I'm beginning to hate the 240sx scene.

[namawon]

I swear the 240sx scene is getting almost as bad as the mainstream Honda scene.
So many un-educated, rude people in this scene lately.
Its amazing what you get when you're trying to sell your car.
I don't even want to answer them back sometimes, it just like "did they really just say that? wow. Were you educated in a barn somewhere?"
Anyway, rant over.
Im sure other people have dealt with this.

[brndck]

Well, you live in pizzle. Things aren't looking too good to start with.

But yeah, there has definitely been a large influx of people who don't care about the car, they just want something so other people will tell them they're cool.

[mechanicalmoron]

Well yeah there's lots of douchebags, an brndck noted. (anyone who tells you about how many s chassis they owned, does NOT love 240s, for instance. Especially if they ever parted a un-wrecked car.)

But, how could you expect smart questions from people who don't own the car? They're not in the scene, they want in - and if they've seen a douchey scene, set them strait on it, help them out and help the scene out (if you don't, they'll just buy one from someone who doesn't care as much)

[kpnasty]

alot of people are elitist pricks, which i find funny. but ive also met alot of awesome people i now consider good friends. live and let die i guess

[xBtony]

It doesn't matter what scene you're in, you'll always get idiots that know nothing, fan boys that want to impress their friends, and usually meet a small group of people that end up being awesome friends. Choose wisely and make entertainment of the others. Lol

[mrturboextreme]

I swear the 240sx scene is getting almost as bad as the mainstream Honda scene.
So many un-educated, rude people in this scene lately.
Its amazing what you get when you're trying to sell your car.
I don't even want to answer them back sometimes, it just like "did they really just say that? wow. Were you educated in a barn somewhere?"
Anyway, rant over.
Im sure other people have dealt with this.

^^This is spot on. Trying to buy or sell an S chassis anymore is so painful. It took me a while to find one after I returned from my deployment. Everything I found was either destroyed to the point of no return because the owner didnt care about it, or WAY overpriced. I paid 600 bucks for my first 89 back in 2005 all stock single cam but was in great shape. Cant find anything like that anymore it seems.

[brndck]

I'm DEFINITELY an elitist prick.

[namawon]

Haha yeah, port saint lucie as a whole isn't a great place for cars.
It seems like no one really knows what a 240sx is really, they just want something "tyte" to drift in.
That's fine and all, just do it in a beat down, broke car. Not a car that's been babied for five years.
Top questions when selling an s13:
Open diff?
5 lug?
On coils?
All the while, all the questions they're asking me are already on the for sale ad.
Also, asking for pictures, when all of them are already on the ad.
No one asks hardly, hows it run? Always serviced on time? Any accidents?
I swear man.

[pablito_s13]

You sound like a honda guy, complaining about other honda guys. Even though they are all in the same group

[fliprayzin240sx]

I stopped trying to associate with most S-chassis owners cuz most of them nowadays are douchebags. It got to the point that I started throwing used parts away because I'd rather not deal with these low balling fucks.

[unwtdhero]

Op fine....leave. Chances are you did NOTHING to change anything. And "scene"..such a horrible word.

[tiggertsi]

Op fine....leave. Chances are you did NOTHING to change anything. And "scene"..such a horrible word.

scene is a horrible word i agree. personally i am part of no scene and am perfectly happy. there is no "scene" around here. i spot 240s rarely around here and personally don't know anyone that has a 240.
i've always liked 240s and just wanted one. it took me several months to find one that wasn't in a wreck and had straight body panels and or frame and ran good. it was 10 times easier finding good older muscle cars or conquests when i was looking than it was to find a good 240.


but anyways just do your own thing and stay away from the "scene".

[AFSil80]

I stopped trying to associate with most S-chassis owners cuz most of them nowadays are douchebags. It got to the point that I started throwing used parts away because I'd rather not deal with these low balling fucks.

Pretty much how I felt. I was getting along with more Mustang and Camaro guys than 240/import people...which eventually led to me selling it.

[Highway Riding]

I stopped trying to associate with most S-chassis owners cuz most of them nowadays are douchebags. It got to the point that I started throwing used parts away because I'd rather not deal with these low balling fucks.


