jpg (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/94F970CC-495F-402E-AE42-8C14D4BCE455_zps6ki2yvmn.jpg.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/319A408E-D2A5-4DE3-A30C-BB6BDEE7FEEC_zpsvkjp1cqs.jpg (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/319A408E-D2A5-4DE3-A30C-BB6BDEE7FEEC_zpsvkjp1cqs.jpg.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/7A10EB5C-E1B5-492B-AAD5-31AEFA8D847D_zpsswqj26zc.jpg (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/7A10EB5C-E1B5-492B-AAD5-31AEFA8D847D_zpsswqj26zc.jpg.html)
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/friskynippsjerry/94BAF2B7-311B-4A36-A217-1890C75AD127_zpslxmyucgi.jpg (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/friskynippsjerry/media/94BAF2B7-311B-4A36-A217-1890C75AD127_zpslxmyucgi.jpg.html)
Anyone know?? will the reverse lights on my car still function?
Black240Ct
12-16-2016, 06:05 PM
yeah reverse lights are that blue plug on the drivers side under the shifter in that last pic you posted
jerry_beans
12-16-2016, 06:45 PM
Thanks!!!:kiss:
TheRealSy90
12-18-2016, 12:39 PM
Got my Bellhousing cut off last night, definitely should have got a longer sawzall blade. I got a shorter one thinking it would be easiest. Longer blade is the way to go.
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Koukiii
12-18-2016, 03:42 PM
Got my Bellhousing cut off last night, definitely should have got a longer sawzall blade. I got a shorter one thinking it would be easiest. Longer blade is the way to go.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161218/b3ac14ef685f44e16d8ed12a8618a5f1.jpg
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Nice thats the collins swap I'm guessing? What clutch are you going with? I'm going with the stage 5 or 6 don't know yet twin disc tho
TheRealSy90
12-18-2016, 03:43 PM
Nice thats the collins swap I'm guessing? What clutch are you going with? I'm going with the stage 5 or 6 don't know yet twin disc tho
Mazworx Bellhousing. OsGiken twin disc, TS2BD.
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Koukiii
12-18-2016, 03:48 PM
Mazworx Bellhousing. OsGiken twin disc, TS2BD.
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Can you use a stock 2jz flywheel? I want a nice streetcar without the crazy rattle of the lightweight custom flywheels the other kits make you use.
Really interested in the parts you are using.
TheRealSy90
12-18-2016, 03:50 PM
Can you use a stock 2jz flywheel? I want a nice streetcar without the crazy rattle of the lightweight custom flywheels the other kits make you use.
Really interested in the parts you are using.
This is on an sr20 lol.
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Koukiii
12-18-2016, 03:56 PM
This is on an sr20 lol.
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Sorry bro I'm stoned and this has been on my mind so I just assumed lol :picardfp:
Itsalexwoo
01-08-2017, 10:18 AM
What throw out bearing do you guys use for the SR to CD009 swap. SR bearing or z33 Bearing or do they both happen to be the same size.
TheRealSy90
01-08-2017, 10:19 AM
The Mazworx Bellhousing uses the sr fork, sleeve and bearing.
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Itsalexwoo
01-08-2017, 10:25 AM
Thanks I need to find out what to use with a Collins sr adapter
japslapsilvia
01-10-2017, 08:00 AM
Anyone having Issues with the GKTech Shifter? ive got all it all assembled on the tranny sitting on a table. The problem that im having is the reverse lock-out, when i push the shifter down to engage reverse, it wont pop back up when in neutral, I have greased the bushing, lightly scuffed it with a file, cleaned up the inside diameter of the new selector (part bushing sits in) to no available. Ive even shimmed the spring a bit to increase the rate. Anyone else have this issue? if so any fix?
TheRealSy90
01-10-2017, 08:13 AM
Mine does the same thing but was better after i greased it all up. I just have to lightly pull it up. Really doesn't bother me honestly, I don't use reverse that often lol.
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LuckyX2
01-12-2017, 09:13 AM
So what's the current consensus on the most cost effective bellhousing solution? I think I'm ready to pull the trigger. The Mazworx looks nice but pricey...
hanzbrady
01-12-2017, 09:29 AM
So what's the current consensus on the most cost effective bellhousing solution? I think I'm ready to pull the trigger. The Mazworx looks nice but pricey...
