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No Motiv
08-14-2004, 12:28 AM
ok!...
heres the story.... a friend of mine has a a s13 coupe and he is going to race against one of his friends who has a S14 highly modded (and beautiful) http://www.jdmsupercars.com/zerothread?id=38
the S13 has
CA18det
-custom V mount intercooler
-RSR exmag cat back
-HKS 3" downpipe
-SS autochrome elbow pipe
-SS autochrome manifold
-tokico blue HP shocks
-Whiteline springs
-Q45 brakes
-VLSD
-Reinforced body
-6 point roll cage
and possibly T28 turbo upgrade comming soon
now it is obvious Dans S14.5 is better....but the S13 is choosing the road and is gonna practice alot on it before the race......
the whole race is a bet.....if the S13 wins then the S14.5 has to join the S13's team...(or at least wear the team logo)
its not a macho grudge match or anything just a fun bet....
me and the driver of the S13 are brainstorming on what stradegy to use, etc.
any advice would be appreciated....
and dont flame...cuz i know what you are gonna say so dont waste your time
thanks
wootwoot
08-14-2004, 12:40 AM
what do you mean dont flame? "racing" on open roads doesnt deserve flaming?
No Motiv
08-14-2004, 12:49 AM
to some ppl it does.....an they will all be like......your friend is stupid street racing is stupid.....and other shit that i dont care about thats all
dvdevo
08-14-2004, 12:58 AM
winning is usually the best strategy.
wootwoot
08-14-2004, 12:59 AM
well its just kinda asking for flames and such. you are possibly putting innocent bystanders in a situation called death and all
nightwalker
08-14-2004, 01:30 AM
swap the KA back in, get some real struts, swaybars, and nice wheels and tires. how about that?
Maeda
08-14-2004, 01:34 AM
Have you considered....
Oh My, It's A Mirage
I'm Tellin' Y'all It's a....
SABOTAGE!
Nuh-nuh nuh-nuh dahh-dahh!
Nuh-nuh nuh-nuh Dahh dah!!
SR240DET
08-14-2004, 02:44 AM
swap the KA back in, get some real struts, swaybars, and nice wheels and tires. how about that?
im with nightwalker... iv out handled many(i mean a few) turbo cars... on my KA.. sometimes even the vlsd made the difference... or maby they just suck at driving..... i dunno... im still with nightwalker!
Zoom8112
08-14-2004, 03:06 AM
have your friend challenge the other guy to a "tie one hand to the wheel" compeition. but dont tell the other driver, just have your friend practice that. then on the big day, tie the other drivers hand to the wheel and ...
DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNAR! btw a civic is FF and thier tires will give out.
Bbandit
08-14-2004, 03:08 AM
Use the gutter
AN89HATCH
08-14-2004, 03:09 AM
the car really dosnt matter (as long as it has alittle suspension modds, it helps), its all about the driver, Ive seen guys that beat sr240's, mr2 turbos etc, and they drive stock corollas, but are good drivers just try to be careful :x:
mrmephistopheles
08-14-2004, 03:55 AM
make sure you use good duct tape for the hands/steering wheels
If both drivers are of equal skill. The s14 will win . The guy in the s13 pretty much has to drive his ass off to win, which may not be worth it. If you go practice a road to race it, you're pretty much planning to drive over your head which is not only dangerous, but could be slowing you down. You may actually go faster by not caring about the race and driving as smooth as possible. When people officially race, things can get ugly. Advise both drivers to wear helmets and do it at a time and a place where they cant hurt other people.
derrick
08-14-2004, 09:47 AM
uh.. please don't die
mrmephistopheles
08-14-2004, 10:38 AM
uh.. please die
there, fixed it.
