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phase2
08-20-2015, 10:28 PM
I know some of you are waiting for it, well here it is:

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM2-2T.jpg
http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM2-3T.jpg
http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM2-4T.jpg
http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM2-5T.jpg
http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM2-6T.jpg

We are in the process of finding a test car for dyno, once dyno is done will post the result on our web page.

For the believers can proceed ordering right away directly from our website (http://www.phase2motortrend.com/product-p/p2-enrns13-gm2.htm) or our authorized distributors you prefer.

For the non-believers can wait until we post the dyno graph.

MSRP at $95.00, street priced at $85.50 shipped

Bolt on less than 10 minutes and enjoy the gains!

Loomis112
08-20-2015, 10:57 PM
What are the benefits of having this?

Do you not run a mafs?

phase2
08-20-2015, 11:06 PM
What are the benefits of having this?

Do you not run a mafs?

Hi there,

Please read the information here on our webpage and you will know what this item do:

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/category-s/223.htm

FaLKoN240
08-21-2015, 08:24 AM
YASSSSS are these ready to ship out?

phase2
08-21-2015, 08:43 AM
Yes, the ring is ready. =)

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ZenkiKid
08-21-2015, 09:09 AM
YUH.


ordering tonight.

Boss240
08-21-2015, 09:56 AM
Will this fit with stock intake piping?

omgRWDgoodness!
08-21-2015, 11:00 AM
In for dyno sheets.

Boss240
08-21-2015, 11:03 AM
I'm also willing to volunteer my car for testing, haha.

hellaslows13
08-21-2015, 11:13 AM
In for dyno sheets.

Very curious to see these as well...

phase2
08-21-2015, 12:26 PM
Will this fit with stock intake piping?
Energy Halo has the same OD as the throttle body, hence the ring will fit inside your existing pipimg, nothing will change.

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CZAR
08-21-2015, 01:36 PM
Any chance these will fit a SOHC throttle body?

phase2
08-21-2015, 01:37 PM
Any chance these will fit a SOHC throttle body?
When we get the chance to work on a SOHC we will find out

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R3b
08-21-2015, 01:52 PM
Commenting later to get one once I get the $$$

imotion s14
08-21-2015, 02:02 PM
Q45 TB plz.

quentinchan
08-21-2015, 02:16 PM
I am a believer. But... But... But... The Tornado is only less than $20 on Ebay. This is more expensive, it must be better than the Tornado. I am IN4ONE!

Lindsay Lohan
08-21-2015, 02:33 PM
lol lol lol lol lol

phase2
08-21-2015, 02:36 PM
Q45 90mm is in the plan as well, once schedule frees up.

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phase2
08-21-2015, 04:41 PM
I am a believer. But... But... But... The Tornado is only less than $20 on Ebay. This is more expensive, it must be better than the Tornado. I am IN4ONE!

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Tornado was ever dyno proven. Frankly speaking I personally bought one for my 1995 Nissan 240SX back in year 1996 and paid $75.00, though I didn't get to dyno it back then so I can't say if there are gains (mental gains maybe).

Another thing about Tornado is the construction of that product is made from some type of thin filmament, the photo might look like a solid construction but it actually isn't.

Perhaps we should get a Tornado equipped KA and do a dyno comparison with a Energy Halo KA.

We should have the KA dyno graph next week as we already scheduled the car for testing.

The Energy Halo is at just the infancy stage, once we start to develop for more cars and also venture into the Domestic market the proven results will build stronger reputation for the product.

KoukiMonsta
08-21-2015, 05:43 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Tornado was ever dyno proven. Frankly speaking I personally bought one for my 1995 Nissan 240SX back in year 1996 and paid $75.00, though I didn't get to dyno it back then so I can't say if there are gains (mental gains maybe).

Another thing about Tornado is the construction of that product is made from some type of thin filmament, the photo might look like a solid construction but it actually isn't.

Perhaps we should get a Tornado equipped KA and do a dyno comparison with a Energy Halo KA.