Currently it's 10% off ;)
doyle4281
02-06-2017, 07:57 PM
Hello guys, is there something about the RB20/25/26 engines that make it more difficult to use these CD00x adapters. It seems only Collins Adapters sells one for the RB, even though the KA is so similar. I would like to get one, I just havent seen anyone successfully using one on an RB
Billcriss
02-06-2017, 08:27 PM
Hello guys, is there something about the RB20/25/26 engines that make it more difficult to use these CD00x adapters. It seems only Collins Adapters sells one for the RB, even though the KA is so similar. I would like to get one, I just havent seen anyone successfully using one on an RB
From my understanding usually the JZ crew use these as a cheaper alternative to the R154. Unless you don't have a transmission I would keep the rb one.
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doyle4281
02-06-2017, 08:33 PM
From my understanding usually the JZ crew use these as a cheaper alternative to the R154. Unless you don't have a transmission I would keep the rb one.
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I have both the CD009 and a Z32/RB hybrid. I would just prefer to have the CD009 6 speed. From what I see, the SR and KA guys use them, and there is one for sale for the RB, just cant find any testimonials on them. There will without a doubt be more CD00x adapters available in the coming years, as it seems to be becoming quite popular now. Im just curious as too why the RB is uniquely excluded by most companies, especially when all RWD RB26 conversions require a transmission conversion. Is there something different that I am missing, as I was under the impression the RB and KA transmission setups were nearly the same
hanzbrady
02-06-2017, 08:36 PM
I have both the CD009 and a Z32/RB hybrid. I would just prefer to have the CD009 6 speed. From what I see, the SR and KA guys use them, and there is one for sale for the RB, just cant find any testimonials on them. There will without a doubt be more CD00x adapters available in the coming years, as it seems to be becoming quite popular now. Im just curious as too why the RB is uniquely excluded by most companies, especially when all RWD RB26 conversions require a transmission conversion. Is there something different that I am missing, as I was under the impression the RB and KA transmission setups were nearly the same
It's because almost nobody builds RB's in the states therefore manufactures of conversion items have a hard time justifying the time and research needed to produce a product for a small audience that might not produce a profit.
doyle4281
02-06-2017, 08:43 PM
It's because almost nobody builds RB's in the states therefore manufactures of conversion items have a hard time justifying the time and research needed to produce a product for a small audience that might not produce a profit.
Possibly, but not many people build VH's either and many companies sell one for that conversion. Would be nice to hear some feedback concerning the Collins Adapter for the RB, unless they didnt really sell many. I cant seem to get responses from Collins Adapter concerning the details of their adapter, so I am hesitant to buy.
Yellow4g63
02-06-2017, 08:47 PM
Carl on nico did the swap a few years ago on his Rb30. Jwt sells an adapter but you need the auto bell housing to use it.
doyle4281
02-06-2017, 08:50 PM
Carl on nico did the swap a few years ago on his Rb30. Jwt sells an adapter but you need the auto bell housing to use it.
Thank you. I messaged him, however I have not received a response yet. The JWT setup is made for the SR and KA, but I think that the KA is so similar that it may be able to be used. The JWT requires cutting the bellhousing off, while the Collins Adapter requires 14mm of machining. The JWT setup also requires you to switch to an internal slave cylinder. It would be nice to hear some opinions on the pros and cons of these two styles of conversions. Thanks for the response
travon47
02-07-2017, 07:58 AM
Possibly, but not many people build VH's either and many companies sell one for that conversion. Would be nice to hear some feedback concerning the Collins Adapter for the RB, unless they didnt really sell many. I cant seem to get responses from Collins Adapter concerning the details of their adapter, so I am hesitant to buy.
I tried to buy a Collins adaptor in 2015, got him to respond once and the rest was history. horrible customer service and ended up choosing LOJ conversions for a lsx-cd009 adaptor and couldn't be happier. Not sure how Collins makes money not responding to people
doyle4281
02-07-2017, 09:11 AM
I tried to buy a Collins adaptor in 2015, got him to respond once and the rest was history. horrible customer service and ended up choosing LOJ conversions for a lsx-cd009 adaptor and couldn't be happier. Not sure how Collins makes money not responding to people
Exactly the same experience here. I inquired, I got a sentence response, replied, and have not heard anything since. For something as critical and bespoke as a custom transmission adapter, there should be at least good tutorials available if they aren't going to provide tech support.
pacotaco345
02-07-2017, 01:50 PM
I have both the CD009 and a Z32/RB hybrid. I would just prefer to have the CD009 6 speed. From what I see, the SR and KA guys use them, and there is one for sale for the RB, just cant find any testimonials on them. There will without a doubt be more CD00x adapters available in the coming years, as it seems to be becoming quite popular now. Im just curious as too why the RB is uniquely excluded by most companies, especially when all RWD RB26 conversions require a transmission conversion. Is there something different that I am missing, as I was under the impression the RB and KA transmission setups were nearly the same
I bet no one makes an adapter for the RB because after the extra length of the motor, and the extra length of the trans, the shifter would be in the back seat.
