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dorkidori_s13

09-16-2013, 07:40 PM

i want to slap this guy and say "you wanna drive a near stock 240 that would beat the shit out of or compare to modern day sports cars? here, drive mine!"

outside of an SR swap with an S15 turbo at 12psi plus FMIC, the motor is bone stock! only major thing done to the car is the addition of suspension pieces to replace all the broken/failed parts the car came with.

im pretty sure my car would make him pee his pants in how it would spank most modern day cars!

Rich260z

09-16-2013, 07:44 PM

surprisingly it looks like mine lol

ghoti

09-16-2013, 07:55 PM

Carlos Lago...

(sigh)

Looks like we've hit rock bottom, maybe we're starting to rise up again?

Seeing this car on video looks so... so bad and so dated.

Ugh

Everybody knows the only hosts worth watching on Motortrend is Finnegan & Freiburger.
The review seems more outdated. 2004 zilvia

i want to slap this guy and say "you wanna drive a near stock 240 that would beat the shit out of or compare to modern day sports cars? here, drive mine!"

outside of an SR swap with an S15 turbo at 12psi plus FMIC, the motor is bone stock! only major thing done to the car is the addition of suspension pieces to replace all the broken/failed parts the car came with.

im pretty sure my car would make him pee his pants in how it would spank most modern day cars!

You sound like those kids who just finished an SR swap:hey:

jscherf92

09-16-2013, 07:58 PM

Comparing it to a kia soul was just horse shit. What that tells me isnt that the 240sx is bad car, but that it took Kia an extra twenty years to get to the level of engineering Nissan had in 1993.

mechanicalmoron

09-16-2013, 08:18 PM

Neat.

But I disagree when he says it could probably do another 100k as a daily. It could do another 100k as a HARD daily, and still be going strong, ready for the next 100.

About the seat belts, people who are too young to remember them constantly tell me how cool my seatbelts are... like they've never seen automatic belts. I remember them being on pretty new cars when I was a kid.

Rambo slice

09-16-2013, 08:19 PM

brizanden

09-16-2013, 08:20 PM

car still looks dope rolling shots 4x4 n all.
-ps how the hell is a hks exhuast terrible sounding

zooopreme

09-16-2013, 08:33 PM

Comparing it to a kia soul was just horse shit. What that tells me isnt that the 240sx is bad car, but that it took Kia an extra twenty years to get to the level of engineering Nissan had in 1993.

^I like this guy...

I think that was a pretty cool vid, curious to see how they "modify" their 240sx

You guys are idiots. This video isn't to compare a Kia to a 240. They took results from a random car and said here's how the 240sx compares.

If you listened, the test was to see if the 240sx was still THE great car as they stated years ago when it came out. They didn't say "look what the Kia can do, that the 240sx can't do". There is a difference.

Besides you defending the S-Chassis stock "engineering" is laughable. The S13 has terrible stock brakes, stock height makes the car drive like a truck/boat, the seats are not for spirited drives, must've been a long R&D process to decide on an open diff, eh?

car still looks dope rolling shots 4x4 n all.
-ps how the hell is a hks exhuast terrible sounding

> 3" tone on a N/A sounds terrible. I don't care what anybody says, the drone is obnoxious and WOT isn't any better. I'd rather have a stock exhaust than run a 3" on a N/A

KevinEdgar

09-16-2013, 08:39 PM

-ps how the hell is a hks exhuast terrible sounding

x2, I was really curious why he bashed the HKS exhaust multiple times.

brizanden

09-16-2013, 08:49 PM

the drone yeah god awful. tone idk shouldnt be bad if it has a resonated test pipe or cat... which we all know it doesnt lol

Reece

09-16-2013, 09:00 PM

Since when was HKS Hi Power horrible?

Not sure if I am looking forward to seeing what they do with this

omgRWDgoodness!

09-16-2013, 09:02 PM

The astounding part was that the car actually had a legitimate exhaust on it and not some horseshit ISIS, Megan, or other eBay knockoff.

zooopreme

09-16-2013, 09:07 PM

ixfxi

09-16-2013, 09:22 PM

That is actually a really clean hatch. I hope they don't destroy it with trendy styling.

Didnt look clean to me. Looked busted and totally neglected. Here is why I think they bought the car:
1) It had a stock motor and was smog compliant
2) It still had an interior and was not stripped to shit
3) It had not been totally raped, like most of the cars we see nowadays due to CFS (cheap fuck syndrome)

Everybody knows the only hosts worth watching on Motortrend is Finnegan & Freiburger.

^ Absolutely right.

dude is a total cornball
theres a level of condescension that comes from the host during the entire video that really irks me!

Yes, it comes with the territory. This is what happens when you employ a metrosexual car nerd.

Besides you defending the S-Chassis stock "engineering" is laughable. The S13 has terrible stock brakes, stock height makes the car drive like a truck/boat, the seats are not for spirited drives, must've been a long R&D process to decide on an open diff, eh?

> 3" tone on a N/A sounds terrible. I don't care what anybody says, the drone is obnoxious and WOT isn't any better. I'd rather have a stock exhaust than run a 3" on a N/A

Stock engineering is acceptable for what it is, an inexpensive car that sold new for what... 16-19k? The problem is, he's now comparing a stock NEGLECTED car.. and practically ALL of the cars he reviews are new and usually expensive. Besides, the Lexus SC cost more than double the price of a 240SX and it still did not come with a LSD, even as an option. At least the S13 had that option in Canada, and later had that option on all S14s. The issue here is that the car is just beat and needs a lot of maintenance.

As for the exhaust, I cant say for certain but my gut says that this particular model of HKS exhausts was NOT intended to be used in a non-turbo application. Green-horn Carlos Lago just didnt get it...

s0fa king

09-16-2013, 09:30 PM

needs more Jessi Lang.

silnv

09-16-2013, 09:44 PM

Didnt look clean to me. Looked busted and totally neglected. Here is why I think they bought the car:
1) It had a stock motor and was smog compliant
2) It still had an interior and was not stripped to shit
3) It had not been totally raped, like most of the cars we see nowadays due to CFS (cheap fuck syndrome)

What I mean by clean, is exactly what you listed. Wasn't all tore to hell.

Stock engineering is acceptable for what it is, an inexpensive car that sold new for what... 16-19k? The problem is, he's now comparing a stock NEGLECTED car.. and practically ALL of the cars he reviews are new and usually expensive. Besides, the Lexus SC cost more than double the price of a 240SX and it still did not come with a LSD, even as an option. At least the S13 had that option in Canada, and later had that option on all S14s. The issue here is that the car is just beat and needs a lot of maintenance.

As for the exhaust, I cant say for certain but my gut says that this particular model of HKS exhausts was NOT intended to be used in a non-turbo application. Green-horn Carlos Lago just didnt get it...

^^^^ completely agree.

jesse_s13

09-16-2013, 10:09 PM

LMFAO at "CFS" thats what 80 percent of 240 owners have.

I think the video was decent overall. Can't really tell where the car is going but im sure it will be trendy and most will like it.

dorkidori_s13

09-16-2013, 10:10 PM

You sound like those kids who just finished an SR swap:hey:

im far from a "kid who just finished an SR swap". ive been building s13s for 12-13 years now, and i can say BY FAR, my current s13 is quite possibly the best and most fun/easiest to drive S-Chassis ive ever built! i say "drive my car" because the entire idea behind my current restoration was to build a SLIGHTLY modified S13 that is in line with what MODERN DAY sports cars come tuned with, but to look like a completely restored classic when its done!

so dont mistake someone whos a seasoned veteran thats a little irritated at someone putting down my favorite car for an excited kid who has done his first motor swap... cause i can assure you, ive had quite a few laps around the track!

dorkidori_s13

09-16-2013, 10:14 PM

You guys are looking at brand names v.s. actual performance/sound benefits. Yes, HKS is a great brand and it's reputable but their exhaust on a N/A engine is awful. Had the exhaust been 2.5" piping, it would sound tons better and would actual provide an adequate amount of backpressure versus a 3" fart can.

^^^2nd!!!!!!

this goes for any 3" SR based exhaust on a KA...SUPER LOUD! SUPER DRONE NOISE! I had a 5Zigen A-Spec exhaust on a KA24de for a little while, felt like bumblebees were humping my ears!

silnv

09-16-2013, 10:28 PM

LMFAO at "CFS" thats what 80 percent of 240 owners have.

I think the video was decent overall. Can't really tell where the car is going but im sure it will be trendy and most will like it.

I would say LSx, don't know what other options they would have. Unless this is a "track car" only. Plus he made reference to that huge engine bay.

ixfxi

09-17-2013, 09:19 AM

needs more Jessi Lang.

riiiiiiiiight

as if we dont already have enough self-indulgent, attention-needing, quasi-car girls that whore themselves out in the industry. i dont think jessi is bad, but if she was a guy her segments wouldnt be entertaining at all. the only reason they are entertaining is due to her goofy personality. i think elena is one of the few girls that is actually into cars, and not for the attention that comes with it.

I would say LSx, don't know what other options they would have. Unless this is a "track car" only. Plus he made reference to that huge engine bay.

gee, ya think?

how many people here think this big publication is going to install an illegal (read: NON COMPLIANT) motor into their project vehicle. Regardless if its more powerful and more efficient, its illegal and that's the end of that. the only practical solution is to buy a crate motor and have it barred.

wait...... hasnt this been done already by tons of other magazines? i dont see why motor trend would waste time with this

its really a shame. its too bad there is no realistic way to make the SR20DET compliant. not trying to turn this into an LSx vs SR debate, but i'de much rather have the motor that was intended to be used by the manufacturer. besides, i dont think i'll be growing a mullet anytime soon.. and my LFA v10 swap is on hold due to unforeseen circumstances (and those circumstances are called sarcasm)

Moncef

09-17-2013, 10:14 AM

riiiiiiiiight

as if we dont already have enough self-indulgent, attention-needing, quasi-car girls that whore themselves out in the industry. i dont think jessi is bad, but if she was a guy her segments wouldnt be entertaining at all. the only reason they are entertaining is due to her goofy personality. i think elena is one of the few girls that is actually into cars, and not for the attention that comes with it.

This happens all the time.

gee, ya think?

how many people here think this big publication is going to install an illegal (read: NON COMPLIANT) motor into their project vehicle. Regardless if its more powerful and more efficient, its illegal and that's the end of that. the only practical solution is to buy a crate motor and have it barred.

wait...... hasnt this been done already by tons of other magazines? i dont see why motor trend would waste time with this

its really a shame. its too bad there is no realistic way to make the SR20DET compliant. not trying to turn this into an LSx vs SR debate, but i'de much rather have the motor that was intended to be used by the manufacturer. besides, i dont think i'll be growing a mullet anytime soon.. and my LFA v10 swap is on hold due to unforeseen circumstances (and those circumstances are called sarcasm)

Yea man, Sikky is taking forever with my LFA swap kit.

Sugoi_Style

09-17-2013, 10:46 AM

^ down to see your finished swap!

On another note, MT, though years behind other periodicals and blogs, is attempting to probe the used car market as it is the strongest market in the United States of Amexica. Im definitely not willing or wanting to see the mods about to take place. In response to the comparison of the 180 vs Soul, this alone made me unsubscribe MTs youtube channel. Oh, and a big fuck off to metrosexual journalists who cant realize the intrinsic value in a 20 year old car still in great running order. Carlos, this means you.

