small sliding accident, what could be damaged?

[bobafett]

coming around a sharp corner to come onto the freeway onramp, and i thought it would be a good idea to kick out the rear end and "drift" around the corner...

well the first part of the slide was good, it just seemed like your average powerslide, where the throttle keeps the rear too far out. but i am very new to trying to control a RWD car in a situation like this. so im countersteering the slide, and i must have done something with the throttle that caused the rear end to get traction all of a sudden because i caught traction suddenly the car points the wrong way (off the road down the hill). so i tried to control the car by steering back onto the direction of the road.

at this point i had slid off the road onto the gravel on the side (which tranistions into a steep downhill slope) and had mashed the brakes trying to stop (because i was plowing over those limp white plastic road markers at this time (harmless but i dont like running into things...)

anyway i came to a stop on the side of the road, without ending up down the hill... and went 1 mile down the freeway to the closest exit and then turned around to grab my other car since i wasnt sure if i hurt anything during this accident.


so my question is: how likely is there to be any damage to suspension or whatever could be damaged. i was going pretty slow, maybe 30mph? it was a 2nd gear activity... but when i slid off the road there was a small 1.5" 'drop' which was just the difference in height between pavement and gravel.

anyway it scared the shit out of me, and i decided i will assualt parking lots a lot more before i try anymore stupid shit on the roads...

what could have been fucked up from this accident... when i drove home i was pretty nervous about the car, and i think i was imagining weird vibrations above 40mph. i dont there there was anything wrong. but what should i look for?

cliff notes: i dont no how to drive, how bad is sliding your car off the pavement and onto gravel?

[mike13]

fucking moron.

[Brian]

could be nothing.

could also be some bent arms.

sounds like nothing really.

check the lower control arms, tie rods, and tension rods.

[MakotoS13]

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[D1drifter]

coming around a sharp corner to come onto the freeway onramp, and i thought it would be a good idea to kick out the rear end and "drift" around the corner...

well the first part of the slide was good, it just seemed like your average powerslide, where the throttle keeps the rear too far out. but i am very new to trying to control a RWD car in a situation like this.

Dude, do yourself a favor and keep it off the streets. And not to mention that you are "very new to trying to control a RWD car in a situation like this" Why THE FUCK would you even try stupid shit like this on the streets. You are an :mrmeph:

[Var]

cliff notes: i dont no how to drive, how bad is sliding your car off the pavement and onto gravel?


Ok buddy. Put yer flamesuit on cause here they come.

You probably dont know what all the arms are supposed to look like, but just look under the car. Compare left and right side suspension components and make sure they all bend the same way. If one seems off take a pic and post it. Otherwise if it drives straight it may be ok. Honestly you probably didnt damage anything except your ego and confidence. It's good that you admit this was a stupid thing to do. but like i said put yer flamesuit on

[Brian]

oh yeah, don't be a pussy.
keep sliding wherever you want to.
just don't be stupid and endanger other people.

[sr240mike]

DUMB answer Brian!! Keep it in a parking lot.

[bobafett]

yeah i expect all the flames, cause no it wasnt a smooth move to lose control on the streets.

BUT: there was noooobody around, in front, behind or to either side of me. in fact i couldnt see any other cars, except the ones 200 yards away on the freeway ahead of me (and no im not endangering them), nobody at all was endangered but myself.... and really i wasnt in danger of anything, just hurting my car. :(

i am not stupid enough to try a driving stunt if i am going to be endagering other people, but appearently i am stupid enough to try it endagering my car and possibly myself...

i have successfully slid around this corner on several occasions, but i wont pretend that im an expert at controling this car yet...

so for all u guys who will flame, i know i know... ;) :fuckoff: lol

ill check out the suspension tomorrow when its light out... hopefully nothing is too far out of whack.

[BSeay]

maybe you bent some control arms and fucked up the alignment...

next time you slid make sure it's not on the freeway..because you could have really fucked yourself in that situation...

it's people like you that make my insurance high....damn kids...

[ThatGuy]

Good luck, hopefully nothing is damaged. Here's my mandatory flame: You're a dipshit, don't do it again! [/rant] You've admitted it was dumb, so that's the first step. Like everyone else said, crawl under the car and just look around for a while. Bent or broken stuff is usually pretty simple to spot.

[Toahk]

and i must have done something with the throttle that caused the rear end to get traction all of a sudden because i caught traction suddenly


did you panic and let off the gas mid slide :keke:

[Brian]

damn man, next time nail the whole corner.
i want to see!