Gar9854
02-07-2017, 02:57 PM
I bet no one makes an adapter for the RB because after the extra length of the motor, and the extra length of the trans, the shifter would be in the back seat.
Yet they sell for jz's.
They don't sell to many since 25boxes seem pretty stout from the get go really
pacotaco345
02-07-2017, 03:24 PM
Yet they sell for jz's.
A Supra/SC300/IS300/GS300 is much longer than a 240sx lol
doyle4281
02-07-2017, 03:57 PM
These responses all further raise the question of why the RB adapter is so frequently excluded from many companies offerings. 2JZ, VH45, even toyota V8's are all less common than the RB26 conversion, however the adapters are more available. I'm not criticizing this, as business relies on demand, I just don't think that is the reason. Is there something unique about the RB's that make these adapters less straight forward. We know you can pretty much any transmission bolted up to practically any engine, that's not my concern. Its the input shaft issues, clutch engagement, and throwout system that is the complexity. Being that Collins Adapter is the only company advertising the RB to CD00x adapter, it makes me skeptical of its operation as nobody else is selling it. This is the most frustrating part of the equation, the one company offering a product with no tutorial, minimal details, and no proven application on their website
Speaking of RB, seeing how the collins adapter fits ka and rb, think my next project is to swap in a cd009 max out the ka around 500ish and later build an rb26 on the side. When the ka goes, just swap it in and call it a day with a nice single.
rbs14kouki
02-14-2017, 11:25 AM
I did a swap on a rb25 to z33 in a r32 gtst last summer . My friend was blowing rb25 transmission every event . And at 800$ a piece around here its a non sence to keep trying to run them .
Collins makes a kit for the rb25/26/ka24de
http://collinsadapters.com/index.php/adapter-plates/rb26dett-rb25det-ka24de-to-350z-350zhr-370zransmission-adapter-plate.html
Wasnt an easy bolt-on like the one i did for my other friend in is sr20 s14 .
On the rb kit the shifter and trany it not 100% strait ... its clocked abit to the left . Nothing craze tho we left it alone like that . And we had to cut abit of the tunnel to clear the the gktech shifter .
I just did an other swap on a 13b with collins kit and nothing was working out . The website got corrected and we got a refund because its only compatible for a 20b or fd3s auto 13b . Nothing else .
brndck
02-14-2017, 01:06 PM
i ordered a Collins kit 3 months ago.
still waiting for it to be shipped.
they do respond when i email though, some story about moving locations and having to re-set up machinery.
could be BS. I'm running low on patience but no one makes an adaptor for vk45/cd009
doyle4281
02-14-2017, 01:21 PM
i ordered a Collins kit 3 months ago.
still waiting for it to be shipped.
they do respond when i email though, some story about moving locations and having to re-set up machinery.
could be BS. I'm running low on patience but no one makes an adaptor for vk45/cd009
I decided to avoid all the issues I have been hearing, and went with another option. During my research however, I was told by Jim Wolf Technology that they will be releasing a CD00x adapter for the Vk/Vh engines. Its not a simple adapter like the Collins setup, it involved cutting off the bellhousing an using the adapter to bolt on an automatic bellhousing. Contact Ben over there, they may expedite it if they get interest
hanzbrady
02-15-2017, 08:07 AM
Figured I'd tease you guys a bit, guess the chassis!
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag214/HanzB_/240%20build%20v2/D9B0CAC7-5AC9-45E7-890C-99B1BEE108D3_zpsyuiu0mja.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/HanzB_/media/240%20build%20v2/D9B0CAC7-5AC9-45E7-890C-99B1BEE108D3_zpsyuiu0mja.jpg.html)
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag214/HanzB_/240%20build%20v2/E4E5C1E6-3588-4A09-B71F-401688953BE2_zpsbg4f6kvr.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/HanzB_/media/240%20build%20v2/E4E5C1E6-3588-4A09-B71F-401688953BE2_zpsbg4f6kvr.jpg.html)
LuckyX2
02-16-2017, 06:02 AM
I'd guess BRZ/FRS
TheRealSy90
02-16-2017, 08:15 PM
Obviously 86 chassis lol.