Destructo
08-14-2004, 10:54 AM
Fark u flamin ppl. u might kill a bystander blah blah blha. I sure if there gonna race they will have everything need to make sure road clear for the distance they race the entire time . i e ( friends w/ walktakies.) eliminating that problem.and in a race if u fark up ur car its on ur head anyways. So all those ppl who flame about this crap im sure have a nice road course right down the street from them, but we are all not that luck to have one in resonable driving distance. So tounge is all we got. SO SHUT THE F*@$ UP CAUSE PPL ARE GONNA DO WHAT THE WANT, DONT THINK THAT UR MAGICAL ONLINE OPINION IS GONNA DISUADED THEM FROM DOIN WTF THEY WANT.
balh blah blha oh someone might get hurt. ur stoopid
pretty much with anything fun ppl are gonna get hurt jackass.
Phoen_x_s14
08-14-2004, 11:13 AM
If their worried about bystanders, have the race on a mountain late in the evening thay way they won't get anyone hurt or killed but just themselves. Besides, if on a mountain I doubt the S14 would go all out, it seems more like a "fast" show car. C'mon if the car was really prepped for "racing" why would he list the exterior mods first then the engine/suspension? Maybe you should include that with your stradegy No Motiv.
err anyway, if your going to make a show car, get a honda or something. Leave the RWD cars and the turbo charged engines to someone who's acttually going to use it for racing(circuit, auto x, touge, etc), that annoys me when people fix up a car for show just cause that make/model is popular "currenty". Phuck rice, and phuck show, I'll be at blood mountain or dragon's tail. Lets see you do some "racing" by being parked all day at a car show.
BadMoJo
08-14-2004, 11:20 AM
there, fixed it.
HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!1.... :rawk:
stp9154
08-14-2004, 11:22 AM
If their worried about bystanders, have the race on a mountain late in the evening thay way they won't get anyone hurt or killed but just themselves. Besides, if on a mountain I doubt the S14 would go all out, it seems more like a "fast" show car. C'mon if the car was really prepped for "racing" why would he list the exterior mods first then the engine/suspension? Maybe you should include that with your stradegy No Motiv.
err anyway, if your going to make a show car, get a honda or something. Leave the RWD cars and the turbo charged engines to someone who's acttually going to use it for racing(circuit, auto x, touge, etc), that annoys me when people fix up a car for show just cause that make/model is popular "currenty". Phuck rice, and phuck show, I'll be at blood mountain or dragon's tail. Lets see you do some "racing" by being parked all day at a car show.
That S14.5 isn't only for show. He's done all those that you mentioned. He also has some sponsorships on his exterior mods, etc and his engine works have been all done by a friend of his. Therefore, putting other mods before the engine mods seem reasonable. Not that it make any difference putting one infront of another.
And what's all this about "show car" and "honda"?? GA and MD isn't that far away. Why don't you drive up and see for yourselves? How is your car btw?
Phoen_x_s14
08-14-2004, 11:43 AM
my car is mostly suspension modded, still saving up for my engine swap. MD, huh, are there any Mtn passes in your area or you know of? Or a huge skid pad that can be rented and some cones, I would be more then happy to drive up and gather more people so we could all do some gymkana and have a hell of a day. And your car since you sounded a little defensive in your reply?
But like you said, "HE HAS SPONSERSHIPS ON EXTERIOR..." Thats all good for replacing parts if he wrecks it, but why not sponserships on skills for auto x, drift, etc. etc. or whatever he has done? Unless he has then I stand corrected.
And the main reason to list exterior mods first is for people to notice it first. Think about it, for exe. a off road track only race car blah blah would always have its engine spec (size, internal & external parts, etc etc) parts listed first. That way you can know what class the car runs in, (look at the displacement, etc) and/or know what power it can generate and such. So in my set of mind type, I see that the 14.5 is more of a show car/ display car/ looks first performance second car. And that is from the posts of other people on that forum that has his pics hosted, claiming that they see the owners car "..at alot of car shows" If there were pics of the car actually doing all that I stated then I'll be happily edit my reply and take back my own words. But I see none and there is no evedince of what you claim, but your words. If he or anyone has a vid-clip of him doing auto x, touge, etc I'd love to see it and see his driving skills, but untill then I'm calling it how I see it from the info of what everyone has posted so far.
kidinthehall
08-14-2004, 11:50 AM
what makes you people think the S14.23464463 is just gonna murder the CA car? Did none of you notice that for all its big turbo jdm glory the retard has a stock mass air hangin in front of it, with stock injectors feeding it. Yeah........fear that shit. All 280hp.