:werd:

I have a shed full of KA & SR parts and yeah I so rather not deal with some snot nose zit faced punk! For me it was neva about the scene. Most Honda guys have made the transition when they realized what the actual meaning of torque steer was!

[hobbs]

Most Honda guys have made the transition when they realized what the actual meaning of torque steer was!

What does that have to do with anything? When people say shit like this, they tend to be 'those' people who the OP was talking about.

[unwtdhero]

Hobbs...its all irrelevant. Op wants to act like Kanye, this "scene" is the funniest shit ive heard. Why cant someone be into a hobby without a fanbase? I was into legos as a kid, but got out when it got flooded with dupoblox.... So dumb

[hobbs]

Hobbs...its all irrelevant. Op wants to act like Kanye, this "scene" is the funniest shit ive heard. Why cant someone be into a hobby without a fanbase? I was into legos as a kid, but got out when it got flooded with dupoblox.... So dumb

I understand where he's coming from, selling parts for these cars has become a hassle, I've only had one single sale in the past year where someone paid my asking price plus shipping, no haggling, no "oh I didn't mention after going back and forth that I don't even have the cash yet". While I understand the price point will attract younger folks it seems like a majority of people that own 240's are just really fucking stupid.

[tiggertsi]

Hobbs...its all irrelevant. Op wants to act like Kanye, this "scene" is the funniest shit ive heard. Why cant someone be into a hobby without a fanbase? I was into legos as a kid, but got out when it got flooded with dupoblox.... So dumb

hell im still into legos and probably older than 95% of the people on this forum.

I understand where he's coming from, selling parts for these cars has become a hassle, I've only had one single sale in the past year where someone paid my asking price plus shipping, no haggling, no "oh I didn't mention after going back and forth that I don't even have the cash yet". While I understand the price point will attract younger folks it seems like a majority of people that own 240's are just really fucking stupid.

i guess that depends on what you're selling. some of the asking prices i've seen for used parts in the classified section on here are preposterous. i can really see it going both ways. but then again there really is no "pricing guide" for this kind of stuff.

[Doobster]

Scenes dead, everyone is a fanboy, I never see anyone build a car for themselves anymore, it's always about impressing others with a sticker covered hood or plasti dipped wheels like every car on speed hunters.

Recently, I sold my 240 and dealt with the losers low balling or trying to get money from their dads. Luckily there was that one dude that had the respect for the car, there is some hope out there


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[fliprayzin240sx]

Pretty much how I felt. I was getting along with more Mustang and Camaro guys than 240/import people...which eventually led to me selling it.

As soon as I get a chance to sell the S14, clear out all my CC debt and survive the AF's 2014/2015 Retention Games...I'm getting a damn C6 Z06. :D

[alexnettles]

Haha sorry for haggling with you Hobbs.. Anyways.. There are definitely people that want to always feel superior to everyone else by talking big/taking shit/giving you their opinion without you asking. I live in a relatively small town in Mississippi, and sometimes go to Birmingham to meets or whatever, there are some cool people there, and there are definitely douches. It's funny that 240s are so popular.. It's like skateboarding.. I was the only one at my school but now every teenager dresses like one. It sucks, but it's also good in some ways, like lots of people with second-hand parts :) not just incredibly expensive stuff that had to be shipped from Japan. Also.. I don't know why this was originally mentioned, but I've got no problem telling people I've had three s13s in the past 12 years.. The first was a '91 hatch. Beaten to death from gravel road drifting and delivering pizza, the engine gave out at ~205k I think. The second, I paid $600 for. Flawless '90 hatch, but non-running, so I paid XAT Racing in Tampa to put an SR in it. Sadly, it was the victim of my first DUI, only six months later. Yeah. I'm an alcoholic(3 years sober in two days). The '92 hatch I have now, I bought before I even got my license back. I remember always wanting an s14, but when I saw that red beauty parked out in front of a used car lot, I fell in love. Bought it two days later, having only some vague idea of how to work a clutch.

