Possible scammer

[Bsm_chich]

So this guy just asked me to send him pictures of my Silvia trunk lock that he's trying to sell to another user as one of his own. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160219/1b03ec85d595b463bf751c257ddc37e8.jpg

Please ban his ass.


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[deolio]

i'll show you mine if you show me yours

[SoundEfx]

Is he trying to sell your lock as one of his or is he asking you for a pic of yours because he doesn't have a pic of his?

[10psitx]

He does that alot, not really a scammer as such but he will try to sell your parts at a higher price then ask you to ship them to the person he sold it to...That's why his shipping time is always screwed up. He posts stuff for sale too but sends you a message to text him, gets the info and pics, then sells the parts as if he had them all along....so not really a scammer, just not completely honest about his transactions. He did that with parts i had for sale and parts from my buddy.

[Crazyced]

Is he trying to sell your lock as one of his or is he asking you for a pic of yours because he doesn't have a pic of his?Doesn't have a pic? Every single phone on the planet has a camera and can post directly online now. Sounds like he can't find his lock.

[Yardjass]

That's entIrely too much effort for not a lot of profit. He must live with his parents or something.

[Maximum]

I'm not sure who would send a package to any address other than the one provided by paypal upon payment. Very dangerous stuff lol.

[Agent S14]

That's entIrely too much effort for not a lot of profit. He must live with his parents or something.
He has his own shop here in texas. He is well known down here. A lot of us here in south texas buy from him.

[JAStirrett]

RAWGarage ain't a scammer homie. He is a legit seller. Matter of fact, I just got some radio brackets from him for a very good price.

[10psitx]

That's entIrely too much effort for not a lot of profit. He must live with his parents or something.

Less effort than you think, you make money for sending a few messages and a paypal transfer, no initial money outlay, don't deal with packaging or shipping. Not a bad set up at all, as far as i've heard he's not a scammer.

[SoundEfx]

He does that alot, not really a scammer as such but he will try to sell your parts at a higher price then ask you to ship them to the person he sold it to...That's why his shipping time is always screwed up. He posts stuff for sale too but sends you a message to text him, gets the info and pics, then sells the parts as if he had them all along....so not really a scammer, just not completely honest about his transactions. He did that with parts i had for sale and parts from my buddy.

If that is what he does, then he's simply a middle man and depending on his 'mark up', might not be a bad thing.

If he links you to hard to find parts, then cool. But if he takes parts from sellers on here, marks up the price and have the original seller do all the work, it's a win win for everyone EXCEPT the buyer, which sucks.

[collegekid]

In every WTB thread he posts in, he says " I have what you need, text me (cell phone #)"

I'm sure he thinks he's extremely clever but the way hes doing it now is gonna catch up to him in some way or another. I'm glad its coming to light.

[Corbic]

In every WTB thread he posts in, he says " I have what you need, text me (cell phone #)"

I'm sure he thinks he's extremely clever but the way hes doing it now is gonna catch up to him in some way or another. I'm glad its coming to light.

It's called brokering and is a legit form of business. Only a cuddled teenager would get pissed that someone made money selling them something.

That and broke ass 240 owners.

[dizzariot]

It's called brokering and is a legit form of business. Only a cuddled teenager would get pissed that someone made money selling them something.

That and broke ass 240 owners.

*coddled...for fuck's sake Corbic go back to school LOL.

[Corbic]

*coddled...for fuck's sake Corbic go back to school LOL.

You know what's scary?

I have a MBA and averaged a 3.6 from 7th grade thru Post Graduate.

[collegekid]

Are you saying you wanna cuddle corbic?

Cause we can cuddle.

What Rawgarage does not, has never, and will never concern me. I've never had any transaction or interaction with him. The only reason I mentioned it is because he explicitly says "I HAVE..." when that is false. The proper thing he should be saying is " I can get that for you..."

Then again, he identifies as a walrus and I need to check my privilege.

[LockOn!]

Then again, he identifies as a walrus and I need to check my privilege.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/a/ab/Pcprincipal.png/revision/latest?cb=20151101193358


He does that alot, not really a scammer as such but he will try to sell your parts at a higher price then ask you to ship them to the person he sold it to...

