SR20 Z33 6 speed swap

[battosaii930]

well ive been a long time Lurker and ive decided to do this swap and document the process i hope it comes out well just keep in mind this will take about a month because im waiting for parts and im also doing some things to the engine.

this will be going in my Kouki s14

here is a list of my parts most of which will be here on monday or tuesday

-2005 CD009 6-speed with 20kmiles
-OEM 350z Slave cylinder
-Steel braided clutch line
-ACT Extreme 6 puck clutch kit for SR20
-Spec SR20 lightweight flywheel
-Shaft Masters Aluminum S14 with z33 tranny drive shaft
-Collins Shifter service
-Collins adapter plate for SR20
-Collins Crossmember
-Dakota Digital converter box

heres some pics
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1257-1.jpg

took the bellhousing off to get it machined 3/8"
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1400.jpg

inspected the gears and they look excellent
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1405.jpg

picked up the bellhousing from the machine shop they did a great job!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-1.jpg

first parts to come in are here
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null.jpg

thats pretty much it for now i may put the bellhousing back on the tranny tomorrow but other then that im waiting on parts

[240koukiSX]

Subbed. I've been thinking of doing this for a while now

[battosaii930]

ok small update i put the tranny back together now some pics

cleaned the back of the bellhousing for the RTV to have a smooth surface to adhere to
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1426.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1427.jpg

got a piece of 2x4 so i could stand the tranny up for easy bellhousing alignment
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1432.jpg

got it all lined up and bolted on now installing the snap ring on the main bearing
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1433.jpg

i temporarily put the cover back on but i need to head to nissan on monday and get a new front cover seal, mine looks ok but Nissan recommends not to reuse them and i will not risk it for a $4 seal.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1434.jpg

now this i did not realize there was a little ball under this spring and it had fallen out do not lose this!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1435.jpg

here she is all put back together
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1436.jpg

thats it for today i have parts coming in on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday so ill update when they come in

[s13mikesr20]

have this trans in one of my s13s behind a blacktop


3rd gear entries r so much easier I love it and I cruse the highway at 80 with 2500 rpms ;)

[powahh]

CD009 is a monster! love it. Mating one to VH45 atm.

[battosaii930]

yea i cant wait to try it out i dont drift to often my car is set up for Auto-x but the stock 5 speed gear ratios are horrible for a tight auto-x course

[fatduece]

well ive been a long time Lurker and ive decided to do this swap and document the process i hope it comes out well just keep in mind this will take about a month because im waiting for parts and im also doing some things to the engine.

this will be going in my Kouki s14

here is a list of my parts most of which will be here on monday or tuesday

-2005 CD009 6-speed with 20kmiles
-OEM 350z Slave cylinder
-Steel braided clutch line
-Shaft Masters Aluminum S14 with z33 tranny drive shaft
-Collins Shifter service
-Collins adapter plate for SR20
-Collins Crossmember
-Dakota Digital converter box




Do you mind telling how much all of parts cost you?

Also how much is everybody paying for the tranny? Im looking into this but I dont know how much they are worth, or where to even look for them. I was thinking the dealer but they'll probably try to sell it for 4k?

[powahh]

Do you mind telling how much all of parts cost you?

Also how much is everybody paying for the tranny? Im looking into this but I dont know how much they are worth, or where to even look for them. I was thinking the dealer but they'll probably try to sell it for 4k?

I found mine for 400 on craigslist, the guy was desperate I didnt even low ball him.
Freshly rebuilt too, I checked it. brand new syncros on all gears.

Its oe of those things, you just gotta search for it, you'll find a great deal

[battosaii930]

-2005 CD009 6-speed with 20kmiles - $400
-OEM 350z Slave cylinder - $47
-Steel braided clutch line - $40
-Shaft Masters Aluminum S14 with z33 tranny drive shaft - $387
-Collins Shifter service - $112
-Collins adapter plate for SR20 and crossmember for s14 - $545
-Dakota Digital converter box - $94.95

total $1625.95, those are shipped prices and thats not including my $505 clutch or other things that i may need to buy things always come up when you pull out an engine

[norcalta]

I busted this swap about 3 months ago. Third gear is great havent changed ratio yet however she is down as we speak due to clutch engagement issue. Was very different type of issue basically clutch was released instant disengagement of power to real wheels no matter what gear and hard pedal no noise! After disassembly I have found nothing wrong with any of the drivetrain components. transmission shifts fine into every gear and spinning the input shaft spins the tailshaft as well in every gear. Clutch looks fine only thing I can think of is that as I was unbolting the pressure plate if was stuck was able to be placed into engaged position as was unbolted unevenly when being removed from flywheel. Transmission was sent to shop Friday for syncros and bearings "cd008 trans bought off of craigslist didnt do my homework when I started this:( one thing im going to be looking into when I get back is the throwout bearing travel distance. When I started this I had read about a girl in New Zealand that was doing this to a s15 with the same adapter plate and she was having issues with the size of the throwout bearing being too short and not touching the pressure plate but the post was never finished. You may wanna look into this too. Im using the s14 throwout and fork btw the z33 stuff will not work found out from personal experience. Kudos for taking good picts and time to document this! Would have loved to see this round the first of the year lol.

