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unwtdhero
07-26-2014, 07:49 AM
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2014 frs

Base/6speed

I absolutely love it, far better than any 20+ nissan.

Now i still have to finish my vqswap coupe (pics in enginebay thread)



Managing 31.7 mpg on average

jubee
07-26-2014, 06:51 PM
i was actually thinking about picking one of these up for a daily like the body not really sure about the motor though. feel this car could have been so much more. but like I said still like it.

angel mkiv
07-26-2014, 07:21 PM
And why do we care?

beavis360
07-26-2014, 08:21 PM
And why do we care?

This. Weird thread, I thought it would have some impressions w/ substance about it? Hope its $1X,XXX worth of car payments better than 20+ year old cars.

How's it compare to the newer Genesis? 350z/370z?

Yardjass
07-26-2014, 09:53 PM
I drove one of these a little while back. It was fun and had a good feel about it, but it was slow. It amazes me that there still isn't a factory turbo option for it.

FaLKoN240
07-27-2014, 12:38 AM
And why do we care?

Because he's so cool man.

DreamN
07-27-2014, 12:41 AM
I care so much right now. I want to know all the things you're going to do with it. Was hoping to see a selfie of both of you together. No homo.

double zero
07-27-2014, 06:37 AM
^^ what he said... and these are just slow as balls and again no payment or nasty interest for the rest of your life. and face it op. you won't keep this/pay it off..

PMG 705
07-27-2014, 07:08 AM
Congrats on the purchase, I like the color.

unwtdhero
07-27-2014, 09:21 AM
im not sure what i was thinking talking about cars on a car forum.
I owe less than 10k on it. But thanks to the nontroll posts.


Comparing to a 350z, its quick in the curves. However, if you hit the brake you already lost.
Over all the car is awesome.

No plans for mods, keeping the warranty for as long as possible.

simmode1
07-27-2014, 09:45 AM
And why do we care?
:werd: If the engine was the same as the WRX or maybe even just measured up to an F20C, then I'd care. But it doesn't, so I don't care.

This ain't an FRS forum.

FaLKoN240
07-27-2014, 09:52 AM
im not sure what i was thinking talking about cars on a car forum.
I owe less than 10k on it. But thanks to the nontroll posts.


Comparing to a 350z, its quick in the curves. However, if you hit the brake you already lost.
Over all the car is awesome.

No plans for mods, keeping the warranty for as long as possible.

Word to the wise: don't come into someone's home, shit on the carpet, and expect to be welcomed.

Although it is unclear what your statement meant, you were basically were saying your new TOYOTA is better than any 20 year old NISSAN. On a NISSAN forum. Wherein 90% of the cars on this forum fit that description. It really isn't going to be well received.

WheelWhore
07-27-2014, 12:32 PM
Managing 31.7 mpg on average


you landed on the wrong site.


www.ecomodder.com

unwtdhero
07-27-2014, 02:47 PM
Ive been on zilvia for 7 years, this is what ive learned...
You all hate any 240
You all hate any other fr platform
Big wheels are cool
Big wheels arent cool....

I rest my case.

Grocery Cart
07-27-2014, 02:57 PM
I don't really get it. If you don't care about the dudes new car, then don't click on the post. Move on to the next.
unwtdhero probably just is happy with his new purchase and wanted to share. Why can't there just be a good conversation and not shit slinging? You guys know that not every thread on Zilvia HAS to be "The Kouki/Zenki/Coolest Car/Doing It Wrong/Silvia/Onevia/Chuki/Pignose/Two-Tone" thread, right?

simmode1
07-27-2014, 06:05 PM
I don't really get it.
What's not to get that something like this doesn't require it's own thread?

Both of you have been on Zilvia long enough to know we don't go for shit like this. Brag about it in your sig, post it in the pic thread, comment on it if someone asks. Other than that, we all know what a stock FRS looks like, so we don't care.

Now excuse while I go bump another thread more worthy on top of this one...

beavis360
07-27-2014, 07:34 PM
I was on the fence but w/ no plans to mod it... 1 pic, talking like its gods personal chariot over far superior twin-turbo 300zx, Skyline GTRs, members w/ solidly built cars, there's no point bragging up a stock base model scion here.

I would like to thank you for taking the depreciation hit. Keep it nice for us ;)
I'm sure we'll get more into them once the STI motor swaps and 2jz swap are more accessible

Loufig
07-27-2014, 08:23 PM
Whats with these people dropping so much cash for a slow car thinking its fast. You could of had a skyline imported for less then half and be HAPPY. Have fun loan company people love people like you bet you wont keep it long enough to pay it off

delado
07-27-2014, 08:24 PM
I absolutely love it, far better than any 20+ nissan



lol enjoy being underpowered as shit. I pull busses on these.

