S14 Sunroof Trim On Going Problems

[street_sleeper]

SO I have been doing a lot of research in my spare time over the years and finally am in a position to make the move to possibly make this happen. Many people have talked to companies that "may" make the ever elusive trim piece that Nissan "never" made for separate sale from the sunroof bc it comes as a whole unit. I have confirmed with a local company here in Austin TX that they are willing to take on the challenge of remaking this god like piece of freaking fiberglass trim.

After R&D is complete I will report back and continue to update this thread. The rubber weather stripping is still available for sale through Nissan (thank goodness). So, once the mold is made (that's the expensive part) and we test it out here locally for a few weeks (stress test, weather test and so on) I will bring back hopefully positive results and have a drop in solution.

I plan on selling a kit (sunroof trim, weatherstripping, adhesive and install instructions) along with a YouTube how to. I know many people have tried their hand at this but I am going to give it my best along with a semi well know drifter in PRO2. If all goes well, we will finally have the solution to the on going problem.

[street_sleeper]

Feel free to chime in on what you think a reasonable price would be for this all-in-one kit should cost. Any other ideas are welcomed.

[Kis4Kouki]

I would be interested in buying a kit if you made one considering the on in my kouki is on its last leg.

[street_sleeper]

That's the goal is to create a drop in solution. Now there will be a little work required on the buyers part to follow the instructions we outline and proper cleaning of the glass prior to install. We are currently trying to find a sunroof with the trim still intact so I can send it off to the molding company to have the prototypes made for initial testing.

[street_sleeper]

I would be interested in buying a kit if you made one considering the on in my kouki is on its last leg.

Side note I'm from Greensboro originally!! If we can get these kits tested and proven that they work I'll get you one out to High Point and you can spread the word for us out here in Texas

[KiLLeR2001]

Easier solution: Sell the car. Buy a hardtop.

[Kis4Kouki]

Yeah dude that would be great. Definitely have some friends that would be interested too.

[simmode1]

You'll be my hero. Hope this works out.

[street_sleeper]

Easier solution: Sell the car. Buy a hardtop.

I expected comments like yours. But yes, that is an option.

[2muchboost]

Awesome man keep us posted. I am in S. Austin so I wouldnt be too far to pick one of these up. And as far as buying a clean, unmolested, NON-SUNROOF Kouki these day.....its like asking to find a gem. Is it possible..sure. Is it likely...good luck.

[street_sleeper]

Awesome man keep us posted. I am in S. Austin so I wouldnt be too far to pick one of these up. And as far as buying a clean, unmolested, NON-SUNROOF Kouki these day.....its like asking to find a gem. Is it possible..sure. Is it likely...good luck.

AWESOME!! Yeah I am trying to hunt down a "donor" sunroof with the trim intact. I have a few friends that are inspecting their 240s and getting back with me. The fiberglass company said as long as they have all the pieces they can bond it back together for a complete trim piece.

So, that is why I want to hand them a sunroof with the trim intact so they can extract it themselves so that way if something does happen, they can fix it right then and there.

[street_sleeper]

Ill just say this that I am going to spend about $800-1000 for the prototype to be created. If it fails, well then I just pissed away all that money but at least we gave it a try and can confidently say that at least it has been attempted. If all goes well, I will have kits ready by the end of the year.

Price point is going to be tough in the beginning. Supply/demand, materials, production time, shipping cost will all be factored when it comes time. I know that companies makes carbon delete panels for $250-300. That is the number i believe it will end up being but you will be getting so much more than just a panel that you glue to your roof.

I am very confident that we may get this ball rolling. Again, any and all suggestions are welcome!

[AWD260R]

Good luck, last year I started to make a silicone mold for the bottom half and didn't continue because it has a natural bow to the trim piece and mine was already pieced together with 2 trims parts and it wouldn't make my standards so I scrapped my project and found a decent trim piece out in DFW. GL

[street_sleeper]

Good luck, last year I started to make a silicone mold for the bottom half and didn't continue because it has a natural bow to the trim piece and mine was already pieced together with 2 trims parts and it wouldn't make my standards so I scrapped my project and found a decent trim piece out in DFW. GL

Gotcha!! Thanks for the good wishes. The molding company said once they have their hands on it, they will decide what type of material to make it out of. Fiberglass seems to be what they are leaning on due to is form-ability, strength and durability.