[battosaii930]

well thanks for the heads up i hope i wont run into those problems id like to get tuned asap and drive train problems will set me back money and time

ill be using the SR throw out bearing carrier, Collins sells one but im pretty sure its the same are the SR one and it was ment for the 1uz people

[norcalta]

Ya I had to learn the hard way lol but I still dont think the sr throwout bearing is long enough when I get the tranny back im going to pay close attention to see I f the bearing is on the pressure plate and if not come up with some sort space to attach to bearing

[battosaii930]

Ya I had to learn the hard way lol but I still dont think the sr throwout bearing is long enough when I get the tranny back im going to pay close attention to see I f the bearing is on the pressure plate and if not come up with some sort space to attach to bearing

collins sells a throw out bearing carrier for the swap i didnt buy one cause i thought i could use the SR one but i may buy it just incase i dont want to drop my tranny again once its in.

small update that has nothing to do with the trans, my wireing specialties harness just came in and it looks amazing it will clean up my engine bay so much installing this harness plus my 20+ year old wires are not in the greatest condition.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1443.jpg

[battosaii930]

hey my Shaft Masters drive shaft came in today and man does it look good, they use Spicer joints.
here is a pic of my testing to see if the yolk fits properly and it does!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1450.jpg

also my Dakota Digital speed calibration unit, im going to use this box to get the ABS signal from my j30 diff to make my speedometer to work with the z33 tranny.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1451.jpg

i already had the Spec flywheel but i wasnt sure if i needed a new friction plate or not so i just ordered one it was $80 i would be kicking myself if i needed it and not ordered it but other then that im still waiting on more parts and i will try to pull my SR out of my s14 this weekend

[brndck]

Cool to see a full write up on this.
I've wanted to do it for a while but no one has answered all of my questions about the swap.

[battosaii930]

my ACT Extreme 6 puck clutch came in last night.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-2.jpg

[battosaii930]

my replacement spec Flywheel friction plate came in today. now im just missing a few parts but they happen to be the most important ones

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-3.jpg

[newbe240owner]

Does anybody know if the HR version will work also?

[joe3180]

Do you mind telling how much all of parts cost you?

Also how much is everybody paying for the tranny? Im looking into this but I dont know how much they are worth, or where to even look for them. I was thinking the dealer but they'll probably try to sell it for 4k?

Brand new is like 1600-1700 from what I can find with a quick search.

[battosaii930]

Does anybody know if the HR version will work also?

yes the Adaptor that Brett Collins sells will fork for the HR tranny

yea i havnt been able to pull my engine yet ive been working alot but my grandfather gets here to Miami on the 27th so ill probably be pulling it out sometime after that. I am also still waiting on parts to come in, my chase bays p/s kit is on back order too.

here is something i bought so when i go out partying on the boat
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-5.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-4.jpg

im also going to use it when i work on the 240 lol

[sil15yaz]

Wow where can i get these monster stuffs? Do they ship to brunei?

[rbs14kouki]

Anybody on here know if i can upgrade my 03 internals to cd009 spec ???

[sil15yaz]

Whats ur email bro need to ask u few questions :)

[s13mikesr20]

your gonna love you gear setup after this 3-4 gear is sooooooooo much fun

[battosaii930]

hey guys found this locally with the same color as my car! Kouki trunk+Wing
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-6.jpg

i have a long hard week of work next week but i will try to pull my engine next weekend even though im still missing some of the most important parts

[Mile High Silvia]

gonna be hella tight! i miss my z33 shifter :( this is on my list!

[Mile High Silvia]

yo, are you going from auto to z33?

[battosaii930]

nope im going 5speed SR to 6speed z33 my chassis came 5-speed from factory, i may keep the tranny because my brother wants to put an SR in his Vert and we can find a long block with everything but the tranny and harness for $1000, we plan on using a wireing specialties harness too anyway

pic from this morning
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null-7.jpg

[onehundredoctane]

Very cool to see a write up! I've seen that guys are using the Dakota Digital box but I haven't seen a write up on that particular aspect of the build. Hope to see more soon!

[Mile High Silvia]

Nice man! Doing something I wish I had the time/money for right meow :)

[ultimateirving]

Yes please document everything, and elaborate on any issues or stopping points you hit please. I think all of us are saving up for this swap and you can write the bible!

Thank you OP!!

[VizorS14]

any updates?:hyper:

[battosaii930]

im Still waiting on parts Chasebays their 3 week long wait on back ordered parts is turning into 7 weeks now :( and Brett from Collins Performance told me my stuff would be shipped out this week so i decided to pull my engine out.

i didnt really document this part very thoroughly because its been done a million times! anywho here are some pics.

getting all set up with my tent in the morning you need this down here the Florida Sun can be killer.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps797c6146.jpg

unplugged everything and pulled everything off she is ready to come out
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps64cff9ef.jpg

out and nasty dirty!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps5270b957.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps467390a5.jpg

i noticed that one side of my turbo had lost the nut lock and both nuts and studs on one side had worked them self loose! awesome more stuff to order
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpsb356e7d8.jpg

Spec Stage 2 Clutch DONE! this thing did not perform like advertised
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpse78eb287.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps8eb64033.jpg

i Also noticed my rear main is leaking so this would be a good time to replace it.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps480fb38f.jpg

here i am comparing the SR and Z33 Tranny curiously the SR tranny is a bit longer.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps877b11bd.jpg

thats it for now untill more parts come in im stuck i really didnt think things would take this long

[norcalta]