We should have the KA dyno graph next week as we already scheduled the car for testing.

The Energy Halo is at just the infancy stage, once we start to develop for more cars and also venture into the Domestic market the proven results will build stronger reputation for the product.

I think he was joking..

The test is only valid if all constants remain the same.

1) the car
2) the dyno
3) the day for that matter (humidity etc)

I am curious if there is any power gain. Potential is definitely there for a cleaner burn.

phase2
08-21-2015, 06:18 PM
I think he was joking..

The test is only valid if all constants remain the same.

1) the car
2) the dyno
3) the day for that matter (humidity etc)

I am curious if there is any power gain. Potential is definitely there for a cleaner burn.

Yes we know he is joking, but I wasn't joking when I mentioned I bought a Tornado back 20 years ago or so since he mentioned about that product. :)

So far with all the dynos we have done on BRZ/FRS/GTR R35/SR20/S2000/G37/Honda Fit, all showed positive gains. KA dyno will come shortly.

I consider this item similar to the concept of say putting in a drop in K&N filter, is K&N drop in filter going to make massive gains? No, but will it make gain on all cars, yes. How much gain, that depends on each car but a few HP here and there I am sure can be accomplished with it.

The good thing about Energy Halo is the gain so far shows consistency, I doubt anyone will lose power with it. On the other hand for highly boosted engine made dramatic improvements like the dyno we've done on a 18psi boosted S13 SR20 with Tomei ARMS turbo upgrade (+10rwhp). We are currently seeking highly boosted cars (20-30psi) to test on for testing as well.

JSnismo240sx
08-21-2015, 08:02 PM
Do you make this for 70mm throttle body?

FaLKoN240
08-21-2015, 08:04 PM
I have a KA-T running 10 psi. I'm ordering mine now!

Are there any discount codes? :P

phase2
08-21-2015, 08:21 PM
Do you make this for 70mm throttle body?

Pulsar 70mm throttle for SR20 not yet on the plate, though probably not enough people with this throttle body to make it worth a product line. We will get to it when we finish off the applications planned on hand first.

phase2
08-21-2015, 08:23 PM
I have a KA-T running 10 psi. I'm ordering mine now!

Are there any discount codes? :P

at 10psi I would estimate about 3-5rwhp hp/torque gain and improve power curve in throttle response and torque all across the board. Youl should be able to feel the gain after the install taking the car for a drive, everyone noticed the gain on both normally aspirated and force induced engine.

Your HP/Torque gain is your discount. :)

ZenkiKid
08-22-2015, 05:48 PM
I have a KA-T running 10 psi. I'm ordering mine now!

Are there any discount codes? :P

Bruh they arent charging sales tax.

That alone is already a discount for us CA people.

phase2
08-22-2015, 05:56 PM
We are absorbing the sales tax until we get the store setting fixed on the sales tax by the webmaster.

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fatduece
08-23-2015, 12:58 PM
Pulsar 70mm throttle for SR20 not yet on the plate, though probably not enough people with this throttle body to make it worth a product line. We will get to it when we finish off the applications planned on hand first.

If you do make the 70mm version, would it work with other 70mm throttle bodies? MY greddy v2 intakemani only accepts the pulsar tb. I was thinking about buy the hypertune 70mm tb. Would your halo work with their tb?

this is how their throttle bodies look http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=584830

phase2
08-23-2015, 01:03 PM
We won't know for sure until we have a Hypertune one for test fitment, although both are 70mm the degree of tapering inside the throttle body and flapper door size can vary

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fatduece
08-23-2015, 01:06 PM
https://warosu.org/data/fa/img/0075/80/1389329203854.jpg

ZenkiKid
08-23-2015, 10:18 PM
Are K series motors on the list? I want to get one for my 8th gen Si DD.

phase2
08-23-2015, 10:26 PM
Yes, Honda def on the list. What yr is your Honda and what is the K model number

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phase2
08-24-2015, 12:13 AM
Did some research, is your 8th Gen Civic Si uses K20A3 engine found in the year of 2002-2005?