S14Paul

09-17-2013, 10:49 AM

I think this could turn out really cool, if they just rebuilt the suspension with either control arms or es bushings and some coilovers and sway bars, then upgraded the brakes and get an lsd, it would be cool to see the improvement from the baseline tests.
and then they can swap whatever motor they want.

zooopreme

09-17-2013, 11:31 AM

On another note, MT, though years behind other periodicals and blogs, is attempting to probe the used car market as it is the strongest market in the United States of America. I'm definitely not willing or wanting to see the mods about to take place. In response to the comparison of the 180 vs Soul, this alone made me unsubscribe MTs youtube channel. Oh, and a big fuck off to metrosexual journalists who cant realize the intrinsic value in a 20 year old car still in great running order is. Carlos, this means you.

Judging by your post, you're really butthurt over nothing. And you even stooped to "insult" the host by referring to his physical appearance. Calling somebody out on being a metrosexual is actually complimenting him. Women actually like men that take care of themselves. Now, that doesn't sound much like an insult, now does it?

What's wrong with calling it as it is? Have you forgotten that this guy has driven a bunch of cars? Whereas the average car "enthusiast" owns about ~5 (give or take) different models of cars. While I don't value his opinion as the ultimate and final say, I think he hit the money on what a stock 240 had to offer.

You are right though, for the condition that it was in the video is actually rare but what did you expect? Did you want Motor Trend to actually buy your typical 240 and write a review about how shitty people mod them these days? In my opinion, he's giving so much more credit to the S-Chassis than it actual deserves these days. 80% of the S-Chassis owner's guild/coalition/squad/team/platoon have shitty cars. Period.

dezzS13

09-17-2013, 11:36 AM

Hey look it's the same car:

http://zilvia.net/f/stolen-goods/471946-stolen-white-1993-s13-batchback-8-19-12-a.html

Dolph_KYAS13

09-17-2013, 12:12 PM

IMO motortrend has one of the best automotive channels on Youtube (you can only watch so many videos of cars sliding to music) . it has diverse selection of shows and content which is way better than their competitors (car/driver ect.) Since they are a big publication they often get designers/ engineers on their Wide open throttle videos which is very interesting.

Carlos Lago, who did that video has made other good videos in the past (RX-7 review was on point). He is a journalist, not a mechanic and I believe everyone is taking what he says to heart because we all know so much about the car and its flaws. Lets face it, everyone on here reads endlessly about these specific cars so everything he said that is not 100% correct is going to stick out like a sore thumb.

shephurd

09-17-2013, 01:23 PM

haha im watching this with an hks hp exhaust system installed in my car, thats about the best note you can get from a KA.

Sugoi_Style

09-17-2013, 01:59 PM

Given the fact that MT has extensive knowledge of cars, they may surprise noobs; however, at the end of the day, just because you have access to fashion, doesnt mean you have style. :cool: Sure, their performance add-ons might be up to snuff, but ive seen what Amexican publications do to J-spec cars. Its never pretty because they always try to please everyone and the build becomes a hodge podge of Rice with no soul.

Matej

09-17-2013, 02:08 PM

Is print media doing so bad that they cannot afford to review new cars anymore?

Sugoi_Style

09-17-2013, 02:11 PM

Judging by your post, you're really butthurt over nothing. And you even stooped to "insult" the host by referring to his physical appearance. Calling somebody out on being a metrosexual is actually complimenting him. Women actually like men that take care of themselves. Now, that doesn't sound much like an insult, now does it?

What's wrong with calling it as it is? Have you forgotten that this guy has driven a bunch of cars? Whereas the average car "enthusiast" owns about ~5 (give or take) different models of cars. While I don't value his opinion as the ultimate and final say, I think he hit the money on what a stock 240 had to offer.

You are right though, for the condition that it was in the video is actually rare but what did you expect? Did you want Motor Trend to actually buy your typical 240 and write a review about how shitty people mod them these days? In my opinion, he's giving so much more credit to the S-Chassis than it actual deserves these days. 80% of the S-Chassis owner's guild/coalition/squad/team/platoon have shitty cars. Period.

Ok, so I am alittle butthurt, but they could have given a little more praise. I guess im biased. Yes, people do stupid stuff to their 240s, but at least they're proud of their journey. Carlos has been spoiled with other rides and I can see your point there, but comparo vs Soul? Come on. Imo, metrosexuals are pretty boys who pamper themselves like women, are raised by their mothers alone, and spend too time primping just to show everyone how superficial they are. I understand that many metros drive Nissans, but most of them started with Hondas. Like I said, im biased.

A DUDE

09-17-2013, 02:18 PM

LMFAO at "CFS" thats what 80 percent of 240 owners have.

I think the video was decent overall. Can't really tell where the car is going but im sure it will be trendy and most will like it.

You guys are idiots. This video isn't to compare a Kia to a 240. They took results from a random car and said here's how the 240sx compares.

Besides you defending the S-Chassis stock "engineering" is laughable. The S13 has terrible stock brakes, stock height makes the car drive like a truck/boat, the seats are not for spirited drives, must've been a long R&D process to decide on an open diff, eh?

I agree. I don't understand why everyone's getting so defensive and insulted by this video. He's talking about a BASICALLY STOCK 240 and anyone that knows anything about automotive performance will agree that a STOCK 240's performance is a joke compared to modern standards. "Slow... braking performance, not good, seat support, not good, understeer everywhere and over steer..." i doubt anyone will disagree with these statements.

But he also commends its capabilities/potential, which is why were all here no? I'm pretty sure this crowd isn't about garage queening a stock 240. We're all about exploiting that potential and taking it up to and some beyond its limits haha.
Pretty sure that's what MotorTrend is doing in this series.

I'm excited for this series and honestly if anything this will boost the 240 community and hey if anyone's looking to sell, these babies might just raise in value.
Looking forward to the series :rawk:

Oi! MotorTrend you can use my car as a sister project if you'd like haha ;)

Hey look it's the same car:

http://zilvia.net/f/stolen-goods/471946-stolen-white-1993-s13-batchback-8-19-12-a.html

HAHAHAHA that's pretty hilarious! must have gotten it at a great price or maybe MotorTrend were the ones who got the 5FingerDiscount :D

mechanicalmoron

09-17-2013, 03:17 PM

I agree. I don't understand why everyone's getting so defensive and insulted by this video. He's talking about a BASICALLY STOCK 240 and anyone that knows anything about automotive performance will agree that a STOCK 240's performance is a joke compared to modern standards. "Slow... braking performance, not good, seat support, not good, understeer everywhere and over steer..." i doubt anyone will disagree with these statements.

But he also commends its capabilities/potential, which is why were all here no? I'm pretty sure this crowd isn't about garage queening a stock 240. We're all about exploiting that potential and taking it up to and some beyond its limits haha.
Pretty sure that's what MotorTrend is doing in this series.

I'm excited for this series and honestly if anything this will boost the 240 community and hey if anyone's looking to sell, these babies might just raise in value.
Looking forward to the series :rawk:

Oi! MotorTrend you can use my car as a sister project if you'd like haha ;)

HAHAHAHA that's pretty hilarious! must have gotten it at a great price or maybe MotorTrend were the ones who got the 5FingerDiscount :D

Well, does he want over steer, or under steer? The car's going to do one or the other, if he's complaining about both, that makes it sound closer to neutral, and thus ideal, than it really is....

As for brakes, it's the cool thing to complain about little brakes that are actually designed for the car they're on, but they can lock the wheels.... what more could you possibly want? once they're slipping, they're slipping, and more brake is bad, not good.

Him looking metrosexual doesn't have much to do with anything, but he doesn't sound totally fair on some of it. Like, he says he THINK the car has ABS, like that's something you want on a sports car? Even as he accepts that part of the appeal of sports cars of this era is being reasonably modern (like power steering) but still pretty much manual. Like, if someone on a site like this points out the weaknesses of the 240 with that sort of attitude, that's fine, they can do that, they're in the club and can talk, but when he puts the car out of context like that, it's a bit infuriating - like hah, look at this cheap rear wheel drive sports car with one of the strongest aftermarkets it the world, how lame. Wait, what?

ghoti

09-17-2013, 08:44 PM

im far from a "kid who just finished an SR swap"....
TL;DR
Calm your tits, I said sound not "you are".

Calling somebody out on being a metrosexual is actually complimenting him.

:facepalm: Pretty sure he called him a metrosexual since he doesn't want to get pinked.

Sugoi_Style

09-17-2013, 10:16 PM

Forgot, Opinions dont matter on this site. Ethugs litter it.

Bushido

09-17-2013, 10:40 PM

that dude is a cocksmoka

KiLLeR2001

09-18-2013, 01:40 AM

Hey look it's the same car:

http://zilvia.net/f/stolen-goods/471946-stolen-white-1993-s13-batchback-8-19-12-a.html

http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/514226-1993-nissan-240sx-clean-hatch-title.html

Must be, who would pay $4700 for that unless they had the money to spend. LOL.

aga

09-18-2013, 03:44 AM

maybe motortrend stole the car, ragged it, stole his stuff then dumped it :D

ixfxi

09-18-2013, 08:31 AM

Every time I see a perfectly stock S13 on the road, I always think to myself what it would be like to pick it up and have as a spare car. In the end, I always talk myself out of it and say "who the fuck would want to drive a stock s13?"

Its not bad by any means, but it sure isnt great either. The brakes are standard, the tires are standard, everything is very mediocre. Even when you try to exit the car, the car says no... and the auto seatbelts JAM and lock you into place for another couple minutes until you either close the door or unclip the top belt. Its like an evil episode of Knight Rider with Karr or watching Christine the horror movie. And the OE seats are aweful, they really end up hurting your back.

As *we* all know, the car takes well to modifications.. which is why these cars have a following. But it takes a lot of know-how to separate the good modifications from the bad ones. I can only hope that Carlos and crew at Motor Trend at least consult with someone who knows their shit. Someone previously mentioned installing urethane bushings, but even that is not a proper fix. Its either new rubber bushings or going hardcore with rose joints. There is a reason why the car did not behave proper (either over-steering or under-steering) and thats because the rear subframe bushings are fucked and the rear is flopping around. Again, what does Carlos know? He's constantly test driving PERFECTLY new cars that have no faults, right?

No matter, the video appears to be a teaser of whats to come. Kinda of like when they do a home-make-over. Its all for show.

Calling somebody out on being a metrosexual is actually complimenting him. Women actually like men that take care of themselves.

I was thinking of how to respond to this comment, but I think Ice Cube's lyrics sum it up best:

Fuck wit' me, ya get ya meat and ya vegetables
Fuck wit' him, ya get a fuckin metrosexual
You want a man stronger than you
Not a motherfucker in the mirror longer than you
Break a nail and his punk ass lookin for glue
You want a n*gga wit' a hard dick lookin at you

silviaks2nr

09-18-2013, 10:16 AM

IAmTheS13

09-18-2013, 10:24 AM

The car was posted for sale for $4495. Why would they pay $4700? Motor Trend can buy my car.

crunchy_g

09-18-2013, 10:45 AM

I personally think it is cool that Motor Trend is taking interest & modifying a 20 year old car. Who knows what they & we may learn from it. I'm excited to see the end results. Hopefully Motor Trend won't take the cheap route & do mods that will teach the newer/younger generation of S-chasis enthusiasts how to do it right.