Okay guys sorry for the long wait but finally got the transmission back from shop Sunday and started on it sunday night trying figure out which throwout, sleeve, fork and pivot ball are the best setup. So I see that you can order 2 different pinballs for s chassis there is ond from 89 to mid 91 and then a later one I purchased the later one thinking that it may be a revision. From what I have found the s chassis pinball DOES NOT WORK with the z33 6 speed period! It is too short and with possibly destroy your clutch slave. The z cars use a longer pinball in their cars they used this from 90-03 from what ive seen then they switched to the cast iron fork from a stamped steel fork the cast iron is supposed to be way stronger setup especially with. Chomoly pinball. I have heard that u can swap this to a sr or ka tranny witb the proper z33 pinball but I doubt it due to looking at the size difference the z33 and z32 pinballs "to use a late z33 fork in a z32 u would have to use the z33 pinball which is the same size as the s chassis one but the ball is completely round instead of half round like the s chassis". So after in and out. Few times the winning combo is z33 cast iron fork, s chassis sleeve, s chassis throwout bearing, z33 retainer spring, z33 pinball. No problems. Also using act xtreme 6 puck unsprung. So im finally happy to have this done!!!
so all the other issues that are a problem with this swap
1. Hope you have topmount or have easy access to a exaust shop because stock sr20det dump pipe is not even close to fitting. I found a cheap dump pipe online from ssautopower that had divorced wastegate and looked the easiest to mod only had to dimple in on the wastegate portion and trim very little off trans bellhousing I have picts if anybodys interested
2. My shaftmasters drive shaft for non abs is too long. custom order your shaft I can barely get my shaft in without lowering trans or using worn out trans mount "which is already smushed down" this thing I think is bottoming in the trans. that cant be good im gonna put a j30 rear for the abs sensor so I can have speedo working hope fully I get the rear over the weekend and have it in next week ill keep you guys posted. Oh ya and I forgot to tell you guys that as far as I can see there or no differences between s chassis and z32 and early z33 clutch forks other than one stamped with a s "maybe made outta different material" I got picts of this too if anybody is interested

[Mile High Silvia]

awesome update!

[battosaii930]

Hmm I was planning on using the SR sleeve and throw out bearing and z33 fork and ball but I did not anticipate the driveshaft being too long and exhaust clearance isn't an issue I can get it modified here by my house. Well until I get everything in I can't bolt the tranny up and check drive shaft clearances, do you think the shorter Abs drive shaft will do the trick?

[battosaii930]

small update im selling my C230 Daily Driver because i just picked this up last night

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpsabb7c7ef.jpg

just a teaser cause she needs a wash

[ultimateirving]

Norcalta and Battosai, thanks for continuing to update, this is the information i love! and will be referring to when i take the plunge, hoping around next feb when i get my bonus. =)
Okay guys sorry for the long wait but finally got the transmission back from shop Sunday and started on it sunday night trying figure out which throwout, sleeve, fork and pivot ball are the best setup. So I see that you can order 2 different pinballs for s chassis there is ond from 89 to mid 91 and then a later one I purchased the later one thinking that it may be a revision. From what I have found the s chassis pinball DOES NOT WORK with the z33 6 speed period! It is too short and with possibly destroy your clutch slave. The z cars use a longer pinball in their cars they used this from 90-03 from what ive seen then they switched to the cast iron fork from a stamped steel fork the cast iron is supposed to be way stronger setup especially with. Chomoly pinball. I have heard that u can swap this to a sr or ka tranny witb the proper z33 pinball but I doubt it due to looking at the size difference the z33 and z32 pinballs "to use a late z33 fork in a z32 u would have to use the z33 pinball which is the same size as the s chassis one but the ball is completely round instead of half round like the s chassis". So after in and out. Few times the winning combo is z33 cast iron fork, s chassis sleeve, s chassis throwout bearing, z33 retainer spring, z33 pinball. No problems. Also using act xtreme 6 puck unsprung. So im finally happy to have this done!!!
so all the other issues that are a problem with this swap
1. Hope you have topmount or have easy access to a exaust shop because stock sr20det dump pipe is not even close to fitting. I found a cheap dump pipe online from ssautopower that had divorced wastegate and looked the easiest to mod only had to dimple in on the wastegate portion and trim very little off trans bellhousing I have picts if anybodys interested
2. My shaftmasters drive shaft for non abs is too long. custom order your shaft I can barely get my shaft in without lowering trans or using worn out trans mount "which is already smushed down" this thing I think is bottoming in the trans. that cant be good im gonna put a j30 rear for the abs sensor so I can have speedo working hope fully I get the rear over the weekend and have it in next week ill keep you guys posted. Oh ya and I forgot to tell you guys that as far as I can see there or no differences between s chassis and z32 and early z33 clutch forks other than one stamped with a s "maybe made outta different material" I got picts of this too if anybody is interested

[s13mikesr20]

your gonna love it!!!!!!

[epedomic]

finally, people are catching on. Ive been sitting on an z33 tranny for months now waiting on more info for the complete swap. this helps tremendously, thanks!

[battosaii930]

well nothing too major, i got my shift bracket back from Collins Performance but im still waiting on my adaptor plate and cross member. here are the two trannies lined up side by side, keep in mind the z33 tranny will sit another 3/8" further back because of the adaptor plate.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1593.jpg

i also bolted my turbo back up, replaced my rear main seal and i got in a box full of gaskets. im also still waiting on my chasebays powersteering kit, 3 weeks back order has turned into 8 weeks now. i may order some new inner and outer tie rod ends since they are so easy to change right now and mine look pretty shabby

ive also been having alot of fun driving around the S55 this thing is so smooth its rediculous and its got power to spare for a Daily
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1578.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/IMG_1579.jpg

[maces13]

This is so helpful. I'm doing this in a few months time and this thread makes me feel much better about doing it and ordering/buying all the parts. Thanks for the help bro

[kpnasty]

very cool. im sure this trans can take a beating, and still maintain cruising capability. hell yeah!

[simon240sx]

I have a question. I have purchased an adaptor plate from George. he told me to remove 1/2 inch from the bellhousing. I think the important thing is that the output shaft is in the same place on the z33 sr20. I will like know if other person buy this adaptor plate from George and i will like know how mani inch you have remove from the bellhousing. Thanks! And this is a very good project!