Lol, wow, talk about nickle and dimeing.

[dizzariot]

You know what's scary?

I have a MBA and averaged a 3.6 from 7th grade thru Post Graduate.

...that actually is quite frightening. Are you voting for Trump?

[SoundEfx]

I guess spelling is not an important part of the MBA programs any more.

[Corbic]

I guess spelling is not an important part of the MBA programs any more.

That or I actually proof read my work instead of relying on autocorrect.

[LoSt180]

In every WTB thread he posts in, he says " I have what you need, text me (cell phone #)"

I'm sure he thinks he's extremely clever but the way hes doing it now is gonna catch up to him in some way or another. I'm glad its coming to light.

I just assume people ignore him at this point. Literally his reply in many WTB threads.

He said he had what I was looking for, we exchanged a few texts, never got a pic, went cold. That was over a year ago. Even made a random comment when we both replied to the same WTB thread that I was poaching his sale, LOL.

[Yardjass]

He has his own shop here in texas. He is well known down here. A lot of us here in south texas buy from him.

That's actually surprising. I think if I owned a shop, I'd be spending my time, you know, working on cars and looking for nice cars to flip. If I did engage in this sort of thing, it would only be on really high dollar items where I could make a decent profit, not a fuckin trunk lock.

[SoundEfx]

Every dollar counts and as you said, all he has to do is text and post on a site. He doesn't need a warehouse or ship anything. Easy money any way you look at it.

[Matej]

You guys should take a picture of your locks together.

[Bsm_chich]

To answer general question... Yes he's attempting to sell my trunk lock as one of his own. Yes, that's a fraudulent transaction or an attempt to create a fraudulent transaction. I don't need a broker/middleman, I'm not in a rush to sell.


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[Hoffman5982]

I really don't think he should be allowed to pull this middle man shit, and I think he should be required to PM people with his abundance of "I got what you need text me" posts. I know they shouldn't bother me, but I'm sick of seeing them.

[silviasandbeer]

You guys should take a picture of your locks together.

wanna cross locks?:kiss:

[collegekid]

Lets jam both keys in at the same time ;)

[Bsm_chich]

wanna cross locks?:kiss:


Wtf? Why am I not invited to party? What do I look like? alqaeda?


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[AnonymousBlackX]

as far as i know he buys and sells with a mark up, he one tried to buy a steering wheel on a thread that i was also interested. he pmed me in then told me to text him for a wheel. i texted him and tried to sell me the same wheel on the same thread for more. so i told the seller of the original wheel and then he sold it to me instead of him...

[derass]

Seems to me that this person scours the WTB section, finds the parts in FS, then brokers the deal. It's not the worst thing in the world. They're just offering a "service", at a price, to buyers that are too lazy to search for parts themselves.

I suppose the sellers could be making more money by setting their price the same as the broker. But they're not. The sellers have their items priced fairly (for the most part) and they are good people for doing so.

I've been a seller in this situation (not with RAWGarage). I got my asking price and was happy. So in a sense, he is helping sellers.

[SoundEfx]

As I said before, the only person getting screwed from what he's doing is the buyer who buys from him. BUt as mentioned above, they most likely are lazy, so if that is the case, it's a win for everyone.

[silverarrow27]

Maybe Zilvia needs to update their for sale threads that requires usernames written on a sheet of something or whatever in their pictures with the parts/cars their selling. Only 99.9% of the other forums are already doing it. Technically you're still not being scammed if you still receive your part(s) or sell and you received actual $$$ in your account. Sounds like this thread is just a bunch of whiners and crying wolf.

[SoundEfx]

Maybe Zilvia needs to update their for sale threads that requires usernames written on a sheet of something or whatever in their pictures with the parts/cars their selling. Only 99.9% of the other forums are already doing it. Technically you're still not being scammed if you still receive your part(s) or sell and you received actual $$$ in your account. Sounds like this thread is just a bunch of whiners and crying wolf.