Sugoi_Style

09-18-2013, 01:19 PM

that dude is a cocksmoka

Who do you mean?

waxball88

09-18-2013, 03:00 PM

Who do you mean?
He's a decennary OG
He can say whatever he pleases.

racepar1

09-18-2013, 03:09 PM

That's my buddy's old car. I actually built that car twice. Once, originally, and the second time after it was stolen and recovered. It's pretty cool to see it going to to bigger and better things. That was a super clean car as well. I'll tell you one thing, you guys don't wanna know how much they had to fork over to buy that thing off my buddy...

http://zilvia.net/f/stolen-goods/471946-stolen-white-1993-s13-batchback-8-19-12-a.html

racepar1

09-18-2013, 03:13 PM

I was thinking of how to respond to this comment, but I think Ice Cube's lyrics sum it up best:

Fuck wit' me, ya get ya meat and ya vegetables
Fuck wit' him, ya get a fuckin metrosexual
You want a man stronger than you
Not a motherfucker in the mirror longer than you
Break a nail and his punk ass lookin for glue
You want a n*gga wit' a hard dick lookin at you

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I should have read the whole thread before responding!

:stupid:

:werd:

:snoop:

:Owned:

simmode1

09-18-2013, 04:11 PM

Personally, I'm looking forward to their build. Even though we all know they're gonna throw an LSx in there, seeing the suspension & chassis build-up should be interesting. But then again, they certainly won't be doing anything this community hasn't seen a million times already... There really isn't much new ground to break with this chassis.

But I'd love to see a mild build face off against a stock FRS/BRZ though... lol

vehicle336

09-19-2013, 11:20 AM

Should be interesting to see what a publication with money (and sponsors I'm sure) actually end up doing. Maybe they'll even buy non-knock-off parts.

Either way, this bandwagon is starting to get a little crowded.

jesse_s13

09-21-2013, 09:56 AM

On a side note, this may add more publicity on a already "Hot" car. Good and bad for the most part.

I do hope they do a base line track event after they address maintenance issues with the car. So after they swap or upgrade it we can have actual number to compare it to.

Scope240sx

09-21-2013, 04:57 PM

I hope he 3rd gear understeers into a massive guard rail on camera.

win

ixfxi

09-27-2013, 05:18 PM

3H8ItG5SK9o

i was wondering where all the junk 240s in our community race at....

i didnt know there was an adams raceway in the east coast, rad

Corbic

09-27-2013, 06:27 PM

That is actually a really clean hatch. I hope they don't destroy it with trendy styling.

Better than 60% of the cars on here...

Corbic

09-27-2013, 06:28 PM

i was wondering where all the junk 240s in our community race at....

i didnt know there was an adams raceway in the east coast, rad

I must be getting old. 7 years ago I would have thought that shit was awesome... now I just think it's shit.

Corbic

09-27-2013, 06:32 PM

Maybe they'll even buy non-knock-off parts.

Like Ksport, Godspeed and Megan? You realize that people outside of the community have no idea what a "knock part off" is for a 240sx. ISIS, HKS, Tomei, Bride, Chase-Aero, DOC... these are all just silly names to outsiders.

Either way, this bandwagon is starting to get a little crowded.

The goal should be to drive prices to stratospheric levels and price out the idiots.

Corbic

09-27-2013, 08:51 PM

gee, ya think?

how many people here think this big publication is going to install an illegal (read: NON COMPLIANT) motor into their project vehicle. Regardless if its more powerful and more efficient, its illegal and that's the end of that. the only practical solution is to buy a crate motor and have it barred.

Hmmm... but where could Motor Trend get a turn key, California Smog/Carb complaint crate motor from... one that would be easy to drop into a 240sx, requiring practically nothing but bolt on parts and a snap and go harness...

Does such a thing even exist?

http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/800/809/809-19257230_freeship.jpg

$7k, 6.2L 430hp E-Rod LS3. GM loves them boys in Kalaforna

Chaluska

09-27-2013, 09:01 PM

The goal should be to drive prices to stratospheric levels and price out the idiots.

Stupidest post on zilvia.

Why the HELL would more expensive mods be good for anything? it would just encourage MORE knockoffs.

and id like to see your extensive list of high dollar baller Name brand mods, and the probably equally extensive list of "knockoff / generic" parts on the car.

the S chassis is soon becoming extinct.. as all the bandwagoning drifter JDM tyte fan boi's keep buying good cars, sticker bombing them, and then drifting them into curbs and street poles.

dont worry about the S chassis bandwagoning, the 350z is next

Matej

09-27-2013, 09:14 PM

The S-chassis is not going to go extinct. Someone will start making tube frame/knockoff S-chassis, at least S13 fastbacks.

No one cares about the 350Z. It was mildly popular for a while because it was new. Same with the 370Z.

And who cares about what some generic Sunday driver magazine does with a cheap 20-year old Nissan. I have not read a single Motor Trend article in my life, and I bet their core audience can care less about a 240SX. They are probably just trying to be hip and capture new readership.

LS1 2 3, blah blah. I hope they swap a Tesla motor in it.

Corbic

09-27-2013, 10:55 PM

Stupidest post on zilvia.

Why the HELL would more expensive mods be good for anything? it would just encourage MORE knockoffs.

Go back to school, Idiot.

I'm talking about the cars. If a base 240sx was $6k half our problems would be solved.

and id like to see your extensive list of high dollar baller Name brand mods, and the probably equally extensive list of "knockoff / generic" parts on the car.

No Knock-Offs on my whip bro, I'm running OEM Type-X even.

ixfxi

09-27-2013, 11:45 PM

Go back to school, Idiot.
I'm talking about the cars. If a base 240sx was $6k half our problems would be solved.
No Knock-Offs on my whip bro, I'm running OEM Type-X even.

for some reason, im finding your posts more and more amusing...

Hmmm... but where could Motor Trend get a turn key, California Smog/Carb complaint crate motor from... one that would be easy to drop into a 240sx, requiring practically nothing but bolt on parts and a snap and go harness...

Does such a thing even exist?

http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/800/809/809-19257230_freeship.jpg

$7k, 6.2L 430hp E-Rod LS3. GM loves them boys in Kalaforna

FREEEEE [email protected][email protected][email protected]

O
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in all honesty, as much as i despise the LS way of life... its still nice to have a last-ditch alternative. maybe if i am down and out one day

(assuming that my LFA v10 swap doesnt work out)

Kanto

09-28-2013, 12:19 AM

Look forward to what they do. Hopefully it will have the proper mods and some useful tips or something.

lflkajfj12123

09-28-2013, 01:01 AM

SimpleS14

09-28-2013, 04:47 AM

I'm in the group that's suspecting they will swap in a LSx motor. MT had a few episodes sponsored by K&N, so it would be too much of a surprise to see some sponsoring from them in this car.

zerodameaon

09-28-2013, 05:10 AM

i didnt know there was an adams raceway in the east coast, rad

Adams is a shithole. So glad they never got their corrupt licensing program off the ground, not that any of the current ones might be any better but still.

That E-Rod swap is nice to have but really it is better off in something else. Also has there been another attempt to get that thing to bar in a S13? I know the last one was close but it still technically failed and he never attempted again due to his relocation.

ixfxi

09-28-2013, 09:13 AM

there are a lot of people with compliant v8 motors in their s13s

my friend runs a smog shop and actually passed one a few months ago

Nategreat923

09-28-2013, 11:01 AM

I just caught the last few minutes of Horsepowertv (I think its called), and they were dropping a LS into a black Zenki. It looked super clean! They were adding a ChaseBay radiator when I turned it on.

racepar1

09-28-2013, 11:58 AM

And who cares about what some generic Sunday driver magazine does with a cheap 20-year old Nissan. I have not read a single Motor Trend article in my life, and I bet their core audience can care less about a 240SX. They are probably just trying to be hip and capture new readership.

Yeah, they don't talk about "drift" cars or shitty knockoff parts. I'm not surprised that you've never read it.

:eek2:

Matej

09-28-2013, 12:27 PM

Yeah, they don't talk about "drift" cars or shitty knockoff parts. I'm not surprised that you've never read it.

:eek2:
It is quite understandable that they are preoccupied with important matters such as comparing how a new Chevrolet Malibu performs versus a new Honda Accord on the Nürburgring.

S14DB

09-28-2013, 12:29 PM

racepar1

09-28-2013, 01:00 PM

It is quite understandable that they are preoccupied with important matters such as comparing how a new Chevrolet Malibu performs versus a new Honda Accord on the Nürburgring.

Yeah, yeah, that's all they do. There aren't any interesting articles on anything else. They don't spend most of their time comparing sports cars either. It's all econoboxes for Motor Trend.

Fucking 240 guys. Not a single fucking one of you jackasses is an actual AUTOMOTIVE ENTHUSIAST. Just a bunch of dumbasses jumping on the bandwaggon so you can hang with the cool kids right. You get no respect from me...

Corbic

09-28-2013, 01:12 PM

joe3180

09-28-2013, 01:13 PM

since when has a 180sx been called a silvia...numerous wrong statements...do your homework guy.

Matej

09-28-2013, 01:14 PM

Fucking 240 guys. Not a single fucking one of you jackasses is an actual AUTOMOTIVE ENTHUSIAST. Just a bunch of dumbasses jumping on the bandwaggon so you can hang with the cool kids right. You get no respect from me...
All the other cars that interest me are obscure and unattainable, and I can find out about them on my own. I do not need Motor Trend to tell me about how the Ginetta G50 does not have enough passenger side air bags.

As for jumping on a bandwaggon, my S13 has been my first and only car since 2005, and I can care less if there is a wagon for it to jump on. :)

Corbic

09-28-2013, 01:15 PM

Yeah, they don't talk about "drift" cars or shitty knockoff parts. I'm not surprised that you've never read it.

:eek2:

Bingo. Its a good cheap read ($8 a year?) to keep up with the latest design and industry trends.

It's also convenient because I would never bother to search the Internet for Corolla specs... but as this video showed...its a sobering fact that a kia soul matchs a 90's sports car in specs.

racepar1

09-28-2013, 01:35 PM

As for jumping on a bandwaggon, my S13 has been my first and only car since 2005, and I can care less if there is a wagon for it to jump on. :)

Yeah, yeah, beacuse there wasn't a bandwaggon in 2005 right???

Bingo. Its a good cheap read ($8 a year?) to keep up with the latest design and industry trends.

It's also convenient because I would never bother to search the Internet for Corolla specs... but as this video showed...its a sobering fact that a kia soul matchs a 90's sports car in specs.

EXACTLY. There is more to cars than a "drift style" 240sx...

silviaks2nr

10-09-2013, 09:49 AM

Where are the other episodes? I want to see what they do with this POS

aga

10-10-2013, 12:03 AM

Fucking 240 guys. Not a single fucking one of you jackasses is an actual AUTOMOTIVE ENTHUSIAST..

whew i barely escaped your insult since i have a 200sx! relax guy. not everybody has the money to buy what they want. i would love an ultima but...

gbaby2089

10-10-2013, 08:08 AM

Fucking 240 guys. Not a single fucking one of you jackasses is an actual AUTOMOTIVE ENTHUSIAST. Just a bunch of dumbasses jumping on the bandwaggon so you can hang with the cool kids right. You get no respect from me...

Hey man, not everyone wants to read poorly written articles about cars that are one of two things:
-Completely unattainable
-Boring/Mundane stock cookie cutter cars

Just because you don't want to read about those things doesn't mean you're not a car enthusiast. For being so dismissive of so many other car 'enthusiasts,' wouldn't you be the non-enthusiast?

kevinphan

10-10-2013, 08:13 AM

There is more to cars than a "drift style" 240sx...

