My car just got painted...

[AAA240SX]

ok snapped sum pix of my pos...thought i'd share. it's with mah guys at Earl Scheib's - they do good work.

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cwest front, sides, and rear. msports fenders. house of kolor paint. blah.
i know --- i need rims now :hammer: there's goes all my money :fart:

[sticky240]

looks good

[NISMOoPW]

Whoa, everyone's doing blue now. What's with the hood scoop? Uh oh, now it'll sound like I'm ripping on you. I must say, professional paint jobs are sweet, I for one know I wouldn't spend the dough to have that done, because I have more time than money now that the engine's done. Sweet car, try to get some better lighting in the next set of pics so we can see the paint real well. Should look good with wheels. :x:

[Brian]

colour looks pretty cool!
any idea on the name of it?

[KiDyNomiTe]

So I am expecting your car at RS*R then, enter it in the car show if you don't want to drive, its free (with some prizes to be had).

I used to be in love with C-West kit and hoped my car would be like that (color too), oh well my plans have changed drastically.

Did you do the paint or did you go somewhere? Just wondering cuz I am going to be looking for a paint shop in the area some time next year.

[DRFT]

the paint on the rear bumper on the last pic, that corner of the bumper looks really nasty, where the paint seems to be running. but everything else looks good

[CKAMC]

NICE! I agree try and get some better lighting! what kind of blue is it? pearl? i cant tell since the lightin is bad.

[TheSnail]

Very nice AAA240sx ! Looks Great.

[S14DB]

Get it out in the sun a take some more shots.

[evilimport]

looks really good... the sun would do wonders for the pics though.

[AAA240SX]

the pictures were from last week when the car wasn't finished yet. that was only the first coat of paint. they are still wetsanding it over again, then another two coats. after that 3 stage clear coat.

ok the story on the hood scoop, haha. My mom backed into my car with her Pilot. Fawked mah shit up. My hood was buckled and my attain hl cover cracked...i was pissed so i just experimented with my molding skills. it turned out ok, i guess. its just temporary until i save up for something better. :(

the paint is house of kolor oriental blue urethane base coat with the cobalt blue kandy urethane top coat.

kiddyn: i'm gunna try to make it out to the RSR event. with work n skool getting in the way of my social life, it sux. i'll pm u if i need help getting there.

earl schieb's (Western Ave & Irving Park in Chicago). It's right next to a gas station and dunkin donuts at the corner, you can't miss it. Their work is really good quality, and nice people to work with. Pricing is competative too, they beat or match any estimate you bring in! o yea and check this: $24 extra on ur paint job and they do a 24 month warranty. any dents, scratches, or if ur car gets keyed they fix it for FREE!!! U can also change ur color for free. Black to blue, red to grey, whatever. Free within the 24 months... but if u have custom paint (like mine) warranty doesn't apply. enuff promo on the shop... but definetly stop by and get a quote. highly recom. :)

sorry about the shitty pix. my camera sux and there was little light at the time (early morning). once the car is completly finished I'll post more pix.

[AAA240SX]

o yea, i had them cut the rear fender 2 inches up for the wide panels. they covered the cut fender (open metal) with this rubber sticky tape shit. looks like a band aid but in black. i know that'll come right off after a couple months. is there anything i can apply that will prevent it from rusting?

im gunna rustproof the undercarriage and possibly the wheel wells. salt machines are coming, will that be enuff?

[240niz]

Nice color...How much did you pay??

[AutoRnD]

what hood do you have?

[silviaguy]

So I am expecting your car at RS*R then, enter it in the car show if you don't want to drive, its free (with some prizes to be had).

I used to be in love with C-West kit and hoped my car would be like that (color too), oh well my plans have changed drastically.

Did you do the paint or did you go somewhere? Just wondering cuz I am going to be looking for a paint shop in the area some time next year.


Yea, I would love to see it there. Don't worry my car won't be there :cry:

[projectRDM]

Shame they took the time to mask things off instead of just removing them. Paintjobs look a lot cleaner when there's no extra masking to be done and I'm certain there will be some overspray somewhere. Otherwise looks good from the pics.

[old_s13]

Shame they took the time to mask things off instead of just removing them. Paintjobs look a lot cleaner when there's no extra masking to be done and I'm certain there will be some overspray somewhere. Otherwise looks good from the pics.

psssh... come on man, the tail lights are masked on there.

jeez.

[AAA240SX]

Samad dude wuzzup? i didn't knoe u post on zilvia. this is john, arlo's bro.
for any1 that doesn't kno i'm running wholesale parts from mah crib (since 2000). i have account with hok so the paint came at reduced cost. if any1 wants a good deal, let me know...