FaLKoN240
08-24-2015, 12:41 AM
Free shipping and no tax was a good discount. I hope it comes soon!

phase2
08-24-2015, 01:26 AM
Free shipping and no tax was a good discount. I hope it comes soon!

Our webmaster supposedly fixed the sales tax issue today, so for all of you ordered ahead of time got lucky and we bared the salex tax for you guys. :)

ZenkiKid
08-24-2015, 07:44 AM
Did some research, is your 8th Gen Civic Si uses K20A3 engine found in the year of 2002-2005?

It's a 2011 and it has a k20z3 in it

stricnynel0s
08-24-2015, 08:12 AM
Make one for a rb26 with itbs! I got access to a dyno at my shop

phase2
08-24-2015, 10:31 AM
It's a 2011 and it has a k20z3 in it
Honda getting confusing with all K series motors. Sometimes throttle body doesnt change between slight change in motor series, like the K20A3 might share to Z3. Will look into this and advise.

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phase2
08-24-2015, 09:27 PM
Today we got the test car to be tested on the Dynapak, car is a 1997 Nissan 240SX Kouki with KA24DE DOHC. Car was equipped with Injen air intake and some type of aftermarket catback:

https://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM2-8T.jpg

- Made greatest +3.2rwhp at 5300rpm with overall increase in HP across the entire RPM
- Made average close to +2 ft lbs of torque with overall increase across the entire RPM
- Dyno done at operating warmed up engine temperature and the graphs were taken by the highest base run vs the highest run with Energy Halo installed
- Installation took less than 5 minutes

DenkiMan!
08-25-2015, 11:59 AM
nice! buying one next week probably

KAT-PWR
08-25-2015, 08:06 PM
Curious how this would work for me.

phase2
08-25-2015, 08:59 PM
Curious how this would work for me.

The halo ring likes to see boost , on upgraded T28 turbo on S13 SR20DET @ 18psi jumped over 10rwhp on peak:

http://cdn3.volusion.com/frzxb.uzspe/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRNS13-GM-7T.jpg

driftage240
08-26-2015, 02:04 AM
My sr20 is at 22 psi and q45 tb lmk Wayne ;)

phase2
08-26-2015, 02:05 AM
My sr20 is at 22 psi and q45 tb lmk Wayne ;)
Q45 throttle will be made do not worry!

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ZenkiKid
08-26-2015, 11:00 AM
Installed it into my s13 in about 5 min. Have yet to personally drive it yet though... I will tonight.

A buddy of mine installed his too and he says he had a noticeable difference in response and acceleration on his Ka-T.

phase2
08-26-2015, 11:14 AM
Installed it into my s13 in about 5 min. Have yet to personally drive it yet though... I will tonight.

A buddy of mine installed his too and he says he had a noticeable difference in response and acceleration on his Ka-T.
Thanks for the feedback, since most if not all dynos are done at WOT when airflow is at maximum flow we don't have a good way to show the part throttle response improvements with the Halo Ring but its confirmed so far by everyone that installed the Halo Ring they confirmed the same results at test drive post installation. [emoji4]

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nate1
08-28-2015, 01:43 PM
I'm on board as soon as the q45 come out

phase2
08-28-2015, 01:45 PM
Sounds good :-)

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Gingersmurf
08-28-2015, 01:47 PM
Id be willing to test a SOHC ka ring
Currently running @10psi Would be interesting to see the gains on the single cam, which is already more torque-y at lower rpm than the dual cam

FaLKoN240
08-28-2015, 04:45 PM
Are the sr20 and KA ones the same? I received mine today and they both were listed as s13 sr20 ones and on the receipt.


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ZenkiKid
08-28-2015, 04:55 PM
mine came in a box that was labeled for Sr20 too and it fit just fine.

