Koyo Radiator + which fan?

[Pudula]

I want a fan system that bolts to the "stock" bolt locations on the koyo radiator on my sr. Any ideas?

Ryan

[wootwoot]

i think the flexolite goes on smoothly. im not positive though, so consider this a bump.

[mjjstang]

well ive seen flexalite kits then another kit that has 2 fans and looks like it bolts up perfect, only the flexalite single fan puts out more cfm than the one with 2

[Pudula]

there are like 50 models of flexalite...im looking for specifics if available

[wootwoot]

well how about the flex a lite 220 and 210 models.
here are those and others CLICK ME IM A FAN (http://www.optionimports.com/electricfans.html)

[Mr. Badlose]

I heard that factory Altima electric fans are good. And not ridiculously expensive like FAL.

[tastyratz]

ford taurus 3.8l non sho electric fans. 20$ off carpart.com and pushes more air than the flexalite :-) unless of course you need the clean bling engine bay of the flexalite...

[mrmephistopheles]

i like the clutch fan.
it works well.

[Jeff240sx]

Caveat: If you use the clutch fan, you need to run a shroud. If you use an e-fan, usually you can get away with no shroud since they're right against the radiator.
On a side note, FAL 210s have a rubber gasket that goes around it. On a KA, you need to hacksaw the part above and below where the radiator outlets are. On an SR, you gotta lean the radiator kinda crooked.
-Jeff

[mrmephistopheles]

ah yes.. Jeff has a very good point.
I like running clutch fans/shrouds

[Pudula]

I would like to run the clutch fan, but when i replaced my main crank pulley with another OEM one on my SR, it came with no bolt holes to use the fan. pretty irritating. Jeff - what do you mean about tilting the radiator?

Ryan

[mrmephistopheles]

I would like to run the clutch fan, but when i replaced my main crank pulley with another OEM one on my SR, it came with no bolt holes to use the fan. Ryan

Uhmm, FYI, the clutch fan doesn't bolt to the crank pulley, it bolts to the water pump pulley. And I'm 99% sure you have the studs you need there.

[Pudula]

Uhmm, FYI, the clutch fan doesn't bolt to the crank pulley, it bolts to the water pump pulley. And I'm 99% sure you have the studs you need there.
LOL - thats so funny....its been so long since i pulled that motor apart that i totally forgot. thanks though, maybe ill throw that back on

[Yoshi]

someone told me a long while back that the koyo radiator will work with the stock clutch fan/shroud on th SR... true/false?

I'm not sure how a 3 core radiator could bolt into the same place at the single core stock w/o some fitment issues, but then I've never tried it...

[mrmephistopheles]

someone told me a long while back that the koyo radiator will work with the stock clutch fan/shroud on th SR... true/false?


FALSE! (edit: it's TRUE. I'm just smaert sometimes.)
We have a Koyo on Lisa's S13 with SR. Stock shroud and clutch fan!
Rad hoses were trimmed a little, as well as intake tube (the one that goes from coldpipe to the intake manifold), but other than that, no fitment issues.

[Eternal_240Sx]

Yea..i would also like to know if it would still be possible to use the stock fan and shroud on the 3 row koyo.

[Yoshi]

FALSE!
We have a Koyo on Lisa's S13 with SR. Stock shroud and clutch fan!
Rad hoses were trimmed a little, as well as intake tube (the one that goes from coldpipe to the intake manifold), but other than that, no fitment issues.

ehhh... so wouldn't that be "TRUE"? :P

[mrmephistopheles]

Yea..i would also like to know if it would still be possible to use the stock fan and shroud on the 3 row koyo.

Get rid of your .7MB sig image and read up 3 posts. :D

[mrmephistopheles]

ehhh... so wouldn't that be "TRUE"? :P
FUCK. Owned by my lack of reading comprehension. I misread your post as 'someone told me it would NOT work' DURRRRRRRRR

-1 for me!

[tastyratz]

aww.... its such a cool sig too!

[wylin]

a picture is worth a thousand words...

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_10995769

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_338371

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_587666

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_10713970

pictures of :

Koyo alluminum radiator + stock shroud

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/s13sr20detko.html

[Yoshi]

a picture is worth a thousand words...

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_10995769

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_338371

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_587666

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_10713970

pictures of :

Koyo alluminum radiator + stock shroud

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/s13sr20detko.html


awesome, thanks wylin!

[Pudula]

a picture is worth a thousand words...

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_10995769

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_338371

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_587666

http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1805_10713970

pictures of :

Koyo alluminum radiator + stock shroud

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/s13sr20detko.html
Is that the usdm or jdm fan shroud?

[mrmephistopheles]

SR fan shroud. KA fan shroud is different due to the fan being at a different location.

[accordexl]

get the 220 and wire it up with turn key-turn on.

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/fl210elfan.html

btw.. if you got stock clutch fan w/o fan shroud is NO GOOD. you gotta have fan shroud to cool down the radiator.

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/noems13srfan.html

[Pudula]

get the 220 and wire it up with turn key-turn on.

