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401imports
09-29-2013, 11:31 AM
i have a set of the street coils from megan. came on one of my cars a while back and just kept them. i dont have anything bad to say about them other than they dont go low. i have 17 inch rims and im trying to lower my car in the rear and when i lower the car as low as the coils ho where the shaft hits the bottom of the coil cup thing my car is still not tucking in the rear. is it just that type of coil where its as low as it goes? i have seen ppl cut out the top of the strut tower and extend it so it sits lower but if there is any ideas other than that i would like to know lol. any advice would help, thanks

lflkajfj12123
09-29-2013, 11:37 AM
cut the springs dawg

ixfxi
09-29-2013, 12:01 PM
120 posts and he still hasnt learned about the small questions thread

WESamiss
09-29-2013, 12:02 PM
cut the springs dawg

ditto.

No seriously, Megan Street go plenty low. Maybe you just have more balls and wanna go low enough to scrap frame?

Gar9854
09-29-2013, 12:43 PM
Remove the two lower collars and sag the spring, that should get you tucking tire on a 45/r16

NAIRB
09-29-2013, 12:47 PM
Just rock some heated lowering springs. No need to adjust them silly coilover things.



But forreal.... Use the small question thread. And I have tucked on megan streets before so there is probably something fucked up with your coils.

Reece
09-29-2013, 09:29 PM
Just put stock struts with cut springs on. Then you'll be low as fawk.

Chaluska
09-29-2013, 10:00 PM
Just put stock struts with cut springs on. Then you'll be low as fawk.

why do that.. just get the oem shocks, remove the spring, and put the top hat back on. drill a hole in the side to drain the heavy fluid, set the car as low as you want the car to be, weld the strut rod to the strut body, so it is one piece. you will always maintain this height now.

Plus you have lost the weight of the hydrolic fluid, AND the weight of the springs.

Weight savings + max low

http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2009/01/21812,xcitefun-lowest-car3.jpg

LIKE THIS^^^^^

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200609/world-s-lowest-car_600x0w.jpg

http://home.scarlet.be/~tsf60490/Newno/low%20car1.jpg

SupaDoopa
09-29-2013, 10:40 PM
Because you're from RI and I was born there, I'm not going to tear your ass apart. Instead, I suggest you YouTube search 'how to adjust coilovers.' Megans don't go SUPER low, but they'll go pretty low.

zo0d
09-30-2013, 11:40 AM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/justin_42000/6d0251e3.jpg

Get yourself some strut tower spacers, Boss.

racepar1
09-30-2013, 12:44 PM
You guys aren't reading. He's adjusting the ride heighth by sagging the spring. Megan's have a separate ride heighth adjustment.

OP, adjust the LOWER bracket UP to lower the car, don't sag the springs. From my experience, even the old Megan's go pretty damn low.

Twinkies!
09-30-2013, 04:18 PM
twist the bracket up, leave spring at the same spot

401imports
10-21-2013, 07:05 PM
i know how to adjust the springs guys... lol they are all the way as low as it can go. even the 2 lock rings are out... and its low but not as low as i want

fliprayzin240sx
10-21-2013, 08:10 PM
Buy another set of fucking coilovers...DO NOT BE RETARDED BY FUCKING AROUND WITH THE STRUT TOWERS!!!

401imports
10-22-2013, 08:15 AM
nigel petrie did this to his rear strut towers..

racepar1
10-22-2013, 11:17 AM
i know how to adjust the springs guys... lol they are all the way as low as it can go. even the 2 lock rings are out... and its low but not as low as i want

How fucking low do you want???

Megan's at their HIGHEST setting are still fucking low, all the way low they're completely SLAMMED...

:mepoke:

Post a pic of how low is not low enough so I can flame the fuck out of you please.

Matej
10-22-2013, 11:33 AM
They can get quite low with a few simple 'tricks.'

Assuming the height adjustment is already maxed ('minned'?) out, remove one or both of the adjustment collars, or move them below the lower brackets on the front shocks. This will yield a noticeable difference.
Swap around the bushings that go inside the pillow ball mounts. Use the shorter ones on the bottom. This should allow for another 5mm or so.
Remove the plastic 'cushion' rings from the spring seats, if every millimeter counts.