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Koukiii
03-20-2017, 12:08 PM
Almost made a thread for this but figured it will fit in here. I'm buying a new CD009/370z tranny for my 2jz s14 build.
Since I'm buying new I can get the clutch fork version(cd009) or the newer 370z version with the internal slave.
Now I know the internal slave is garbage and needs to be replaced with a $300 new one.
Pretty much what I'm asking is should I get the clutch for version or the internal slave version both new? Is the later model 370z version any stronger/smoother?
hanzbrady
03-20-2017, 01:01 PM
Almost made a thread for this but figured it will fit in here. I'm buying a new CD009/370z tranny for my 2jz s14 build.
Since I'm buying new I can get the clutch fork version(cd009) or the newer 370z version with the internal slave.
Now I know the internal slave is garbage and needs to be replaced with a $300 new one.
Pretty much what I'm asking is should I get the clutch for version or the internal slave version both new? Is the later model 370z version any stronger/smoother?
The later model has stronger synchros and has a 10mm smaller input shaft bearing than the first gen CD009
RickS14
03-21-2017, 10:47 AM
The later model has stronger synchros and has a 10mm smaller input shaft bearing than the first gen CD009
Do you have proof of that?
Because all transmission numbers are now cd00A
Just depends on internal or external slave because of model year.
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hanzbrady
03-21-2017, 11:52 AM
Do you have proof of that?
Because all transmission numbers are now cd00A
Just depends on internal or external slave because of model year.
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Well the Wikipedia page for the Z chassis states that and we've taken several apart at the shop and the later model ones are beefier for sure.
I'm fairly positive it's broken up by VQ35de, VQ35de RU, VQ35de HR, VQ37, and VQ37 HR as far as when trannys got upgraded.
I know for sure that first gen 350z transmissions have a 100mm input shaft bearing, VQ35HR's have a 95mm, and the 370 has a 90mm. We sell adapter rings to be used for our bellhousing adapter here at the shop since our kit was designed for the first gen box.
travon47
03-21-2017, 12:22 PM
Almost made a thread for this but figured it will fit in here. I'm buying a new CD009/370z tranny for my 2jz s14 build.
Since I'm buying new I can get the clutch fork version(cd009) or the newer 370z version with the internal slave.
Now I know the internal slave is garbage and needs to be replaced with a $300 new one.
Pretty much what I'm asking is should I get the clutch for version or the internal slave version both new? Is the later model 370z version any stronger/smoother?
You want the external slave, easiest to work with and since your buying new you will new buying the best updated version of the cd009.
TheRealSy90
03-21-2017, 12:31 PM
If you're using the mazworx bellhousing it does not matter what trans you get as it works on all of them. And you can use either a fork or an internal slave.
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hanzbrady
03-21-2017, 12:32 PM
If you're using the mazworx bellhousing it does not matter what trans you get as it works on all of them. And you can use either a fork or an internal slave.
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You do need the corresponding adapter ring for the input shaft bearing as I stated but this is correct.
LoSt180
03-21-2017, 01:47 PM
Do you have proof of that?
Because all transmission numbers are now cd00A
Just depends on internal or external slave because of model year.
That last part isn't entirely true. The latest CD00x trans you can buy new is the CD00A version. This replaced the CD009. Early 350Z models had CD000 thru CD008 with revisions such as better/more syncros. CD009 has triple cone syncros for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd; whereas the original CD000 had double cone syncros for 1st, 3rd, and 4th, and triple cone on 2nd only. Basically avoid early 350Z transmissions since the syncros have all kinds of issues.
The 370Z and HR 350Z trans aren't technically CD0 trans anymore. HR and G37 trans is a JK41B, and 370Z is a 1EA0A(B). So if you want a new trans with internal slave, you'd have to order one of these new part numbers. A CD00A will be the standard external slave design.
They can be fairly interchangeable, the service manuals refer to both Z33 and Z34 as a "FS6R31A" type trans. Just make sure you know what you have, so that you can get the correct adapters if needed.
fatduece
03-21-2017, 02:56 PM
^Good into. What upgrades does cd00A have that cd009 doesn't?
LoSt180
03-21-2017, 03:20 PM
^Good into. What upgrades does cd00A have that cd009 doesn't?
No idea. Tried searching, but only turned up vendors with a generic "newest revision from Nissan" statement. The syncros in CD008 and below and CD009/CD00A is the greatest difference though.