[bobafett]

did you panic and let off the gas mid slide :keke:

probably something like that...although during the initial slide i was pretty calm, and didnt feel like i was panicking.... of course once it snapped back on me all i could do was clutch in and slow it down as quickly as i could in the gravel. :goyou: :Ownedd: :Owned:

im foolish not retarted hehe - yeah dont worry guys it wasnt really really close to the freeway or anything, its a nice right turn onto the onramp and a reeeeeeeaaaaaly long downhill ramp (at least 1/8 mile) before you get to the freeway... i wouldnt have done it on a normal close to the freeway onramp (there are a few that would be really cool to drift if one knew what they were doing)

[Maeda]

Better yet... nail an intersection while the yellow is on! :rock:

[MakotoS13]

i am not stupid enough to try a driving stunt if i am going to be endagering other people


yeah you are. pop quiz; do you really believe that when people cause a ten car pile up they are fully aware of all the factors in their environment? nah, they probably overlooked something. maybe a very very small detail that could have prevented the whole thing.

"for ever accident there are 300 close calls." -Toys'R'us training video

this isn't really a flame, more like a wake up call. you obviously weren't observant enough to keep track of what your own car was doing let alone the other people that might have been on that road.

[bobafett]

point taken, and of course i cant really argue seeing as how i am the only stupid idiot in the thread, however, i assure you i KNOW, there was not a single other car anywhere on the road behind me, or coming the other direction to turn onto the road i was turning on, or down the road i was turning onto. it is a completly open corner, and i knew FAAAR ahead of time that i was the only car in the area.

of course you are right though, i certainly wasnt in control, and there are factors other than my observation to consider... and im not trying to say that it wasnt dangerous, and that it couldnt have been a lot worse... i am very thankful that i am ok, and that there wasnt a bike rider or something that i didnt see, that got nailed by my antics... believe me im thankful for how it turned out, and i dont plan on making that mistake again. :)

thanks for the flames, they certainly arent unwarrented. lol

[citizen]

im not gonna flame because it seems just like a small mistake from someone, whom sounds responsible enough to me, just having a little fun. i feel most of these flames are unwarrented...
anyways i wouldn't worry about messing anything major up, but of course your wheel balance is probably off. 1.5" drop at 30mph, hell even 60mph probably won't mess up anything, just like hitting a pothole, but prob not even that bad considering you just dropped into gravel. if it really worries you have the alignment checked, but i wouldn't bother considering what you said.

and to everyone who flamed him: get off your god damn high horses before i kick you off. i'm sure everyone of you have done something other people consider stupid. let he who has not sinned throw the first stone. until then here's a nice warm cup of STFU. have a nice day ^^

did i win yet?

[fastbacchris]

trying to drift on freeway on ramp...crazy guy :nono:

[aznpoopy]

jack up car, look under car to see if anything's broken.

hmmmm, ass sliding doesnt catch traction suddenly. i think u off-throttled like someone said b4.

remember to develop a real sensitivity for gas - open throttle, near neutral, and engine braking. you should really be able to feel right where it is. this is just basic driving advice. aggressive corner entry + engine brake accidentally = very bad.

[misnomer]

You tell us what's broken. Anything feel different? Anything not right? Youc an jack up the car and look (make sure the right side and left side look about the same). As far as what *could* be broken. . . a lot could be but I imagine nothing is. Except your pride. But that can be fixed, just stop drifting on the streets :P

[Yoshi]

dammit man, don't do that crap on the streets!
I visit Vancouver fairly often, some of my best friends live there, if any of them were hurt by someone doing something as stupid as that, you can bet your life I'd be there the next day with my katanas and remington.

Eye for an Eye.

Seriously stupid and dangerous.... and how could you be certain there were no cars coming? You were on an onramp, most onramps in vancouver go from a lower elevation to a higher... where were u at exactly? THere's no way you could see far enough to be able to tell if a car on the freeway doing 70+ is coming, you can't see far enough back from the ramp.

[AAA240SX]

this was stupid on ur part to do this on public streets. ignorance kills buddy. ur lucky no1 was hurt (even urself in the process). anyway, take your car to some auto shop for alignment. even if u think nothing's wrong, they'll be able to tell you. caster, toe, camber, etc. can be off - this would tell you what component is fawked.

[mistaanime]

it's probably nothing....mite juss need to re balance the rims..

[Brian]

YOSHI - you have pictures of street drifting right in your signature.
i can only imagine that the driver and car are you and yours.

[Yoshi]

YOSHI - you have pictures of street drifting right in your signature.
i can only imagine that the driver and car are you and yours.

what do streets look like in your area?
what I see in the background of my sig is a giant ass wheat field next to a PRIVATE road.
Additionally you can't see the other 3 wheat fields that surround that little corner that leads to the open blacktop testing area where there are not even curbs (see how the ones in the pic are rounded?).