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[FaLKoN240]

^How do you have zero posts?

I got rid of my 240 before this one, because I was tired of the people getting into the cars.

After about a year or so I was looking for one again.

It doesn't matter if I don't care for the people, I love the cars. I don't think I'll ever be without one again.

[Zeratul]

And "scene"..such a horrible word.

You can also add "game" to that list.

[AFSil80]

As soon as I get a chance to sell the S14, clear out all my CC debt and survive the AF's 2014/2015 Retention Games...I'm getting a damn C6 Z06. :D

Damn, the good ol' Chair Force is slimming down? And I thought I was being toyed with when they gave me a line number for SSgt in August and denied my base of preference in September...and that was in 2007, at the height of our involvement overseas.

Sounds like they're really putting the screws to people. :/

Hopefully it works out for ya, man. But, if it comes to it, there's plenty of good paying jobs out there for ex military, especially if you are in maintenance like me.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well, Im over the hump so I'm trying to get that pension at this point. Talking about cutting down 25,000 folks in the next 5 yrs. They're doing all kinds of programs and retention boards to get the numbers down. Welcome to the 1 fuck up and you're out Air Force and hold your breath your AFSC at your rank isn't overmanned or you have not had a PT failure in the last few years.

[alexnettles]

I was wondering that myself. Probably because I use this tapatalk app for trolling forums

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[Reece]

The 240 scene is idiots who smack their car into a wall trying to drift and assholes who think they are better than everyone. There are very few real people in this scene, and those very few people generally stay away from everyone because they're treated like shit for no reason by other 240 guys. I could go on and on.

[240boi115]

i got into 240sx's because i love the way they look and ive seen good builds that inspire me to make em look better. i follow no scene or trend or friggin game just my own thoughts on how my car should look. true ive gotten ideas from others but who hasn't?!?! i can honestly say ( especially in the Honda and Nissan scene) its hard to be "original" and that shouldn't be the issue. build the car to your own liking's, people don't like it? well screw them the haters arent the ones with the pinkslip to the car are they? i have respect for those who are older on here and have actually seen the car scene evolve to where it is today they have the right to truely give a less biased opinion on the sway of the car scene. OP your 21....what have you contributed to any type of "fad" you know how they start? people have the balls to start a trend and it eventually sticks.... like the bosoku thing in japan.. do i like the ridiculous exhausts they mount on their cars? no. do i post threads bashing them for what they do? no. so what exactly gives you the god card of judgment here?? yes im aware im young and have my own thoughts but, i also know that not everything i think is right always is.

[RavenSpirit]

I bought a 91 240sx because my stepdad had one and I used to like it. Loved that car. Had it for a few months, and sold it before I deployed in 2010. Years later, I'm kicking myself square in the ass because it was a good condition, unmolested 240sx that I could have taken the 8k I came back from deployment with and done a V8 swap to it. Instead, I took the car I paid 3k for and sold it for 750 because it had what I now know to be minor issues... plus I didn't want to hassle with it being stored... I have learned a lot about cars since then, and I can't believe I sold it for that little due to the minor problems I had with the car and my own laziness.

I want another S13, badly...

On the subject of the "scene", OPs post is the reason I don't go to car meets and such anymore. Everyone wants to tell me what to do with my car or why their car is better, especially on the import/tuner side of things. It irks me.

I'm also kind of scared to try and buy a 240SX again because most of them are beat to hell and drifted and wrecked, salvage title, etc. I'd love to find a nice, clean title stocker like I had before. My stepfather's was a mint condition stock black coupe, and he loved that thing... if only if only :D

[alexnettles]

I had to watch a 99%clean, completely untouched, gold '90 coupe go to the crusher a few months ago. It was pretty sad.

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[namawon]

I'm not disrespecting anyone's views on how to build or modify their car.
Its their car for a reason.

What i'm saying is when it comes to buying/selling or in general being a knowledgeable human being, some people (that happen to own or have owned an 240sx) kind of suck.
Just in my short experience of owning a 240sx(about 4 years..ish).