Josh, the hood is oem with a vis scoop molded into it. It's the alltrac celica type scoop, but it looks more like an FC's scoop. i dunno, like i sed it's temporary...

they masked everything up pretty well. they did remove the tails though. it's coming out nicely, i have no complaints.

[AAA240SX]

No one go to Earl Shieb's, they just fawked my car up.

they sprayed to much top coat so now it looks purple. they got paint all over my exhaust, paint is peeling off the door jambs, the weatherstripping isn't installed correctly on the rear windows, there are air bubbles and orange peel every where. AHH!!! I want to sell my car now...fawk this shit....

[BlackS14]

Well damn.....I was about to give congrats, but seeing your last post it doesn;t look as if it's called for. Sorry to hear man....

-Bill

[aznpoopy]

that sucks dude... put up some pics of the damage! sorry to hear it.

[HyperTek]

I hear maaco and 1day paint and body are pretty decent shops.... everyone says bad stuff about earl...

But you got that warranty right? cant you have em touch it up?

[justinhustle]

if i even only liked my car, i wouldnt take it there

save up =/

cuz you get what you pay for

[aznpoopy]

I hear maaco and 1day paint and body are pretty decent shops.... everyone says bad stuff about earl...

But you got that warranty right? cant you have em touch it up?

it really depends on the shop... i dunno about earl but maaco is a chain. some shops are good and some are bad. just depends on the people working at the particular shop. it helps if you do all the prep yourself ... the less they have to do, the more likely they won't fuck up.

[rainier]

nice color choice. post some more pics when u get it

[MakotoS13]

maaco is crap, always, forever.

[ScottMan]

Sorry about your bad experience, man. :(


I'm wrapping up the body work on my s13 and one thing I know is that body work takes so much time. Between sanding, priming, filler, more sanding, even more sanding, etc. it takes a long time and it's not easy labor. The spraying is the fun part. I just can't imagine Maaco or comparable shops that charge $500 for prep and paint do enough work to get a good result. Do you really think most of those places color sand?

[mrmephistopheles]

Earl Scheib's - they do good work.

No one go to Earl Shieb's, they just fawked my car up.


:goyou: :tweak:

You get what you pay for.

[Yoshi]

How much did it cost you to have them screw over your car?
Just wondering if it was a Maaco-ish price range or higher.

Can you PM me about HOK paint? I'm getting sprayed soon too, I'm trying to find a pearlescent black, or a very flakey metallic black.

[kandyflip445]

Yeah, PM me too. Or I'll pm you. How much paint is needed and what other materials from HoK is needed? And is there a way to look at the damn colors without having to buy their program? :p

[Marty]

that really sucks, sorry to hear about that

[AAA240SX]

Ok, well they fawked me over for $1800 total. Bitches...

Anyway, if anyone wants info on HOK paint that I can get, please PM me with the color of interest, and i can send you a sample of what it looks like through e-mail. either a car with the paint or a pic of the card samples that I have.

ok, now here's my situation.

this paint job sux. and i want out of this shit. it's just been a headache lately (the whole project). I want to sell it, but i know i'm gunna b out a lot of cash from the sale (mods, parts, etc). The good body shop that I passed up (because I've price - my bad) is gunna charge me $6k now, to undo all the bull shit from Earl's and redo do it correctly. Should i sell and b done, and buy a $1500 89-94. Or, keep driving this hunk of shit, until i save up to get it redone?

I'm just desperate and need some advise...this sux

[KiDyNomiTe]

Is it just the color that is off, but is painted fine? If so sell it someone is bound to like the color.

[zanos]

they charged you 1800???!?!?and still fucked it up?damn..............i painted my car there for $350,did all the prep myself,and it turned out very nice(for $350:)).Maaan,for $1800 you couldve gone to some reputable shop to do the job.Like ,when i was shopping around for prices ,i went to that hot rod shop,and they quoted me $2000,for the whole thing(prep,.paint...)And they do a good job.Dude ,im sorry for you,but you should've known better.............

[Bryants95240sx]

if you dont want to drive it around that color just sand it back down and primer it.then save up to get it painted right. sorry they scrwed you over though.