NHTKID
07-27-2014, 09:21 PM
a buddy of mine has one. overall the car is pretty cool. Its lightweight and rearwheel drive. I do however not like the body lines. I am more into the old boxy style cars. that being said when riding and driving my friends it was terribly slow. tbh it felt slower than my stock ka did... he has owned it for over a year now and last i heard he was boosting it because.. well if you are into cars every once in a while you will fool around, and who likes getting pulled by a sohc civic? not me. anyway, nice purchase. enjoy it and make it what you want.

blackrms13
07-27-2014, 10:02 PM
And why do we care?

you cared enough to take your time to post in this thread :hey:

unwtdhero
07-29-2014, 08:37 AM
I never said it was "fast".
Whats wrong with buying a car that handles well, and comparing it to a 240? (Both being fr)
I dont understand the comments about not paying it off...
I mean i dont buy things i cant afford, maybe yall do?

Anywho my vqcoupe will be my track car.


And as far as relativity goes to the forum, i posted in offtopic.
So if bashing does that much for the egos in this forum, feel free.
After all, it is offtopic.

Good day

beavis360
07-29-2014, 09:48 AM
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Loufig
07-30-2014, 11:54 AM
I dont understand the comments about not paying it off...
I mean i dont buy things i cant afford, maybe yall do?


We are saying you will get bored fast....

OutlawLui
07-30-2014, 02:16 PM
My friend got the vortech supercharger on his frs

Love it.


You deff have to do that to it

spooled240
07-30-2014, 04:03 PM
It's cool, but not $500 a month cool

Yardjass
07-31-2014, 06:30 AM
Word to the wise: don't come into someone's home, shit on the carpet, and expect to be welcomed.

Although it is unclear what your statement meant, you were basically were saying your new TOYOTA is better than any 20 year old NISSAN. On a NISSAN forum. Wherein 90% of the cars on this forum fit that description. It really isn't going to be well received.

Yeah, about that. When I test drove one, the salesman was a complete fucking idiot. Lots of high pressure sales BS, uninformed banter, and shots across the bow about my current car. It was almost as if they trained a retarded monkey to recite bullet points out of a sales brochure.

A few weeks later I was driving my NA Z32, which isn't even a fast car at all. I saw another person test driving the FRS with the salesman on the same route he had me take. Pulled up alongside, revved, raced him, beat him. Had a pretty good chuckle at the possibility that I cost him a sale using a car that is notoriously slow, and went on about my day.

unwtdhero
07-31-2014, 07:31 AM
Lol @ the hate.

I plan on f/i after my warranty ends.
Theres quite a few options as far as kits go.
One that caught my eye was the STS rear mount.
Wont be getting it, but its funny.
Havent seen these on anything other than mustangs around here.
http://ststurbo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/brz-frs-kit-shot.jpg

Well executed, but lol...
These guys at sts apparently own patents on a few components of the rear kit.
Its been said they have sued over homebuilt rear mount kits.

Loufig
07-31-2014, 08:48 AM
Should of bought a skyline I had mine imported, best choice I ever made. rhd was weird at first though haha.

tricky_ab
07-31-2014, 01:56 PM
I absolutely love it, far better than any 20+ nissan.


Hmmm...

Lol @ the hate.


Well when you make comments like this initially, I'd imagine you're going to catch some static.

Should of bought a skyline I had mine imported, best choice I ever made. rhd was weird at first though haha.

Until the RB goes pop, and you're out a bunch of cash for a rebuild. Skylines are not cheap to run or maintain...

...have fun...

And OP sounded like he was over 20+ year old cars...

unwtdhero
07-31-2014, 04:36 PM
Tricky_ab nail on the head.

Importing any 20+ car and paying over 10k?
Nah the rhd and single turbo doesnt amount to that.
Maybe a iconic car thats rare, or has rare options.

I didnt buy this car to piss anyone off, despite what the wannabe mods imply.

I bought it cause im over dailying a shit mobile. Period.

One might reply "stop buying shitmobiles" to which i would answer....
Does your 240 have a keyfob? A new car smell?
Do more guys (than women) ask about your car?

If you answered yes to any of these, you might be dailying a "shitmobile"

Prepare for "shitblizzard"

feito
07-31-2014, 05:46 PM
Tricky_ab nail on the head.