[street_sleeper]

Ok people I had a chance to head out to a buddies house and get his sunroof off his parts car. It is 100% trim and glass intact. When I get a free chance in the next few weeks I will be taking it over to the molding company. Stay tuned guys.

[Kis4Kouki]

Sweet dude keep us posted on everything. Would love to get rid of my faded and separating fiberglass. Also that price point is good considering it will be a quality piece.

[jr_ss]

I'm interested...

[street_sleeper]

Sweet dude keep us posted on everything. Would love to get rid of my faded and separating fiberglass. Also that price point is good considering it will be a quality piece.

Thanks Kis. Knowing the avg 240 owner would rather $250-300 on a performance or body part I want it to be reasonable for a leaky sunroof/damaged sunroof repair. I very hopefully on this venture. And if it fails, well at least we tried.

[corby_baby]

something tells me this is actually happening ;)

[street_sleeper]

something tells me this is actually happening ;)

I hope so. Now I just have to find the time to get the sunroof over to the molding company.

I also was considering making a mold of an entire sunroof vs just the trim. Still an option. Just have to figure out how I would install the mounting studs ( like on the factory sunroof ) onto a piece of fiberglass but I'm sure they could help me figure that out

[PrimeDirective]

Everyone needs this. I would pay $150 for this if it comes with everything needed. If someone doesn't come up with a replacement trim soon, I think a lot of people will start looking for a sunroof delete plate as a plan B.

[X9C]

Everyone needs this. I would pay $150 for this if it comes with everything needed. If someone doesn't come up with a replacement trim soon, I think a lot of people will start looking for a sunroof delete plate as a plan B.

Lol $150, I'd pay $500...

[street_sleeper]

Yeah $150 is a bit low. Not to disrespect anybody and say that only the rich people can afford this but it's going to cost some money to get this done. If you think about your options it's either purchase a sunroof for $1000 that's no longer sold, pay for used one that's eventually going to deteriorate like your current one, or buy a sunroof delete For $250 and up.

I'm not trying to break the bank for everyone but it will be made of high quality materials I promise. I'm not cutting corners. I want this to be something that you take it out of the box ago holy shit this is great !!!

[pulsar]

If I may recommend, the best way to get this to be a worthwhile venture, it would be best to contact enjuku and 240sxmotoring.com and other reputable 240 sales company's, show them photo's of the manufactured pieces and see if they want to list it on their site as an available product. They just buy 10 from you to have in their stock.

[street_sleeper]

If I may recommend, the best way to get this to be a worthwhile venture, it would be best to contact enjuku and 240sxmotoring.com and other reputable 240 sales company's, show them photo's of the manufactured pieces and see if they want to list it on their site as an available product. They just buy 10 from you to have in their stock.

Great minds think alike. I'm already ahead of you on this. My partner in this is sponsored by Enjuku and once we have a product to bring to the table, if they want to sell it, I am having contracts drawn up for distribution rights at a set price for them to buy X number of units for one year. And then go back and renegotiate depending on sales

[street_sleeper]

Here is the donor glass

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/raylere/11986967_10152971226371688_5401095049397056734_n_z pskgzvraov.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/raylere/media/11986967_10152971226371688_5401095049397056734_n_z pskgzvraov.jpg.html)

[simmode1]

If this works out, can you please see if these guys want to reproduce Zenki clear lense headlight covers too? lol

[kyle1a2]

I like where this is headed. Put me on the list when this goes through!!

[Finite Performance]

I hope this works!

[street_sleeper]

Thanks for the support guys!!! I am tryin my hardest to make this a reality. Just keep any ideas in your head coming. Clear lenses is something we are also considering. Subscribe to this thread to stay up to date. I hope we can prove to anyone that has tried and quit or gave up.

[street_sleeper]

So I was thinking. Would you think people would rather pay say $450-500 for a drop in solution (with weatherstrip seal) or $250-300 for the fiberglass trim piece (which would require removal of old trim, cleaning and prepping of glass then install and cure time) and weatherstrip.

Thoughts?

[Kis4Kouki]

If the 450 option is literally unbolt and resemble yes. But if you have a good in depth install video i thing it would attract more diy type people to buy the 250 version.

[street_sleeper]

If the 450 option is literally unbolt and resemble yes. But if you have a good in depth install video i thing it would attract more diy type people to buy the 250 version.

Thanks for the feed back. Yeah we all are pretty much a diy owner. I guess I could make both. Or try to make both. That way there is the "cheaper" route and then the "expensive" route.