[justinhustle]

go to a good shop in your area and ask em to touch it up, if the whole thing isnt fucked up, theyll just spot touch it up a few different times

itll cost much less

or rock that primer dog

[CoasTek240]

i was put in almost the same situation, not quite as bad. my car was painted after my accident last year. it was a decent job, and they did very well with paint. but they skimped on prep and other things. its starting to peel around the edges in some spots, and i can see 180 scratches on some inconspicuous spots.
(this is what im doing to my car)
you really need to have that paint completly stripped, 80 scratch the whole car, prime it up with a couple coats of primer, block it out, wetsand. my neighbor is a body guy/painter for a local hotrod/chopper shop, we'll be doing all the prep, and then im tossin him a couple bucks to take my car to his shop and spray it.
this is what i recommend you do. Obviously you can find hook ups. (house of kolor paint)...if you cant afford the paint after youve done the body work, its ok to rock primer, just make sure its the right type. i dont know much about the paints, but i know there are primers that are cool being exposed to the elements for several months. (my neighbors show car has been primed for 2 years now and hes just getting around to painting it this month.) once youve got the body just how you would like, take it to a reputable paint shop, they will appreciate the fresh canvas (if done right). they will only need to then tape up, scratch it with a high grit and apply some prepping solvent. If theyre a good shop, theyll wetsand a b4 and after coats of clear and paint as well as buff it after the car has cured properly.
good luck!

[AAA240SX]

ok now here's the deal on the HOK paint. It is sensitive as hell...

once the base coat is on, the kandy top coat needs to be done perfectly or the paint will not come out correctly. they wasted all my fawkin paint on for the top coat. it's all gone when i was supposed to have some left for touch ups and my wing that wasn't mounted. the color came out a lot darker than its supposed to: it's burple, when it's supposed to be a strong cobalt blue.

the body shop i was going to take it to is gunna b pissed off after seeing what happened to the car. they might not even want to take it...it's so booty wack and will involve shit loads of work.

let me point out some shit earl's did.
they mounted my 180sx windows ghey as hell and purposely broke the bolt that sticks into the car frame (that you tighten down with a 10mm nut from the inside).
they installed the weatherstripping with elmer's type glue.
they broke my attain hl cover
they didn't prep the entire car at all, just molded in the rear fenders.
they got paint on my NurSpec.
they got paint all over my carpet.
they didn't finish painting my interior (which i paid extra for)
they fawked up my godam door jams
they scratched up my black molding (around the windshield)
they're just fawking wack as hell....

so the other (good) body shop, will need to repair all the shit that was broken, redo the rear windows, sand everything down, and repaint. not including the fact that I need new paint and shit. I think I', just going to sell the car....this is too much...

[HyperTek]

the thing is.. when you pay at a "fast food" paint shop (or even stereo blah blah shops) is that they dont treat customer cars like thier own.. just wam bam get the job done..

Some shop is letting my friend prep his car at thier facility on his own time, so i might check it out.. I know body repair on my car is gonna cost alot, unless i put new body panals and possibly slap fender flares on my rear... suxors

[CoasTek240]

with all those "fuckups" on your car, you need to threaten to sue, or sue! thats just fucking wrong, they devalued your car. i know there are reprecussions you can take. do it. i know its going to cost money and time and energy, but in the end they did you wrong and you need to be compensated. My paint job turned out like piss i thought, but nothing compared to that. if mine turned out the way yours did, i wouldve demanded my car and my money. and if they give you flack, get a couple boys together beat the shit out of them and everyone who works there with baseball bats. then burn the bats and call it a day. if everyone did that earl sheibs would stop doing what they do.
i'm not a violent person, unless it comes to fucking with my money (i.e. my job), or my car. If eithe rone is fucked with i go into incredible hulk mode. It'd be totally acceptable to trash their shop too.

good luck!

[AAA240SX]

word, i suppose it was my fault. hopefully i can save up enuff money and get it done right...thanks guyz...

[Thorpedo]

Most shops offer some type of warranty with their work(workmanship warranty, not damage obviously). if they dont, DONT GO THERE! our shop has a lifetime workmanship warranty and our backup warranty is through Standox(they do all the european automakers factory paint IE:BMW,Mercedes, a few others, cant name them all) being a standox premium certified shop. Report them to the BBB if needed, if you bitch and complain enough and report them to the BBB, im sure they'll either partially reimburse you or redo the work properly.

[zanos]

hey,AAA240sx,howbout that warranty,dude?i know that Earl have workmanship warranty,i painted my car there like 2 weeks ago,there were some runs,i took it back and they gladly repaired it free of charge.So try making them fix all the shit they done wrong,if you have problems with the manager,call the corporate office,and tell them what happened.Also,warranty says - you can take the car to any "earl scheit" location and they are gonna fix shit...........basically read the back of the receipt they gave you-all warranty shit is there.And go to their website-theres the corporate office phone #,call there and complain ,complain ,complain,untill they gonna force the fucked up shop to fix your car.Dont fucking give up-this is your car and your money that you worked for!!!!And dont give up your car ,just because some fuckers painted it all wrong.........