Are you still driving an unpainted Silvia front on your car? Talk about style haha

teh smithers

10-10-2013, 08:43 AM

racepar1

10-10-2013, 10:59 AM

Hey man, not everyone wants to read poorly written articles about cars that are one of two things:
-Completely unattainable
-Boring/Mundane stock cookie cutter cars

Just because you don't want to read about those things doesn't mean you're not a car enthusiast. For being so dismissive of so many other car 'enthusiasts,' wouldn't you be the non-enthusiast?

Dreaming of the un-attainable is typical of every TRUE car enthusiast. If your automotive vision is so narrow that all you can appreciate is "JDM tuner" cars then you are not an automotive enthusiast in my eyes. I'm not saying that you have to religiously read magazines like motor trend and car and driver. However, if you refuse to pick one up and talk shit about what they do you need to expand your horizons. There are a lot of interesting things out there not related to "JDM" or "drifting"...

Are you still driving an unpainted Silvia front on your car? Talk about style haha

First off, I'm not in this for style. I'm into cars because I love to tinker with them and drive the piss-shit out of them. I'm in this to make my cars fast. That car with the unpainted front end was fast. I tracked the shit out of that car.

Second, that pic is from 2008 dude. Whose car looks exactly the same as it did 5 years ago??? I'm on my second other 240sx since then. This one is thankfully one color, albeit with shitty paint for now.

Good job guys. Those posts are only like what, two weeks old. Next time maybe you could dig some posts up from a year or two ago to talk shit about...

:spank:

S14DB

10-10-2013, 12:08 PM

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Corbic

10-10-2013, 12:51 PM

Hey man, not everyone wants to read poorly written articles about cars that are one of two things:
-Completely unattainable
-Boring/Mundane cookie cutter *modified* cars

I thought we were talking about Motor Tend, not Import Tuner and Super Street.

Or are you saying you just don't read in general?

racepar1

10-10-2013, 01:19 PM

I thought we were talking about Motor Tend, not Import Tuner and Super Street.

Or are you saying you just don't read in general?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Kudos, that was a good one!

:bigok:

IIIXziuR

10-10-2013, 01:26 PM

This is like your grandpa trying to learn breakdancing.

Hahaha this is amazing

gbaby2089

10-10-2013, 04:18 PM

I thought we were talking about Motor Tend, not Import Tuner and Super Street.

Or are you saying you just don't read in general?

I'm including all automotive magazines in this category. Dudes who go into automotive journalism don't do so because they have mastered the English language. In other words, there are no Thompsons, Hemingways, Steinbecks, etc., working for MT/R&T/C&D/etc.

Do I aspire to know what the new Ferrari/McLaren hypercar looks like? Sure, am I going to suffer through poorly written article after poorly written article to get that? Nope.

Your beliefs that is necessary to read that drivel just further weakens your credibility.

Corbic

10-10-2013, 04:27 PM

Do I aspire to know what the new Ferrari/McLaren hypercar looks like? Sure, am I going to suffer through poorly written article after poorly written article to get that? Nope.

So you choose blogs and internet forums instead..... :rolleyes:

gbaby2089

10-10-2013, 04:39 PM

So you choose blogs and internet forums instead..... :rolleyes:

Nope. I'll just wait until /Drive on YT, Top Gear or Fifth Gear puts out a review. I am in no rush to get this information, I prefer cheap, small, low powered 90's Japanese cars. They are not the only cars I enjoy, they just fit conveniently within my interests as well as my pocketbook.

I don't read any publications/etc., about new cars unless I'm in the market for a new daily, but that's been a couple years and will be many more.

racepar1

10-10-2013, 05:00 PM

Nope. I'll just wait until /Drive on YT, Top Gear or Fifth Gear puts out a review.

I don't read any publications/etc., about new cars unless I'm in the market for a new daily, but that's been a couple years and will be many more.

So then you don't read...

...GOT IT!

:goyou:

gbaby2089

10-10-2013, 06:24 PM

Don't read car magazines.

I read real books, newspapers, etc. Not reading car magazines != not reading.

racepar1

10-10-2013, 06:31 PM

Don't read car magazines.

I read real books, newspapers, etc. Not reading car magazines != not reading.

Awwwww, look at you!

Tryin' to sound all smart and such...

:eek2:

gbaby2089

10-10-2013, 06:35 PM

Not at all, whatever man. Step back up onto your high horse, the rest of us will gladly stay down here.

danny92

10-10-2013, 06:56 PM

This thread makes me lol.

Corbic

10-10-2013, 07:00 PM

Awwwww, look at you!

Tryin' to sound all smart and such...

:eek2:

He watches Top Gear, a show that targets complete fucking dumb-asses. It actually makes people stupider, because they sit there and take their idiotic jokes and antics to heart and end up believing their bullshit.

racepar1

10-10-2013, 10:58 PM

Not at all, whatever man. Step back up onto your high horse, the rest of us will gladly stay down here.

Yeah, I'm fucking with you dude. COMPLETELY on purpose, it's funny...

:keke:

HyperTek

10-10-2013, 11:02 PM

It could always be worse, like this Drive feature
ZcjpXbMiCtg
Im not a fan of this car, but this youtube channel has had some pretty entertaining videos. Obviously the car is a pile of crap, shouldn't be any surprise that a v8 in a light car is gonna be pretty fast.
The kid had that car on ebay recently, trying to get like $20k for or something, saying he is gonna build a drift Rolls Royce or someshit next.

This wasnt a bad video either by Drive (off topic: no 240sx mention) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WexcymGWyrY

I respect MT, you can't always expect automotive journalist to be hardcore enthusiast to one single car like we may be. but I can imagine them putting an SR in it and beefing it up more towards its JDM homeland counterpart, than comparing it to say more modern cars like the FRS etc.

jzepol1985

10-10-2013, 11:51 PM

Corbin Goodwin owner of the ratrod '84 Mazda RX7 finally finds a buyer - Fresno Car Buying | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/corbin-goodwin-owner-of-the-ratrod-84-mazda-rx7-finally-finds-a-buyer)

jumboflan

10-11-2013, 12:37 AM

I didn't notice.at.first, but he reminds me of Paul walker. Just a little. No?

mechanicalmoron

10-11-2013, 08:18 AM

It could always be worse, like this Drive feature
ZcjpXbMiCtg
Im not a fan of this car, but this youtube channel has had some pretty entertaining videos. Obviously the car is a pile of crap, shouldn't be any surprise that a v8 in a light car is gonna be pretty fast.
The kid had that car on ebay recently, trying to get like $20k for or something, saying he is gonna build a drift Rolls Royce or someshit next.

This wasnt a bad video either by Drive (off topic: no 240sx mention) The Three Japanese Sports Cars You Need To Buy Now -- AFTER/DRIVE - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WexcymGWyrY)

I respect MT, you can't always expect automotive journalist to be hardcore enthusiast to one single car like we may be. but I can imagine them putting an SR in it and beefing it up more towards its JDM homeland counterpart, than comparing it to say more modern cars like the FRS etc.

The car is neat, but the stickers are douchey, and it's creator is way less cool than the car.

Also, not fixing things that effect it's driving, like not getting fuel in turns, or unpredictable suspension, should obviously be a priority - not diggin' that.

ixfxi

10-11-2013, 09:41 AM

EO2y_-vpolA

whats with everyone nowadays

they watch one magnus walker video and now everything needs its own video showing how distinct and special it is

its just a car.

---+

10-11-2013, 10:04 AM

EO2y_-vpolA

whats with everyone nowadays

they watch one magnus walker video and now everything needs its own video showing how distinct and special it is

its just a car.

That's a pretty awesome car. Its not like that clapped out RX7. :picardfp:

racepar1

10-11-2013, 10:07 AM

whats with everyone nowadays

they watch one magnus walker video and now everything needs its own video showing how distinct and special it is

its just a car.

I blame the internet. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc...

People seem to have this opinion now-a-days that they're all important and need to share all their random thoughts and feelings with the whole world.

:picardfp:

Corbic

10-11-2013, 10:35 AM

whats with everyone nowadays

they watch one magnus walker video and now everything needs its own video showing how distinct and special it is

its just a car.

I made it to 3 minutes and had to stop.

First, the guy is a whiny douche. With his comments like "cause I speak Japanese". He also lacks even a shred of the charisma that Walker comes of with.

Second, the video is terrible. Poor music, not enough echoing twin carbs down twisting mountain passes.

Urban Outlaw is a fantastic short movie. High production values, great scenery and driving shots. Mangus just pulls it together playing off the mystic of porsche with his "down to earth" appearance and well spoken British accent.

What I found fascinating about Walker was not his Porsches, but his story of how he came to America as basically a homeless immigrant, and became a successful entrepreneur and is able to live his dream.

At no point did I get the feeling he is a poser. These other kids and their "lifestyle" crap - posers.

ixfxi

10-11-2013, 10:49 AM

I made it to 3 minutes and had to stop.

First, the guy is a whiny douche. With his comments like "cause I speak Japanese". He also lacks even a shred of the charisma that Walker comes of with.

Second, the video is terrible. Poor music, not enough echoing twin carbs down twisting mountain passes.

Urban Outlaw is a fantastic short movie. High production values, great scenery and driving shots. Mangus just pulls it together playing off the mystic of porsche with his "down to earth" appearance and well spoken British accent.

What I found fascinating about Walker was not his Porsches, but his story of how he came to America as basically a homeless immigrant, and became a successful entrepreneur and is able to live his dream.

At no point did I get the feeling he is a poser. These other kids and their "lifestyle" crap - posers.

the first video i saw months ago, its only good for comic value. the unfortunate thing is that the kid will one day look back and say "what the fuck was i thinking" with that heap of a car..

the second video is of slidesquad dave, i think he's been around the community for a long time. i never met him though. as for the video, well... it is what it is. not as high production value as magnus video, but i bet they didnt spend a fraction of the coin. from what i gather, the magnus video cost a pretty penny... not to mention, look at the credits, lots of people were involved with that video.

if anyone has not seen it (yet)... which would surprise me, here is the link:
https://www.reelhouse.org/mos/urbanoutlaw/urbanoutlaw

i like magnus and his mission, cars look nice... just excessively porsche-centric but whatever, its his thing

e1_griego

10-11-2013, 10:55 AM

This one is much better:

One Car to Do It All on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/57909173)

racepar1

10-11-2013, 11:08 AM

the second video is of slidesquad dave, i think he's been around the community for a long time. i never met him though. as for the video, well... it is what it is. not as high production value as magnus video, but i bet they didnt spend a fraction of the coin. from what i gather, the magnus video cost a pretty penny... not to mention, look at the credits, lots of people were involved with that video.

Damn, Dave's STILL around with his Z?

I met him when he first sold his EF and got the Z, looks nice!

Brian

10-11-2013, 11:09 AM

IDK, Dave has been doing the S30 thing FOREVER.

Brian

10-11-2013, 11:23 AM

whats with everyone nowadays

Look buddy, I don't know who you are or what your story is but I think you better get a new hobby.

I've been into this scene for a long time and I know several people in the industry. With an attitude like yours, we don't need you here. If you EVER thought you were going to get a hookup on some aftermarket parts for your 240, you can think again.
I know managers, sales reps, and pro drivers, and you can be sure I am going to put your name on the shit list. Have fun trying to mod your 240 now, BRO.
:fawk2:

racepar1

10-11-2013, 11:29 AM

^^^Your "colorful" neon avatat just gave me a seizure, I'm calling a lawyer...^^^

:keke:

EDIT: It also made me dislexic as I mis-spelled "avatar", that qualifies as "pain and suffering"...