[maces13]

Orrrr just don't deal with these kinds of peeps. Now sometimes its inevitable yes, track events, shows, for sale adds, it does get annoying but fuck it, their not riding with you and working on your car right? Who really gives a fuck

[irax]

If you think the 240sx scene is bad, try jumping to the Miata scene.
If you are not trying to be an SCCA/NASA autocross star you should just sell the car immediately. I completely regret selling my last 240sx.

[alexnettles]

Yeah I can imagine some Miata people being a bit defensive cause their cars unjustly get hated on, so every mod you do has to be completely functional with not much room for individuality

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[irax]

The miata scene has room for individuality on with what brand you go with. In the end majority of the parts are going to be the same.

[FaLKoN240]

Welp, I'm happy I bought my S14 instead of a Miata then.

[redline racer510]

I think if you believe in or take part in this "scene" you are partly to blame for some of its negativity.

[sw20>>s14]

If you think the 240sx scene is bad, try jumping to the Miata scene.
If you are not trying to be an SCCA/NASA autocross star you should just sell the car immediately. I completely regret selling my last 240sx.

Maybe on miata.net with all the stuffy old timers. Certainly not the case on CR.net where the only thing that matters is if you're running 9" rims and how dumped you are. No middle ground, I swear.

Who cares about the "scene," really? I love the car and will continue to do so no matter what happens to the landscape.

[supersayianjim]

Who cares!!

[stevenrapids]

I've met some good friends through the s-chassis scene. But, we are all what I would call "enthusiasts", where as all the other kids that own them are due to the drift scene exploding(at least in our area). Craigslist has really pissed me off with the 240 scene. I hate putting stuff for sale on craigslist.

[Drift_FX]

i hate almost every car "scene" its full of douche bags a tools that have no idea what they are talking about... that's why you wont see me hanging out with any of these forum warriors and fan boys in person... I love driving these cars and screw everything else.....

[VNG704]

What you guys are saying is, you hate some people. Me too, do we need a thread to state the obvious?

[collegekid]

The 240 scene is idiots who smack their car into a wall trying to drift and assholes who think they are better than everyone. There are very few real people in this scene, and those very few people generally stay away from everyone because they're treated like shit for no reason by other 240 guys. I could go on and on.

Amen.


Orrrr just don't deal with these kinds of peeps. Now sometimes its inevitable yes, track events, shows, for sale adds, it does get annoying but fuck it, their not riding with you and working on your car right? Who really gives a fuck

Exactly. I just realized that in the past 2 years, I stopped hanging out with the lowlifes and only have friends who are hard working at some thing and have set standards in life ( with everything not just cars)



What you guys are saying is, you hate some people. Me too, do we need a thread to state the obvious?

Yes we do!



It's a trend. All of the bullshit you see going on with highschool kids and their 240sx will end some day. Just buy the remaining clean shells you plan on building in your life and let them do their own shit. If you don't like the people, stop hanging around them. Don't go to the car meet where they all street drift. I haven't been to a car meet in almost 2 years because I know there is nothing for me there. So I just go to school/work/ mess around in the garage and do the shit I was going to do regardless of what those highschoolers are doing or whatever trash MEGAN/ISIS/CHASER AERO is producing or who is running a v8 in their 240.

[unwtdhero]

So have we decided who hates "the scene" the most? Cant wait to see the trophy!

This whole thread is dumb.. Reminds me of the goths in HS arguing who's more different..
Or the skaters who argue who's a poser..

/rant

[Agent S14]

i only have 2 240 friends and we have been in the scene for almost ten years. everyone has their bad apples in their car community :)

[badbob2121]

This whole thread is dumb.. Reminds me of the goths in HS arguing who's more different..
Or the skaters who argue who's a poser..

/rant

Exactly, and I love the V8 hate comments in here :wiggle:

[akaina240]

I'm personally one of the guys you prob hate.
However I am not here for the stupid scene or whatever.
Ever since I was looking for a japanese, reliable, nice handling, economical car for college i fell in love with the look of a jdm s14. I'm by no means a car expert, and don't have much funds to spend spend spend on the car, but Im on zilvia because i love s chassis and will always love it.