After that, the options are to purchase shorter springs, different coilovers, or do some slightly more drastic mods.

401imports
10-22-2013, 06:53 PM
megans are not low. my buddy has some bc coils and he has 17inch wheels and when he lowerd his all the way without taking the lock rings out like i did... sits way lower than mine. like alot lower

racepar1
10-22-2013, 07:41 PM
megans are not low. my buddy has some bc coils and he has 17inch wheels and when he lowerd his all the way without taking the lock rings out like i did... sits way lower than mine. like alot lower


This guy is running Megan's...

http://www.stancenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/236.jpg


YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG...

:-/

ghoti
10-22-2013, 08:03 PM
This guy is running Megan's...

Shreeve'sS13.jpg


YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG...

:-/

Of course he is doing something wrong. Probably want his car to look like that with stock aero and 0 camber.

Reminds me of this thread http://zilvia.net/f/chat/509577-pbm-comps-now-low-all-wtf.html
Either way http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/this_thread_is_useless_without_pics.gif

NAIRB
10-22-2013, 09:29 PM
If your spring is actually bottomed out on the lower mount, you could always just buy a shorter spring. Or you could just cut your strut towers off and duct tape your coils to the trunk. Either way you might want to post up a pic so everyone has some what of an idea what you are talking about.

401imports
10-25-2013, 03:42 PM
Lol that pic of that coupe... What kind of megans does he have

Ikera
10-25-2013, 04:51 PM
Lol that pic of that coupe... What kind of megans does he have

not Street Megans that's for sure,

I don't know about old Megans Street but the new once I've seen for the past 2 years do NOT go low in the rear. Here is a pic of that's stopping them

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/Ikera-/240sx/IMG01338-20111209-1759-1.jpg

This is inside the bottom mount, the diameter becomes smaller and it does not allow for the shock to be threaded in any further

here is from out side

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/Ikera-/240sx/IMG01339-20111209-1803.jpg
the bottom mount is threaded in as far as it can go, as you can see if the smaller diameter didn't stop them they could go about 2" lower.

*note these are not actual Megan Coilovers but they have the same flaw

And this is how the max low in the rear looks on my car with 18" rims
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/Ikera-/240sx/DSC02861.jpg

NAIRB
10-25-2013, 06:10 PM
^ those look like godspeed coils, which technically they are pretty much just like Megans. Buttt, I have had more than one set of Megans and they go much lower than you car in that picture. But in all honesty the price difference between all of them cheap coils vs just saving an buying a set of pbm's or fortune autos would solve all your problems, an they would ride better an last longer.

But if you do decide to run cheap coils that can't go low for some reason, you can fix the problem pretty easy. I run jic flt-a2's in my s13, they are really nice coils, they just don't go as low as the modern pbm/fortune auto's do. So to fix that my rear mount is bottomed out, an I drooped the spring to where I wanted the ride high, and bought 6" springs for the front an only run 1 collar. The car with 18s now sits with the front fender on the rim lip an the rear rim tucks .25"

You could easily do this with your coils an the problem would be solved.

Ikera
10-25-2013, 06:41 PM
I have seen the bottom mounts of the megan coils they are the and interchangeable,
my car might not look low because my front end is also high

here is a pick of S13 with Actual Megan Street coils max low, 18" rims also
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a455/dosonekmc/IMG280Custom.jpg

other solutions I was thinking off is to install helper springs or replace the bottom mounts from Track Coils?

401imports
10-26-2013, 06:37 AM
I just want to go a tad lower that that second to bottom pic. I have over fenders and I want to lower it so that the rim is flush with the body

shalezzz
10-26-2013, 07:59 AM
I had Megan coils they almost tucked rim in the rear and with the collars removed up front would drag a pig nose lip it touched 17s
Pics are with all collars
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx138/tshales/null_zps56673dda.jpg
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx138/tshales/338de77f.jpg

401imports
10-26-2013, 11:27 AM
maybe u guys are running different megans. i have the 900$ street coils im sure the nicers ones go lower

fliprayzin240sx
10-26-2013, 01:39 PM
If the rears are maxed in the cup, you can lower it some more by lowering the spring perches in the rear...not rocket science. IIRC, even when you max out the cup, there's usually a good 3" of thread to lower the springs some more. You'll go lower and you'll enjoy a more awesome ride.

shalezzz
10-26-2013, 09:14 PM
maybe u guys are running different megans. i have the 900$ street coils im sure the nicers ones go lower

I had the 900 tracks only difference is a stiffer spring rate .height is the same. You could also droop your spring like he said above. And ride it at max low until you can afford a better quality coilover that goes lower, or buy shorter swift springs at the same rate.

xoxide
10-26-2013, 09:23 PM
So much fail in this thread...