Car has a noticeable improvement in overall response and low and midrange powerband. It woke the car up a bit, now it doesnt feel like its dragging around heavy ass 18x9.5s hah

phase2
08-28-2015, 04:57 PM
Are the sr20 and KA ones the same? I received mine today and they both were listed as s13 sr20 ones and on the receipt.


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That is correct, the internal dimension specs between S13/S15 and DOHC KA24DE throttle body is the same.

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phase2
08-28-2015, 04:58 PM
mine came in a box that was labeled for Sr20 too and it fit just fine.

Car has a noticeable improvement in overall response and low and midrange powerband. It woke the car up a bit, now it doesnt feel like its dragging around heavy ass 18x9.5s hah
Thanks for sharing the positive results.[emoji4]

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phase2
08-28-2015, 08:04 PM
Id be willing to test a SOHC ka ring
Currently running @10psi Would be interesting to see the gains on the single cam, which is already more torque-y at lower rpm than the dual cam

Okay, once we get the SOHC version done and needs test car for testing we'll be in touch.

Gingersmurf
08-28-2015, 08:21 PM
Okay, just let me know. I'd be super interested to test one

phase2
08-28-2015, 08:37 PM
Okay, just let me know. I'd be super interested to test one

For sure. :)

FaLKoN240
08-29-2015, 01:32 PM
That is correct, the internal dimension specs between S13/S15 and DOHC KA24DE throttle body is the same.

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They have different part numbers.

One ended in 77 and the other in 88

phase2
08-29-2015, 02:12 PM
What part number you referring to?

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ZenkiKid
08-29-2015, 07:38 PM
They have different part numbers.

One ended in 77 and the other in 88

Mine has part number 60124-93

phase2
08-29-2015, 07:41 PM
Mine has part number 60124-93
Sorry now I know what you guys meant, since its a patented design each product has one unique serial number. This is useful when we have to trace for knock offs of our products on the market and we are able to also trace the origin where the product was purchased from. [emoji4]

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imotion s14
08-30-2015, 04:47 PM
Sorry now I know what you guys meant, since its a patented design each product has one unique serial number. This is useful when we have to trace for knock offs of our products on the market and we are able to also trace the origin where the product was purchased from. [emoji4]

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Nice, I really hate how the 240SX market is full of knock offs. And people wonder why no one bothers making shit for the platform anymore.

phase2
08-30-2015, 04:55 PM
Nicely put. :-)

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cbeuglas
08-31-2015, 03:37 PM
I just installed mine and was very happy with the improvement. It defiantly increased power and the spool felt noticeable quicker. The biggest difference I noticed was how much stronger the turbo felt as it was coming in. The gears seemed to be shorter as it was getting through the RPM range faster. Of course I was running 16 pounds of boost during testing. :)

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phase2
08-31-2015, 03:40 PM
I just installed mine and was very happy with the improvement. It defiantly increased power and the spool felt noticeable quicker. The biggest difference I noticed was how much stronger the turbo felt as it was coming in. The gears seemed to be shorter as it was getting through the RPM range faster. Of course I was running 16 pounds of boost during testing. :)

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Thanks for sharing! Mind to tell us your setup (motor, turbo etc.) [emoji4]

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cbeuglas
08-31-2015, 03:47 PM
Stock sr20det,
STI injectors
Z MAF
ISIS 3871 turbo
Dyno tuned ecu (martin RS E.)
Made 297 whp at 16 pounds
This really livened up the spool.



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cbeuglas
08-31-2015, 03:49 PM
It made a more agressive intro

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phase2
08-31-2015, 03:49 PM
Excellent thanks for sharing!

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cbeuglas
08-31-2015, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the good product!

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Stiveno
08-31-2015, 07:12 PM
Also in for the q45 TB :)

phase2
08-31-2015, 07:29 PM
90mm Q45 throttle?

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Shadowhunter
08-31-2015, 07:34 PM
Would love to see some dyno tests. Cash in hand.

Stiveno
08-31-2015, 07:38 PM
90mm Q45 throttle?

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Yeah I have a vh45de swap

phase2
08-31-2015, 07:39 PM
Would love to see some dyno tests. Cash in hand.