Importing any 20+ car and paying over 10k?
Nah the rhd and single turbo doesnt amount to that.
Maybe a iconic car thats rare, or has rare options.

I didnt buy this car to piss anyone off, despite what the wannabe mods imply.

I bought it cause im over dailying a shit mobile. Period.

One might reply "stop buying shitmobiles" to which i would answer....
Does your 240 have a keyfob? A new car smell?
Do more guys (than women) ask about your car?

If you answered yes to any of these, you might be dailying a "shitmobile"

Prepare for "shitblizzard"
So, what you are saying is that u consider ur new frs a shitmobile?

DreamN
07-31-2014, 06:01 PM
Ive been on zilvia for 7 years, this is what ive learned...
You all hate any 240
You all hate any other fr platform
Big wheels are cool
Big wheels arent cool....

I rest my case.
lol this made me laugh.

I do love these little cars. Honestly, if this thing had a Nissan badge on it it would obviously accepted better by most folks on here.

Driven the BRZ and really enjoyed it, even as an auto. I almost bought if it weren't the idea of 3 2 door cars sitting in my driveway and still needing to bum a truck once in a while.

Next year I'll probably be out of the S-Chassis game and get myself a new car as well. Doubt it'll be a 2 door as it's just not convenient enough for me now.

spooled240
07-31-2014, 06:15 PM
^I agree. I would never sell my s14 and the thought of paying 25+k for a modern version of the same car doesn't make sense imo. My second car is a 5 speed IS300 and I love how much different it is than the s-chassis.

Loufig
08-01-2014, 08:07 AM
Until the RB goes pop, and you're out a bunch of cash for a rebuild. Skylines are not cheap to run or maintain...

...have fun...

And OP sounded like he was over 20+ year old cars...

Well I have owned it for 3 years no issues and daily driven and since i have a rb 25 and 26 in my garage and the rb 25 has a full rebuild I think I will be ok. Thats what happens when you live in japan for 8 years...

Loufig
08-01-2014, 08:11 AM
Well I have owned it for 3 years no issues and daily driven and since i have a rb 25 and 26 in my garage and the rb 25 has a full rebuild I think I will be ok. Thats what happens when you live in japan for 8 years...

Btw I paid 13k 3 years ago for my R34... still cheaper then a frs. not trying to dick measure or act like I'm better then you but FRS would be my last choice in a car. You would of gotten less hate from a genesis, solstice, or sky.

Bushido
08-01-2014, 09:24 AM
2014 frs

Base/6speed


Managing 31.7 mpg on average

am I the only one who thinks that this car should be getting like 40-50 MPG?

It's 2014...

Datsuns and Toyotas were getting 40-50 MPG in the 70's... Don't tell me it all has to do with weight.

http://www.productioncars.com/send_file.php/ad_datsun_b210_hwy_brown_1977.jpg

Yardjass
08-01-2014, 10:12 AM
Btw I paid 13k 3 years ago for my R34... still cheaper then a frs. not trying to dick measure or act like I'm better then you but FRS would be my last choice in a car. You would of gotten less hate from a genesis, solstice, or sky.

Those cars (the other 3, not the R34) are all gay as hell. The Subaru Toyota is much better. That said, it is extremely irritating how many of these FRS/BRZ owners won't shut up about how their car is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You can get a lightly used 370Z or C6 vette for mid to high 20's, rather than something that's underpowered and doesn't have proper tires. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is a fun little car. It just seems to be very overhyped.

Loufig
08-01-2014, 10:19 AM
Those cars (the other 3, not the R34) are all gay as hell. The Subaru Toyota is much better. That said, it is extremely irritating how many of these FRS/BRZ owners won't shut up about how their car is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You can get a lightly used 370Z or C6 vette for mid to high 20's, rather than something that's underpowered and doesn't have proper tires. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is a fun little car. It just seems to be very overhyped.

Haha, I was saying it as an insult to the frs..

murda-c
08-01-2014, 10:37 AM
am I the only one who thinks that this car should be getting like 40-50 MPG?

It's 2014...

Datsuns and Toyotas were getting 40-50 MPG in the 70's... Don't tell me it all has to do with weight.




twice the power and 900lb heavier...

simmode1
08-01-2014, 04:00 PM
I do love these little cars. Honestly, if this thing had the WRX's turbo engine in it would obviously accepted better by most folks on here.
Fixed that for you.

DreamN
08-01-2014, 08:37 PM
am I the only one who thinks that this car should be getting like 40-50 MPG?

It's 2014...

Datsuns and Toyotas were getting 40-50 MPG in the 70's... Don't tell me it all has to do with weight.