Corbic

10-11-2013, 11:31 AM

racepar1

10-11-2013, 11:33 AM

.....not sure if serious...

NEVER, EVER!!!, take Brian serious. He's not.

I thought I had already covered that earlier in this thread...

Brian

10-11-2013, 11:41 AM

I guess you guys don't get it. I'm going to assume you all rep the same team, so lemme set this straight rite now.

I run the crew VH8'N out of SoCal and we basically own the street scene. (in case you DIDNT know). I got guys in my crew that run 110mph trap speeds and aren't scared of racing for pinks. We got other guys that kill it at Adams for the weekly drift sessions. In FACT, one of our crew is about to get his FORMULA D license. I don't know if you ever heard of that... pff, loudmouths.
Street, Track, dyno... we got all 3 on lock.

I suggest all 3 of you stop hiding behind your keyboards and show some respect. If VH8'N cars dont scare you, I know I WILL. You're messing with somebody that did P90X THREE TIMES

Bishes.........

Corbic

10-11-2013, 11:51 AM

NEVER, EVER!!!, take Brian serious. He's not.

I thought I had already covered that earlier in this thread...

I'm just trying to understand who he is making fun of. A general statement or is he been satirical of a particular person/thing.

ixfxi

10-11-2013, 12:00 PM

Look buddy, I don't know who you are or what your story is but I think you better get a new hobby.

I've been into this scene for a long time and I know several people in the industry. With an attitude like yours, we don't need you here. If you EVER thought you were going to get a hookup on some aftermarket parts for your 240, you can think again.
I know managers, sales reps, and pro drivers, and you can be sure I am going to put your name on the shit list. Have fun trying to mod your 240 now, BRO.
:fawk2:

1) p90x is for bitches. real men drink pussy juice and eat raw eggs
2) fuck your v8. i told you ALL, my LFA v10 will put an end to all of your bullshit racing careers
3) fuck adams raceway. real Gs race at the compton speedway and build motors at CPR

you're done! get the fukk outta here

- popcopy president

racepar1

10-11-2013, 12:02 PM

I'm just trying to understand who he is making fun of. A general statement or is he been satirical of a particular person/thing.

He's making fun of Mike (ixfxifixifxifxixfdifsdjoafjasd) and anyone else who wants to take him seriously.

This is Brian's MO and also why he's got enough fanboys on his dick to keep his ballsack empty for the forseeable future. I'm actually a little jealous, my penis could use some fanboy love...

:naughty:

Brian

10-11-2013, 12:02 PM

It's time to pop off.

racepar1

10-11-2013, 12:04 PM

God damnit! Don't you assholes have work to do or something???

I've got work to do and you're all distracting me!

:squint:

Corbic

10-11-2013, 12:35 PM

He's making fun of Mike (ixfxifixifxifxixfdifsdjoafjasd) and anyone else who wants to take him seriously.

This is Brian's MO and also why he's got enough fanboys on his dick to keep his ballsack empty for the forseeable future. I'm actually a little jealous, my penis could use some fanboy love...

:naughty:

They just want a father figure in their lives.

Akiros

10-11-2013, 10:48 PM

Lol at the slow motion on the shitty worn down 20+ year old seat.

teh smithers

10-15-2013, 02:43 AM

I blame the internet. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc...

People seem to have this opinion now-a-days that they're all important and need to share all their random thoughts and feelings with the whole world.

:picardfp:

Your keyboard appears to be imitating a mirror.

He's making fun of Mike (ixfxifixifxifxixfdifsdjoafjasd) and anyone else who wants to take him seriously.

This is Brian's MO and also why he's got enough fanboys on his dick to keep his ballsack empty for the forseeable future. I'm actually a little jealous, my penis could use some fanboy love...

:naughty:

omg please stop

no

omg

Purestock240

10-15-2013, 06:23 AM

there has already been an E-rod s13 build by a popular muscle car magazine. black type x hatchback. theres info on it on here and the owners pretty cool.

electric drift car- yes please

racepar1

10-15-2013, 10:19 AM

Your keyboard appears to be imitating a mirror.

omg please stop

no

omg

You taking a number in line? It'll be a while, Brian's booked...

:keke:

ixfxi

10-15-2013, 03:08 PM

S14DB

10-15-2013, 06:52 PM

Q-zDZtZH_TI

you know, i subscribe to bullshit on youtube like NEWEGG TV so that I can get away from the car community.... and what do i see, more car shit.

formula D - do people even watch this shit? since when do computer nerds pay attention to racing?

fuck...
Newegg.com - Automotive Parts and Accessories (http://www.newegg.com/Auto/PromotionStore/ID-19)

Newegg is taking on Amazon...

ixfxi

10-15-2013, 09:05 PM

Newegg is taking on Amazon...

yeah, im aware of that... but its senseless

event coverage? amazon never covered a drift event.... but newegg will? senseless.

i can see the execs now... they're bored one day, looking at photos on zilvia

clueless worker> you know boss, theres good money to make on these drift cars
master exec> excellent. gear up the website.

too bad they dont know how busted the community is. brian harte dont buy no stinking PARTS, sheeeeat...

besides, if i want photos i just go on frsports website. if i want to buy parts, i buy from phase2

Brian

10-16-2013, 10:51 AM

just checking in...

racepar1

10-16-2013, 11:05 AM

just checking in...

You're late...

:w00t:

Future240

10-16-2013, 11:55 AM

yeah, im aware of that... but its senseless

event coverage? amazon never covered a drift event.... but newegg will? senseless.

Quite. We all know it is going to be a bunch of parts that are too poor in quality to even be called knock offs.

Like (http://www.amazon.com/Nissan-Reverse-Gauges-Instrument-Cluster/dp/B008UCQZTA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-1&keywords=240sx) this (http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Decals-OBJECTS-Pathfinder-Frontier/dp/B002EFLA44/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-5&keywords=240sx) crap (http://www.amazon.com/thinks-240SX-nissan-window-sticker/dp/B004KJ4EOU/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-8&keywords=240sx) sold (http://www.amazon.com/Nissan-Silvia-Intake-Included-Sr-ns001r/dp/B00425TFH8/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-13&keywords=240sx) here. (http://www.amazon.com/Spyder-Auto-ALT-JY-N240SX89H-BK-Nissan-240SX/dp/B0079Z8600/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-16&keywords=240sx)

and that was just the first page.

Frank_Jaeger

10-16-2013, 12:07 PM

Like (http://www.amazon.com/Nissan-Reverse-Gauges-Instrument-Cluster/dp/B008UCQZTA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-1&keywords=240sx) this (http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Decals-OBJECTS-Pathfinder-Frontier/dp/B002EFLA44/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-5&keywords=240sx) crap (http://www.amazon.com/thinks-240SX-nissan-window-sticker/dp/B004KJ4EOU/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-8&keywords=240sx) sold (http://www.amazon.com/Nissan-Silvia-Intake-Included-Sr-ns001r/dp/B00425TFH8/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-13&keywords=240sx) here. (http://www.amazon.com/Spyder-Auto-ALT-JY-N240SX89H-BK-Nissan-240SX/dp/B0079Z8600/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1381945858&sr=8-16&keywords=240sx)
I just put all of these on my Amazon Store Credit Card. Keep them coming.

Brian

10-16-2013, 12:10 PM

What is new egg? I'm not hip to whatever it is

racepar1

10-16-2013, 12:23 PM

What is new egg? I'm not hip to whatever it is

I'm with Brian on this one...

Rich260z

10-16-2013, 02:31 PM

New egg is a tech company, think online fry's.

Frank_Jaeger

10-16-2013, 02:42 PM

Newegg is the only place I buy computer components from, which is what they originally dealt with. They're trying hard to expand into everything.

racepar1

10-16-2013, 03:19 PM

Newegg is the only place I buy computer components from, which is what they originally dealt with. They're trying hard to expand into everything.

Ah, that explains the Amazon reference...

If I can't buy or sell used car parts there I've probably never heard of it, unless it's a porn site that is...

:wackit:

KiLLeR2001

10-16-2013, 06:24 PM

I swear I've seen NewEgg selling automotive parts before...

FRpilot

11-01-2013, 09:44 PM

It could always be worse, like this Drive feature
ZcjpXbMiCtg

It makes perfect sense that this POS pops up on NorCal craigslist.

1984 FB Mazda RX7 -- 302 V8 Swapped (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4157635276.html)

WristWork

11-01-2013, 09:48 PM

1984 FB Mazda RX7 -- 302 V8 Swapped (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4157635276.html)

Is "Turns heads wherever you go" suppose to be a good thing?
:ugh:

stilmissmysti

11-02-2013, 06:15 AM

P4l .........

Farzam

11-05-2013, 02:54 AM

Y'all are so angry and take shit cars too seriously...I used to think flaming kids/getting flamed on here was cool till I got a real paycheck, lol y'all should try it sometime!

Wasn't the best video ever, but I feel like it served it's purpose reasonably well. Coulda been MUCH worse coming from Motor Trend...the v8 vs. turbo video was pretty fire, since real enthusiasts were talking 90% of the time (take notes, Motor Trend!)...and that rx-7 kid seems like a Big Bang Theory reject, so I don't blame him for being such a tool, he was just stoked. I do like how much character his car has, from the battery tie down with the Titanic quote to the hooker business cards from Vegas...lol

PS Super stoked brian and Mike/ixfxi still exist. Matej too, he's so dreamy.

rwtf

11-05-2013, 06:10 AM

yyeeaahh driftingg yeeaaahhh

racepar1

11-05-2013, 09:51 AM

yyeeaahh driftingg yeeaaahhh

Actually it's "ooohhhhhh yeaaaaaaaa, drifting yeaaaaaaaaa"...

If you're going to rock the Jersey Shore/kool-aid man quote at least do it right...

:D

ZX88

11-05-2013, 05:32 PM

part 2. buy ebay parts

dudermagee

11-05-2013, 07:01 PM

It makes perfect sense that this POS pops up on NorCal craigslist.

1984 FB Mazda RX7 -- 302 V8 Swapped (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4157635276.html)

I hate that fucking thing so much.
It's whats wrong with the fucking auto community these days.
Fuck

SevenWays

11-14-2013, 09:38 AM

I think they were bashing the 240, im assuming this guy is used to higher performance vehicles so he just saw an old nissan and was just like aw this is a piece of shit. But thats just my opinion, I've only seen like 7-8 vids with him.

DJZ

11-14-2013, 09:39 AM

When does the next video come out? or is it already out somewhere

dorkidori_s13

11-14-2013, 10:00 AM

When does the next video come out? or is it already out somewhere

im going to have to 2nd this notion!

DJ-of-E

11-14-2013, 10:42 AM

Considering the # of views on youtube, it probably got dropped.

Corbic

11-14-2013, 01:52 PM

Considering the # of views on youtube, it probably got dropped.

Should have had some trashy dyke straddling the hood naked.

genericforumname

11-14-2013, 02:35 PM

Should have had some trashy dyke straddling the hood naked.

boy I sure hope not, these cars tend to have enough rust problems as it is.

Rafi Casas

11-18-2013, 10:26 AM

1993 Nissan 240SX: Dynoing the Craigslist Blue Light Special, Part 2 - Ignition Ep. 94 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGF3KlAGtV0)

They posted a new video, 4000 dollars in brakes and cheap isis 5 lug conversion

ixfxi

11-18-2013, 02:39 PM

This video segment is turning out to be an advertisement based on what companies have given them free shit.