Dyno graph test results posted on our website:

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/category-s/237.htm

phase2
08-31-2015, 07:40 PM
Yeah I have a vh45de swap

What year is the 90mm Q45 throttle bodies from? We need to acquire a sample for R&D soon.

Stiveno
08-31-2015, 07:46 PM
What year is the 90mm Q45 throttle bodies from? We need to acquire a sample for R&D soon.

90-96 I believe, I know for sure 92 since that year is what my engine is from. make sure you get the NON traction control one, the Traction control one has a second unnecessary butterfly and sensor on it.

Also the outside diameter is 90mm but I believe the inner diameter is actually 80mm. it takes a 3.5" coupler. Id love to do a dyno test before and after when my cars finished

phase2
08-31-2015, 07:51 PM
Tx for the info, will work on this.

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l adam l
08-31-2015, 08:12 PM
Make one for a rb26 with itbs! I got access to a dyno at my shop

+1 I'd be down

Royal13
09-02-2015, 10:37 AM
order placed!

phase2
09-02-2015, 03:22 PM
Thank you!

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stamps31757
09-06-2015, 06:24 PM
the fact that it spins the air isn't much of a help at this point. But adding a venturi effect will help slightly as this seems to do. But gains will be minimal.

phase2
09-07-2015, 09:56 PM
Depending on everyone's expectation what is minimal for a gain on a product that's sub $100.00 mod:

+3-4rwhp on Honda Fit (1.5L)
+8-9rwhp on S13 SR with T25 @ 8psi
+11-12rwhp on S13 SR with Tomei ARMS @ 18psi
+3rwhp on non-turbo KA24 with intake
+5-8rwhp on non-turbo BRZ / FRS (from 2 diff cars)
+5rwhp on turbo BRZ (Greddy turbo kit)

One has to install one to realize the gain and improvement in driveability improvements since words can't describe it fully.

phase2
09-30-2015, 10:00 PM
Bump for a great thread.

would like to share the dyno testing we've done today on a 2010 Infiniti G37 Sedan with automatic transmission. Although prior we had done testing already in a 6 speed G37 coupe, we still put in the effort to test all different type of setups for the same car as we are curious to see the result as much as you are.

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRR35-GM-2-7T.jpg

Test car was equipped with Takeda cold air intake system and with a straight pipe on stock exhaust (okay let's not question why he choose to remain stock exhaust with a straight pipe but we respect what everyone wish to do to their cars).

Weather in SoCal is pretty hot lately , today is about high 90s and with low humidity. Ran car to operating temp and did 3 base run back to back to get 3 good pull on dyno graph prior ring installation.

Let the car cool down a bit and not to burn our hands off while taking off the intake pipe, we installed the Energy Halo into the throttle body:

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRR35-GM-2-8T.jpg
http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRR35-GM-2-9T.jpg

After installation, ran the car up to operating temp and we did 3 back to back run with Energy Halo installed.

Since Dynapak software we are not able to interpolate an average curve of each sesson's 3 run, we left to pick 2 of the best run from each of the base run and after ring run, and here's the dyno graph:

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/v/vspfiles/photos/P2-ENRR35-GM-2-10T.jpg

We shaded the region of improvement in areas for the torque and horsepower curve so it's easier to see the improvements after the ring install. Again we stress the importance that the main feature of the Energy Halo is not only to make power but to increase and improve upon the power your engine is already making.

Keep in mind dyno can only be done under WOT (Wide Open Throttle), the part throttle response and torque increase can not be shown in a dyno graph but only you can when you drive the car and you will realize the car reacts much differently than what you were used to.

I know some of you have high expectations but don't expect to have a turbo or supercharged experience with this product, because it will not give you that feeling you are looking for at this price point.