[EDacIouSX]

Great job on the trim, i'm looking forward to seeing what happens!

If this works out, can you please see if these guys want to reproduce Zenki clear lense headlight covers too? lol

why... they already sell those everywhere.

http://www.circuit-sports.com/collections/exterior-category/products/headlight-cover-nissan-s14-1995-96

[rodneyfromtrini]

I hope this works out because I have the same problem.
Please keep us posted!

[street_sleeper]

Great job on the trim, i'm looking forward to seeing what happens!



why... they already sell those everywhere.

http://www.circuit-sports.com/collections/exterior-category/products/headlight-cover-nissan-s14-1995-96

Yeah I knew they sold those still. I was just mistaken bc we are thinking about doing clear side marker lights for SC300/400's. So when he said "clear covers" my brain went somewhere else.

[simmode1]

Great job on the trim, i'm looking forward to seeing what happens!



why... they already sell those everywhere.

http://www.circuit-sports.com/collections/exterior-category/products/headlight-cover-nissan-s14-1995-96

Oh really?! Thank god. I didn't want to have to go kouki. I saw someone say in the Zenkis Unite thread that they were out of production & impossible to find now.

[street_sleeper]

Just keep in this thread active. Hope everyone had a good weekend

[240sxrb30]

I got a donor glass and trim I bought over a year ago I need to swap on but since I'm doing my swap and the cars outside I put it on the back burner. I'm down for a new replace trim and seal.

[EDT007]

Hey, any updates?

[street_sleeper]

Yes sorry for not posting sooner. I talked with the fabricator and he has been out on business in another state. He is returning this week and I will be heading up there to drop off the sunroof for molding.

[EDT007]

Hey, just checking again. Hope you got some good news for us!

[Kis4Kouki]

Any news for us. My sunroof trim finally decided to part ways on the highway. Really need a solution.

[street_sleeper]

Wow I have no idea why this didn't post. Anyway, GOOD NEWS!!!!! I have dropped the donor sunroof off at the fabricators for Initial R&D. He's willing to give it a shot and attempt to make a mold. He said that they may be other options but for now he's trying to recreate what we desperately need.

[awdxbppst]

Any updates?

I am interested and willing to help out to get this damn problem fixed. I am decent at CAD and have access to a 3d printer and Faro arm scanner, but not one with a big enough bed to print a full trim piece.

[street_sleeper]

The fab guy said he is still trying to find the right materials to re create it but still working on it

[Kis4Kouki]

Cool was really hoping this didn't die. Hopefully he will be able to have a solution for us.

[street_sleeper]

Yeah I dropped it off a few weeks ago and he said that he would mess with it from time to time because he had other larger projects

[cnichols]

Put me down for 2 if this materializes at a reasonable price point.

[STEEZxIT]

im into this too.
my sunroof trim is starting to go, as are the rest of my glass trim

[xgeko2]

awesome I would totally be down for one of these if they come to market. Thanks!

[LoSt180]

Do you know what year your donor glass was out of? I know the 95 and 96+ glass can't be swapped with each other unless you swap the whole rack as well, some kind of mounting difference. Not sure if there's a difference in size of the glass itself. Probably worth validating. The glass and trim might be the same, but would probably effect your "drop in" replacement options.

I have a spare glass with busted trim sitting in my garage, subscribing for a solution.

[street_sleeper]

From looking at Nissan parts number the 95' vs the 96-98 does have a different part number. I will have to verify which glass I got. Pretty sure its a 96

[blueshark123]

I tried to make a trim and every company I worked with let me down at the end. Hope you get somewhere with this. Every s14 glass/ glass trim is the same btw.

[street_sleeper]

The issue at hand is that somewhere In the process of this being made at the factory, te glass is mounted to the sunroof "frame and then the fiberglass trim is attached permanently. The company is taking their time trying to figure out how to separate it from the glass.

[SoundEfx]

Ent that a byt$%....

I could only drive my car when it's sunny because some how the previous owner broke off piece....

I can't wait for this to be completed.

[msladypaula]

keep in loop. ive been plagued by a leaking sunroof for 2 years now...and everyone who swears they have a full assemlby is constantly jerking me.
so right now im in the junk or 95 sunroof, or something else that works right.
Perfer an option under $400 if possible. but an option of 800 isnt going to pan for me.

[street_sleeper]

We will definitely try to keep the cost as low as possible to where it is affordable for all owners. $200-400 is the goal.

[street_sleeper]

UPDATE!!!! UPDATE!!!!