[battosaii930]

mine is from Brett Collins and mine was 3/8" removed from the bell housing but i havnt recieved my adaptor plate or my crossmember yet so i have not yet checked driveshaft clearance. im also waiting on my chasebays power steering kit waiting for parts this long with your ride in pieces is beyond infuriating but what can i do.

ive cleaned my engine bay iv fixed my hanging turbo problem, fixed my coolant line leak by replacing the -6AN 90 degree fitting, ive installed my 740cc injectors with new seals from nissan i installed a new rear main seal i probably should figure out my transmission bolt situation the plate is 3/8" thick so i just have to make sure bolts dont poke out more then 3/8" from the bellhousing

i also noticed my steering rack boots are all ripped and im thinking of replacing inner and outer tie rods as well as the boots

[turtle m3th]

That's odd that the plate would be 3/8" since every other plate that Brett makes is 5/8". And after looking at it on his sight, it appears to by the same thickness as my 1uz adapter, which is 5/8".

[battosaii930]

i talked to Brett Directly and he told me to have my transmission milled 3/8" or 9mm maybe the SR Adaptor plate is just a different thickness i dont know until i have it here

[rbs14kouki]

^ good to know !!!! i need to check up collins and goerge for the plate on my set-up

[Prok0]

Yea I actually worked with Brett on measuring up the OEM flywheel height, height of crank compared to the mating surface of the block, depth of splines on the clutch, etc. so that he could come up with exactly what needs to be milled off to get the trans in the right spot.

I have my bellhousing back from machining, and a linkeage I am going to try to modify here in the coming weeks so I can get the trans all buttoned up and back together.

[battosaii930]

good news guys Brett has shipped out my adapter plate and crossmember USPS says estimated arrival is on the 17th so hopefully soon by wednesday i can get things moving!

[battosaii930]

good update i just got in my Adaptor plate and crossmember!

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps58ddb138.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps4b70f426.jpg

as for transmission bolts you will need 6 M12x1.75 50mm long bolts and they all will need a washer of some kind because they are a hair too long.

i did have to mod my starter a bit to fit on the adaptor plate but ill talk about this tomorrow with pics, i unfortunately ran out of time today its super dark and i could not continue nor take good pics so tomorrow i will continue and make sure to take good daytime pics

[59bhp]

awesome info bud thanks for that :)

could you throw up a couple of pictures you have of the issues with the bottom mount turbo and dump pipe?

also do you have any pictures of what you had to trim of the bellhousing to get it to fit?

cheers

[battosaii930]

ok i did quite a bit and i did run into some problems.

ok now the SR starter has this ring about 1/4" high on it and to fit on the adapter plate you need to grind down that ring flush but not all the way around just the part that will make contact with the adaptor plate

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps00664595.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps42a1f5a3.jpg

here i replaced the friction plate on my flywheel
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpsd0415b7d.jpg

here is the adaptor plate with the fly wheel and clutch going on.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps83996941.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps70f6d1f0.jpg
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http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpsd014ceb5.jpg

now here is where i ran into my first problem, im using the SR bearing carrier with the Z33 fork and z33 spring clip.
left is SR spring clip and right is z33
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpsf0c3e63e.jpg
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http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps68ec7159.jpg

it ll went together fine but when i mated the tranny to the engine i find that the fork has full movement and does not even reach the pressure plate. my solution is to buy the collins bearing carrier made for this swap but i had thought the SR one would work.

all bolted up
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps5cb476ec.jpg

i used 1/8" thick washers and the bolts are just slighly too long still so i will switch for 1/4" washers

i put her back in the engine bay to check drive shaft clearance and i noticed i had a much harder time putting the engine in with the bigger tranny but it did go in

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpsb8817fdc.jpg

beefy! i do have to remove the factory rubber vibration absorber from the tranny it just makes it too tight
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps770740f1.jpg

anyway my driveshaft is about an inch too long i will have to contact shaft masters to see if they can help me out or if im just shafted.

so main problems i have to deal with now is that the drive shaft is too long and the throw out bearing carrier is too short ill try to update asap guys thanks for looking

[rbs14kouki]

Can you also take a picture from inside the car for the shifter position pls !

[battosaii930]

i have not cut out the shifter hole yet i was just mocking the engine its all coming back out.

i spoke to the guys at shaftmasters and it turns out i needed an ABS drive shaft because of my j30 lsd. I just found it weird since i never had a problem using the stock drive shaft on my j30 lsd now i have to ship it out to them so they can shorten it.

also about the exhaust clearance, i see how it needs to be modded i just have no experience welding so i wont be modding it my self ill just have my intercooler pipe guy fab me up a custom elbow

[battosaii930]

Ok shaftmasters has replaced my driveshaft and it's shipped out today and I ordered the collins throw out bearing carrier

[TheRealSy90]

So has nobody been able to retain the stock shifter position with the z33 transmission? That's probably the only thing that is keeping me from pulling the trigger on this swap. I want to retain the factory shifter boot and trim and I haven't seen that done yet.

[battosaii930]

There is no way of having the shifter sit in the factory shift area that I know of other then Moving then entire engine/tranny forward but that's impractical, it's really not that bad you don't need to modify the center console at all just the shifter bezel a little bit, I havnt done that yet because I've been so busy with work. I'm also thinking of running the clutch line through the firewall and in the car

[battosaii930]

well i had a long bad day, UPS did not ring my doorbell and i had to head out to the UPS constomer service and wait till about 9pm to get my package and as im waiting some jerkoff backed into the side of my S55 AMG and dented right rear door :(

eitherway i got the collins throw out bearing carrier and my drive shaft that fits perfectly!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zpse770a349.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps843bcb3f.jpg

its late so i dont have many pics but it was a test fit, tomorrow im going to mark out where i have to cut for the shifter hole and then pull my engine/tranny back out to get ready for the working install

[TheRealSy90]

So you can't run the rubber shift boot anymore and all the engine and outside smell and wind is going to come up threw the hole now?


