View Full Version : F20 s13??
drftwerks
08-30-2004, 10:52 PM
I think it would be a pretty rad (lack of a better word) swap, 240 hp, relaibility, smog legal (more than a sr), and best of all 9,000 RPM Red Line, i mean its of course better than a NA SR, but the s13 (coupe) is probably jsut as light asa S2K so what do you think?
Bryon
(not commercial, lol)
aim - drftwerks
nismo skyline
08-30-2004, 11:01 PM
the f20c is torqueless, and we all know torque=fun
this has been done already. some dude in texas
RedSuns
08-30-2004, 11:18 PM
255hp....148ft-lbs
not worth it at all
RedSuns
08-30-2004, 11:19 PM
this has been done already. some dude in texas
i hope you are joking
drftwerks
08-30-2004, 11:30 PM
ok same tq as twin cam ka, put a sc on it then what?
RedSuns
08-30-2004, 11:36 PM
ok same tq as twin cam ka, put a sc on it then what?
and an s13 SR at 14psi will still move faster....
drftwerks
08-30-2004, 11:41 PM
haha yea,i dont know i jsut like NA
AKADriver
08-30-2004, 11:53 PM
The 240SX is too heavy to really make use of the F20C. Considering we weigh about the same as an S2000, the result is... a car that accelerates like an S2000 (good, but not blistering) and handles like a 15 year old car (again, good, but not blistering).
The F20C would BAD ASS in a super light little car like an AE86, 510, Starlet, etc.
OptionZero
08-30-2004, 11:54 PM
because...?
stinky_180
08-31-2004, 12:08 AM
i hope you are joking
He isn't joking, I saw this a thread on Freshalloy about a few months ago showing the Honda powered 240sx.
Also there is Honda powered Toyota Corolla GT-S
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=883383&page=1
yup the f20 86 is in the same town as me!
AKADriver
08-31-2004, 12:36 AM
that's what I'm talking about. F20C in an AE86 is a GOOD idea. Those cars came with a 112hp/105lb-ft 1.6L stock. The F20C is a huge power and torque increase.
SW20Racer
08-31-2004, 01:33 AM
it is a huge increase for the 86 yes, but for all the money you spent on that total swap you could put in a hybird 4ag and get the same-if not better- results cheaper...
edit: im not saying the swap isnt cool or anything dont get me wrong, i like the innovation behind it, but there are more cost effective ways to achieve the same end. cool? yes. practical? not even a little bit.
mav1178
08-31-2004, 01:36 AM
What would be perfect (and street legal) is a F20C engine w/ Comptech supercharger.... drop the weight of the S13 by 200-300lbs, perfect time-attack car.
-alex
nissandrift
08-31-2004, 07:30 AM
nothing compares to the KA-t that my freind is putting into his 86, suprisingly the KA is only like 20 or so pounds heavier than the 4ag.
Mr. Badlose
08-31-2004, 10:34 AM
I think it's a good idea, making the swap complete could be a nightmare though.
Reliable engine, high-rev power. Would be fun. Like Alex suggested, a charger would seal the deal.
drftwerks
08-31-2004, 10:36 AM
yea gabes car is sooo nice, and you can never build a 4ag i dont care wich, to make as much power w/ reliability, as a stock or near stock F20C.
Bryon
Rennen
08-31-2004, 11:26 AM
What would be perfect (and street legal) is a F20C engine w/ Comptech supercharger.... drop the weight of the S13 by 200-300lbs, perfect time-attack car.
-alex
close.....
What would be perfect for the s2k engine would be a Lotus Super 7 replica body by Caterham or someone, perfect everything-racing car :) .... until it rains.
like this:
http://members.rennlist.com/tweedt/s2khoodup.jpg
On a slightly related note, I picked up a copy of SCC the other day. They did a "time attack" :rolleyes: what a bunch of pussies. NO pushrods, NO flat 6s. Sounds like someone was scared of real cars.
HyperTek
08-31-2004, 11:45 AM
id rather 13bt rotary into s13. or sr20 into s30 (my dream) over an f20 int0 s13 (id rather have the s2k that it comes in)
wootwoot
08-31-2004, 12:52 PM
th new lotus elise should have used the f20c. one thing though, is that engine code still used? i mean it is a 2.2l now
OptionZero
08-31-2004, 01:06 PM
i dont think it would work in the elise, the elise is MR...unless u had a custom drive train for the F20 to drive the rear wheels while being right behind the driver
AKADriver
08-31-2004, 01:33 PM
It's F22C for the 2004 S2000 (identifiable by the gold valley cover).
The K20A/K24A transmissions can be adapted to the F20C/F22C. The Elises he's talking about used 200hp K20As, though. They were private imports of the 2nd gen Elise into the US before it was officially released here with a Toyota 2ZZ-GE. In Europe they used a Rover engine.
That super seven is the PERFECT place to put an F20C.
drftwerks
08-31-2004, 04:25 PM
yea that super 7 rocks
RedSuns
08-31-2004, 09:54 PM
He isn't joking, I saw this a thread on Freshalloy about a few months ago showing the Honda powered 240sx.
Also there is Honda powered Toyota Corolla GT-S
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=883383&page=1
man....some people
drftwerks
08-31-2004, 10:00 PM
there is also a F20 powered 510, soo nice, ill try to find pics and stuff.
the240sxer95
09-01-2004, 03:23 AM
yeah i would love a NA 240.. mMmmm ITB's! but the cost is dammm crazy! might as well go KAT for more power and less cost :)
F3600
09-01-2004, 06:38 AM
damn at first i was thinking you were all talking about the FJ20DET lol... that would be nice in an s13 but not a f20C ...
KA24DESOneThree
09-01-2004, 02:00 PM
That looks like Qualcomm in the background of the Super Seven pic.
theres a F20 powered FC too
AutoDestruct
09-02-2004, 07:29 AM
On a slightly related note, I picked up a copy of SCC the other day. They did a "time attack" what a bunch of pussies. NO pushrods, NO flat 6s. Sounds like someone was scared of real cars.
No. . . I think they were "trying" ;) to stick with Sport COMPACT Cars. I think. . . I don't know.:)
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