I went back to the fab shop today and the guy told me he was having trouble separating the trim and didnt want to damage it as he knows how important this it. So I took it home and looked at it for like an hour. I finally figured out how to remove it in one solid piece!!! There are a few blemishes from removing the 20 year old rubber weatherstippring but all in all I can no go forward with getting this piece into a mold. Here are some shots from just a little while ago. I hope no one has given up on me, as I know many have tried and all have failed at trying to recreate this magical piece.

The way that I see this going is once the mold is made I will try them out of a handful of cars and test them. Car washes and daily use. If all goes well, then I will inform everyone of the news and do a how to video and install instructions. Once the trim is removed the glass with need to be thoroughly cleaned and I will try to supply the glue to bond the trim to the glass again. If not, I will include what I used to complete the repair.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/raylere/10391558_10153151039076688_910730540613024414_n_zp sexjy7hsr.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/raylere/media/10391558_10153151039076688_910730540613024414_n_zp sexjy7hsr.jpg.html)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/raylere/10365972_10153151039106688_6730269777861244938_n_z psqjnzr0wb.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/raylere/media/10365972_10153151039106688_6730269777861244938_n_z psqjnzr0wb.jpg.html)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/raylere/1927675_10153151039126688_3539142136683681788_n_zp swduxqhzx.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/raylere/media/1927675_10153151039126688_3539142136683681788_n_zp swduxqhzx.jpg.html)

[Kis4Kouki]

Awesome dude. Like I said in the beginning, I'll be more the happy to test it out. Got money ready for when the molds ready. It's been raining none stop over the last days and vacuuming water out has not be fun.


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[street_sleeper]

I know that the rubber weather stripping cost $100-110 from Nissan. I am trying to get in touch with someone that can help us out and give a massive discount bc I want to sell this thing for around $200-250 INCLUDING the weather stripping. Right now I am trying to hunt down a 3D printing company to scan this and make a new one for molding bc this fiberglass trim would fall apart in casting.

[simmode1]

Plz sir?
http://img.memecdn.com/shut-up-and-take-my-money_o_391729.jpg


My sunroof looks like an adhesive smeared bag of dust covered dicks.

[street_sleeper]

If anyone knows where to get a hold of the weatherstripping aftermarket, inbox me so I can get in touch or get that ball rolling

[street_sleeper]

plz sir?
http://img.memecdn.com/shut-up-and-take-my-money_o_391729.jpg


my sunroof looks like an adhesive smeared bag of dust covered dicks.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[Kis4Kouki]

Yeah I'm fine with the 100 dollar weatherstripping. Oem Nissan parts are awesome. Quality is suburb.


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[street_sleeper]

Yeah I'm fine with the 100 dollar weatherstripping. Oem Nissan parts are awesome. Quality is suburb.


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Im trying to gauge the correct price point for this. Would $250 be too much for this kit? Kit would include new trim, weatherstripping and adhesive with instructions

Feel free to chime in. i am just a guy trying to help our the community. Yes I will make some money off this but ultimately I just want this freaking problem solved!!!

[acslater9]

I would pay $250 for it. My trim is all messed up, lol.

[Kis4Kouki]

Yeah same here 250 is good with me


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[princequeeley]

Following as I unfortunately have a sunroof too lol

[fallen_51]

250 to solve this problem sounds fair to me !

[street_sleeper]

So $250 for a trim piece, weatherstrip, adhesive and institutions is the price tag?

[Burris167]

Would you sell it without the weatherstrip? I already have a new oem one laying around.

[street_sleeper]

Yes I am sure I will. I am really trying to just get a feel for what everyone is comfortable with as far as a price tag for a kit. So maybe $150-175 for trim and adhesive only

[street_sleeper]

Well sat down and had a brain storming idea. I am currently in talks with some 3D printing companies to see about getting this thing scanned. Because of its size, that is my current hold up. Also, the trim piece has a natural bow/arch to it so I cant just design a flat trim piece or else it would not have a true fit to the glass.

I am staying on top of this in my free time out side of work so just bear with me.

[street_sleeper]

Update........I dropped off the trim piece with a engineer that is going to create a rough draft digitally so I can submit it to different companies for rough estimate quotes for production. This will give me a round about idea of what it will cost to make,mold and ship. If all goes well, then I will commission the engineer to make a full on model for prototyping and testing.

Hang in there people. We have the technology, just need time and money.