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[battosaii930]

lol if you cant handle something as simple as sealing up the new shifter hole then you should stay stock that is the least of your worries.....

anyway here are some pics of me marking how much i would need to cut out but i have not cut anything yet.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps213a6ee9.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps2c45c84c.jpg

with the Center console in i was checking clearance and no you will not have to modify the center console only the shifter bezel.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps4a40e2a8.jpg

pulled my engine out again
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps3c4c58a2.jpg

i installed the collins throw out bearing but it was the exact same size as the SR one and did not work either so i talked to Brett and he will be sending me the longer throwout bearing carrier from the 1UZ swap i really hope that works... this project has been delays after delays after delays its stressing me out all i want is a little boost lol

oh and i did pick up a new door for my s55 now thats another project i will have to deal with soon enought

[s13mikesr20]

its worth every penny keep it up!!!!!


i love my z33 trans in my sr s13 the drifting is soooo easy now!!!!

[59bhp]

hey bud, this is very useful so please keep the updates coming.

how much clearance have you go between the top of the shifter bracket and the transmission tunnel?

basically im trying to figure out if you could bend the shifter forward (in like an "s" shape) to sit in the stock position rather than cutting out the transmission tunnel.

good work

[simon240sx]

Where do you bought your driving shaft?

[battosaii930]

hey bud, this is very useful so please keep the updates coming.

how much clearance have you go between the top of the shifter bracket and the transmission tunnel?

basically im trying to figure out if you could bend the shifter forward (in like an "s" shape) to sit in the stock position rather than cutting out the transmission tunnel.
good work
nope you need to cut this is it
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/null_zps213a6ee9.jpg
second pic is an example of shifter location on the bracket its not my own.
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff70/riashly/Picture139.jpg

Where do you bought your driving shaft?

i got my drive shaft from shaftmasters if you actually look at any part of this thread you would know that lol

[Upetr]

I have been following this thread ever since google found it for me :)
Keep up the good work btw.

I am in the process of doing the same thing - except I am using a different plate. I fitted the box only today and noticed that the clutch might not work fully but I can't confirm till I get my clutch line on Monday.

For now I made a longer rod to replace the short 350z one and hoping it works. But the reason I registered now was to contribute this >
30501-A3800 12mm
30501-N1601 14mm
30501-U0200 16mm
30501-S0200 18mm
30501-B6000 20mm
30501-S0160 22mm
30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14
30501-K0510 26mm
30501-N1600 28mm
30501-N8400 30mm
Those are different clutch sleeve lengths for different Nissans - exedy uses them depending on what flywheel/clutch you use.
I am going to order the longest one on Monday just in case as they are only about 20$ or so.

[battosaii930]

I have been following this thread ever since google found it for me :)
Keep up the good work btw.

I am in the process of doing the same thing - except I am using a different plate. I fitted the box only today and noticed that the clutch might not work fully but I can't confirm till I get my clutch line on Monday.

For now I made a longer rod to replace the short 350z one and hoping it works. But the reason I registered now was to contribute this >
30501-A3800 12mm
30501-N1601 14mm
30501-U0200 16mm
30501-S0200 18mm
30501-B6000 20mm
30501-S0160 22mm
30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14
30501-K0510 26mm
30501-N1600 28mm
30501-N8400 30mm
Those are different clutch sleeve lengths for different Nissans - exedy uses them depending on what flywheel/clutch you use.
I am going to order the longest one on Monday just in case as they are only about 20$ or so.

thanks for the info! very useful
hmm if the SR one is 24mm i dont know if the the 30mm one would work because with the 24mm one on i get full fork movement that the hole allows in the bell housing and it still does not touch the pressure plate, ill measure the one Brett is sending me and give you guys more solid info when it gets here.

I wrapped electrical tape on the splines of the input shaft on the tranny to see how far the splines go into the clutch and i have 5/8" engagement so its more then enough. my set up i had milled the bellhousing 3/8" and the adaptor plate is 5/8" thick.

i pretty much got everything i need to get my car running here at my house or on the way finally because i had canceled my chasebays p/s kit after over 3 months im done waiting its complete bs

[Upetr]

My setup is a little different - that's why I might be able to get away with it maybe (hope so).
My plate is 10mm and my bell housing was milled 13mm.

The problem is that you can't remove much more than that from the bell housing before it gets weaker. You could also space out the pivot maybe?

This is what mine looked like when it made contact with the clutch.
62743

[battosaii930]

My setup is a little different - that's why I might be able to get away with it maybe (hope so).
My plate is 10mm and my bell housing was milled 13mm.

The problem is that you can't remove much more than that from the bell housing before it gets weaker. You could also space out the pivot maybe?

This is what mine looked like when it made contact with the clutch.
62743

yea that may actually work for you then your atleast touches

[Black240Ct]

i put a exhaust washer on the pivot for the clutch fork, i have a nismo single copper mix and without the added length to the pivot my tb did not hit the clutch in the travel of the slave cylinder

[Upetr]

I just wanted to confirm that my clutch works with just a longer rod with my setup. Too bad the driveshaft is taking its time though.

Interestingly I didn't have to grind anything on the starter away either?

[inte_DK]

Don't you get the oem driveshaft with the transmission?
I cut mine down to fit the setup and it's working fine... I have attended two drift event but no quarter mile.

http://www.inte.dk/wp-content/5322.jpg


Are you making a guide when you fit the Dakota Digitals?

I had to modify my starter, because it would not disconnect from the flywheel.

[battosaii930]

yes i will make a guide for the dakota digital when i get to that point, im pretty sure the wireing will be straight forward, im not going to wire it directly to the gauge cluster im going to wire it to the speed sensor plug in the tranny harness

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Any updates?

