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ca18guy
10-18-2001, 01:09 PM
Well since there was a old topic about this car and the fact it's the only Nissan sport's car being sold in the states, I thought you guy's might like to see the production 350Z. Enjoy, I like it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://www.zheaven.com/public/zpre1.jpg&quot;&gt;

&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://www.zheaven.com/public/zpre2.jpg&quot;&gt;

&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://www.zheaven.com/public/zpre5.jpg&quot;&gt;

&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://www.zheaven.com/public/zpre3.jpg&quot;&gt;

&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://www.zheaven.com/public/zpre4.jpg&quot;&gt;

10-18-2001, 01:13 PM
oh ####, this thing looks way better real than those cheesy concept pics. Can you fill me in on the specs of the egine? all I know is that it has a 3.5 V6 engine.

ca18guy
10-18-2001, 01:18 PM
Nobody knows how much horse power it will have, just have to wait for Nissan to tell us. I would guess 280 HP

Gold240se
10-18-2001, 01:22 PM
It's deffinately a beast. But I would have liked a sleeker look. &nbsp;any idea if they have plans to do a turbo/NA option?

Gold240se
10-18-2001, 01:24 PM
Now that I look at the pic. it doesn't look like there is much room under the hood. &nbsp;Maybe they could do it from th bottom. &nbsp;Like the 225 mph lingenfelter C-5.

ca18guy
10-18-2001, 01:25 PM
Nobody know's anything about the engine or any option's they might have in the future. But if you look at the engine pic, the intake seems to right next to the firewall making it kinda hard (but do able) for a turbo.

Freak Leash 240
10-18-2001, 01:42 PM
Beautiful... just beautiful...

Once a Z enthusiast, always a Z enthusiast... too bad I've never owned one.

transient
10-18-2001, 02:34 PM
Yeah, it looks better than it did... but I still don't like it as much as the z32

zephyr
10-18-2001, 02:42 PM
it actually has normal exhaust now...instead of that weird middle thing...at least its upgradeable

ca18guy
10-18-2001, 02:46 PM
Hmmmm looking at the engine it might not be that hard to single turbo it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.nissan.co.jp/MS/PRESS/COMMON/IMAGES/CONCEPT_CAR/LOW/z_016.jpg&quot;&gt;

ZeroGS14
10-18-2001, 03:02 PM
Just wanted to add my 2 cents....The car is beautiful..I like it...still Liked the Z32 more...as far as turboing it goes...I dont think they will because one of the reasons the Z32 was canned was because it was to expensive...the new Z was developed to be under 30 grand keeping it affordable....if they turbo it its gonna go over that price tag...and on the other hand...there still is that rule in japan about no cars over 280hp...considering we know the maxima's version makes 260hp adding a turbo would for sure put it well over the 280..I know that they underate the engines..like the skylines and so on...but I think it owuld be a bit to obvious

West
10-18-2001, 03:04 PM
Its a v6 home skillet. It would be hard, probly ezier to do a Twin Turbo. There has been talk about nissan releasing a Turbo Model down the road, so start praying and try to cut off the crack supply to Nissan America.

Once again. I must post this on every 350Z topic <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
http://www.zilvia.net/images/href/wsig.jpg

HaloZ
10-18-2001, 03:06 PM
single?!?!?!
twin will still me easier. IMHO
rumers are the 3rd year will have some sort of forced induction option. if JWT hasn't made one b4 that. well i know some on the is TTing a 01 max. so tting a this would be a little more practical than a max. all it is, is money, and time. notching the frame might be needed too. like if u where to put tdo6s in a z32. &nbsp;but of course u will need to reinforce parts of the motor and lower the compression. after all this is an ALL AL. block. unlike the VG30dett that it iron. but never fear, some one or company will turbo it.

(Edited by HaloZ at 5:11 pm on Oct. 18, 2001)

ca18guy
10-18-2001, 03:07 PM
actually i thought it would be easier to single turbo (like the first gen 300zx's) because it has one intake plenum!!!

ZeroGS14
10-18-2001, 03:15 PM
haha i just wanted to say i like the pic with the wolves

HaloZ
10-18-2001, 03:21 PM
ummmmm. the supra(stock)is a twin
(sequen) turbo and i throttle body, the rx7(stock) too, and the the VR4. and all have a single throttle body.

lot easier to put in a y pipe from the intercoolers to the throttle body Vrs engeering a wrap around manifold to connect the 2 sides of the &quot;V&quot; motor. now if it was a i6 yeah singel would be easy to do(supra and rx's). or if there was alot of room under the hood. but we can play &quot;what if&quot; all day, but from what i have read it's best to have the turbo asclose to the block(ie shortest route for exhaust gas to travel) so the turbo/s can be more effective. but who knows.

(Edited by HaloZ at 5:22 pm on Oct. 18, 2001)

ca18guy
10-18-2001, 03:24 PM
Perfectly said HaloZ &quot;who knows&quot; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Personally if a turbo came stock on this car I would expect twin turbo's... but I was thinking aftermarket, one big turbo might be cheaper then a aftermarket TT set up, but who know's.