[Kis4Kouki]

Cool. Hopefully everything goes well. Can't wait to not have a puddle of water in my floorboards


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[alwaysnboost]

Count me in as well!!

[bigjussin]

Awesome! My work might be able to mill one out of abs, and we work with another injection molder whom might be able to make this for us. If you have files you're looking for quotes on..lmk

[email protected]

[SoundEfx]

I'm in rainy WA, so this is VITAL!!! lol...

[street_sleeper]

I am having a guy here locally create a solid model in CAD and am in talks with Protolab in MN. Once I get the completed CAD, I am sending it off for quoting. Protolab will then create a prototype and send it back to me for test fitting and revisions. ONce I give them the green light, they said they will take 25% off the injection mold to retain my business. I will email you the file as well for quoting. Thanks for the help!!!

Awesome! My work might be able to mill one out of abs, and we work with another injection molder whom might be able to make this for us. If you have files you're looking for quotes on..lmk

[email protected]

[street_sleeper]

One thing I am having trouble finding is how many 95-98's were produced with a sunroof. I can find productions numbers for the # of cars made for America but not how many came with sunroofs. Any info you can find would be great.

[SoundEfx]

Why would you need that number? Shouldn't your production count be based on how many people want/need it rather than the total number of sun roof cars?

[street_sleeper]

The reason I need/want that number is to gauge what the maximum number is. Then do some rough math to guesstimate how many I will ultimately make. Let's say the total number is 10000. So in 20 years let's say there are only 1000 still on the road that have sunroofs. I could then let the company making them know how many to produce. There is a setup fee everytime I run a batch. I'm just looking for a numerical starting point.

The only people that currently know about this are the ones involved in this thread. So making 20 is a waste of money given the setup fee. I know there are probably 500-1000 poeple that actually need this part. Once the word gets out that these things exist, then I can cater to the individual but right now I'm thinking about the initial production run to cut down on cost which equals lower cost to the individual.

Why would you need that number? Shouldn't your production count be based on how many people want/need it rather than the total number of sun roof cars?

[SoundEfx]

That makes sense. I didn't know about the set up fee.

So while I'm at my lowest, let me ask this question.
I took a look at my sunroof and saw two different parts around the glass. I can't really explain it, but I'll try.

There is a thick piece around the glass itself and an additional small rubber piece surrounding that. My question is:
1. Are those 'two' pieces one or are they separate?
2. If they are separate, which one are you making?

There is a small gap at the back of the small rubber piece in my sunroof, is that normal?

[street_sleeper]

That makes sense. I didn't know about the set up fee.

So while I'm at my lowest, let me ask this question.
I took a look at my sunroof and saw two different parts around the glass. I can't really explain it, but I'll try.

There is a thick piece around the glass itself and an additional small rubber piece surrounding that. My question is:
1. Are those 'two' pieces one or are they separate?
2. If they are separate, which one are you making?

There is a small gap at the back of the small rubber piece in my sunroof, is that normal?

The thick, flat piece that goes around the glass is the trim piece that I am trying to recreate. The other piece is the rubber weather stripping.

They are separate. The trim piece was never made available for sale as it came as a complete assy with the sunroof. The weather stripping is still sold today. The small gap is normal as that is where the weather stripping begins and ends.

[SoundEfx]

Thanks for the update/info.
After looking at it again, I can see why this venture is such a headache. That piece is really on there.

[Mizer]

Count me in.

[LoSt180]

I hope you have an NDA in place with anyone you send that CAD file for quoting. A run of 500-1000 is probably a bit ambitious at this phase. You'll end up sitting on inventory for a long time trying to sell them, even worse is if one of the copy-cats comes out of the woodworks. A fairly small initial run could be helpful to gauge interest and ease of installation and any revisions necessary.

If you plan to sell these in large quantities, then you're going to need to vendors on board and some advertising. Basically, you'll have better luck selling a lot of these if it's available on rockauto, frsport, Courtesy Nissan, and any other vendor that sells replacement parts.

I have a spare sunroof with broken trim that I can help test fit with.

[street_sleeper]

I hope you have an NDA in place with anyone you send that CAD file for quoting. A run of 500-1000 is probably a bit ambitious at this phase. You'll end up sitting on inventory for a long time trying to sell them, even worse is if one of the copy-cats comes out of the woodworks. A fairly small initial run could be helpful to gauge interest and ease of installation and any revisions necessary.