Ditch the shitty Megan coils, buy some Fortune Auto 500's. Youll go lower than you could possibly want with them, and you will actually have a decent ride quality. /thread

Ikera
10-28-2013, 03:02 AM
So much fail in this thread...


Ditch the shitty Megan coils, buy some Fortune Auto 500's. Youll go lower than you could possibly want with them, and you will actually have a decent ride quality. /thread

so if you had a chose between riding
A. Fortune Auto coils with open diff
B. cheap coils with clutch LSD
you would chose open diff, one tire fire ride?
bad choice my friend, I rather distribute my funds elsewhere, on something that actually makes a big difference

genericforumname
10-28-2013, 03:54 AM
so if you had a chose between riding
A. Fortune Auto coils with open diff
B. cheap coils with clutch LSD
you would chose open diff, one tire fire ride?
bad choice my friend, I rather distribute my funds elsewhere, on something that actually makes a big difference


sometimes I wonder about the world. more specifically where people get this idea that any coilovers are better than none. honestly why are you trying to go so low anyway? if you're going to be as dense as to bring price into the equation AGX's with RSR race springs will do 90% of what you want them to without being as expensive.

shitty coilovers are going to burn out faster driving on normal roads with silly things like uneven surfaces and speed bumps and cracks in the road etc. buying higher end usually gets you a product that will last longer and perform better at the same time. This is the reason why I've changed my route home from work since driving over 15 speed bumps every day is going to wear out stock parts on the WRX faster than they should.

oh wait, people only buy coilovers now for "moar low" and not for an actual performance benefit.

or, you know, you could save up like a normal person and buy non-shit parts and not build a half-assed car that both looks and performs as bout as well as something I could get a geo to do.

oops, forgot I was on Zilvia. just cut the springs they'll go super low, like totally forever.

NAIRB
10-28-2013, 10:20 AM
so if you had a chose between riding
A. Fortune Auto coils with open diff
B. cheap coils with clutch LSD
you would chose open diff, one tire fire ride?
bad choice my friend, I rather distribute my funds elsewhere, on something that actually makes a big difference




What the fuck kind of question is this? What does a diff have anything to do with coilovers? You could easily run on oem lsd which is fine for daily driving or run a welded if you drift the car, both options cost next to nothing. And if you think megan/isis coils vs fortune auto's isn't a big difference then you are brain dead, or just never had a car with nice coils.

:picardfp:

Ikera
10-28-2013, 10:31 AM
yes the price is in the equation, why do you think people buy cheap coilovers, because they like to rock sh!t parts?

my point is if I would have build a proper car with quality parts, It wouldn't be half as much fun to drive, and probably look like a lifted 4x4 sunken battleship

and this discussion is getting off topic, just because some wannabe ballar decided to tell everyone what to buy

Ikera
10-28-2013, 10:36 AM
What the fuck kind of question is this? What does a diff have anything to do with coilovers? You could easily run on oem lsd which is fine for daily driving or run a welded if you drift the car, both options cost next to nothing. And if you think megan/isis coils vs fortune auto's isn't a big difference then you are brain dead, or just never had a car with nice coils.

:picardfp:

the price that's what, clearly you didn't get the point.
2-Way LSD or welded Diff it's a way bigger difference than Megan or Fortune Auto

NAIRB
10-28-2013, 10:54 AM
People rock shit parts because they don't care, being a cheap ass doesn't justify running shitty coils. And sorry but diving a car with a bunch of jank parts is alot shittier that driving a car that is simpler with proper parts. And not sure who the wanna be baller is? But i'm pretty sure if someone was they would have recommended ohlins or motion or somthing that was actually "baller". Fortune auto's are actually a very reasonable price for the quality an would fix the op's problem.