[Upetr]

battosaii930 - did you sort out the engagement issue?

I have been driving my 6 speed setup since late November every day and all has been good.

I also got the Dakota Digital about two weeks ago and it is running well (took a few pics) so I can help out with that.

[TheRealSy90]

I'm curious why you are having these issues with the clutch? Shouldn't the people that make the adapter plate know EXACTLY which parts have to be used so that it works correctly?


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[brndck]

I'm curious why you are having these issues with the clutch? Shouldn't the people that make the adapter plate know EXACTLY which parts have to be used so that it works correctly?


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I was thinking the same thing. Especially since a number of other people (George marstanovic primarily) have done this swap and either not had these issues or just completely forgot to mention it.

[Upetr]

I agree.

The 350z shaft has extra length from the end to the splines (I measured about 11,5mm) due to the 350z having a dual mass flywheel. But you can only take off so much from the bell housing before it will get structurally too weak. I took 13mm off and you could probably get away with a little more but not much more. George's plate is 10mm which basically puts the input shaft as deep as the stock sr20det one into the crank.

Hope battosaii930 gets a resolution though. One possibility is to space out the flywheel but my advice would be to get his money back for his plate and get one from George as I doubt he will be able to remove a total of 19mm from the bellhousing to get the same penetration into the pilot bearing.

Otherwise - mill the plate to reduce the thickness a bit :D

[VizorS14]

battosaii930 - did you sort out the engagement issue?

I have been driving my 6 speed setup since late November every day and all has been good.

I also got the Dakota Digital about two weeks ago and it is running well (took a few pics) so I can help out with that.

i'm curious, was the longer rod enough or did you put in the 30mm clutch sleeve instead of the stock 24mm?

[Upetr]

The longer rod was more than enough with the stock 24mm sleeve.

[VizorS14]

cool thanks for the info.
did you buy a finished driveshaft or did you make one yourself? (first half g35 with the s14a rear half)

[Upetr]

I inquired about decent driveshaft places in my area and called them to ask if they had 350z yokes. They asked me about the length of the driveshaft (distance between the oil seal in the gearbox to the flange of the rear shaft and the rear bolt spacing) so that it would fit to the stock s14 rear shaft.

[VizorS14]

great, as i've got the first half of a G35 and a spare rear half of the s14 driveshaft.
once i'll have some car time, i'll check the shops in my area. cheers mate!

[d_nice]

looking good so far

[ultimateirving]

Ive got my first piece, got a good deal on a tranny!

[juvi22003]

Coming along nicely....

[battosaii930]

sorry for the delay guys life and bills caught up with me but now i think im back on track

Collins did end up sending me the right throw out bearing carrier and shaftmasters did end up giving me a new shaft that fits perfect!

the engine goes in the same way a regular SR goes in except the space in the tranny tunnel is a hell of alot more tight so there isnt alot of room to maneuver.

got the engine in the car finally
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/A7E53A21-E8EC-43F3-9849-486C8D7504CF.jpg

i had to cut the transmission tunnel a bit for the new shifter but it clears the center console just fine
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/66D5434E-B5C4-4E39-AFA3-EBCDD2E58B13.jpg

here it is with the shifter in place and my nismo shifter knob showing off the 6 speed sticker lol
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/AE259FDB-76A8-4CAF-918D-6ED2B46BC41C.jpg

removed the valve cover to paint it and put new seals on it and found my head to be quite clean for an engine built in 1992
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/C34F95D3-8A04-47A5-A40A-20DC909516DD.jpg
i do change the oil mobile 1 every 3k miles

all it took was a little degreaser and a hose, no scrubbing at all to get my valve cover looking like this.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/F00640B8-4F86-4A76-AD7F-F971CFEA20B0.jpg

Metallic Redfire Pearl
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/D7FEDA4C-1620-4476-B42A-01739B7EF534.jpg

all cured with clear coat on
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/13ABDBC2-D29B-4091-AC03-30A584F93703.jpg

got the drive shaft and the exhaust back on.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/ABA5D184-D739-4E98-BAD1-B31717664DE5.jpg

since the slave cylinder on the z33 tranny is on the exhaust side of the SR20 engine i routed the clutch line under the frame rain to where the factory steel brake line goes to avoid exhaust heat i also ended up wrapping my downpipe with heat wrap
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/E6E598ED-0831-4F7D-BAA1-C6F6B0B9294B.jpg

and just to make sure i wont be melting any rubber boots from running the 2 step i made a little heatshield from a piece of factory KA24 exhaust heat shielding.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/1F42CB9B-004E-4F9A-B4A2-6355C4E1689E.jpg

i always wondered why my SR always took a while to get warm, so i went to change my thermostat with a new one just because the engine was out and its cheap i found the car never had a thermostat just a skeleton of one lol!
Top is new bottom is the old skeleton that was in my car lol.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/A861D5B3-ACBD-4A47-AAD9-ECFA84666A59.jpg

new belts from Gates my old belts were all dry rotted
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/3DA8308B-CC5A-40CE-AC70-46CE4C1D8A47.jpg

found a perfect place on my strut tower for my Sard FPR, no modding needed the holes were threaded and perfectly spaced for the SARD bracket lol
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/0C93D4D8-1A63-47FC-9483-CB7C188925B1.jpg

was testing the hot pipe to see if there was enough clearance with the intake and there is
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/8DC00A19-2F86-4F3C-B7CE-BB048B6E4FC6.jpg

and finally these sensors have been lost with USPS for 31 days now and they just showered up today! now i have everything electronically to finish this!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/F8124DCF-C613-4E5A-AB32-A9F37B6AA9ED.jpg

more to come, i need to buy some silicone couplers and tbolt clamps before i can tune but that should be soon enough

[kilamax03]

Ill shit man! Keep it up

[ultimateirving]

Awesome progress battosai, i have my z33 trans at the shop getting machined as we speak. as soon as i get it back im driving the car to my buddys garage to get started!