If you plan to sell these in large quantities, then you're going to need to vendors on board and some advertising. Basically, you'll have better luck selling a lot of these if it's available on rockauto, frsport, Courtesy Nissan, and any other vendor that sells replacement parts.

I have a spare sunroof with broken trim that I can help test fit with.

Words of wisdom. The guy I have doing the CAD and the company all have NDA. I own the designs and mold but they own the process of how it is made (if I understood them correctly). Trying to figure out how many to make at first is kind of a guessing game at this point. I would say I could probably sell 100-200 which is I think a reasonable start. I have been in contact with some of the bigger companies to gauge interest but they want to see the final product before we talk numbers. I will probably just end up going through one or two companies due to the low amount of trims needed.

[SoundEfx]

The other question is concerning price wars.
If there are three places selling the same product, the cheaper will initially get most of the sales, but when they run out, the other 'stores/companies' could start charging what they want.

I really hope this doesn't happen, but business is business I guess.

[street_sleeper]

The other question is concerning price wars.
If there are three places selling the same product, the cheaper will initially get most of the sales, but when they run out, the other 'stores/companies' could start charging what they want.

I really hope this doesn't happen, but business is business I guess.

Well I will try to do my best to keep everyone's wallets in mind. I will probably just go with one company to keep it simple and easy and hopefully they won't price gouge. Or if they do t want to do business with me bc I am just an individual and not a major company. Either way, I'll start selling them on my own and if demand goes way up, then I'll look to partner.

[SoundEfx]

Cool man. Thanks for keeping us in mind.

[street_sleeper]

Update.....I just got the email with the CAD files to send of for prototype to get made.

[zenkicpe]

My trim had pulled off of the glass at about 55mph over the summer, it cracked in 2 places. I had it taped down for about a month before I pulled it off carefully, painstakingly cleaned all of the urethane residue off of the trim & windshield. Then I epoxied the trim back to 1 piece, prepped the glass and trim with wax and grease remover, and layed down a nice even layer of 3m window weld to the trim. Stuck the trim down over the glass and weighted it down with some 6x6 blocks of wood I had laying around. Trim resealed quite nicely and does not leak. i may be more fortunate than others in this thread, and yet I would still be interested in a new replacement! I hope it come to fruition. Thanks for you hard work!

[fastrax203]

Subscribed, definitely on my list of urgent things for the car haha

[street_sleeper]

I am still outsourcing to molding companies for the best pricing

[carlosrafa]

I want 2 please :eek: :hsdance:

[SoundEfx]

I want 2 please :eek: :hsdance:

The CA sun killed your moulding that bad?

[carlosrafa]

The CA sun killed your moulding that bad?

2 cars with the same problem jaja :(

[SoundEfx]

2 cars with the same problem jaja :(

Stop hoarding the S14's....lol

[SlidewayZenki]

Count me in!!! The Arizona sun has destroyed mine

[Kis4Kouki]

Any updates?

[street_sleeper]

Sorry guys been busy with things and also put it on the back burner for a few weeks. I do actually have in my possession a 3D model of the trim piece. I sent it to Protolabs and they said that it's going to cost $12.5k dollars for each mold to be made. I need two molds so that's $25k that I would need to make a production run.

My wallet is t that fat so that's why I put it to the side for now. I am currently getting my S14.5 back up an running so I have been spending time on it. If anyone knows of a company that can create this for less, let me know. So, I'm pretty sure this is why it has ever been attempted. Upfront cost is a mother fucker.

[Kis4Kouki]

Dang it. We really need a company to come through for us. I was really hoping to have a sunroof trim this summer.

[SoundEfx]

Thanks for getting the ball rolling though. Hopefully someone would come through.

[moebiius]

can you do this with a 3D printer?

[dwnshft2drft]

Dang! I just shaved mine. Too late :/

[billyblaze]

I to have a leaking sunroof

Need it fix before fresh paint

Will be watching

[Kis4Kouki]

Yeah. If you have the files from the scan for the prototype. We could try one of those 3D printer websites. Even if it's off the first few times, or if I need to trim, add material to make it work it would be worth it.

[Matthew169]

Sorry guys been busy with things and also put it on the back burner for a few weeks. I do actually have in my possession a 3D model of the trim piece. I sent it to Protolabs and they said that it's going to cost $12.5k dollars for each mold to be made. I need two molds so that's $25k that I would need to make a production run.