However I have run into some actual douchebags like Joshki from SD. "Elite" attitudes make me LOL.
I always am humble enough to say I dont know shit. But for the most part everyone I met with 240s are pretty cool.
Always waving whatup on the freeway and taking pictures haha.

[brndck]

I always am humble enough to say I dont know shit. But for the most part everyone I met with 240s are pretty cool.
Always waving whatup on the freeway and taking pictures haha.
Well based on this post i would say you are NOT one of the people we are talking about.

[Slims]

Sold my s chassis almost because the scene is so bad. Kept the suspension because I still love the car and the aftermarket.

Its to many skunny jeans, hipster-bros who want to be "illest."

[deolio]

after leaving the s-chassis world 4 years ago i tried out the z33, then q45, and miata. i found s-chassis people were far more down to earth, honest, and friendly than a lot of those other people. of corse there are a lot of douches that treat their 240's like dirt and beat the shit out of them with no remorse, but there are also a shit ton of dudes that understand style and actually know what the fuck they're talking about.

[shawn1331]

I get tons of props for my build on my 240. I'm 18 and on a super tight budget. I'm doing a budget build with an sr20 so its function over form for me. I'm literally lowered on coils with almost 100% stock parts.

Not because i want to be slammed, but coils are just low lol. I'm still on stock 7spokes and i don't care. And no one else cares. They love it.

It makes me feel pretty accepted because I'm getting lots of positive feedback on my car because its clean and stock. Seems like a lot of people have respect for a proper build. I don't have any plans for aero, or most cosmetic upgrades. I like stock, it looks good and doesn't attract attention. Plus I'm not wasting money on stupid bumpers. Id rather spend it on a bigger turbo, better coils or a tune.

I don't know much about 240's and ill admit that. I try to be humble and sift through the bs. Most guys my age that have 240's are retarded. But thankfully theres probably less than 30 in all of ontario. So it sorta balances out

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[AFSil80]

Not tryin to be a dick, but 100% stock and lowered on coils isn't considered a 'build' by most people.

Not saying it's not clean, but it's not a build either judging by your description.

[89bucketsx]

I don't know much about 240's and ill admit that. I try to be humble and sift through the bs. Most guys my age that have 240's are retarded. But thankfully theres probably less than 30 in all of ontario. So it sorta balances out

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lol ontario canada or ontario california?
Bc if your talking about cali i can agree. Ive only seen like 2 clean s13's in the city.And one is my neighbors coupe.

[shinhed]

i hate almost every car "scene" its full of douche bags a tools that have no idea what they are talking about... that's why you wont see me hanging out with any of these forum warriors and fan boys in person... I love driving these cars and screw everything else.....

I had the same feeling last night on my way to Subway, where most of the tuner car guys gather. Got my meatball sub, some triple chocolate cookies and took my ass home.

[shinhed]

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[OutlawLui]

I had the same feeling last night on my way to Subway, where most of the tuner car guys gather. Got my meatball sub, some triple chocolate cookies and took my ass home.

hahahaahahaahaha

[LEG1T]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr01/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-26958-1385050742-12.gif

Made me and my coworkers lol ! Thankss That is all.

And to contribute, F the scene do it for you...

[speedracerturbo]

I couldn't help but read this. That realization comes as you get older. I am a very involved member in the Z community and the people that I have met through that car have become family. Sadly it doesn't work that way anymore in the 240 community. I've had these cars for a long while now and still keep one for the track, but I've basically cut all ties to the community and watch from the sidelines because of how these people react to each other. It's sad really. The death of a great era.

[BossHogg]

this thread should of been made in 2005. Y'all are late. The 240 "scene" has been douchey since day one of its mainstream debut. Why? because 'murica. We fuck shit up.

[racepar1]

FUCK a "scene"...

ANYONE who refers to the culture of modding a particular car as a "scene" is part of the fucking problem. YOU should be enjoying YOUR 240sx for YOU, NOT any hypothetical "scene". There are fucking morons and cheap asses involved in EVERY platform. Not one is any better than any of the others. Hipster kids want to look "rad" and be "illest" in all kinds of cars, NOT just 240's.

