New help deciding

[Speedy2k]

Hey everyone,

I am about to buy my first car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;However I can't decide what car to get. &nbsp;My choices:

1. 1991 Nissan 240sx SE
2. 1991 Acura Integra GS
3. 1991 Toyota Celica GT/S

I am looking for reliability, comfort, and also performance. &nbsp;In the future, I am thinking of mods so a car with a lot of available mods would be a plus.

[vancouvers14]

celica or 240, depending on price.

[Speedy2k]

Here they are about the same price, that is why I picked those.

Which is more reliable, &nbsp;the Celica or the 240sx? &nbsp;And which one is faster, handles better etc...

[LanceS13]

The 240 should outperform both of those...straight line and handling. &nbsp;Comfort and reliability I would think would be about the same between them.

[Speedy2k]

Can you tell me some specs of the 240sx

like 0-100km/h

400m (1/4 mile)

[LanceS13]

0-60mph...which is pretty much 0-100kph...is about 7.9
1/4 mile is about 15.9-16.1. &nbsp;I believe the old 'Tegs and Celicas are mid 16's cars.

[LanceS13]

oh...and if you want hp and torque, it's\
155 hp
160 lb.ft. torque

[Speedy2k]

Hmm quite impressive. &nbsp;155/160 hp/torque back in 91 is pretty nice. &nbsp;Does the fact that it is RWD also help performance?

[ZeroGS14]

but of course it helps performance...just think of it like this...isnt it a whole lot easier to push something then it is to pull something =D

[rubbersidedown]

I once drove a toyota celica turbo all-trac or something like that. i had never heard of one up untill the point i got to drive it. real nice car, it was an older celica, that's all i know. lol i'd be interested to learn more abou it though.

[msilvia]

0-60 in 7.9 since when? &nbsp;I remember reading all the old road tests that it was closer to like mid to high 8s.

[LanceS13]

You're thinking about the '89-'90 models...they had 140hp. &nbsp;'91-'98 all ran about 8 sec flat 0-60.

[Speedy2k]

8secs isn't too shabby... without swapping engines how must faster can you make it?

[LanceS13]

PSI240SX had his turboed S14 running low 13's.
Basic bolt-ons, you can expect low 15's.

[Speedy2k]

Thats fast Low 13's

So I would need to get that SR20DET engine to get to that performance?

Oh and check this out!

http://speedy2k.virtualave.net/240sx/1.jpg

and

http://speedy2k.virtualave.net/240sx/2.jpg

[ZeroGS14]

you wouldnt need a sr20det for that you can get that kind of performance on nos or on a turbo ka motor

[LanceS13]

PSI's is just the &quot;stock&quot; KA24DE...he's done alot of work to it. &nbsp;There's another guy running low 10's on a built turboed KA. &nbsp;

and I've seen the 'strawberry' conversion...not to keen on it myself

[Speedy2k]

Oh that's good, how much does a turbo system cost anyway

[transient]

89-90 are 8.8 seconds to 60 stock. Those are the recorded numbers, and what mine pulled before I started modding it.

[Speedy2k]

I am probably going to get the 91 model, since it has a bit more hp.

Wow imagine what you can do with the SR20DET engine <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[konkman]

Or just turbo your KA. &nbsp;If you look back on posts we wrote poetry about our cars.

POETRY!! &nbsp;You have got to love something alot to get a bunch of wrench headish guy to do some shit like that.

You won't see any Toyota or Acura owners doing that.

[ZeroGS14]

lol I'll never write poety about my car...it simply is poetry's incarnate =D haha just being full of myself...don't mind me =P

[Speedy2k]

Can the KA engine handle a turbo? &nbsp;Or is it going to die very fast

[LanceS13]

The '95+ KA's are supposed to be able to handle about 6-7 psi. &nbsp;The old KA's have weaker internals. &nbsp;Mark (WeST) and PSI could probably help you out more. &nbsp;I personally plan on a CA18DET swap sometime in the future.

[Archangel]

A friend of mine has a 94 teg, and i thought about getting one until i test drove a 240. &nbsp;I used to be a valet, so i've driven several celica's as well. &nbsp;I like the 240 the most, and if you're going to mod the car - go with the 240 or the integra. &nbsp;there's tons of parts for both (maybe more for the teg) and celica aftermarket parts are harder to come by.

Bottom line man, test drive them all !
we can talk your ear off (or type i guess) about stats and numbers, but the feel of the car is what it comes down to. &nbsp;That's what made me decide on my 240.

[Speedy2k]

Archangel, thanks for the info

I am already looking through trader.ca (listing of used/new cars here in Toronto, CANADA)

Gonna pick me up a 91-93 SE <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[BlankFlip]

the turbo kits i've seen usually run from $3300-$4500 w/out installation. if ur going to get a 91-93 it would probably be better to get the sr20det b/c it's hard to find 91-93's w/ a good &quot;healty&quot; engine w/ low milage, around here at least.

[Speedy2k]

How much are the SR engines? &nbsp;And is it a straight bolt-on?

Oh can anyone tell me the exact specs on the SR engine. &nbsp;How much HP/Torque etc...

[LanceS13]

Another reason you might not want to turbo the older KA's is because before '95, they had weaker internals. &nbsp;Speedy, check out www.unstable-hybrids.com and maybe send them an email or something...I'm sure you can find some info there.