My wallet is t that fat so that's why I put it to the side for now. I am currently getting my S14.5 back up an running so I have been spending time on it. If anyone knows of a company that can create this for less, let me know. So, I'm pretty sure this is why it has ever been attempted. Upfront cost is a mother fucker.

Wow that's pricey. Might as well startup a gofundme or something along those lines. We need to get this going.. Me and my dad tried some generic molding with new adhesive and it's kind of coming along. But I just want to stop the leaks. I really hope this becomes a thing

[moebiius]

to whomever has the CAD drawings

http://www.quickparts.3dsystems.com/solutions/?gclid=CjwKEAiAo7C2BRDgqODGq5r38DsSJAAv7dTPk-ijlY4WB_iqrM13Sqtw8k1l8ze61u9zLLiFxF8snRoCdhHw_wcB

or contact this guy, he might just help us out!

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/sale-t4r-items/182525-fs-3d-printed-sr5-flare-caps-$80-3rd-gen.html

[billyblaze]

Question

Many parts are used on multiple vehicles

My question is

Is the 240 sunroof made for that only
Or was it also used on other nissan models

[SoundEfx]

Question

Many parts are used on multiple vehicles

My question is

Is the 240 sunroof made for that only
Or was it also used on other nissan models

That's a damn good point. I haven't heard of it being used on any other chassis, but hopefully I'm wrong.

[Rob's S14]

any updates on this?

[driftminds13]

Also in for updates. Figures upfront cost would be a shit-load. But if this manages to get going you can count me in for 2 minimum.

[Sforteen]

The sunroofs all leak from that seal, there not supposed to be water tight, if it leaks or you get water on you or in the car, its likely you have a clogged drain tube... there are 4 drain tubes.

[SoundEfx]

The sunroofs all leak from that seal, there not supposed to be water tight, if it leaks or you get water on you or in the car, its likely you have a clogged drain tube... there are 4 drain tubes.

Do you know where they are?
I ask because there is a huge gap in my sunroof seal and I'm wondering if that is a missing piece of rubber or if that is one of the drain openings.

[Agamemnon]

Do you know where they are?
I ask because there is a huge gap in my sunroof seal and I'm wondering if that is a missing piece of rubber or if that is one of the drain openings.

That gap in the seal towards the rear is supposed to be there. There's a drip pan below that gap that diverts water into the 4 drain tubes.

[DAGeorgie]

i just got my first s14 and that is the only bad exterior issue.. that trim piece, i thought it was aluminum lol. never looked close till i saw this thread.

[moebiius]

Anyone have a picture of that piece apart?

[97SerevoSX]

Bump, whatever became of this?

[street_sleeper]

Still waiting on two things.

1. Getting a large amount of money together to have an injection mold made. This is the hardest hurdle. Last quote was for $24k to have a mold make. I don't have that kind of play money but have been talking to investors over the past year. I have been trying to build a solid business plan so I can get Capitol from them upfront so that they have a good return on ivesrment.

2. I have the CAD models and files. I need them edited so that I can take them to a 3D printing company to have prototypes rendered.

[Nissan2nr22]

these would def sell

[moebiius]

so to whomever has the CAD drawings...may I have a copy? I will try my hand at 3D printing these...
Thanks!

[SoundEfx]

so to whomever has the CAD drawings...may I have a copy? I will try my hand at 3D printing these...
Thanks!

I doubt that they will be free.

[97nismo]

Question is how many cars still around need these ? And considering the low ballers on here doubt you would get that 24k back and then some...

[moebiius]

I doubt that they will be free.

I will pay for the CAD rendering assuming that it is legitimate otherwise I will source one and CAD it myself, but to whomever comes up with the drawing, I will provide a 3D printed piece as a payment or whatever you want that is reasonable

[97SerevoSX]

Is there no other Nissan with a similar enough sunroof to make a replica?

From what I can tell a 200sx looks pretty similar.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0cJSJlkZrxMc1FJR3hLN050STQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0cJSJlkZrxMc1FJR3hLN050STQ/view?usp=sharing

[silviaks2nr]

Has anyone found a press in universal trim that will sit between the glass and outer sunroof surround? Just looking for a quick fix for '97 with a leaky seal and inoperable sunroof.

[97SerevoSX]

Has anyone found a press in universal trim that will sit between the glass and outer sunroof surround? Just looking for a quick fix for '97 with a leaky seal and inoperable sunroof.

thats kind of where Im at too. That's why I have been looking at other Nissan vehicles. The 200sx is the only one that I think may work.
It's a shame someone couldn't just make a thick rubber or foam surround for them and just sealed it real well. I don't even really care that its perfect looking as long as its not an eye sore.. Though it can't get much worse looking than having no trim at all.