For a bigger picture of the dynograph, one can go here on our website and click on the photos to explode the view:

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/prod...nrr35-gm-2.htm

We also did a quick video in setting up the car on the dyno with a test run video in our Youtube channel:

https://youtu.be/ms5DQiVfXx8

DenkiMan!
10-01-2015, 03:48 PM
just ordered mine for my KA24DE. can't wait to throw this thing on!

phase2
10-01-2015, 04:21 PM
just ordered mine for my KA24DE. can't wait to throw this thing on!
Thanks got your order will have the order ship out today!

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Boss240
10-02-2015, 04:29 PM
So I ordered my Energy Halo recently so I could use it for a trackday at Auto Club Speedway, and just like it has been said it took me less than 10 minutes to install om my stockish KA24DE. While at the track power gains on the car weren't very noticeable, since the dyno says its only adding like 3 hp. I did notice power felt smoother on the topend.

phase2
10-02-2015, 04:36 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience with the product. Just keep in mind the Energy Halo will work with whatever mods you plan to put on the car whether you will go with NA or forced induction, the money is not wasted and product can adapt to your new mods.

Boss240
10-02-2015, 05:06 PM
As of right now all i have is a header and an intake, but I plan on rebuilding and turboing the engine next year.

phase2
10-02-2015, 05:11 PM
As of right now all i have is a header and an intake, but I plan on rebuilding and turboing the engine next year.

The Energy Halo works effectively as well on turbocharged engines, the higher boost the better the result. You can keep the ring on the motor with your turbo project.

We are currently also locating a turbocharged KA24DE to run dyno as well, will post the result after we are finished.

phase2
10-06-2015, 08:05 PM
Plug for a good thread:

Another P2M Energy Halo dyno day success today (10/6/15) on 2015 Subaru BRZ:

AFE dry drop in filter
Open flash header
Open flash table with off shelf e85 gas tune
Stock exhaust

On average car made about +3ft lbs torque and +3rwhp across the entire rpm range, no drop in HP/Torque from his previous setup.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12080057_10153156197327066_8595257526262353666_o.j pg
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12132537_10153156197437066_4921154487154113695_o.j pg
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/12141005_10153156197622066_7681075470116640951_o.j pg
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12095031_10153156197712066_2779734940326260788_o.j pg
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/t31.0-8/12140038_10153156197842066_8798815588671037219_o.j pg
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12087929_10153156197917066_5931963157930962948_o.j pg

Video during dyno session:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fekrOZReo0

silverarrow27
11-02-2015, 11:04 PM
Any in the works for a 57mm throttle body?

phase2
11-04-2015, 12:03 AM
At the moment we are making the product to be car specific.

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silverarrow27
11-05-2015, 09:11 AM
Do you have any plans on making any for the Veloster Turbo? It has a 57mm throttle body.

phase2
11-05-2015, 11:32 AM
Thanks for the recommendation, we are doing the development for the Nissan Z32 300ZX and 350Z first, afterwards we will add Veloster and Genesis next in the development list.

silverarrow27
11-06-2015, 07:43 PM
Sweet, I'll keep checking back for updates on this. Will definitely be getting one for the Veloster and s13.

hatchtastic
11-06-2015, 08:14 PM
I'm in for one for my brz, pm me por favor

phase2
11-07-2015, 12:57 AM
Sweet, I'll keep checking back for updates on this. Will definitely be getting one for the Veloster and s13.

Will PM you when Volester is done :)

phase2
11-07-2015, 12:58 AM
I'm in for one for my brz, pm me por favor

Check your PM.

Gingersmurf
12-21-2015, 10:57 AM
For sure. :)

Any word yet on the SOHC Ka's?
I have my car down for the season doing some cosmetic stuff, so it wouldn't be a problem to throw one in and test it out once my car is back together again

phase2
12-21-2015, 03:30 PM
Any word yet on the SOHC Ka's?
I have my car down for the season doing some cosmetic stuff, so it wouldn't be a problem to throw one in and test it out once my car is back together again

Sorry, no plan for the SOHC KA at the moment due to lack of market share and demand :(. Most KA users end up upgraded to the DOHC KA for better performance and bang for the buck swap.