Whats kinda surprising to me was that they installed shit-quality hubs (as opposed to just buying OEM 5-lug) yet, they installed Brembo Gran-Turismo braking system which costs more than the car.

I didnt appreciate him knocking on the Tokico blue shocks when they are proven to be good shocks (at least I think so). He says that the shocks (struts, whatever) lowered the car, when obviously its the springs that do that.

I really think Carlos is a fruit

zooopreme

11-18-2013, 02:52 PM

Just got done watching the video, I'm not surprised about the condescending tone used. It's definitely going to rub people the wrong way.

I thought wrong when I thought they would take this car and show that you don't have to have a ton of money/sponsors to upgrade parts on the car. For example Z32 brake install plus OEM hubs from a S14.

On the other side, if any newbie to the S-Chassis is thinking about getting one and has taken useful info from JUST this video and the previous one, they would upgrade those awful brakes and probably lower the car on coilovers. Instead of your typical S-Chassis owner that decides that having ~200-300hp is too weak and won't break traction for drifting so aero, poor suspension geometry, an American V8, and wheels that don't fit are the solution.

WristWork

11-18-2013, 03:05 PM

lol'd at $3,595 Brembos on an s13

ISIS Hubs are guaranteed to fail past 250 lb/tq

Those 245s are going to rip apart those unrolled fenders

Prok0

11-18-2013, 03:13 PM

ISIS Hubs are guaranteed to fail past 250 lb/tq

Where did you get that information? Patrick Goodin's Formula D car this past season with a 408 stroker LSx motor made 550 torque at the rear wheels and has yet to damage one of those hubs.

Providing a torque rating as a failure point for hubs is a bit unrealistic, perhaps a load/weight limit as that would have more of an effect on the bearing, but assuming torque would cause a hub to fail is a bit ill-founded.

Chaluska

11-18-2013, 03:54 PM

Where did you get that information? Patrick Goodin's Formula D car this past season with a 408 stroker LSx motor made 550 torque at the rear wheels and has yet to damage one of those hubs.

Providing a torque rating as a failure point for hubs is a bit unrealistic, perhaps a load/weight limit as that would have more of an effect on the bearing, but assuming torque would cause a hub to fail is a bit ill-founded.

ixfxi only appreciates the most expensive car parts in the world. have you seen his website?? (not knocking his products, his work in lighting is more an art than a modification)

Fucking Hawt
http://www.clearcorners.com/products/nissan/z34/h_lamp1/led_park.jpg

I'm pretty sure if the hubs are installed properly, with the right torque specs, i don't see how any brand would be any better or worse than any other hub... obviously if they are over-torqued, or under-torqued, it wont work as designed. a bearing is a bearing... i and two of my s13 friends are all running the Cotano $210.00 5 lug conversion.. all three of us havent had a single issue or complaint. mine have about 1000 miles on them with torquey VH45 abuse, a friend has 10,000 miles on his and he is KA-T with about 400 whp.. the other is just a stock s13.

cant say the entire company has great quality, but of the three people i know personally with them, it has worked out great.

cdvr-s13

11-18-2013, 05:20 PM

i and two of my s13 friends are all running the Cotano $210.00 5 lug conversion..

30 years old and you still suffer from cheap fuck syndrome? oh lawd

ixfxi

11-18-2013, 05:31 PM

I thought wrong when I thought they would take this car and show that you don't have to have a ton of money/sponsors to upgrade parts on the car. For example Z32 brake install plus OEM hubs from a S14.

Yes, it appears to be taking an almost identical approach to the horsepower TV build, but a bit more cookie-cutter in approach. My hunch is that Miss Lago is enjoying the free/sponsored parts... and why not, right? A lot of people whore themselves for free or discounted parts.

ixfxi only appreciates the most expensive car parts in the world. I'm pretty sure if the hubs are installed properly, with the right torque specs, i don't see how any brand would be any better or worse than any other hub...

no, i appreciate shit that works. price does not apply. there are plenty of inexpensive parts i like, which is why i buy OEM parts so much. rarely do you hear me complain about the cost of OEM parts.. with exception to:
- Mercedes: where most every fucking part is over-priced to perfection
- Acura: where every part is sold a'la carte, so they nickel and dime you on a headlight, a ballast, a bulb, a seal, a cap, a screw, etc... you cannot buy the entire part.
- Mazda: where somehow Mazda feels its okay to raise the price from 20 dollars to 45 dollars for a Miata valve cover gasket. However, the Kia uses the same engine and sells their valve cover gasket which is identical for 12.

in this case, the cost of OEM hubs is realistic and affordable. I see NO good reason to buy some piece of junk replica.

ghoti

11-18-2013, 05:55 PM

in this case, the cost of OEM hubs is realistic and affordable. I see NO good reason to buy some piece of junk replica.

I have to agree with this, but like mentioned earlier it's just because they got them for free.

Also tokico blues thumbs down? Tokico Blues/KYB AGXs w/ Tein springs ride really smooth.

Stock 6bolt axles stronger?:facepalm: Pretty sure he was confusing them with Q45 ones or maybe even 5bolt axles.

SimpleS14

11-18-2013, 06:20 PM

The 2nd vid definitely looked more like an advertisement. I wouldn't have any issues with that if the selection of parts made sense. The BBK is definitely a bit much for this car IMO.

SaNTi

11-18-2013, 06:22 PM

That whole build is a joke to them.

HyperTek

11-18-2013, 07:08 PM

the 5 lug hubs dont really stand out to me, the brembos, gram lights and the tires do..

Now had godspeed or megan threw parts at them, im sure everyone would be pissed lol. (Its only a matter of time til someone from there sees the videos and decides to give MT a call). Luckily it was Enjuku . Sure Isis not being a big name , if something goes wrong with them, good chances that the wheel bearings could be swapped for something better.

The other parts may be overkill, but hey they are legit parts.

Im sure Motortrend's target audience is people with money (typically to buy new cars), but those who like to see nice things. This ain't no Grassroots Motorsports.

S14DB

11-18-2013, 07:27 PM

Engine doesn't make enough power because of the exhaust he doesn't like. It's also why it's running on 3 cylinders. Time to get a endorsed crate motor and exhaust.

The Tokyo are so bad they are changing physics and making the car lower. No problem another sponsor will come forward with their coilover kit.

ixfxi

06-02-2014, 03:50 PM

47w6fxZsjyU

rear brakes locking up before the fronts? uhm, something tells me they didnt install a Z32 master cylinder. AND, if they did - the proportioning is still off between front and rear.

One thing that bugs me...
Carlos keeps saying "we replaced this" and "we did that" .. every time i look at him he has no dirt on his hands or shirt.

Come on Carlos, quit being a pussy and turn a wrench.

LEG1T

06-02-2014, 04:31 PM

Hahah^^ Good watch, but like others have said. ...

I would have much rather seen them go with a JDM SR20 or something of the sort, but no they went straight to baller and all american... Granted not everyone has that kind of money that's buying a 20 year old car. Something more relateable to the core demographic would have been nice... Oh well, it's still cool that there working with a 240 regardless...

Dolph_KYAS13

06-02-2014, 05:45 PM

Its still 3982472390409237432 times better than the "Horsepower TV S14"

ixfxi

06-02-2014, 11:21 PM

install a non compliant motor on the motor trend channel? i think not.

dude, its a street car registered in CA. did u miss that part?

LEG1T

06-03-2014, 06:43 AM

install a non compliant motor on the motor trend channel? i think not.

dude, its a street car registered in CA. did u miss that part?

Sure did, haha thanks... That makes all the difference I definitely overlooked that part.

conrad_s13.5

06-03-2014, 10:00 AM

"all the suspension colors match,.. which is very important"

cant tell if serious

slider2828

06-03-2014, 10:40 AM

He definitely wasn't serious hahaha.....

turbo2nr

06-03-2014, 10:45 AM

Overall good job so far, im glad they arn't thinking this so serious but still highlighting how awesome the schassis is.

Future240

06-03-2014, 12:08 PM

"all the suspension colors match,.. which is very important"

cant tell if serious

He wasn't.

Speaking of suspension sooooo Isis.....?

I'm not going to talk mess because I have no personal expereince with them. I was under the impression they were in the category of godspeed and megan and were not on part with the likes of SPL. Am I wrong?

Just seems odd, lie $3000 brakes, expensive engine, cheap arms. Hmm does not add up. Unless of course parts were given at deep discounts or free for what is basically a long commmercial.

Chaluska

06-03-2014, 10:11 PM

...what is basically a long commmercial.

he name dropped enjuku like 4 times. i want to go to enjuku right now and shop.

blessedhellrider

06-03-2014, 10:16 PM

yeah ,most automotive ,TV shows are just infomercials .

deolio

06-03-2014, 11:04 PM

yeah ,most automotive ,TV shows are just infomercials .

it's difficult to keep sponsors happy and not make it sound like one

Rusker

06-03-2014, 11:19 PM

They seem to have more respect for the s chassis this episode. I really like the direction they're going with the build.

simmode1

06-04-2014, 09:50 AM

Overall good job so far, im glad they arn't thinking this so serious but still highlighting how awesome the schassis is.

They seem to have more respect for the s chassis this episode. I really like the direction they're going with the build.Yeah, they managed to work in quite a few backhanded compliments this time. This video did a good job of reminding me why/how I could love such an old POS car. They're pretty unabashed about how crappy the car is, but also how awesome it can become with proper mods. I love how any of us could easily duplicate their imprssive results so far at maybe a quarter of their cost (minus the crazy discounts they must be getting). Get rid of that open diff, add a healthy dose of bracing & you got a real contender even with just a healthy N/A KA. An SR with T28 at 14psi would be the perfect balance, IMO. Too bad they will never do that. I'd LOVE to see some instrumented testing of that. But the LS3 is just overkill to me.

jamg

06-04-2014, 11:22 AM

i wish i had a 20k budget.. :(

Chaluska

06-04-2014, 11:27 AM

i wish i had a 20k budget.. :(

Yeeap

LS3 E-rod - $7000
T56 built tranny - $3000
all the LS swap shit - $3-5k
Brembo brakes - $3500
KW coilovers - $1300ish
gramlight wheels
widebody
isis full catalog of suspension parts (ironically not coilovers)

you should wish you had like a 30k budget

Or just buy a 6 speed C5 vette for 20k, and add the best brake kit you can find. and have a better car than that s13.

I'm sure that they got a TON of that stuff for free, or promo..

simmode1

06-04-2014, 03:52 PM

^^^See, that's what I'm talking about! I just don't see the point of sinking $15k or more into a S-Chassis. At that point, there are just better & newer cars you could buy. For all the 240sx's selling points, it's biggest pro to me has always been it's bang for your buck potential. Just $10k into a 240 can go so damn far. It doesn't take $30k to enjoy this damn car.

jamg

06-04-2014, 03:58 PM

if they were trying to prove a point that you can have a ton of fun in a cheap car like the s13.... they are doing it all wrong with going the LS route.

it would have been better if the whole build was geared towards showing how you can mod the car and make decent power without blowing a ton of money.

ixfxi

06-04-2014, 04:45 PM

LS3 E-rod - $7000
T56 built tranny - $3000
all the LS swap shit - $3-5k
Brembo brakes - $3500
KW coilovers - $1300ish
gramlight wheels
widebody
isis full catalog of suspension parts (ironically not coilovers)
you should wish you had like a 30k budget
I'm sure that they got a TON of that stuff for free, or promo..

Not free, but I'm sure they got it at jobber pricing.