[LoSt180]

Has anyone found a press in universal trim that will sit between the glass and outer sunroof surround? Just looking for a quick fix for '97 with a leaky seal and inoperable sunroof.

The rubber seal itself is replaceable and you should still be able to buy replacements from Nissan. If your trim is in decent shape, then that should be an easy fix for a leaky sunroof.

[silviaks2nr]

The rubber seal itself is replaceable and you should still be able to buy replacements from Nissan. If your trim is in decent shape, then that should be an easy fix for a leaky sunroof.

I believe it's an aftermarket/dealer installed roof. Much bigger than OEM. The glass isn't pulled down tight enough to the seal underneath. Really I'm looking for a quick fix so I can sell the car, it's taking up space in my shop.

[Kegan240sxs14]

Anything happened after December of 2016 on the trims street sleeper, I just heard about you trying to make a miracle and the forum kinda just dead ends, but if your working on it cheers to you just keep me posted, I'll grab like 3 kits the day their made hehe
Ps from Port Arthur, Tx

[tmthydnns]

count me in as well my trim just blow off

[Frank_Jaeger]

Use a cheap handheld 3D scanner on a new OEM piece.
Create and clean up 3D mesh
Invert mesh and make a 3D printable mold.
Print mold, use.

Hurry up.

[stevenrapids]

Any update on access to the CAD drawing. Have access to a 3D printer and would like to see if I can get some made

[240boi115]

If this works out, can you please see if these guys want to reproduce Zenki clear lense headlight covers too? lol

I second this notion! man Id love to buy the covers! don't get me wrong glass is good but thy are getting harder to find as well

As for the sunroof id pay 200-300 bucks for something like this. I just spend 200 for a whole sunroof because my Fiberglass frame shattered -_- so Ill for sure be buying one or two of these as backups as I don't plan on selling my zenki anytime soon.

[stevenrapids]

@royalnatives on Instagram is making clear headlight lenses for zenkis that are good quality and reasonably priced already.

[dorkidori_s13]

$24k for an injection based mold is a bit nuts. there are 2 types of injection based molding, high pressure and low pressure. high pressure requires a metal based mold while low pressure can utilize a fiberglass based mold. you may want to look into a polyurethane manufacturer as they are a low pressure based mold and there are all sorts of different weights and flexibility to polyurethane mixtures. some are as flexible and soft as foam, others are as stiff as fiberglass. you could achieve a good seal with a soft polyurethane mixture.

one of the BIGGEST needs for new weather stripping is the outside of the S13 hatchback moonroofs! the ONLY way to get new moldings for it is to buy a brand new moonroof (which runs about $900 now if theyre still available in new old stock)... but the molding is preinstalled on the moonroof itself.

[Sidney_223]

any updates??

[zodpowercy]

Hi...there.A few days ago the fiberglass trim on my s14a sunroof broke and i don't know what to do...Things always break the worse possible moment and mine broke during the rainy season....I looked everywhere for a replacement trim but there aren't any.Neither there are any used complete sunroofs.I went to a fiberglass fabricator hoping he could make something similar but i was told the trim is too complex as it also has a guide under it...

Is there any hope for an new part ? IF not any ideas for what to do ? I am one step from crying like a baby.. :(

[97SerevoSX]

I ended up buying one, that looks like crap, from a part out.

[zodpowercy]

At this point finding a used one would be a god sent gift....But as i live in Cyprus
you can count s14/s14a cars with sunroof on one hand....maybe two....So its next to impossible.... :(

There isn't any on Ebay...
As i said before i asked fiberglass fabricators and they said they couldn't do it...
I asked for the whole assembly from the dealership and even if there is one left i am afraid it will cost an arm and a leg.....

Sorry for whining...but i have reached my limits...

[dwnshft2drft]

I threw mine away and got a non sunroof skin.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171123/0337fa1cbf9b2c4c0febf76baecc6d6e.jpg

[dreaMervaj]

I contacted Kognition earlier but he is not producing the deletes anymore... anyone got one for sale? Ha

[1Day]

I contacted Kognition earlier but he is not producing the deletes anymore... anyone got one for sale? Ha

May have found a replacement for the super rare Kognition panel. A company called G2 Carbon makes one, kinda pricey at $450, but its cheaper then doing a total roof swap.