HaloZ
10-18-2001, 04:52 PM
oh yeah, look at all the singel kits for the z 32.. oh wait there are none. just custom. like this one from the purto rican race team. this car runs mid 7seconds 1/4 miles.
http://www.z32.org/unsorted/proz32_7_7_run.avi
http://www.z32.org/unsorted/proz32_03.bmp
another one from japan. notice the #5 and #6 exhaust manifolds coming out of the fender wells next to the strut tower.
http://www.z32.com/newpics/junredz3.jpg
how about a sr swapped in a z32? a friend is getting ready to do this to his Z.
http://www.z32.com/newpics/240z2.jpg
their was a Z32 that keeped a cima block in the single turbo set up, but major frame modding was done but that car is dead and the block is now in ATL and being TT'd
http://www.z32.com/readerrides/readers/read56a.jpg
http://www.z32.com/readerrides/reader56.htm
just a single kit is very very unlikely with the lack of space and the amout of work to fit it. and im sure the 350z will have the same problem.

West
10-18-2001, 05:03 PM
Nice.

If I were to get a Supra I would so a single turbo conversion.

Didnt know you could do that to the Z. Those arent the VG engine though are they? I have seen the SR one.

How much does a VG30DETT engine weight anyways?

HaloZ
10-18-2001, 05:13 PM
the top is standered vg30dett's but im sure it's built and all the extars...

the seconded one is from JUN in japan so who really knows. more info
<a href="http://www.z32.com/page2.htm

and" target="_blank">http://www.z32.com/page2.htm

and</a> the bottom one(not the one in the sig) is one of the early gen cima blocks, the block that there are several generation of and this one is the one that CAN be borded and stroked reportedly(SP) to a 4liter. but the few ppl that have gotten cima blocks recieved the newer ones that are more like a reg Z vg block. i know the guy that current owns the motor in bottom pic. &nbsp;as for the weight, it's just heavy!

(Edited by HaloZ at 7:15 pm on Oct. 18, 2001)

rubbersidedown
10-18-2001, 05:21 PM
i'm sorry but i really think that's possibly one of the ugliest cars i've seen on the road yet. it ranks up there next to the bmw z3 wagon or whatever that thing is. lol I really don't like this new &quot;futuristic&quot; look some of these newer cars have been taking on.

vancouvers14
10-18-2001, 06:19 PM
we all love nissan, but come on, that thing doesnt look good. &nbsp;seriously, who would choose that over a 3-series

HaloZ
10-18-2001, 08:02 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from vancouvers14 on 8:19 pm on Oct. 18, 2001
we all love nissan, but come on, that thing doesnt look good. seriously, who would choose that over a 3-series</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
some one that wanted some hp, maybe?

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/roadtests/2001/January/ten_best_cars_bmw_3.xml

185-225 HP don't inpress me for a $30-40k
260-280hp for 30ish does it for me. &nbsp;IHMO

my240likenoother
10-18-2001, 08:24 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from WeST on 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3 pm on Oct. 18, 2001
Nice.

If I were to get a Supra I would so a single turbo conversion.



did you see the 4 banger supra in super street???
the 200mph one with the fiber glass body
now that was a nasty surpa

Didnt know you could do that to the Z. Those arent the VG engine though are they? I have seen the SR one.

How much does a VG30DETT engine weight anyways?
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10-18-2001, 08:24 PM
this is just disgraceful http://www.z32.com/newpics2/whackz2.jpg

msilvia
10-18-2001, 08:38 PM
Fucking love it. &nbsp;Seems to me that a lot of the lines seem to carry over from the S13 as much as some of the earlier Zs, which makes me like it even more. &nbsp;

It's so good to see a japanese sports car with a hood again. &nbsp;All those cars with transverse 4's have tiny little stubby hoods. &nbsp;It's so cool to see a car with this general shape - I had thought it might be extinct.

HaloZ
10-18-2001, 09:16 PM
that mk4 has 720hp at 470 torq..... hmmm i would give a little hp for a little more torq. but that's just me.

SpoiledBoi
10-18-2001, 09:32 PM
3 gen. eclispe meants sc430? interior is nice....

misnomer
10-19-2001, 12:21 AM
I like it, though it is a bit too Audi. . . I'm sooooo glad they rounded the air dam (looks much better than the concept)

ca18guy
10-19-2001, 05:06 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from rubbersidedown on 5:21 pm on Oct. 18, 2001
i'm sorry but i really think that's possibly one of the ugliest cars i've seen on the road yet. it ranks up there next to the bmw z3 wagon or whatever that thing is. lol I really don't like this new &quot;futuristic&quot; look some of these newer cars have been taking on.
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I really doubt you saw one on the road !!!!