SidewayzAsFck
03-21-2017, 03:40 PM
Does anyone know what throw out bearing, fork and sleeve the autotech adapter plate calls for? Also does this adapter require any additional modification other than milling the bellhousing 1/2" & the information listed in this heavy throttle post: http://www.heavythrottle.com/2014/01/15/new-product-release-autechs-sr20-to-vq-350z-6-speed-mt-adapter-plate/
I am running an OS giken twin plate also which comes with its own bearing but I recall a post on here mentioning possible issues with finding the right size release bearing for this swap with certain twin plate clutches.
Waited fringing 6-7 months for my parts from cbf performance shifter assembly to ultimately cancelling and going with gktech (which I should have done in the beginning). Getting my stuff tomorrow so I haven't done much with my setup as yet. Also need a good machine shop in central NJ for the milling portion if anyone knows any.
JordanS
03-21-2017, 11:45 PM
Does anyone know what throw out bearing, fork and sleeve the autotech adapter plate calls for? Also does this adapter require any additional modification other than milling the bellhousing 1/2" & the information listed in this heavy throttle post: http://www.heavythrottle.com/2014/01/15/new-product-release-autechs-sr20-to-vq-350z-6-speed-mt-adapter-plate/
I am running an OS giken twin plate also which comes with its own bearing but I recall a post on here mentioning possible issues with finding the right size release bearing for this swap with certain twin plate clutches.
Waited fringing 6-7 months for my parts from cbf performance shifter assembly to ultimately cancelling and going with gktech (which I should have done in the beginning). Getting my stuff tomorrow so I haven't done much with my setup as yet. Also need a good machine shop in central NJ for the milling portion if anyone knows any.
That could've been me that said that - have a quick skim through my build thread, I documented which release bearing I had to get for an OSG Twin Plate & Z33 setup.
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=639984
SidewayzAsFck
03-21-2017, 11:46 PM
That could've been me that said that - have a quick skim through my build thread, I documented which release bearing I had to get for an OSG Twin Plate & Z33 setup.
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=639984
Awesome! Thank you brother!
Kind of wish I never looked... Makes me want to burn my 240 to the ground T.T
Koukiii
03-22-2017, 05:52 AM
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm planning on getting the 370z 1EA0B non rev match model since it has the latest syncro update. Just sucks I have to also pay for a $300 internal slave...
brndck
03-22-2017, 06:03 AM
finally got a tracking number that works from Collins
6 months later.
LoSt180
03-22-2017, 09:39 AM
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm planning on getting the 370z 1EA0B non rev match model since it has the latest syncro update. Just sucks I have to also pay for a $300 internal slave...
Z1 Motorsports sells a conversion kit https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-products/z1-motorsports/z1-clutch-concentric-slave-cylinder-csc-elimination-kit-p-7340.html
Or you can just order a new CD00A and not have to worry about it.
RickS14
03-22-2017, 03:22 PM
So now I'm confused what the difference between the internal and external slave model other then the slave? I took it as they are all the same internally?
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rbs14kouki
03-24-2017, 12:40 AM
Does anyone know what throw out bearing, fork and sleeve the autotech adapter plate calls for? Also does this adapter require any additional modification other than milling the bellhousing 1/2" & the information listed in this heavy throttle post: http://www.heavythrottle.com/2014/01/15/new-product-release-autechs-sr20-to-vq-350z-6-speed-mt-adapter-plate/
I am running an OS giken twin plate also which comes with its own bearing but I recall a post on here mentioning possible issues with finding the right size release bearing for this swap with certain twin plate clutches.
Waited fringing 6-7 months for my parts from cbf performance shifter assembly to ultimately cancelling and going with gktech (which I should have done in the beginning). Getting my stuff tomorrow so I haven't done much with my setup as yet. Also need a good machine shop in central NJ for the milling portion if anyone knows any.
Like i said in the pm . Here is the mesuring that had to be done to figure out what carrier tu use .
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKj-KCKAVmw/?taken-by=blkreapers14
And here is a list of carrier with the size and part#
12mm : 30501-A3800
14mm : 30501-N1601
16mm : 30501-U0200
18mm 30501-S0200 (Z33)
22mm : 30501-S0160 (Z32)
24mm : 30501-K0404 (S13/S14)
26mm : 30501-K0510 (D21 Frontier / Xterra)
28mm : 30501-N1600 (D22 Frontier / Z31 Turbo) [07/83 - 09/86]
32mm : 30501-U8584 (D40)
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