[Rb26kouki]

i really want to do this, looks like a lot of work. my only concern will be the turbo elbow clearance just got the new updated Elbow from TOMEI && its huge compare to any elbow I've seen for the SR

[K_style]

I like the custom heat shield you have. haha

Good work!

[battosaii930]

lol thanks

im having an issue right now though, im trying to wire in my sensors i got the Map Sensor all wired up then i move on to the AIT use pin 29 for ground and pin 26 for signal ok simple i tapped the ground on pin 29 and then i see pin 26 on the ECU connector not being used at all on the Wireing specialties harness so i try to use one of the AEM supplied pins i crimped it and it will not go in the plug. i pulled one of the pins out from the wireing specialties harness and the the pin was different from the AEM and my OEM nissan pin. I called up Wireing specialties and they were nice enough to ship me a set of pins for free i just need to wait till it gets here i need it for my AIT and Boost controller to be wired in to the EMS

[ultimateirving]

Can you guys tell me the length of the Driveshafts you had made, And what you paid roughly. Im trying to price them in AZ and figure out whats the best for the money, I know some guy said he had the oem that was modified to fit, and others had custom made.

THank you. My trans should be back from the machine chop this week.

[battosaii930]

Well I got my drive shaft from shaft masters aluminum for $387 shipped.

With the z33 tranny and the j30 diff I had to use the abs drive shaft wich is weird cause with the stock sr tranny I used the stock non abs shaft anyway the length of the shaft is 50 5/8" inches long

[maverickmotorsports]

I was thinking the same thing. Especially since a number of other people (George marstanovic primarily) have done this swap and either not had these issues or just completely forgot to mention it.

Just wanted to chime in. I completely didn't see this thread but I am more than happy to answer any questions.

We've used our adapter kits on the following clutches.

Exedy Hyper Single
Exedy Twin
Exedy stage 1-2
Competition twin
Carbonetic/ATS single
SPEC (any stage)
ACT (any stage)
SPEC twin
ORC single
OS Giken Single
RPS
XTD(customer used it.....not us)

There might be more out there from customers I haven't heard from but that covers quite a bit of the clutches available. All worked great and engaged like they should.

I agree.

The 350z shaft has extra length from the end to the splines (I measured about 11,5mm) due to the 350z having a dual mass flywheel. But you can only take off so much from the bell housing before it will get structurally too weak. I took 13mm off and you could probably get away with a little more but not much more. George's plate is 10mm which basically puts the input shaft as deep as the stock sr20det one into the crank.

Hope battosaii930 gets a resolution though. One possibility is to space out the flywheel but my advice would be to get his money back for his plate and get one from George as I doubt he will be able to remove a total of 19mm from the bellhousing to get the same penetration into the pilot bearing.

Otherwise - mill the plate to reduce the thickness a bit :D

Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear its all working out. Our plate is thinner which allows for all the spacing to have a smaller stackup and allows better engagement of the splines and TOB.

We've had very good success with using the KA/SR carrier. You could try the 30mm one mentioned but it will get the TOB 6mm closer. We try to keep ~.200" away from the pressure plate to allow the fingers to grow as the clutch wears. This is what we were told by multiple clutch companies and is an industry standard.

Lastly please make sure you are using a matched clutch fork and pivot ball setup. The Z33 box went through a change from a long pivot to short and the clutch fork was changed accordingly. Using mismatched parts will cause engagement issues.

As always feel free to call me anytime and discuss and questions or concerns about the swap. I've sold 100+ of these and done a bunch locally with great results.

[ultimateirving]

Awesome info Thanks George.
Can't wait to get mine back from you, so I can get started. Just wanted to chime in. I completely didn't see this thread but I am more than happy to answer any questions.

We've used our adapter kits on the following clutches.

Exedy Hyper Single
Exedy Twin
Exedy stage 1-2
Competition twin
Carbonetic/ATS single
SPEC (any stage)
ACT (any stage)
SPEC twin
ORC single
OS Giken Single
RPS
XTD(customer used it.....not us)

There might be more out there from customers I haven't heard from but that covers quite a bit of the clutches available. All worked great and engaged like they should.



Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear its all working out. Our plate is thinner which allows for all the spacing to have a smaller stackup and allows better engagement of the splines and TOB.

We've had very good success with using the KA/SR carrier. You could try the 30mm one mentioned but it will get the TOB 6mm closer. We try to keep ~.200" away from the pressure plate to allow the fingers to grow as the clutch wears. This is what we were told by multiple clutch companies and is an industry standard.

Lastly please make sure you are using a matched clutch fork and pivot ball setup. The Z33 box went through a change from a long pivot to short and the clutch fork was changed accordingly. Using mismatched parts will cause engagement issues.

As always feel free to call me anytime and discuss and questions or concerns about the swap. I've sold 100+ of these and done a bunch locally with great results.

[battosaii930]

ok i have the engine harness all hooked up but im having a small issue. Does anyone know how to deal with AEM EMS? i was trying to upload the base calibration but it kept saying it cant cause the engine is running and says 80 rpm on the live data with the engine off, i had to unplug the cas for it to read 0 rpm and install the base calibration.

i have no idea if it will start or not my battery was at 10v for sitting so long so i have it hooked up to a battery tender charging it for the night.

[ultimateirving]

ok i have the engine harness all hooked up but im having a small issue. Does anyone know how to deal with AEM EMS? i was trying to upload the base calibration but it kept saying it cant cause the engine is running and says 80 rpm on the live data with the engine off, i had to unplug the cas for it to read 0 rpm and install the base calibration.

i have no idea if it will start or not my battery was at 10v for sitting so long so i have it hooked up to a battery tender charging it for the night.