I get tons of props for my build on my 240. I'm 18 and on a super tight budget. I'm doing a budget build with an sr20 so its function over form for me. I'm literally lowered on coils with almost 100% stock parts.

Not because i want to be slammed, but coils are just low lol. I'm still on stock 7spokes and i don't care. And no one else cares. They love it.

It makes me feel pretty accepted because I'm getting lots of positive feedback on my car because its clean and stock. Seems like a lot of people have respect for a proper build. I don't have any plans for aero, or most cosmetic upgrades. I like stock, it looks good and doesn't attract attention. Plus I'm not wasting money on stupid bumpers. Id rather spend it on a bigger turbo, better coils or a tune.

I don't know much about 240's and ill admit that. I try to be humble and sift through the bs. Most guys my age that have 240's are retarded. But thankfully theres probably less than 30 in all of ontario. So it sorta balances out

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Dude, your "build" is the kind that the older enthusiasts cringe at. You slapped an SR in (probably with the shittiest wiring in the universe, pissing fluid everywhere, etc...), slapped some shitty coilovers on it, and called it a "build". You didn't even touch the REALLY important items like suspension arms, brakes, general maintenance, etc... The younger crowd ONLY cares about having a turbo, being slammed, hellaflush, and illest.

What it really comes down to is a lack of patience. You kids want everything NOW just to have it, rather than saving and planning for what you TRULY want in the end.

Us older guys were perfectly happy with having a well-maintained KA powered car with well rounded suspension and brake mods. Once we got the foundation set-up then we worried about power, stance, etc... We would re-seal our SR's and replace all the maintenance items (gaskets, seals, hoses, belts, etc...) BEFORE we dropped the engine in. Now kids just buy an SR and slap it in without thinking about it because they want an SR soooooo bad. What they end up with is a leaking, unreliable piece of shit.

It at least sounds like you've got pride in your car and some common sense, but you seem clueless as to how to build a car WELL or what a "build" truly is.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Eh, you gotta give him slack you, I'd give him props for atleast not going for the missile look.

[!Zar!]

I use to be annoyed and distraught by the amount of ugly and piss poor built 240's.

And then eventually I got over it.

Now I don't even car anymore.

I find it hard enough to care about my own car at times. So I for sure can't care about some kid and theirs.

[racepar1]

I use to be annoyed and distraught by the amount of ugly and piss poor built 240's.

And then eventually I got over it.

Now I don't even car anymore.

I find it hard enough to care about my own car at times. So I for sure can't care about some kid and theirs.

LOL! "Now I don't even car anymore." So do you horse anymore then? HAHA!

[drift freaq]

(anyone who tells you about how many s chassis they owned, does NOT love 240s, for instance. Especially if they ever parted a un-wrecked car.)

How did I let this BS comment get by. I have owned many 240's I have no problem mentioning it. I have been into them for well over 14 years. I have parted out un-wrecked cars and then rebuilt them. Does that automatically mean I don't love them. Not unless your SN is mechanical Moron which pretty much explains the silliness of the statement made by said person in the first place.

Love of the car has nothing to do with how many you owned or did not own or how many you have parted out or not. Un-wrecked or not. It has to do with did you wind up being into them for longer than a couple of years. Did you absolutely enjoy driving them. If you can say yes then you probably loved or love your 240.
Fact is I do love/like the car. Fact is it is different these days. Fact is shit changes. Move along , go forward.
Fact is I did love and do love Datsun 510's 240Z's . Does it mean I have to won them forever? No, it may mean I might want own one forever.

I happen to love my M3 in the short time I have had it. Does it mean I would like to keep it? Possibly, does it mean I might change my mind in the future? There is that chance. People grow,evolve and change nothing really is a constant in the bigger scheme of things.

[mechanicalmoron]

How did I let this BS comment get by. I have owned many 240's I have no problem mentioning it. I have been into them for well over 14 years. I have parted out un-wrecked cars and then rebuilt them. Does that automatically mean I don't love them. Not unless your SN is mechanical Moron which pretty much explains the silliness of the statement made by said person in the first place.

