I need to figure out what my car might sell for.

[Shin_Kudo]

This is a very sad post for me, but I'm afraid that the time may be near to sell my S14. I'm not quite ready yet, but I'm hoping I can get some idea of what it might go for, so I can decide whether to sell or whether to just start "throwing money at it". I'll proceed to describe the car.

(Condition on a scale of poor-fair-good-excellent)
1995 240SX Base
5SPD swap (Problems described later)
Pearl White Metallic - Paint in good condition, no peeling, no clearcoar problems, etc.
Body is in good shape. Dents and scratches expectable from a 10 year old car.
Engine in good condition. Pulls strong, runs well, no complaints.

Mods
TEIN HE
Cusco CF Strut Bar
5Zigen FN01R-C Hyperblack 17x7 (F) 17x8 (R)
RS*R EXMAG 80mm
K&N panel filter
Sparco Speed
Sparco Clubman 4pt harness.
RAZO Type 300 knob.
Falken GR-B
NaVaN Zenki wing (Not installed or painted)
Pioneer CD player.

Problems:
Tranny swap was done wrong. It's not a big issue, I just don't have the tools or the knowledge to make it right. Until it's fixed, it'll burn clutches. Well, at least that's what I think, maybe I'm just a really horrible driver.....

Synchros are a little messed up. Car grinds a bit shifting to 3rd. Could just be a symptom of the bad install.

One brake has a little scratch. Seems *someone* moved my car with the E-brake on at some point. Only effect is a little bit of annoying noise on occasion.

Pics at the link in my sig.

[Brian]

$4500


maybe a bit higher.

[holisticbeatz]

4000 even!

[Brian]

$3750
because of tranny problems!

[holisticbeatz]

$3001 because the synchros and the flux capacitor isn't in good condition.

[Brian]

damn i want this!

i'm goin out on a limb...

$2875
cash!
out the door!

[holisticbeatz]

It's mine! But but..

I can't give you more than $2054 for it.

I'll give it to all in cash and welfare checks!

and I'll even tow it from you

[Shin_Kudo]

.....4500? You just want the car back, don't you?

Seriously, I know you never get as much as you've put into the car, but, hell, that's less than I paid for the car six months ago! And I've put 5 grand or so into the car, not counting the work its already had. (Hell, it's essentially the same as a 5speed swap, it just needs a piece or two taken out and put in right.) I've spent close to 13 grand on this car, if it's really only worth a third of that, I'm sure as hell not selling it.

Haha, 2054... My rims and tires cost close to that!

Seriously, though, what would it be worth if I took care of the tranny?

[Brian]

how the hell did you put that much money into it already?
and no, you wont get back what you put in.
an honest opinion, i wouyld say you could get $5000 for it max.

[SoCalS14]

Just remember, you can always start HIGH and go low (I wish it worked the other way)...clean the car really well, and pump the price a little. Wait for some young kid to offer you cash and run...

[Shin_Kudo]

how the hell did you put that much money into it already?
and no, you wont get back what you put in.
an honest opinion, i wouyld say you could get $5000 for it max.

Well, like a grand for the tranny swap, plus about 500 each for the first two clutch jobs, a grand for the third.

120 a piece for tires - 480
about 225 a piece for rims - 1k
600 for exhaust
400 or so for seat
100 for harness

So that's like 5 grand right there, brings the total to about 10,500. Plus misc work, fluids, filter, parts, etc. Maybe it's closer to 11k that I've put into it.

If I'm gonna get that little for the car, I guess I just have to find some way to get an SR in there and keep it, no idea how I'll pull that off, though...

[Vatche]

wear and tear dont count..... and 5 speed swap dont count.....cuz u can buy a stock 5 speed for around same price....600 for exhaust is worth 100 400 for seat could be resold for like 200-300 used depends.....put stock seat back in....rims same idea prolly sell better alone harness wont be worth much....therefore u lose all the money u put into it.....

thats why any money i put into my car.....ILL NEVER SELL IT!!!!! MUHAAHHAHAHAH

[dct223]

miles on it???? my guess is you could get somewhere around 4.5-5g's. I bought my 95 base for 5,700 but it had factory SE options like a VLSD and moon roof, premium sound etc... also had 100k miles when i got it, and was in great condition, almost no dings

but yea u never know... a friend of mine sold his stock 95 SE for 5200 i believe, he had 135,000, no vlsd and the body needed a lot of work and the paint was gone... window didnt work.... just depends on the buyer... just stay firm on a price and dont get suckered in people who low ball...

u should put everythignn back to stock and sell ur car as stock as possible... and part out all the aftermarket...