I don't think that it's whiners. It's people looking out for others who might not know that they are paying extra for parts when they don't have to.

[Matej]

If he is not in possession of the item at the time of the transaction yet sells it as his, then he is conducting a really scummy operation. You can call him a broker or whatever sweet name, but in the end he is blatantly deceiving and lying to the buyer which should earn him a ban from viewing the marketplace.

The only way this practice would be acceptable is if he was honest and upfront about being only a middleman or if he bought the item up front and did not offer it to the potential buyer until it was physically in his ownership.

[silverarrow27]

I don't think that it's whiners. It's people looking out for others who might not know that they are paying extra for parts when they don't have to.

Like a few of the other members have said though, if you're(Not YOU literally), but if you're too lazy to search the web and with some patience you'll come up on good deals. If you're impatient or just too lazy and expect someone to hand you something because you posted a "WTB" ad. Don't expect for the most part to pay a "reasonable" price.

[JAStirrett]

This thread is so stupid.

If you agree to a price, send the money, and receive the product at the price that you agreed to pay for. Who fucking cares?

It's what we do in America. How about you pay me $75 a month to cut your grass. I go find someone to cut your grass for $50 a month. I don't do any work and make $25 a month. If you don't like it? Buy the product or get the service from someone or somewhere else.

[Konster]

As long as said buyer gets his part I don't see the problem here. Then again this is the interwebz and people will bitch about the slightest thing.

Such is life.

[Hoffman5982]

Like a few of the other members have said though, if you're(Not YOU literally), but if you're too lazy to search the web and with some patience you'll come up on good deals. If you're impatient or just too lazy and expect someone to hand you something because you posted a "WTB" ad. Don't expect for the most part to pay a "reasonable" price.

Wait so is posting in the WTB section the lazy way of doing it??

Let us please not forget that the "search" function on Zilvia is the biggest fucking joke in the world.

[Matej]

How about you pay me $75 a month to cut your grass. I go find someone to cut your grass for $50 a month. I don't do any work and make $25 a month. If you don't like it? Buy the product or get the service from someone or somewhere else.
If you personally agree to cut my grass and then I find out that instead there is an uninvited stranger on my property without you notifying me first that the job would be done by someone else then I would certainly get the service from a more reputable individual.

[JAStirrett]

If you personally agree to cut my grass and then I find out that instead there is an uninvited stranger on my property without you notifying me first that the job would be done by someone else then I would certainly get the service from a more reputable individual.

No one said it has to be an uninvited stranger, but it could most certainly be a business partner. I land and close deals, he does the work.

Also, I would like to add, ya'll do realize EnjukuRacing has a dropshipping program, right? I mean what RAWGarage is doing is nothing new, if he is infact doing what ya'll are potentially accusing him of doing.

[silverarrow27]

Wait so is posting in the WTB section the lazy way of doing it??

Let us please not forget that the "search" function on Zilvia is the biggest fucking joke in the world.

Go complain to the Admins to do something about it? :confused:

As for the WTB section, it could be for the lazies or could just be for someone impatient, or lastly someone need the part(s) immediately. Take your pick. It's not rocket science.

At the end of the day, if you're one of the three, regardless if you're paying more, less, or reasonable is up to you as the buyer to make that judgement. If you're too lazy to do some research on prices or too lazy to check your credit card/bank funds before sending money. Still the buyers fault.

In conclusion, all this thread basically brings to light is, DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH PEOPLE BEFORE PURCHASING THEN YOU WON'T COME ONTO FORUMS CRYING!

[rawgarage]

I have a full shop of parts and continuously buy to sell to others.

I also sell new parts from a list of wholesale accounts...

Check my reviews http://Facebook.com/rawgarageus


It's all to help ppl find the parts they want.

I buy low....try to sell high...

Seller wins.....buyer wins.... God forbid I win?

[rawgarage]

And as far as the lock I seriously couldn't find mine....wasn't going to send the seller a Google photo....

It will show up eventually mine is and 89-91 square one not the rounded one ....


Seller was trying to pay me before I even found it....