Somewhat agree, but boxer engines have never been high MPG cars as far I know. Not to mention you have a difference in power and weight to make things less favorable in MPG for newer cars.
Those cars (the other 3, not the R34) are all gay as hell. The Subaru Toyota is much better. That said, it is extremely irritating how many of these FRS/BRZ owners won't shut up about how their car is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You can get a lightly used 370Z or C6 vette for mid to high 20's, rather than something that's underpowered and doesn't have proper tires. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is a fun little car. It just seems to be very overhyped.
R34 isn't federally legal.

People get excited about their cars. Let them be. It happens in almost all circles.

OP could have just wanted a new car. Some people like the experience of being the only owner for a change.

I still don't get this overhyped argument. It's a car that was marketed for it's handling. Which is pretty much on point. Aftermarket has jumped all over it with goodies, including some nice power adders.
twice the power and 900lb heavier...
:stupid:
Fixed that for you.
That would give it a broader customer base, but honestly the styling alone catches so much attention by itself that people are simply drawn to the little car. That's more of what would fix the car for you. ;)

I'm not a HP power fiend. Actually prefer a well balanced and great handling car over tons of power. FRS/BRZ fits the bill. Unfortunately it doesn't fit my current needs.

Silviastunter
08-01-2014, 09:42 PM
Nice brz......... Oh wait it's a toyota. No.. Subaru

simmode1
08-01-2014, 09:43 PM
That would give it a broader customer base, but honestly the styling alone catches so much attention by itself that people are simply drawn to the little car. That's more of what would fix the car for you. ;)

I'm not a HP power fiend. Actually prefer a well balanced and great handling car over tons of power. FRS/BRZ fits the bill. Unfortunately it doesn't fit my current needs.
You said it having a Nissan badge would garner more interest in this car from this site. I said having the WRX's motor would do that better.

Who said anything about tons of power? Are you the type that would prefer an N/A KA over an SR20DET? Just asking. Because I don't know where this HP fiend stuff is coming from. The WRX motor is about 265hp at the crank nowadays. But you seem to be implying that an FRS/BRZ with a power to weight ratio a tab bit better than an S2000 or SR20DET powered S14 Silvia would somehow make it inferior than it current state...

DreamN
08-01-2014, 10:09 PM
You said it having a Nissan badge would garner more interest in this car from this site. I said having the WRX's motor would do that better.

Who said anything about tons of power? Are you the type that would prefer an N/A KA over an SR20DET? Just asking. Because I don't know where this HP fiend stuff is coming from. The WRX motor is about 265hp at the crank nowadays. But you seem to be implying that an FRS/BRZ with a power to weight ratio a tab bit better than an S2000 or SR20DET powered S14 Silvia would somehow make it inferior than it current state...
Be honest, if this thing was actually a Nissan there would be so many more fanboys on this site rather than the typical "not enough power argument." Though, say it had the WRX engine. Price would obviously be affected and you'll have folks going with the other argument of "why buy this when you can that."

I don't mind an N/A KA, but I also don't mind an SR20DET. No huge preference now. I'm just content with how the FRS/BRZ is out of the box (Minus the wheels).

No implication of more power making it inferior, not sure where you got that. I mentioned that I am not a power fiend. "Tons of power," again, my preference. Both things that I mentioned as opinions. Not sure why you're digging at that, but cool beans.

Tujin
08-01-2014, 10:22 PM
They are nice cars, but I disagree with the "better than any 20+ Nissan" bit. Hence why I gave mine up for an 89 Skyline ;)

I loved the way mine sounded with Borla UEL and a loud exhaust

Clips:
(driveway)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCCca3WUtOg

and
(driving)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBwI0_CnLRw

Yardjass
08-01-2014, 10:54 PM
All you guys who think it has enough power need to go drive an NA or NB miata. Then drive one with forced induction and good tires and come back here and tell me you'd ever go back to the regular one.

rawgarage
08-02-2014, 02:35 PM
Congrats on the new ride....

simmode1
08-02-2014, 07:39 PM
Be honest, if this thing was actually a Nissan there would be so many more fanboys on this site rather than the typical "not enough power argument." Though, say it had the WRX engine. Price would obviously be affected and you'll have folks going with the other argument of "why buy this when you can that."

I don't mind an N/A KA, but I also don't mind an SR20DET. No huge preference now. I'm just content with how the FRS/BRZ is out of the box (Minus the wheels).