[aznpoopy]

if its got transmission problems that eats clutches $3500 tops... that is not really a 'minor' problem, esp if you don't *really* know whats wrong with it yet. if you can fix the tranny it could get 5000+ pretty easily. if i were you i'd put the stock wheels back on and the stock suspension ... sell those seperately. hell stock muffler, etc... everything stock that you can put back on, put it on. you'll make alot more money selling the car + the parts seperately.

btw how many miles on the coilovers? sell me the suspension, exhaust and wheels! j/p :P.

[Shin_Kudo]

I'm just gonna keep it. It really doesn't make sense to sell it. Besides, I don't have my stock stuff, sold some, and other stuff is trashed.

So...... SR, here I come!

[kingsol]

good idea, because once you start putting money into your car you're always going to lose out on the sale

[Dousan_PG]

5k MAX
MAX!!

[cr00k_lyn]

5k MAX
MAX!!

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[proj240sx]

ive seen some pretty ghetto s13s with mad jdm tyte convos and sr20s with some crack head paint jobs go for 7-8k to idiots that are out there willing to jump on the bandwagon and buy..just be patient man..

btw..if you are one of those idiots, maybe you are just lazy and have a lot of money :fawk:

edit: one of those cars include one crashed in the front and shitty silvia convo thrown on, sr20 ran like ass, and half paint half primer, 7k :doh:

[orion::S14]

Well, like a grand for the tranny swap, plus about 500 each for the first two clutch jobs, a grand for the third...

Dude...you can't add the repair stuff it took to keep it going...even the 5-speed swap is a "sunk" cost.

You have to compare the car to what others similar go for.

A stock '95 5-speed base goes for $4000 or so arounf here, if it's in decent condition.

Then add a little for the big mods, if you can find someone who can appreciate the changes:

TEIN HE = New $1150
5Zigen FN01R-C Hyperblack 17x7 (F) 17x8 (R) = $800 new
RS*R EXMAG 80mm = ???, maybe $500
Sparco Speed = $350...???
Sparco Clubman 4pt harness... = $150
Falken GR-B = Tires are a wear item, and you can't sell a car w/o them...can't count that cost.
NaVaN Zenki wing (Not installed or painted) = $150-200

So that's $3200 or so in aftermarket stuff that someone may be interested in...as a rule of thumb, you get back very little of that money...half would be good for you, the seller.

So $4000 for the car, plus $1600 for mods...then back out a few hundred for the bad synchros...

There you go, a little over $5000 is a fair price, like it or not.

It makes NO difference how much you've spent...it only matters what it would cost to duplicate that car for someone else if they could buy all the stuff used.

I've got a '79 Pinto that I have $14,000 invested in a factory restoration...and it's worth $1500 on the market. Nothing you can do to change that...unless you find a sucker.

- Brian

[Shin_Kudo]

Yeah, you're right, that's why I'm not selling it.

[DoriftoSlut]

How much did that extra rear camber mod cost?

Tee hee hee hee hee.

You will lose so much money selling it. How do install a tranny to burn up clutches? I dont think it has much to do with the install. Maybe you put in the throwout bearing backwards... twice? Haha i dunno man, i've never head of that "problem" with a 5 spd swap.

[Shin_Kudo]

I didn't do it, my idiot mechanic did. What they told me at Nissan was that it was a cheap conversion, and that adjusments needed to be made to stop the burning were unable to be made. Still, they helped it some, it seems much better now.

[coldfire07]

Mods retract value from a car instead of adding to it. Personally, I would NEVER buy a car that had been modded because it's obvious the previous owner drove it hard. Combined with the problems you described, I would say $3500, TOPS, unless you score a dumb buyer.

Now, if you were to remove all of your mods and replace them with their stock counterparts, you could probably still sell the car at $3500 and make quite a bit more selling the mods to other 240sx drivers.

[Shin_Kudo]

Well, I'm flipping around once again. I think I will sell my car stock and part out the mods. I'm planning to put the 3500 towards an S13, I should be able to find a nice enough one for 1500 or so, and put the money from my mods into some used coilovers and wheels and an SR.

[Brian]

i'll give ya $3000 with the Tein HE.
everything else can be stock.

[Shin_Kudo]

Already got a likely buyer for the HE, sorry. If not, 3 is too low, I could probably get 3500 stock.