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/bwoodballa/2B5B3D65-8AD3-463B-B7A8-0E6CF4DE760A.png (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/bwoodballa/media/2B5B3D65-8AD3-463B-B7A8-0E6CF4DE760A.png.html)

[rawgarage]

It's crazy that I can connect a seller and a buyer for a price point that's good for both of them and handle all the logistics....

Kinda like Jesse Streeter but across the US.


There's tons of ppl who won't ship/don't have PayPal/ don't have a credit card.

My customers but from me because I make the process easy all around.

Critics will always be around and that's cool, but Keep in mind there are ppl who don't have time or the want to do it alone...

[SoundEfx]

I buy low....try to sell high...

Seller wins.....buyer wins.... God forbid I win?

I think this is the part that most people have the issue with because the buyer could have gotten it sometimes a little or more less. So some people consider this as the buyer being screwed.

[KAT-PWR]

What happens when the person you are buying from doesn't ship to the person you are selling to? Sounds like a real easy way to get upside down.

[ZenkiKid]

As long as said buyer gets his part I don't see the problem here. Then again this is the interwebz and people will bitch about the slightest thing.

Such is life.

Hes being an unintended broker and by doing so he making money off of the lazy. Then again theres a ton of people in the FS who are doing that now with their random "rare" YAJ stuff that theyre selling for top dollar.

He isnt doing anything wrong, its just kinda messed up morally thats all.

but hey, if all works out, go make your money man. Its the buyers bad for being lazy and willing to pay more.

[silviaks2nr]

Maybe Zilvia needs to update their for sale threads that requires usernames written on a sheet of something or whatever in their pictures with the parts/cars their selling. Only 99.9% of the other forums are already doing it. Technically you're still not being scammed if you still receive your part(s) or sell and you received actual $$$ in your account. Sounds like this thread is just a bunch of whiners and crying wolf.

This is a great suggestion and works very well on many other forums.

If he is not in possession of the item at the time of the transaction yet sells it as his, then he is conducting a really scummy operation. You can call him a broker or whatever sweet name, but in the end he is blatantly deceiving and lying to the buyer which should earn him a ban from viewing the marketplace.

The only way this practice would be acceptable is if he was honest and upfront about being only a middleman or if he bought the item up front and did not offer it to the potential buyer until it was physically in his ownership.

^^^

If you fucks really think this is a "broker" and a legitimate way to do things you really have your heads up your asses. He is conning the seller into divulging information that will later be illegitimately used and represented and lying to the buyer by not stating he does not have posession of the item at the time when he makes it out to be that way. If he does not have the parts in his possession at the time of the sale and the photos are not his, this is a scam... "shops" that do this sort of thing take shortcuts elsewhere generally too, like keeping money in the correct places and paying income tax.

Thank you to the OP for the heads up. Dealing with most people in the 240 world is shady enough these days; we should thank anyone who warns the rest of the community about this sort of practice.

It's crazy that I can connect a seller and a buyer for a price point that's good for both of them and handle all the logistics.....

Um, what? You're not connecting anyone. You're pretending to be two parties at the same time.

[dsastr_clan]

And as far as the lock I seriously couldn't find mine....wasn't going to send the seller a Google photo....

It will show up eventually mine is and 89-91 square one not the rounded one ....


Seller was trying to pay me before I even found it....

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/bwoodballa/2B5B3D65-8AD3-463B-B7A8-0E6CF4DE760A.png (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/bwoodballa/media/2B5B3D65-8AD3-463B-B7A8-0E6CF4DE760A.png.html)


if you are indicating that the item is in your position and it isn't, then. You are being a bit fraudulent, are you hustling? yes, are you being honest? no. Why aren't you honest about it, and offer your services as a broker services or some shit like that, and stop trying to rip the buyer and the seller off. If you are in the WTB or FS sections is because you are looking to sell your items not make profit off the venue in the sense that you are doing it.