Oh and I got the point, it was just dumb as fuck, FA's are about $300 more than megans, which is not much at all. And like I said, the diff doesn't make sense, oem lsd $150, welded $50. both solve you coilover diff answer an cost very little. And sorry but for being $1000 more, a 2 way does not make that much of a difference to justify the money.

Ikera
10-28-2013, 11:13 AM
my coils cost me $400 new and sorry but for being $1000 more, Fortune Auto coils do not make that much of a difference to justify the money.

NAIRB
10-28-2013, 11:29 AM
:picardfp:

Ikera
10-28-2013, 11:57 AM
that's right you can't argue with your own logic :mepoke:

xh3nry
10-28-2013, 12:02 PM
My megan coilovers :
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u80/HN_/IMG_0961_zps397aaceb.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/HN_/media/IMG_0961_zps397aaceb.jpg.html)
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u80/HN_/DSC01128_zps698cbe8e.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/HN_/media/DSC01128_zps698cbe8e.jpg.html)

Ikera
10-28-2013, 01:16 PM
My megan coilovers :


not bad at all
if these are Megan Street coils and there is no slack in spring preload I would be interested to know about how old are they?

xh3nry
10-28-2013, 01:31 PM
Bought them used and had them for a year. One of them is squeaking because I was in a car accident but overall they're not bad. Yeah they dont have any slacks. They are the megan tracks, pretty much identical to the streets but they just have stiffer springs

Ikera
10-28-2013, 02:03 PM
Bought them used and had them for a year. One of them is squeaking because I was in a car accident but overall they're not bad. Yeah they dont have any slacks. They are the megan tracks, pretty much identical to the streets but they just have stiffer springs

actually I was interested to know in how old they are because I'm wondering if Megan has changed the design of the Street Series Coils rear bottom mount at some point of time.

And I know Megan Tracks can go low, it's the Street coils that have this problem.

NAIRB
10-28-2013, 04:16 PM
that's right you can't argue with your own logic :mepoke:


Dude you are an idiot. I'm not arguing with my own logic. Who the fuck runs $400 coilovers and a $1200 2 way?

Ikera
10-28-2013, 05:19 PM
Dude you are an idiot. I'm not arguing with my own logic. Who the fuck runs $400 coilovers and a $1200 2 way?

ok let's not buy a 2 Way diff, how about use that money on full set of adjustable arms, aftermarket knuckles and Tei-Rod spacers for some extra steering angle, dual core rad and a bucket seat or something. There so much cool stuff you can buy with extra $1000

bigs
10-28-2013, 05:27 PM
To everyone reading this thread: Teal colored type signifies that a dumb ass is talking, so you should read ahead accordingly.

NAIRB
10-28-2013, 06:24 PM
lol @ bigs


Fist of all i'm not even going to compare your $400 coils, whoever thinks it is a good idea to run $400 coils is brain fucked. A actual comparison is $900 megan coils vs $1200 fortune auto's. And for $300 more you get a product that is by far much better in every way. But i'm done talking to you about janky parts.

To the OP, droop your springs, buy shorter springs, or buy new coils. END THREAD

Ikera
10-28-2013, 08:32 PM
ok on a serious note

sagging springs - is dumb and it will wreck your coils
shorter springs - will not accomplish anything in this case

clearly you know nothing about coilovers, and probably don't even Fortune Auto coils yourself

NAIRB
10-29-2013, 11:23 AM
So you are either a troll or completely incompetent about suspension.

Drooping springs does not hurt your coilovers at all, the only way would be if you drooped them so much you had zero suspension travel making you bottom out the coil all the time. I have ran drooped springs on my jic coils for three years without a problem.

You would run shorter springs if your mount is maxed out, and the springs are also maxed out touching the mount not letting you be able to droop them. You would then run shorter springs to let you be able to lower it more.

Clearly you know nothing about coilovers. And on my s14 I ran pbm coils, I sold them and bought fortune auto's because they are similar in quality but have better valving.

OK now I am actually done with this thread and all of its stupidity.