[91CRXsiR]

make them fix it or get a full refund including cost of paint. .. you can talk to a lawyer..

[shinhed]

make them fix it or get a full refund including cost of paint. .. you can talk to a lawyer..
:werd:
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[AAA240SX]

Warranty with them only applies, if you use "their" paint. Euro 1, 2, and 3 bullshit. Since mine was custom they had no warranty. I am taking it back a week from monday and they're gunna fix all the shit that they fucked up.

Re-mount rear windows, fix door jambs, repair broken parts, clean exhaust, repaint interior, and other misc. things that I have been pointing out. They CAN'T though, repaint the whole car - they're just gay. So I'm gunna have to stick with this thing for a while until god's good graces allows me to save up enough.

I remember my friend had boughten a turbo kit online for $2500.00, and he was jipped (never got his money back). Yea, mine's not as bad - but I feel the same way right now. :mad:

[-E-]

sorry to hear that hope everything works out

[superman0234]

Bro, post some pics of the car so we can see if it's as bad as you say it is.

[SirWarrior]

i dont know much about the paints, but i know there are primers that are cool being exposed to the elements for several months. (my neighbors show car has been primed for 2 years now and hes just getting around to painting it this month.)
Thats not really true.
Primer needs to be in good shape before applying paint.
So if there is anything on it, road tar, grease (even from your palms) it needs to be sanded down and re-primered. If it was sitting in the garage, it could be ok, if it was exposed to snow/rain, they should really do it right and reprimer it.
My bro is a body man, so I get my shit painted for the cost of product + some beer.
sorry to hear about your fuckup, but there are a lot of other shops that do a great job and don't charge $1800. so if the "good shop" quoted you $6K, you;re getting screwed!!
DA-ing a car shouldn't take more than a day for 1 guy. even @ 60dollars/hr thats $540 in addition to the paint quote. (DA is the orbital sander they use to sand down the car)

[AAA240SX]

SirWarrior: I have an underlying (literally) issue about my car. Maybe you can ask ur bro.

Ok so last year some mother fawkers drilled holes into the sides of my car. At the rear quarter panel. It's now covered up by the wide panels, but I believe the body man at Schieb's just fiberglassed over the holes.

So my question is: Will those holes rust underneath the fiberglass work?

If so, when I sand this fawker back down, I'll need to somehow "unmold" those panels. haha. I'm digging myself into a steeper grave.

[SirWarrior]

WTF???
someone just drilled into your bodypanels/?????
what happened to just keying a car??

anyway.
The rust needs a bare metal to start.
if its just drilled through, all you have to do is put some paint (krylon even) on the inside of the hole (where the metal is bare) that will work.
Fiberglassing is nice, as long as they did it right. it can stop rust too. As long as there is no way for moisture to get to bare metal, you're OK. no need to unmold the sides.
HTH

[240silvia]

Roll that thing outside so we can see the real color. I'm sure the flash isn't doing it justice.

[CoasTek240]

sirwarrior your right about the primer, but if you did all the other prep work, da'd the car, stripped, sealed, blocked, primed, and then you get stuff on the outside layer of primer while in the course of driving your car, then you only need to scratch down the whole car, and apply a couple light layers of primerr and block it back down again and shoot. most likely in that course of time, youll get a couple dents and dings anyways, so really your going to need to redo the uppermost layer of bodywork all the way around, but you wont have to be going back down to metal to do things right.

[24Zero]

I know it would be a ways for you to travel probably, but we have a super Paint and Bodyshop in Alabama if you want it done right.

[OptionZero]

hasn't every single thread on this forum about Earls, Maaco, all those places warned about this exact thing happening?

[lean]

My last paint job was shit too.. fish-eyes like a mother fucker, paint drips, overspray and foggy paint all over the place. Paid $1300 cash for some body work, new rear window with tint and the paint job. Few weeks after it got painted, found out the guy was in jail for domestic violence and resisting arrest.

Had the car professionally buffed and wetsanded a while after that and the car looked tits.

Ahwell.. it's sold now anyways.

[AAA240SX]

got skool n shit so im snap some pix of the beyotch this week.

yea, some fawkers took a drill to my rear fenders. There was bare metal showing but the fiberglass, I'm sure has covered it. My only concern is that moisture can collect from the other side of the metal panel (behind trunk pieces where antenna setup was). will this create rust?

if so, like i said before, i'm gunna try to unmold the fenders somehow and get to the exposed holes.

[AAA240SX]

im looking at this project for any "long term effects." i don't want the car to b rusted out after years pass.