[Apollyon]

my buddy just sold his 96 pearl white for $6500. far less modded than yours.

[wootwoot]

you could get 3500 stock if it had a transmission that worked.....

[Shin_Kudo]

Hey, I'm still holding out hope that I may be able to get a good price for my car, stock. Hell, 5000 isn't unheard of.

One thing I'm thinking of is maybe putting off the SR for a little while, so I can get an LSD.

[holisticbeatz]

Hey Max, can I borrow your Sparco seat?

[Brian]

i'll buy the car for $3000 firm.

[silviasichigo]

KEEP it you will be glad that you did.

[Shin_Kudo]

Hey Max, can I borrow your Sparco seat?

No, it's going to go straight into the new car.

[Shin_Kudo]

i'll buy the car for $3000 firm.

Returned to stock or with all the mods?

[240niz]

I wanna say between 3500 to 4000.

[Shin_Kudo]

Well, I've decided what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna keep my car, and work a couple months until I can afford an S13. Then, I'll sell all my mods from the S14 and drive it until I've gotten the SR into the S13. Then I'll sell the S14 and use that money to mod the 13.

[Dousan_PG]

christ finally
this is some shitty drama im reading here. killing me

sr meh...i heard its for pansies or something
rock stock. i heard its the shit.

s14 to s13
haha...smart move.


not.

[mike13]

this kid apparently has no idea what he's doing, i dont know why you people keep posting...

first things first.. decide whether you want to keep it or not. then talk about sr's and lsd's. i will bet $50 that you get neither.

[mike13]

one more thing, i've said it before, i'll say it again. take the value of your car and subtract the amount of money you spent modding it. thats how much its worth realistcally. yes, i'm well aware that the number most of you came up with is in the negative.
i have a 25k plan in place for my s14. I've already spent about 15. I know without a doubt my car, no matter how sick and fun to drive it will be, will never sell for 25k. thats why i plan on driving the living hell out of it on a track when it retires off of the street. and hopefully i'll have the satisfaction of drifting my worthless 25k machine into a wall. :hug:

[The Hamsterball]

you're spending your money on all the wrong areas.

you have an f'd up transmission (who knows, it maybe f'd up just as it is even if it's installed correctly due to damage from driving it like that) and you're thinking of buying an LSD??

you should probably just get some friends to help you out, put the car on jackstands, and re-install that transmission..

what confuses me is how you spent money on 2 clutch jobs (you seem to be the type of person that doesn't work on their car by themself so i'm gonna say you spent about $450-650 on clutch repairs) instead of spending that $600 on getting somebody to install your transmission right.
the funny thing is, don't they take off your transmission to replace the clutch? why would they replace the clutch without getting the transmission on right?

You should honestly put everything aside, and get your transmission fixed no matter what you do with your car. I dont know how it's installed incorrectly (didn't put the transmission mounts correctly, whatever it may be), but get it done whether or not you keep or sell the car.

After that, then you can decide what to do.. because you sure as hell will get lowballed for having an f'd up transmission if you try to sell it like that anyways.

Learn to spend your money correctly.. I don't know anybody who would buy exhaust (which doesn't really do much for your car anyways.. except if you have SR i guess), seats, $1100 suspension and other things.. while ignoring a major problem such as your transmission.

get your sh*t straight please..

good luck

[Shin_Kudo]

I already had all my mods before the transmission went in.

Here's the main reason I can't keep this car: My parents bought it for me, and registered it in their name. I can't do anything with it without their permission. That's why I'm buying an S13, because it's a car I'll be able to afford with my own money. I need a car that will be my own, both so I can mod it how I want, and so I can push it on the touge and drift it without worrying about having it taken away if I fuck up. Plus, I'd like to be able to do my own work on the car, I really like working on cars, and have done a lot on my friends' cars, but my parents insist on taking the S14 to professionals every time, and won't let me do anything myself.

Because I'll be able to drive my S14 until the S13 is ready, I'm going to get an S13 rolling chassis and drop the SR in, which will save a huge amount of money.

Additionally, I'm getting an S13 because it's much cheaper to fix, as there are tons of them in the yards, and I've found myself continually more and more attracted to their appearance as time has gone on.


The reason I keep having these clutch jobs is because I can't find a shop to take the car to, who will do things right. I've come on these forums several times, asking for recommendations of a shop, or even someone who can help me out, and, while I've gotten plenty of speculation as to the problems, I can never get anybody to recommend a shop.