Way to jump on me w/o knowing jack about me or where i live.
kthxbi

[Brian]

is that or is that not a street?
is it a racetrack?

answer me that.


p.s. i'm not jumping on you at all. just pointing something out.

[Yoshi]

is that or is that not a street?
is it a racetrack?

answer me that.


p.s. i'm not jumping on you at all. just pointing something out.


It's a PRIVATE Road, ie. closed off to the public.
so to be technical, yes it's a street, but not one you get get to without some very large bolt cutters.

[Brian]

done and done
you preach to keep it off the streets.
yet you d it on the streets.

i'm just being technical here.

now, even though you are doing it on the street, and it is safe, i know this. i understand it is private and all. i know you are bneing safe.

this dude was doing it on the streets. being safe.
same difference.

my point, let's all just relax and quit bitching about the streets.

people know how to be safe.
the end.

[Yoshi]

done and done
you preach to keep it off the streets.
yet you d it on the streets.

i'm just being technical here.

now, even though you are doing it on the street, and it is safe, i know this. i understand it is private and all. i know you are bneing safe.

this dude was doing it on the streets. being safe.
same difference.

my point, let's all just relax and quit bitching about the streets.

people know how to be safe.
the end.

Christ, you're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass now.
p.s. i'm not jumping on you at all. just pointing something out.
what a load of horse crap. Your progression of questions was so obviously leading in to copious amounts of verbal diarrhea just for the sake of waving your big internet penis around. The whole condescending tone doesn't work so well when your arguements are so transparent.

Are you 16? Maybe where you live a street is synonymous with a private road, but here in washington these are totally different things. There is a lawful difference. It's not a public through way, I can look up the WAC code if you'd like to get more "technical", I do work in a capital planning department for a state agency. In fact, a racetrack and a private road are far closer in relation than a public street. What is a track? a very specifically design private road; created in a secured location, and owned by an individual or corporation for specific use by and the owners of such property.
you preach to keep it off the streets.
yet you d it on the streets.

i'm just being technical here.
Yes, you're technically wrong.

And did you even read the initial post? he spun out trying to drift/powerslide onto a FREEWAY ONRAMP. Explain to me how that's being safe?

If you want to argue just to argue, great.
If you'd like to continue nitpicking and trying to verbally entrap me (and poorly i might add) lets do it in PM.
Boba knows he fuct up, but it takes a good amount of people driving that fact home, not to make him feel worse, but to dissuade to others who might do like he did.
We've both spoken our peace in this thread, how about we leave the commentary to those who would post on topic.

[Brian]

actually, i honestly am not TRYING nor INTENDING to be or look like an asshole here.
Yoshi, you are one of the select people on this forum that i don't consider stupid, so thats why i won't type to you in an asshole way. see, i didnt even use any swears in my posts! :) usually i just curse and swear like a sailor to other people. i was just trying to have a pleasant, constructive discussion with you.

anywho, lets end at this. maybe we can restart it on the next street drifting thread ;)

this topic is not about where to drift and where to not drift. it is about him questioning what he could have messed up on the car. the question was answered, so i believe the thread is finished.

[Yoshi]

actually, i honestly am not TRYING nor INTENDING to be or look like an asshole here.
Yoshi, you are one of the select people on this forum that i don't consider stupid, so thats why i won't type to you in an asshole way. see, i didnt even use any swears in my posts! :) usually i just curse and swear like a sailor to other people. i was just trying to have a pleasant, constructive discussion with you.

anywho, lets end at this. maybe we can restart it on the next street drifting thread ;)

this topic is not about where to drift and where to not drift. it is about him questioning what he could have messed up on the car. the question was answered, so i believe the thread is finished.

Agreed. We're done, good man :)

[Brian]

ok, but don't forget what i said.
TO BE CONTINUED... !

[bobafett]

yoshi the onramp is the one going down ellsworth to take highway 14 west (exit 5)... i was coming DOWN a hill, and the turn is level, and then the onramp goes all the way down to the freeway. i could clearly tell there were no cars around. anyway its not the greatest place, but it does have good visibility at least

and i did not spin out... i took a right hand corner, power sliding i guess. and must have let off the gas too much, cause the car regained traction and i took a sharp left (towards the other edge of the road) i was facing within 45 degrees of "the right way" the whole time. anyway i dont feel like arguing about what happened and wether or not it was smart or safe. obviously its not fucking smart or safe - i recognize that. :(

i am not going to argue that it was unsafe etc... i know it was a mistake, and i plan on being more careful in the future.

live and learn right. its the first time ive ever lost control of a vehicle, and it was somewhat of a reality check.

[sciamop]

Why is it that *every single time* the members of this forum manage to lose rear wheel traction they post a detailed report?

Thanks,
Todd