ca18guy
10-19-2001, 05:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from HaloZ on 4:52 pm on Oct. 18, 2001
oh yeah, look at all the singel kits for the z 32.. oh wait there are none. just custom. like this one from the purto rican race team. this car runs mid 7seconds 1/4 miles.
http://www.z32.org/unsorted/proz32_7_7_run.avi
http://www.z32.org/unsorted/proz32_03.bmp
another one from japan. notice the #5 and #6 exhaust manifolds coming out of the fender wells next to the strut tower.
http://www.z32.com/newpics/junredz3.jpg
how about a sr swapped in a z32? a friend is getting ready to do this to his Z.
http://www.z32.com/newpics/240z2.jpg
their was a Z32 that keeped a cima block in the single turbo set up, but major frame modding was done but that car is dead and the block is now in ATL and being TT'd
http://www.z32.com/readerrides/readers/read56a.jpg
http://www.z32.com/readerrides/reader56.htm
just a single kit is very very unlikely with the lack of space and the amout of work to fit it. and im sure the 350z will have the same problem.
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The reason why there is no single turbo kit for a Z32 is because it was designed for TT, it would be a plumber's nightmare routing all the piping to the dual everything. The 350Z was'nt designed for a turbo so it has more possibilitie's (i see u brought up the cima motor, i was gonna bring that up to), are u telling me that if there was a demand for a single turbp kit for the Z32 someone would'nt make one, but that isn't pratical for the Z32 but you never know maybe it will be for the 350Z. I don't know what I have to say to get it through to you that a single turbo conversion is just as possible as a TT on this car, it's pointless arguing about it because nobody know's yet.

HaloZ
10-21-2001, 01:30 AM
here is a snippet of the admin from tt.net's trip to nissan japan and incounter with the production 350z

Dallas DamonZ

Friday: Shot over to Japan, 13 hour flights suck! Met Mr. K, our host Tetsu Takakamo and a few of the locals at the airport. Head to Ultimate Z (Utsonomiya, Japan) for the 2 day Z meet. We have a nice traditional Japanese dinner with the local crew &amp; knock back saki-bombs w/ Mr. K. ;-)

Saturday: Z car show, 90+ Zs turned out. There was some mind blowing stuff to be seen. I'll leave it up to you to spot things in the pics later on.

Sunday: Driving the cars on the 6Km 45 degree banked Nissan testing track @ Tochigi. Got to see the new Z up close at the end of the day!

Monday: Go to NISMO HQ &amp; see the shop!!! Very, very cool stuff!! Meet with Patrick Pelata &amp; Carlos Ghosn @ Nissan HQ... they are about as far as you go up the Nissan corporate totem pole. Impressive they made time to see us, especially with the press release of the Stagea the next day &amp; the Tokyo Auto Show in 2 weeks. We have dinner in an *extremely* exclusive restaurant with more Nissan top brass, then go down the street to a club w/ live music &amp; a lot of Chivas on ice.

Tuesday: Go to Nissan Design Center, got a 2nd level red badge (third security badge in order to see stuff you're not supposed to see). Got a private viewing of the production Z &amp; the left hand drive interior. We meet with the designers (they are *young*, like 25 or so... which is great because they will be around for multiple iterations of the Z from here forward...). We go to the Stagea press conference (it's a very high performance sports wagon on the Skyline 4 door platform). We get to meet Hanawa-san.. he is the penultimate big cheese @ Nissan. We say goodbye to Katayama-san, he had been travelling with us the entire time up until now. It was kinda like saying goodbye to my own Grandfather (they are the same age). We depart to meet Kenji Sato, K's partner in 'crime' for many years. He &amp; his wife take us out sight seeing in Tokyo. More beer &amp; noodles for dinner!!!1 We go from Tokyo to Utsonomiya to Kinigawa to Tetsu's family's spa/gardens for the remainder of the trip. Not sure how I'll cover the details of seeing the new Z... I signed a NDA or 3, I know things that I'd like to share with you... you'll see it all soon enough since the press has gotten their photos &amp; some specs... so I'll probably just leave it at that. As a matter or fact, we found a magazine issue devoted specifically to the release of these details. I wish I could read Japanese to see how in depth it is. Anyway, I got to talk to the designers about specifics, options, etc. Let me just say I'm *extremely* impressed with the car in person and what details Nissan is attending to in bringing the Z back into the market. I'm sure you will be too. It's not a Z32, but I think a lot of people are going to be extremely (pleasantly) surprised when Nissan pulls the sheet back for the public. Pics in the magazines do it no justice until you see it in motion.... I was rather ho-hum about things because I have a Z32 now. I can definitely see a new wave of enthusiastic performance Z owners (like ourselves) happening when they get their hands on this beauty. Suffice it to say, I need to start thinking about making room in my garage for a second baby (gotta decide on a color to compliment the GQ). ;-)


sounds like he was pretty impressed,

BlankFlip
10-21-2001, 02:01 AM
the 350Z doesn't really look like other japanese cars, looks more european or something, don't really know what exactly. maybe it's just the &quot;new look&quot; that's throwing me off.