I'm still bothered by the rear brakes locking up before the front. I hope they address the cause of this issue. Plus, it doesnt make Brembo look good. Companies arent supposed to just sell parts, they're supposed to sell parts that are engineered to work properly. Rear brakes locking up before the front = not working properly (and dangerous).

^^^See, that's what I'm talking about! I just don't see the point of sinking $15k or more into a S-Chassis.

Well, that all depends. You dont have to sink down this kind of money all at once. As you know, most car owners make upgrades incrementally. The luxury Mr Carlos has is trying to do all of this junk at once and with Motor Trend "pull" with the vendors. Its no different than Tomei building the KA24DE turbo, except Tomei actually knows what they are doing.

if they were trying to prove a point that you can have a ton of fun in a cheap car like the s13.... they are doing it all wrong with going the LS route.

it would have been better if the whole build was geared towards showing how you can mod the car and make decent power without blowing a ton of money.

The only reason I think they chose the LS is simple: smog compliance.

I still think the SR20 is the way to go. But apparently people are afraid of ref tickets out here and so they've all decided to ban together and grow mullets.

When you think about the amount of time, sweat, heartache and money that goes into a build: I'de rather buy a Vette or Camaro than deal with all this swap nonsense. As much as I like my 240........... in the end, its just an old car.

simmode1

06-04-2014, 05:10 PM

I still think the SR20 is the way to go. But apparently people are afraid of ref tickets out here and so they've all decided to ban together and grow mullets.When you think about the amount of time, sweat, heartache and money that goes into a build: I'de rather buy a Vette or Camaro than deal with all this swap nonsense. As much as I like my 240........... in the end, its just an old car.100% agreed. If I can't be happy with my $1500 240 after $10 grand of upgrades, I'm just gonna go get something else. $30k is just outrageous to me for a 240 that will likely not be campainged in any legit racing series. Keep it simple and keep it moving.

ixfxi

06-04-2014, 05:54 PM

100% agreed. If I can't be happy with my $1500 240 after $10 grand of upgrades, I'm just gonna go get something else. $30k is just outrageous to me for a 240 that will likely not be campainged in any legit racing series. Keep it simple and keep it moving.

Yeah but thats not to say that there arent people that dump coin into their car, either. I am one of those morons who, since the late 90s, has put tens of thousands of dollars into my car. Its a mixture of modifications AND maintenance, and thats where it gets tricky because I feel that the majority of people overlook maintenance in favor of modifications - and thats total rubbish.

What Motor Trend is doing, is what lots of people have done over the years: take a car that they think has potential, and upgrade it in ways that they think is better. The gripe I have is, that they overlook the details as to what makes this car good in the first place.

The way I see it:
- You dont need coilovers for a car to handle
- You dont need Brembo Gran Turismo brakes for it to stop well
- You dont need widebody in order to fit good size rubber
- You dont need a V8 for this car to be fast
- You dont need Recaro seats in order to sit secured

The way MT sees it, the parts will be heavily discounted so:
- Coilovers give them full adjustability
- Brembo brakes are the best in the industry
- widebody allows us to fit wide wheels/tires without being too cautious
- a LS motor promotes GM and is smog compliant
- Recaro seats are AWESOME, so why not

This video series would go in the wrong direction if god forbid, they promoted a non-compliant motor like the SR20DET. Adding a turbo to an old motor could be a problem in terms of reliability, let alone smog compliance.

Imagine if they sent back the Tokicos for warranty replacement (because they DO come with lifetime warranty) and assembled the car with Z32 F/R brakes + BMC, installed some R32 GTR 16x8 wheels with 245/45/16 R888 tires, R32/R33 GTR seats, rolled the fenders and spent some time replacing necessities like bushings, engine mounts, etc

Well. That would take work. BUT, that wouldnt promote any of their sponsors who pay their bills.

Oh yeah, and install a Tomei crate KA24DE w/ turbo kit. Sounds like fun. Anyone want to do the math on that?

BoostSlideWayz

06-04-2014, 06:11 PM

Either way, i thought they were doing goo with the car. But im just not on the LS band wagon. I know the logical aspect of an LS swap, like easy power and toque output, reliable, light weight for the power to weight ratio. But im more of a purist, id rather see a more japanese influence on this car rather dropping a large liter engine to make power.

I'm more interested in factory engines being pushed and built to make impressive numbers.

LS engines in s chassis are becoming so common now days that im actually not even interested in most engine bays of these cars anymore. Just another LS moving on.

KiLLeR2001

06-04-2014, 06:37 PM

I'm still bothered by the rear brakes locking up before the front. I hope they address the cause of this issue. Plus, it doesnt make Brembo look good. Companies arent supposed to just sell parts, they're supposed to sell parts that are engineered to work properly. Rear brakes locking up before the front = not working properly (and dangerous).

I'm too lazy to go rewatch the video but if I remember correctly, they only did Brembo brakes up front and kept the stock Z32 setup in the rear, with the stock Z32 BMC.

ixfxi

06-04-2014, 08:00 PM

and after skimming the video again, they mention the install of project mu rear pads

quite possible that their rear pad is too aggressive, thats another possibility

but one commenter did read my mind:
"I'm very disappointed to not see a master cylinder upgrade not done on this vehicle. You spend all the money on the great parts claiming to do it all correctly then stick with the OEM hydraulics. Think about that. You're asking the stock hyrdos designed to work with single sliding caliper piston garbage to work with that massively upgraded equipment. You only replaced the shiny pretty bits."

^^ agreed. another reason why editors should stick to reviewing cars: THEYRE NOT ENGINEERS.

they should have hired me as the "240sx expert" - and i'm a fucking moron

edit: I just skimmed vid 2 to see that they are running a 17x9 w/ 245/40 tire. with overfenders, they definitely could have gone wider.

silviasandbeer

06-04-2014, 08:11 PM

lets hope it doesnt take 6 months to upload another update
i know it takes time to swap in a ls3 but sheesh! haha

Rusker

06-06-2014, 04:01 PM

Or just buy a 6 speed C5 vette for 20k, and add the best brake kit you can find. and have a better car than that s13.

That sounds so boring though.

Well, that all depends. You dont have to sink down this kind of money all at once. As you know, most car owners make upgrades incrementally. The luxury Mr Carlos has is trying to do all of this junk at once and with Motor Trend "pull" with the vendors. Its no different than Tomei building the KA24DE turbo, except Tomei actually knows what they are doing.

The only reason I think they chose the LS is simple: smog compliance.

Exactly!

Rusker

06-06-2014, 04:03 PM

lets hope it doesnt take 6 months to upload another update
i know it takes time to swap in a ls3 but sheesh! haha

I was wondering if they'd ever make an episode 3. Now that we've seen the kind of money they're spending on this project I would assume we'll see an episode 4 fairly quickly. This episode seems to have generated a lot more interest in the series.

simmode1

06-06-2014, 05:51 PM

That sounds so boring though.Wait... Did you just call a C5 Z06 boring in comparison to this $20k budget 240?!? You crazy. You could buy one for around $12k. Imagine $8k poured into that. Boring? More like massive amounts of overkill. Geezus Christ. It would murder the S13 for the same price as this project.

HyperTek

06-08-2014, 10:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47w6fxZsjyU

Guess it was expected they would go with an LS

CrimsonRockett

06-09-2014, 08:28 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47w6fxZsjyU

Guess it was expected they would go with an LS

Lol.

Dude, the entire page has been about this video that was posted in Page 2.

As far as the money thing goes, everyone has their own personal preferences. Of course you could easily put less money into something that'll perform better overall, but that doesn't mean that person will actually enjoy the car itself.

I've racked up over $20k in parts alone for my S13. Going on 8 years now with this car. Like most car owners (or collectors), there's sentimental value behind it. That's the main reason why I have so much "invested" in it. Over the years we're told we could have easily bought XYZ car with the amount of money we've dumped into our S-chassis, but that's not the car that you love. Do what makes you happy.

Future240

06-09-2014, 11:39 AM

^^Plus it is one thing to buy a car that is out of the box fast than to spend years modding and tinkering with someting with your own hands. It will be something unique, something that not everyone else has.

The Motor trend video embodies this [albeit a a much higer price than most would pay]. Sure it is not practical, sure you can get better out of the box cars for cheaper, but at the end of the day like Johnny said. it is whatever makes you happy.

simmode1

06-09-2014, 02:49 PM

Future240

06-09-2014, 05:13 PM

^^^I certainly don't intend to disparage anyone who spends a ton of money on their 240. My views are simply towards my own projects. I prefer a mild/conservative approach to modification rather than an extreme one. OEM+ styling, ~1:10 power to weight ratio & modest suspension/chassis mods. I prefer to enhance my cars rather than completely transform them. If your vision for the car is so far from the engineer's orginal intent, I just don't see the point of picking that car as your starting point. It's just been my experience that, the more stuff you mod, the more stuff breaks & the less driveable the car becomes.

I completely agree. I want my mods to enhance the car to become a better version of itself without losing itself. I would not want most of the "becuz race car" mods.

For me personally that means no:

Cages
Hard core race seats (don't recline)
Sunroof deletes
2 way diffs
Non-OEM LCA's
Modded knuckles
Tubs
More than 450hp(s-chassis only)

Sure loads of builds have them and that is great for them. I just don't care for it.

HyperTek

06-09-2014, 05:37 PM

Lol.

Dude, the entire page has been about this video that was posted in Page 2.

haha my mistake :picardfp:
I just seen the Roadkill guys share it on their facebook and wasn't aware it was already posted on zilvia, figured it was new lol

S14DB

12-01-2014, 10:24 AM

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ixfxi

12-01-2014, 03:04 PM

These LS motor swaps are funny. Its like the #1 meal at <insert fast food chain>.

Take any car, remove the stock motor and install LS. Problem solved.

HyperTek

12-01-2014, 05:10 PM

as much as im not into american v8s into import swaps, at least the car is decently clean. I mean they aren't planing to drift missile it out lol

Future240

12-02-2014, 07:31 AM

I like the way they build the chassis and brakes before they added power to it. I also understand the reason for the LS, legality, emissions, power, etc etc etc.

That being said, in my opinion, this is the most boring swap they could do.

S14DB

12-02-2014, 08:15 AM

How hard would it have been to get a GTO shifter instead of hacking up the dash?

ixfxi

12-02-2014, 10:51 AM

they could have also purchased a pontiac GTO. saved themselves all the labor and instead, spent that time and money on lightening a GTO. and you'd still have full climate control

Frank_Jaeger

12-02-2014, 02:40 PM

they could have also purchased a pontiac GTO. saved themselves all the labor and instead, spent that time and money on lightening a GTO. and you'd still have full climate control
You're very special, I think I understand why they keep you around here.

DreamN

12-03-2014, 06:50 AM

^ lol that made me chuckle.

I enjoyed the videos, but was really hoping for a budget build, somewhat of a back to basics type of build rather than what it turned out to be. Though I agree with it at least being a decent looking build and not a "missile" shitbox.

JadedNazgul

12-08-2014, 08:49 AM

Here is part 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL4kIk8mXSk

It's cool to see how it beat a lot of more expensive cars..

Aeroscraper326

12-08-2014, 10:16 AM

LS all the things....

turbo2nr

12-08-2014, 10:25 AM

so what motor trend is saying is that s13 is equal to la ferrari. seems legit...

onehundredoctane

12-08-2014, 11:30 AM

so what motor trend is saying is that s13 is equal to la ferrari. seems legit...

With that said. . . all LS swapped 240sx are now worth the purchase price of a La Ferrari.