Good luck with your "togue battle strategy".........im not gonna knock u for racing on the roads, ive done it, still do it. but it seriously sounds like you watch too much tv.
cali240sxdrifter
08-14-2004, 12:43 PM
whats needed, skills. no car part is gonna help you in that department, goodluck
citizen
08-14-2004, 12:51 PM
Pass Him With Your Intertia Drift!
Mr. Badlose
08-14-2004, 12:56 PM
I think your "ultimate touge strategy SIMULATION XY" should be to get really good at launching. I doubt anyone is going to have the balls to pass eachother after the start (especially the S14 guy, he probably doesn't want to risk losing his sponsorships/bang up his show car or whatever). Then just keep a decent line to block the car in the back, and voila...you win.
Please bring a digital camera to take crash/death pics!
Phoen_x_s14
08-14-2004, 12:57 PM
whats needed, skills. no car part is gonna help you in that department, goodluck
I second that to the fullest degree. Not even the size of your paycheck and or credit limit will increase skills, that has to be learned, not bought.
No Motiv
08-14-2004, 01:18 PM
OK....
first off
the s14 is NOT just a showcar....He drives it alot he competed at driftshowoff etc.
Thanks for the advice.....
and i agree i told the driver of the S13 that if he practiced the run enough he would win....and there will be no passing.....the S13 will be in front....he wins if he pulls away....
And we will have people watching the roads...if will be generally safe....helmets =good idea
I think its gonna be filmed also....so one day you may see it.....im not sure but teckademics(s14 sponsor) might film it who knowes
stp9154
08-14-2004, 01:37 PM
No_Motiv, don't bother explaining about show car or not show car statement. You'll get tired.
yudalicious
08-14-2004, 01:45 PM
time to put down the initial D???
lol jk. all I can say is... becareful? I have never pushed as hard as I can on a mountain pass, and there's a good reason not to, real life is different from animes.
MakotoS13
08-14-2004, 01:54 PM
i hope that S14.2383045 grabs a guard rail and chucks your car off the mountain cause this thread is all about you ADVERTISING your little race. you want strategy? buy a day on laguna seca and call it done.
this is something a newb would do. if you wanna advertise just do it, don't hide behind the guise of asking for advice in a situation where no one can offer you anything to begin with.
brainstorming? yeah, its prolly a HELL of a lightshow in your noodle.
SilviaDriver
08-14-2004, 04:48 PM
have takumi drive the s13
nightwalker
08-14-2004, 05:16 PM
...so one day you may see it.....im not sure but teckademics(s14 sponsor) might film it who knowes
we don't want to see a video of two cars driving slow thinking they're driving fast.
Mr. Badlose
08-14-2004, 06:37 PM
the s14 is NOT just a showcar....He drives it alot he competed at driftshowoff etc.
Sliding in a parking is different than gripping at the limit on a narrow road surrounded by DEATH. ph33r!!
and i agree i told the driver of the S13 that if he practiced the run enough he would win....and there will be no passing.....the S13 will be in front....he wins if he pulls away....
Hahaha, do you even know how hard it is to pull away when someone is following you at night?
Have fun!
Drift Style S14
08-14-2004, 06:43 PM
you + your friends + posting this on zilvia + low IQ = idiots
Drift Style S14
08-14-2004, 06:47 PM
I just noticed something that i forgot about and what drove me to leave the fourms to begin with for a while. the amount of noobs that exist now in the community. Christ don't fuck it up for everyone else. just be reading this thread i can see the difference between the new people and the old timers in the commnity. Hopefully evolution will thin this out...
wootwoot
08-14-2004, 09:29 PM
a newb with 1000 posts, how'd that happen???