Love of the car has nothing to do with how many you owned or did not own or how many you have parted out or not. Un-wrecked or not. It has to do with did you wind up being into them for longer than a couple of years. Did you absolutely enjoy driving them. If you can say yes then you probably loved or love your 240.
Fact is I do love/like the car. Fact is it is different these days. Fact is shit changes. Move along , go forward.
Fact is I did love and do love Datsun 510's 240Z's . Does it mean I have to won them forever? No, it may mean I might want own one forever.

I happen to love my M3 in the short time I have had it. Does it mean I would like to keep it? Possibly, does it mean I might change my mind in the future? There is that chance. People grow,evolve and change nothing really is a constant in the bigger scheme of things.

If you ruin something salvageable or un-damaged with no reason, you don't love it. Pretty simple.

If you had something to say that could stand on it's own, my screen name would have nothing to do with this - that's about as valid as if I said you're obviously lying about being old enough to drive, because you can't spell freak.



Racepar, you obviously missed the pictures of that guy's car (in someone ELSE'S build thread). If I recall correctly, it says "race gas", and the sticker is crooked - what could make it a more legit build? Does YOUR car say race gas, despite running on 87 octane fumes? Nah, didn't think so.... you'll never have a build like him, go back to your poser formula cars:fruit:

[AFSil80]

LOL! "Now I don't even car anymore." So do you horse anymore then? HAHA!

I bet he doesn't give a truck what people say.

[fliprayzin240sx]

If you ruin something salvageable or un-damaged with no reason, you don't love it. Pretty simple.

If you had something to say that could stand on it's own, my screen name would have nothing to do with this - that's about as valid as if I said you're obviously lying about being old enough to drive, because you can't spell freak.



Racepar, you obviously missed the pictures of that guy's car (in someone ELSE'S build thread). If I recall correctly, it says "race gas", and the sticker is crooked - what could make it a more legit build? Does YOUR car say race gas, despite running on 87 octane fumes? Nah, didn't think so.... you'll never have a build like him, go back to your poser formula cars:fruit:

Getting low-balled to hell trying to sell a car so you ended up parting it out to recoup the most amount of money not reason enough?

[drift freaq]

If you ruin something salvageable or un-damaged with no reason, you don't love it. Pretty simple.

If you had something to say that could stand on it's own, my screen name would have nothing to do with this - that's about as valid as if I said you're obviously lying about being old enough to drive, because you can't freak


You make a lot of assumptions and speak subjectively none of which qualifies your opening statement. Nothing simple just an assumption used as a fact. It does not qualify if the person loves it or not.

My statements stand on their own to the point that the only comeback you could muster was to call out my statement about your SN . Do you really want to prove your SN is actually the tip of the iceberg?

Your last sentence also is pretty damn senseless. It's a very poor attempt at trying to make a witty analogy.

[Agent S14]

eh i dont hangout with the local 240sx scene i just hang with 2 other guys ive known for like 7 years who still drive their koukis. We are just a bunch of old farts.

[slowvia]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who seems to have noticed a shift lately.
It seems like these days the forums and for sale ads are flooded with uneducated language. That may just be the biggest thing that upsets me. Half the time I can't even understand what someone is trying to say. It seems as though this new generation was never told the difference between "sell" and "sale" or "then" and "than."
The other thing that bugs me is the amount of kids that buy cars in good condition, only to gut the interior and slap stickers on every available inch of the car. I don't understand the "LOOK AT ME!!!" style, especially when a majority of these kids just cut their springs to lower their car, install some cheap, loud exhaust, and don't even think about any real performance improvements. It seems that in this "scene" it's more important to have a car that "looks cool" than anything else. Which is how we've arrived at a point where kids will rivet over fenders onto their car and then slap 50mm spacers behind their seven inch wide wheels to make it look "cool."
The only thing I can say is just ignore it. These kids don't really care about their cars, and within ten years they'll be onto the next "in" thing. For the rest of us, just try to ignore the 240 tourists, which is all they really are.

[S14DB]

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