No implication of more power making it inferior, not sure where you got that. I mentioned that I am not a power fiend. "Tons of power," again, my preference. Both things that I mentioned as opinions. Not sure why you're digging at that, but cool beans.
You came out of left field claiming to not be a HP fiend when I mentioned a 265hp motor. Kinda implies that you think that's excessive for the FRS/BRZ. If you don't think that's excessive, then I must have misunderstood you. But to imply that most of us are so simple as to be satisfied with it being badged as a Nissan rather than getting a turbo engine that was previously in production is insulting really. Most of us are looking for the successor to the Silvia, not the AE86 or USDM 240sx.

You can't go very long on an FRS board without someone asking about swapping in the FA20DIT.

You're saying that using the WRX engine would have made the FRS/BRZ more expensive, yet the more complex WRX manages to sell at the same price as the 86. Probably because it's chassis is cross utilized throughout Subaru's line, unlike the 86. So maybe you're right. Maybe not.

Bushido
08-03-2014, 09:23 AM
Too bad Nissan won't step up... so lame.

this car is the new 240sx

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http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--LIglnMbg--/630002021124916141.jpg

Nissan needs a new Mr. K

spools420a
08-04-2014, 08:21 AM
And why do we care?
because you clicked the link dummy.

PrinceDanny
08-04-2014, 09:20 AM
Lolol my 1997 240sx has a key fob ��

stevenwhite1989
08-15-2014, 07:41 AM
My friend has this kit on his.
http://fullblownmotorsports.com/full-blown-scion-frs-stage-1-base-turbo-kit

He is running faster in the 1/8th with this on stock tires and 7 PSI than he was in his SR S13 Coupe w/ better tires and 12 PSI by about .5 seconds, its running on par with his stock AP2 S2K. He has also had a first gen Gen Coupe, which was god awful in every category.

I personally like the car's looks, it is a bit under powered, but with the aftermarket support you can fix that, and the thing handles really well.

5280VertDET
08-15-2014, 08:03 AM
My friend has this kit on his.
http://fullblownmotorsports.com/full-blown-scion-frs-stage-1-base-turbo-kit

He is running faster in the 1/8th with this on stock tires than he was in his SR S13 Coupe w/ better tires by about .5 seconds, its running on par with his stock AP2 S2K. He has also had a first gen Gen Coupe, which was god awful in every category.

I personally like the car's looks, it is a bit under powered, but with the aftermarket support you can fix that, and the thing handles really well.

I know the car is "new to the market" but over $6K for a turbo kit? Damn son.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17592

One from Enjuku's site (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/avo-stage-1-turbocharger-kit-for-scion-fr-s-subaru-brz.html) is still $4K+ for 276WHP...

Supercharger though... (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/vortech-supercharger-kit-for-brz-fr-s-13.html) 295HP for $4200... :naughty:

I'm sure they'll come down, but it sucks you have to drop $4K+ to get the HP numbers it should have. If STI or TRD made a turbo kit for $5K, at least you'd get factory build quality and not void your warranty.

stevenwhite1989
08-15-2014, 08:15 AM
I know the car is "new to the market" but over $6K for a turbo kit? Damn son.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17592

One from Enjuku's site (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/avo-stage-1-turbocharger-kit-for-scion-fr-s-subaru-brz.html) is still $4K+ for 276WHP...

Supercharger though... (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/vortech-supercharger-kit-for-brz-fr-s-13.html) 295HP for $4200... :naughty:

I'm sure they'll come down, but it sucks you have to drop $4K+ to get the HP numbers it should have. If STI or TRD made a turbo kit for $5K, at least you'd get factory build quality and not void your warranty.

His kit came with bigger injectors, larger fuel pump, and Tial BOV as well, which is why it was a little more expensive.

jsu1012
08-15-2014, 09:32 AM
nice frs. cool cars, handle very well. no power, shit turning angle. My brother has the r spec turbo 2.0 gen, stock engine frs vs him with bolt ons is literally neck and neck. his car feels better drifting, the frs feels better spirit driving through mtns.

my wife's frs, my silvia.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee504/jsu1012/HetKEzC_zps2083ccf3.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/jsu1012/media/HetKEzC_zps2083ccf3.jpg.html)

SLiDe_WaYz
08-15-2014, 10:54 AM
Nice car, I went the new car route after my 240.... 1 year later im bored of it. And its still basically a updated 240. I picked the G37s over a Z. But like stated somewhere else in the thread the monthly payments do tend to get old.

never the less nice pick up man. I like it.

SilviaSR20DET
08-18-2014, 04:55 PM
FRS is nice and all cause its new but they are quickly turning into the new celica they are EVERYWHERE.