CreAziaN
08-14-2004, 10:19 PM
have your friend challenge the other guy to a "tie one hand to the wheel" compeition. but dont tell the other driver, just have your friend practice that. then on the big day, tie the other drivers hand to the wheel and ...
DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNAR! btw a civic is FF and thier tires will give out.
gum-tape death match :naughty:
Drift Style S14
08-14-2004, 10:45 PM
a newb with 1000 posts, how'd that happen???
spends lots of time on the internet....
XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX
08-14-2004, 10:52 PM
i bet u the s14 wont handle as good as the s13 cuz of all those exterior nd miscellaneous wieght adding parts.
nightwalker
08-14-2004, 11:31 PM
a newb with 1000 posts, how'd that happen???
who you talkin about Willis?
Drift Style S14
08-15-2004, 12:35 AM
don't hate the player hate the game... wtf am i talking about, your right i only have 500 post... i left the fourms cause of school no time to spend on computer. with number of post i have i really shouldn't talk. i am sorry all...but i still think i am right...
wootwoot
08-15-2004, 02:59 AM
the originator
-willis-
FallbrookS13
08-15-2004, 04:41 AM
this is the stupidest thing i have read.... "any advice would be appreciated" are u kidding me? u want advice on what???? what do u want someone to say "o i think he should do this and he will win" this is the biggest junk i have read in so long. i seriously thought this was a joke...like you were trying to be funny or something. but then i realized it wasn't and that you are 100% serious about this. and that u did post a thread on zilvia hoping to get advice on how to win a race. and u did let us all know that you and the driver of the s13 will be "BRAINSTORMING" (hahahahha) on how to win. did your really think people would be like "wow this is cool these guys are going to go racing down a mountain, hey you should do this and u will win" please spare us all and dont post your stupid statements of wannabe mountain races.
AAA240SX
08-15-2004, 06:46 AM
Stupid topic, not worthy of a dog's ball sweat. This thread is gay lock this shit, it is a waste of valuable space on Zilvia. Thats it...
aznpoopy
08-15-2004, 10:43 AM
So all those ppl who flame about this crap im sure have a nice road course right down the street from them, but we are all not that luck to have one in resonable driving distance. So tounge is all we got.
right... 'tounge' passes in philadelphia. LMAO.
Stupid topic, not worthy of a dog's ball sweat. This thread is gay lock this shit, it is a waste of valuable space on Zilvia. Thats it...
agreed.
:fruit:
wootwoot
08-15-2004, 11:10 AM
if you want to win, you need oil injection for the road! just squirt it on the gnarliest turn on the mountain and send that bitch off!
Johny5
08-15-2004, 11:38 AM
cut the corners and jump em.
kungfucowboy
08-15-2004, 04:31 PM
the way your post sounded it seems you have never done a touge run before in that case please don't. It will be cheaper in the long run if you just rent a road course. Mountians are very rough places as i learned while waiting 5 hours in the arizona desert with no water for my friend to bring his truck to pull my s14 out of the mountian it was embeded in. The mountian is so much different than a track or an auto cross if you screw up your car WILL be damaged and you have a good chance of getting hurt too.
Chernobyl
08-15-2004, 06:22 PM
drink a can of coke before the race. it'll give you that super duper nitro boost you need to win.
oh, and get a girlfriend. that might make you think twice about doing stupid shit like this.
Bbandit
08-15-2004, 06:54 PM
so who won? :)
nissantuner22
08-15-2004, 09:43 PM
install an anti-backfiring system on your car.
KyoLo
08-15-2004, 11:54 PM
Put a cup of water on ur cupholder, if the water doesn't spill out u win. How's that?