Now, if someone can recommend for me anywhere I can do the swap job, I'd appreciate it. I plan to do as much of the work myself as I can, but I need a location where can work. Is there maybe some place where I can work after hours, or where I can maybe rent out some space for a weekend or two. And if anyone's willing to help, it goes without saying that I'd be greatly appreciative.

[Daniel]

why do you prefer the s13 over your own? (from owner of an s13)

[The Hamsterball]

Alright, well I still find it hard to believe you don't know how to look for a shop to do work on your car.

Just take it to any auto shop that works on Nissans. Get that transmission re-installed.
Just cuz i'm nice, here's the # for a mechanic. His shop is in garden grove and his name is Lin. (714)-638-1116. He worked on my car before I bought it from the previous owner (hehehe, the previous owner paid for that maintenance he did), and I am pretty sure he will be able to re-install your transmission for you.
Just to get you an idea of how much he charges, he charged my previous owner $70 for replacing both radiator hoses (and flushing coolant while doing this) instead of something like $200 (which is what stupid 76 service shops try to charge).

That's just one mechanic, there's a hell of a lot more.. so it doesn't really matter which one you go to as long as you're sure they can get the job done.


2nd, it's pretty wasteful to give up your S14 for an S13 just because the car's in your parent's name. It's pretty modded out for what it is, even though your parents won't let you do anything to it.. so what's the point? you already have a car to work on and don't have to pay a shitload of money to buy a 2nd car.

It's going to cost your $1700 to get a decent condition S13 (if you're lucky in socal).. when it will probably cost you $200-300 to re-install your transmission in your S14.

Don't think about swaps right now man.. or drifting in touge. shiet.. nobody drifts in the mountains (i'm not telling which one f-ers), they just do grip runs. Except for a few select experienced people (*cough Dousan, who lives near me but i never see himn *COUGH*)..

I'm telling you man, just keep this car and learn to drive it. (it would have been better to learn from a completely stock car.. but oh well) Get used to it and practice gripping before trying drifting..
And you don't need an SR or any swap. If your KA is working, there's no need to swap it. That's just wasteful thinking in my opinion.
Just run it till it dies..

It will save you the most money and be a smaller pain in the ass if you just be happy with your S14 (believe me, no S13 owner on here would give a fuck if they had a nice S14 with your mods that was registered under their parents name. If it can drive, it's fine).. it's a better chassis, newer body, less problems..

It took me 7 months to find my S13 (without getting raped or screwed with a bad deal or f'd up car). Im not saying it will take you that long, but it will be a big hassle.. too many costs involved (checking out a shitload of cars that you won't end up buying)..
And even if you find a good deal, it's still gonna have problems (more than S14.. believe me).. hell, mine was running fine when i checked it out (2 days of checking the car out thoroughly).. and recently my IACV took a shit on me, and I found out that my open differential hasn't been serviced for a damn long time (except till after i bought it) and this caused it to get f'd up. It works, but it won't for long ( i say a year at most)..
this is just one example of what you're going to deal with.

It's like buying a 2nd money pit my friend. Not even worth it, ESPECIALLY if you already have a car. If you're really whiny about having the car under your parent's name.. just friggin transfer the title to your name after you turn 18 (which they shouldn't have any problem with as long as you're responsible).

Just to recap.. the best thing to do with the least amount of money spent is to keep your damn car.
- fix transmission
- just drive it.. no need for any more mods. you already have coilovers, seat, exhaust (useless), and a damn good chassis.
just drive the f'ing car and learn on it..
- transfer title when you turn 18

instead of :
- paying $1600 for another problem
- selling your car and losing money on it, even if you part it out.
- wasting money on fixing up another money pit that has no difference from your car than being older, different style, different (in some opinions, worse handling ability) drivability when you already have a good car. (i'm not sayin i hate s13's.. it just seems wasteful to give up an s14 for an s13)

Look at me, i juss bought my car 2 months ago (first car y0.. when im almost 19 :().. and i've only done maintenance on it. it's bone stock (except for shit knob, and re-adjusted throttle cable)..
i still drive in the mountains.. because i want to learn how it drives stock and move to mods LATER (*hint, no engine swap for a LONG TIME)..
i haven't even drifted it much.. i'm only concentrating on gripping and i do a tiny bit of drifting in big open parking lots sometimes..

Take it slowly man.. youll end up doing something you regret.

Good luck