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/fl210elfan.html

btw.. if you got stock clutch fan w/o fan shroud is NO GOOD. you gotta have fan shroud to cool down the radiator.

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/noems13srfan.html
Do you actually have experience with this fan system withthe koyo or are you simply regurgitating phase2's website info to me?

[kensreliableb18b]

Do you actually have experience with this fan system withthe koyo or are you simply regurgitating phase2's website info to me?


ACCORDEXL is right. the fan clutch with shroud cools efficiently. however, the shroud is hard to source out by itself. that's why its easier to just go with the 220.

[old_s13]

pedula, you are an idiot. of course accordex has experience with it.. or else he wouldnt have said what he said.

okay, how about this.. i have the koyo radiator.. i have the FAL dual fans, guess what.. they fit super snug and super perfect.

sound better? you can thank us all later.

ps: the dual FAL fans are better than the single, in MY opinion. why? because it has more flow ACROSS the radiator, not in one spot. so, when both fans activate get ready for some cooling. the DOWNSIDE to these fans, is, that they are quite powerful and can vibrate the cabin. which, is why i have one running constantly and the other activates with a thermoswitch -- or you can just both put them on thermoswitch, depending on where you live and driving conditions, etc.

respect.. respect.. phase2 rocks, support them.

[tastyratz]

pedula, you are an idiot. of course accordex has experience with it.. or else he wouldnt have said what he said.
thing about the internet is i cant tell is that sarcasm? accordex only has 11 posts so there is a very good chance hes a n00b doing exactly just that. alot of people just say things thats why you gotta disregard alot of posts people make. if hes an employee of pdm or something then my apologies however.

[kensreliableb18b]

thing about the internet is i cant tell is that sarcasm? accordex only has 11 posts so there is a very good chance hes a n00b doing exactly just that. alot of people just say things thats why you gotta disregard alot of posts people make. if hes an employee of pdm or something then my apologies however.

accordexl is not...as you put it.....a "n00b" :boink:

[Pudula]

pedula, you are an idiot. of course accordex has experience with it.. or else he wouldnt have said what he said.

okay, how about this.. i have the koyo radiator.. i have the FAL dual fans, guess what.. they fit super snug and super perfect.

sound better? you can thank us all later.

ps: the dual FAL fans are better than the single, in MY opinion. why? because it has more flow ACROSS the radiator, not in one spot. so, when both fans activate get ready for some cooling. the DOWNSIDE to these fans, is, that they are quite powerful and can vibrate the cabin. which, is why i have one running constantly and the other activates with a thermoswitch -- or you can just both put them on thermoswitch, depending on where you live and driving conditions, etc.

respect.. respect.. phase2 rocks, support them.
I know phase2 pwns...i support them every chance i get (nearly half my swap expenses). I think i'll try the dual fans like you have...but how does it actually attach tho the radiator? (the flex-a-lite black magic single 2800cfm fan brackets are the worst thing ive ever used) I live in arizona, so powerful fans are beyond necessary.

[sr20pwrdSiLvIa]

Dual Flexalite's with temp sensor, PERFECT

[accordexl]

all right all right... i am just trying to help out and get you the infomation that I found out couple months ago. it was hot in socal, my stock radiator leaks and i've always want to be easier to change my belts and adds more bling bling sh*ts, after talked to phase 2 and pick-up the parts. i've never been happeir!!!!! :duh:

just sharing my experiences....... :bowdown: :bowdown:




btw, thanks "Honda Ken" :rofl:

[Johny5]

i run a 98 ka in s14 two row aluminum koyo and i prefer stock e-fan and shroud. the only downside to this setup is that the stock e-fan does not have the pulling power to make it past 3 rows consistently (condenser - 1 row, rad - 2 row) and it can tend to heat up a bit when my a/c comes on. but like if i'm on the highway and i'm going 70mph or so, if i go through the 4th/3rd/2nd downshift shenanigans, my greddy water temp gauge says my temp drops 5-7 celsius. tell me thats not the clutch fan owning ka cooling system in the face please.

[Pudula]

i run a 98 ka in s14 two row aluminum koyo and i prefer stock e-fan and shroud. the only downside to this setup is that the stock e-fan does not have the pulling power to make it past 3 rows consistently (condenser - 1 row, rad - 2 row) and it can tend to heat up a bit when my a/c comes on. but like if i'm on the highway and i'm going 70mph or so, if i go through the 4th/3rd/2nd downshift shenanigans, my greddy water temp gauge says my temp drops 5-7 celsius. tell me thats not the clutch fan owning ka cooling system in the face please.
I'm also pulling through my 3 inch think intercooler. I think I'll go with electic after realizing this...Thanks!

[WishIhad1]

FAL duals dont work with stock radiator?! :( guess i will be saving my omney for a while, got stock KA with stock radiator. Think its a good idea to get a sr20 radiator and then run a long top radiator hose from the left all the way over to the right? cuz ifi get the duals ill take out the clutch fan so i belieave there will be room to run the long hose but im not sure...