We are a community, if you are trying to help, like you say that you are. Why not link the buyer and seller? Otherwise, you fall under the category of a business, and businesses are not allowed on those 2 sections. :2c:

[KAT-PWR]

I thought zilvia had the whole 'no listing for a friend' 'must be in possession of items you're selling' clause.
Maybe that's for the other vbulletin forum I'm on.

[derass]

...are you hustling? yes, are you being honest? no...If you are in the WTB or FS sections is because you are looking to sell your items not make profit off the venue...

We are a community, if you are trying to help, like you say that you are. Why not link the buyer and seller?

Exactly this.

On the topic of community, don't buy these cars to to flip them. Thank you.

[Corbic]

Exactly this.

On the topic of community, don't buy these cars to to flip them. Thank you.

Shut the fuck up.


Honestly, fuck all you Bernheads.

I've never dealt with RAWGarage but he has hit me up.

Until someone can prove the guy took their money and don't deliver you have no room to bitch. He's offering a service - you want part, he finds it and offers it.

Don't like his price? Don't buy it.

As far as risk of him giving you junk or nothing at all, it's no different than any other seller. That's why you use fucking PayPal and that's why PayPal fucks us all in the ass with fees...

[FaLKoN240]

You guys are some of the biggest cry babies in the world.

I'm not going to ban him or mark him as a scammer.

Some of the SELLERS on this forum are the worst: not bumping threads, not posting items as sold, not posting pictures. In general not following the rules.

BUYERS on this forum are absolutely TERRIBLE: not searching for the items they want, crying about people's pricing, bumping 2+ year old threads instead of just PMing the OP.

RawGarage goes about it the right way, he doesn't bump old ass posts or do any dumb shit like that. And if I'm looking for a rare part and he's able to find something I can't find, I wouldn't mind paying a little extra on top for his service. ESPECIALLY if I'm in a pinch.

If you don't like his price he gives you, DON'T BUY from him.

I've personally purchased things to resell NUMEROUS times. It doesn't make you a bad guy as long as the buyer is happy in the end.

[Corbic]

I thought zilvia had the whole 'no listing for a friend' 'must be in possession of items you're selling' clause.
Maybe that's for the other vbulletin forum I'm on.

Shrug. We certainly have lax listings. Other places require pictures with your SN, mod approval etc.

Gunforms are extremely formal. When someone says "I'll take it", that's it. Sale is done. They pay and you ship.

While Zilvias bad, Porsche forums are worse. Typical transaction is "I'll take it! PM sent!" only for the guy to want to renegotiate or spend days asking for more pictures etc.

[Juantwo3]

cant knock someones hussle.

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[derass]

Shut the fuck up.

Woah. Relax.

[KiLLeR2001]

I'm really getting tired of seeing the messages "I got what you need" and then days later the OP posts again "still looking".

[rawgarage]

I'm really getting tired of seeing the messages "I got what you need" and then days later the OP posts again "still looking".

They usually want it for free....


I had that response

Programmed to the "I have what you need, text me 9792366891"

"iii" key on my phone .... Switching up now

[billyblaze]

Drop shippments

Most businesses work this way
They dont have it in inventory but it ships
From wherever its at

Very common
Im pretty sure most things we get are drop shipments

As long as you get what you pay for whats the problem

Im sure if you researched what you bought in the past
Im sure alot of what we buy actually aint in inventory

Drop shipments
You be suprised

[PPman]

I bought a few things from RAWgarage no complaints actually happy with the deals so far. Just an example if you go to a shop, store, etc and you buy something from a catalog, order something that will come in a few days later, or can only be shipped and is not in stock... guess what happened there they acted as brokers and bought it at a lower price than what they sold it to you... weird tire sizes, wheels, you name it that's the way most businesses work.

Again if you feel he is ripping you off just pass on his offer why cry about it?

[RaNMaN]

Make sure you go after amazon and wal-mart next cause ya know they're just middle men too.

Please take macroeconomics, demand and supply determine price.

I'm sure it's a pain the ass, I actually kinda admire him for his hustle.

[FaLKoN240]

Yeah the last couple of posts in here really brought it home.

If you guys don't understand how big retailers work, go read a book.

Cry scammer once you don't get what you paid for.