BTW, more posts doesn't mean you know, old members can be reading posts in the forum all the time but not posting it. Just like posting whore can still be a newbie, look at the "Join Date: xxxx 200x". :nono:
rabid_monkey
08-16-2004, 08:57 AM
ok so ive read everything and i will say that this post is retarded. Dan cant drive, and he wouldnt go race anyway, I cant even get him to come out to a parking lot and practice drifting. on top of that, the S13 has the most horrible suspension in the world. and Dan has horrible suspension too. this would be a race to see which car would flip from too much body roll first. have fun, this will never happen. only way i would ever see dan stepping up to a race, is if u caught him on the highway, in which case his humongoid ultra baby eater turbo would destroy that S13. :werd:
aznpoopy
08-16-2004, 09:02 AM
install an anti-backfiring system on your car.
waaaugggh??!!
real term = anti-lag system
initial D term = mis-firing system
anti-backfiring = ?
nissantuner22
08-16-2004, 09:44 AM
bwahahha, i cant even quote initial d correctly.
240meowth
08-16-2004, 03:02 PM
use drifting technique, it's faster than taking apex. The VLSD can help you drift all the way non-stop!
If i were to give you some real advice about touge racing, i'd say use your car's lighting to your advantage. If you are following, and if you're composed enough you can turn all the lights off in your car and freak out whoever is leading by turning your headlights on from time to time. Or brake as hard as you can before the turn and get close to their bumper and high beam the person . Also you can use intimidation techniques used by racers, by following very close, even tapping bumpers at times...and if you're leading you can use a technique used in tendem drifting competition, which is make an erratic movement right before the turn-in, or make a really sharp drift entrance at the last possible moment to throw the other driver's concentration. Of course there are more things and they arent worth doing for a friendly race.
Drift Style S14
08-16-2004, 05:59 PM
If i were to give you some real advice about touge racing, i'd say use your car's lighting to your advantage. If you are following, and if you're composed enough you can turn all the lights off in your car and freak out whoever is leading by turning your headlights on from time to time. Or brake as hard as you can before the turn and get close to their bumper and high beam the person . Also you can use intimidation techniques used by racers, by following very close, even tapping bumpers at times...and if you're leading you can use a technique used in tendem drifting competition, which is make an erratic movement right before the turn-in, or make a really sharp drift entrance at the last possible moment to throw the other driver's concentration. Of course there are more things and they arent worth doing for a friendly race.
sounds like you have done this before? he might as well just push him off the road and call it a day...
MakotoS13
08-16-2004, 07:57 PM
you guys are crazy. i'm an Ahole and i wouldn't do that crap. then again, driving at night on the side of a mountain that happens to be a public non-vacated road is retarded anyhow...
for real gang, get a grip. when he slides off the side of that big rock we won't have to tolerate these retarded threads anymore.
darwin's theory in action...
SirWarrior
08-16-2004, 10:18 PM
OMFG.
This is one of the funniest threads Ive read so far.
BTW, STEP AWAY FROM THE INITIAL D!!!!
I REPEAT: STEP AWAY FROM THE INITIAL D!!!
chokudoriS13
08-17-2004, 09:03 AM
Maybe once he wins, we'll race him and steal him from your team! We'll drive with gumtape to the death!
(taken less than 4 hrs ago after several hours of hitting the local canyons :D... You know he'll want in :p)
http://www.youatemybreakfast.com/images/misc/allnight1.jpg
240meowth
08-17-2004, 05:31 PM
Maybe once he wins, we'll race him and steal him from your team! We'll drive with gumtape to the death!
(taken less than 4 hrs ago after several hours of hitting the local canyons :D... You know he'll want in :p)
http://www.youatemybreakfast.com/images/misc/allnight1.jpg
let's all go to the observertory!!!
strtracr9
12-17-2004, 12:16 PM
LOL i just found this thread and i think its hilarious......i never remember setting up a touge run with anyone, let alone someone who is this pressed over racing. So for those of you who are wondering this never happened nor will it happen as its just utterly stupid.
ThatGuy
12-17-2004, 12:34 PM
Wow, thanks for for bringing back a thread that's been dead for 4 months just to give us that tidbit of wisdom. We can all rest easily now, knowing that everything is gonna be ok. :duh: :rolleyes: :gives:
sykikchimp
12-17-2004, 02:33 PM
don't bring pointless threads back from the dead to post pointless crap in them.
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