HyperTek

12-08-2014, 01:04 PM

onehundredoctane

12-08-2014, 01:28 PM

S14DB

12-08-2014, 02:55 PM

ixfxi

12-08-2014, 03:37 PM

Isnt it a bit odd tho to say its an easy swap that uses all oem parts.. yet they had to get alot of aftermarket parts to swap the freaking thing in?? I mean how much aftermarket shit would you have needed for an sr swap? nothing! Of course theres the non-smog compliant issue tho. but you have to do alot more to swap an LS in.

Yes, I totally agree.

The thing about Carlos' build is that its far from being OEM. The majority of parts are either GM or aftermarket, which makes it a hodge-podge of parts. And I am not talking shit either, its cool to see that he is happy with his creation - thats all we can ask for as people who modify cars.

Did anyone see what BMC he was running? I'm still wondering how they are going to get the BIAS right.

I'm sure Carlos has an account on here. Carlos, quit being a pansy. Stop lurking and reveal yourself to the Zilvia community. Dont worry, we'll welcome you with open arms. As long as you paint those overfenders.

Nissan_Alex

12-08-2014, 07:44 PM

Hey Alex here (From L-Spec)

I can try to answer any questions about the build.

As for the BMC they are running a 300zx so it should handle the larger brakes. The problem is fine tuning the set up.

Mike Kojima will be setting up the car and dialing it in at a later date, once thats done they should see better times all around.

and to the ladies Please control yourself, try to avoid the hot male cleavage my eyes are up here! (joking)

Corbic

12-08-2014, 07:51 PM

10psitx

12-08-2014, 10:21 PM

What SR swap uses all "OEM" parts?!

1 example of an all "OEM" parts SR swap complete with auto tranny in a USDM 1989 s13 hatch...

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad311/TURBOFREEK1/IMG_20130929_010915_472.jpg

ixfxi

12-08-2014, 10:29 PM

What SR swap uses all "OEM" parts?!

Mine has a lot of OEM parts. OEM from various other NISSANs, that is.

ixfxi

12-08-2014, 10:35 PM

Hey Alex here (From L-Spec)

No one asked for the hired help, we want the bearded lady. Carlos, show yourself!

And paint those fenders!!! Seriously, you're making us look bad as if ALL 240SX owners own cars that look like fucking garbage cans.

simmode1

12-09-2014, 07:18 AM

As much as I personally dislike LSx swapped Japanese cars, I must say this: It really is cool to see a glimpse of what our cars are really capable of with well thought out mods. But I imagine an SR powered car could achieve similar results with less than half this budget.

Seeing the list of cars it was faster than was a nice touch too. But honestly, it was still a little inspiring even before the engine swap.

But the absolute coolest part was getting to see Randy Pobst do a hot lap in a 21 year old S13 around Willow Springs. That alone was worth the price of admission. He's the closest thing we've got to an American Keiichi Tsuchiya.

ixfxi

12-09-2014, 08:28 AM

But the absolute coolest part was getting to see Randy Pobst do a hot lap in a 21 year old S13 around Willow Springs. That alone was worth the price of admission. He's the closest thing we've got to an American Keiichi Tsuchiya.

Yes, that was most definitely the best part of the entire build/segment, was the comparison with other cars and having Randy drive the fucker.

Randy is far from Tsuchiya though. We all know Tsuchiya would have had a young female dressed in a bikini in 50-degree weather and force the camera to show us borderline rapist upskirt footage. JDM pervert. :-)

Best Motoring should invite Randy out to a Super Battle, it would be funny to see him get his ass handed to him by Gan San. It really is a shame that there arent more car video series like Best Motoring. Simply, the best.

S14DB

12-09-2014, 09:38 AM

Hey Alex here (From L-Spec)

I can try to answer any questions about the build.
Why no GTO shifter?

onehundredoctane

12-09-2014, 09:48 AM

Why no GTO shifter?

I was kinda wondering the same thing...

But my T56 shifter sits back enough I didn't have to cut the tunnel, which is more gooder :2f2f:

simmode1

12-09-2014, 10:29 AM

Yes, that was most definitely the best part of the entire build/segment, was the comparison with other cars and having Randy drive the fucker.

Randy is far from Tsuchiya though. We all know Tsuchiya would have had a young female dressed in a bikini in 50-degree weather and force the camera to show us borderline rapist upskirt footage. JDM pervert. :-)

Best Motoring should invite Randy out to a Super Battle, it would be funny to see him get his ass handed to him by Gan San. It really is a shame that there arent more car video series like Best Motoring. Simply, the best.
Yeah, Randy's demeanor is pretty much all business. But I think it would be cool to see him in his own show where we could see more personality. I love when he & Lago discuss the same car because his opinion is way more credible.

But it would be awesome to see if Randy was the same caliber of racer as the BMI crew. One thing in Randy's favor though: he's still actively racing so that might be an edge over GanSan & Tsuchiya.

Check this out:
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow_springs.html

Theres only 1 car on this list faster than the 240SS & it's record will likely fall once the car is completely dialed in.

Side note: built an s13 in Turismo with matching specs & killed Randy's time. :keke:

SimpleS14

12-09-2014, 11:40 AM

The video was interesting, but it kind of downplayed the swap as being very easy for a novice or beginner. Sure everyone can do it, but it's not that simple. I wonder what's next. Hopefully they tweak the suspension/brakes and finish up the exterior without any gaudy bits.

Oh yeah, and install a Tomei crate KA24DE w/ turbo kit.

Is the Tomei stuff officially available? The last thing I remember was the S14 featuring the prototype build.

NNOCENT

12-09-2014, 12:26 PM

I'd be very interested to see a detailed build sheet / cost breakdown.

Looking at the fantastic parts included in this build (while i'm sure they are all sponsored) the build sheet for your average-joe is significant investment by this point.

Update 1

Price Item Description
$250 Front 5-Lug ISIS 5-Lug from Enjuku - Front
$250 Rear 5-Lug ISIS 5-Lug from Enjuku - Rear
$3959 Brembo Package Brembo Gran Turismo braking system
$1200 17” Wheels Rays Gram Lights 57DR ($400 ea.)
$519 17” Tires BFGoodrich G-Force Rival

Update Sub-Total: $6,178

Update 2

Price Item Description
$2499 Coilovers KW Clubsports
$379 Adj. Suspension ISIS Perf. Susp. Arm Package
$150 Z32 Brakes Used Z32 Rear Brake Calipers
$150 Z32 Rotors Brembo Z32 Rear Rotors
$50 Proj. Mu. Pads Rear Z32 Project Mu NS400 Brake Pads
$1798 Recaro Seats Pair Recaro Pole Position Fixed Seats
$250 Recaro Rails Pair Pair - Recaro Seat Rails
$350 Front Fenders Origin Front Fenders
$325 Rear Fenders Origin Rear Fenders

Update Sub-Total: $5,961

Update Final

Price Item Description
$7000 LS3 LS3 E-Rod (emissions compliant - smog legal)
$3000 T56 Super Mag T56 Built Manual Transmission
$750 Wiring Alex L-Spec Wiring Harness
$320 Radiator Mishimoto Radiator
$265 E-Fans 2 Electronic Fans wired to GM ECU
$50 Upper Rad Hose W/ Steam Port
$50 Catch Can Unknown
$600 Exhaust Custom
$1525 Gauge Cluster Racepak Digital Dash GPS Antenna
$500 Intake Fueld Racing LS Intake
$250 Fuel Pump? Walbro?
$2895 Swap Kit Fueled Racing Kit

Update Sub-Total: $17,205

GRAND TOTAL: $29,344

simmode1

12-09-2014, 03:38 PM

^^^Ouch. $30k in & in still looks like ass. And that doesn't even factor in labor. Just for comparison, the Ecoboost Mustang costs $4k less and is only 2 seconds slower in stock form. Kinda defeats the purpose of starting with a 240 in the first place, IMO.

zfortune

12-09-2014, 06:33 PM

Laughing so hard at all these raging comments. I love what they did to the 240sx but of course I would actually like the body work to be done properly... But anyways it's their car and they can build it however they want it. They're clearly not building your guy's car like holy shit.

apexis13sx

12-11-2014, 08:07 PM

Watched the whole build, pretty cool for them to do a 240sx. Id rather put a ls with all those goodies they added and have the power and handling for 30k, then spend 30k plus on these new electronic nightmares they make now days. But dont get my wrong if i could afford a R35 i would buy one lol.

silviasandbeer

12-11-2014, 09:42 PM

GRAND TOTAL: $29,344[/I][/B][/U]

keep in mind, I'm sure ejuku and other companies sponsored the build. so trust me, they didn't spenk 30k on an s13
the average person slapping an LS in a s13/14 won't use a 4k$ brembo packaged lol

on a side note, i really really loved seeing this thing go thru the turns on the canyon... it seriously looked amazing ! I'm liking this :2f2f:

onehundredoctane

12-12-2014, 08:32 AM

$4k brake kit. . .

But used Enjuku adjustable arms?!

Guess SPL or GK Tech didn't wanna get on board with that build...

simmode1

12-12-2014, 08:25 PM

The thought just occurred to me: considering the overall budget of this car & the fact that they are bringing in Mike Kojima to tune the suspension/chassis, I would not be surprised if this project turns into Motor Trend's pro drift car.

Ugh.

ixfxi

12-13-2014, 10:26 AM

Mike Kojima looks like Mr Potato Head

simmode1

12-13-2014, 06:53 PM

Mike Kojima looks like Mr Potato Head
Fortunately, that doesn't stop him from being probably the most knowledgeable person in North America about S-chassis suspension & chassis setups.

Nissan should hire him.

silviasandbeer

09-20-2015, 11:19 PM

so i guess carlos lago has moved on from motor trend
motortrend on youtube says...

"The 240SS is now under the questionable care of the Roadkill crew"

another one bites the dust?

simmode1

09-21-2015, 07:13 AM

TurboTiger

09-21-2015, 09:30 AM

^^^Oh god. Those guys are worse than Lago ever was. RIP to project 240SS.

I've switched over to following the Speed Academy channel. Peter Trarch(?) from Modified runs it and the builds are really faithful to how most enthusiasts would approach a well thought out & quality build. They definitely have the best SR S14 build I've seen on YouTube. Check them out.

Ugh. As much as I like the RoadKill guys, I really hope they don't end up with the 240SS. I can't even imagine what they'd end up doing to it. Why not give it to someone in MT would can continue the build and get it on the track to compete with newer cars.

Speed Academy is amazing. One of the better channels for builds.

ixfxi

09-21-2015, 04:15 PM

motor trend is not a channel that is geared for builds, its jerking off material for new cars. all their reviews feel like paid advertisements.

here is what i enjoy about motor trend:
- david freiburger & mike finnegan, roadkill make the channel worth watching. hot rod garage was also enjoyable but now got replaced with a arm-tattoo douche. he's not that bad, but... not the dynamic duo of freiburger & finnegan
- randy pobst, his reviews and opinions are very down to earth. reminds me of a us-version of tsuchiya, minus the pervertedness. great driver.

Jay Leno's channel is also good, but the thing that bugs me about jay is he is an ass kisser. he asks people questions and then ignores them with "right right right" when he stops listening. he recently promoted jiffy lube as a sponsor, for fundage reasons obviously, and i think thats very low class. i also dislike any segment with tight-pants wearing justin bell, fuck that guy is annoying.

matt farah's channel is also great. very down to earth and grassroots (for now). i mean, he even drove the VW Kombi bus from HastaAlaska

good to see tarach still at it with speed academy, i subbed.