Low voltage can cause sensors to do funky things. let it charge and see if it helps the situation.

[battosaii930]

sorted some wireing issues with my starter and i was getting the wrong values because the base map for my engine was using a denso map sensor and no AIT i have both aem counterparts i switched them in the wizard and now i get correct values i wish i could find real base calibrations for the 6601 s13 sr but there is none the only calibration available is already set up for an engine with a map sensor and 550cc injectors the AEM version 1 had multiple SR base caliblrations

[TheRealSy90]

I've got a z33 trans and George's adapter plate on the way supposed to show up today actually.

Is there any info out there for using the HR transmission? The adapter plate has already been modified for it, but i'm wondering about the throw out bearing being as the HR trans has an internal slave. I heard a rumor that you can bolt on the external slave instead? Would the internal slave not work with an sr clutch?

[ultimateirving]

I've got a z33 trans and George's adapter plate on the way supposed to show up today actually.

Is there any info out there for using the HR transmission? The adapter plate has already been modified for it, but i'm wondering about the throw out bearing being as the HR trans has an internal slave. I heard a rumor that you can bolt on the external slave instead? Would the internal slave not work with an sr clutch?

I'm going to meet George to get my trans and adapter/parts today. He just had a custom bushing made for the hr trans like mine and yours. So all you need is the bushing and it's an easier install than the older model trans.

[TheRealSy90]

I'm going to meet George to get my trans and adapter/parts today. He just had a custom bushing made for the hr trans like mine and yours. So all you need is the bushing and it's an easier install than the older model trans.


Awesome! Who do I have to get ahold of to get the bushing? So do you retain the internal slave? Also i'm using an ORC Super Single clutch and they use a slightly smaller diameter throw out bearing, but people have used the normal sr tob with it also, just would make the clutch pedal a bit stiffer than it's supposed to be. I'm sure that I won't be able to use the ORC tob.

[ultimateirving]

Awesome! Who do I have to get ahold of to get the bushing? So do you retain the internal slave? Also i'm using an ORC Super Single clutch and they use a slightly smaller diameter throw out bearing, but people have used the normal sr tob with it also, just would make the clutch pedal a bit stiffer than it's supposed to be. I'm sure that I won't be able to use the ORC tob.

George was the one who told me. So send him a pm or text.

[battosaii930]

got all my gauges wired up
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/046F2D5E-55EE-446A-AD59-CAFB2753994B.jpg

[ultimateirving]

Awesome! Who do I have to get ahold of to get the bushing? So do you retain the internal slave? Also i'm using an ORC Super Single clutch and they use a slightly smaller diameter throw out bearing, but people have used the normal sr tob with it also, just would make the clutch pedal a bit stiffer than it's supposed to be. I'm sure that I won't be able to use the ORC tob.
Here is the picture of the bushing/spacer, just got it all tonight.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/guitarist_of_punk/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-03/5DF722A1-A2F4-479B-9197-1C41A8837D90_zpsahtahgu1.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/guitarist_of_punk/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-03/5DF722A1-A2F4-479B-9197-1C41A8837D90_zpsahtahgu1.jpg.html)

[TheRealSy90]

I'm guessing that will allow you to retain the internal slave cylinder and put it farther forward so it will reach the pressure plate? Have you figured out how to plumb the internal slave into the clutch line? I noticed there's two lines on it instead of one.

[ultimateirving]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/guitarist_of_punk/240sx%20sr20det/42667E94-559D-4F26-9CE4-6949EACC100E_zpslst7e2li.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/guitarist_of_punk/media/240sx%20sr20det/42667E94-559D-4F26-9CE4-6949EACC100E_zpslst7e2li.jpg.html)
And my six speed swap begins! I'm gonna update with any progress or hang ups
So we keep this thread on topic. And to help out others who attempt this of course.

[TheRealSy90]

Ordered the HR tob spacer from Maverick Motorsports.

Can somebody make a shifter for me? The previous owner cut the stock shifter up and I think I have all the pieces I could send to someone, but idk what to do from there or what else is needed. Does the factory shifter have a reverse lockout or is that internal of the transmission? I was able to shift the selector from 5th to reverse.

[battosaii930]

drove around the block and everything is smooth but i will say damn that trans is loud i still need to cover up the shifter hole though

[battosaii930]

shes running
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/ED39E1D7-75FE-420B-900F-6C544C99957F_1.jpg

i had to seal the hole so i used the factory metal ring and bottom rubber and trimmed it

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/41FE8D51-4594-4E52-917C-681D76675DAA.jpg

then i covered it all with dynamat and the sound is not barely noticable!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/F1558EDB-A63A-4840-9CC0-A90661703A83.jpg

here she is with all the interior put back together, i have to trim the back of the shifter bezel so i can actually use 2nd 4th and 6th but i just wanted it to look prety for the pic.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/967D88A7-1C61-4F8E-B6FC-E67C0E006CC1.jpg

[battosaii930]

Normal slow driving you won't really see too much of a difference between the 6 speed and the 5 speed but when you get on it hard 3rd gear is amazing, I have the aem boost solenoid all hooked up but I wasn't using it yet I only ran the stock 10lbs on the 2871r I can't wait to get it properly dyno tuned

[TheRealSy90]

Figure out anything for the speedo yet? I was thinking about using kouki s13 front knuckles that have the abs sensors and wiring them to the dakota converter.

[onehundredoctane]

Figure out anything for the speedo yet? I was thinking about using kouki s13 front knuckles that have the abs sensors and wiring them to the dakota converter.

ABS signal from the front hubs is a bad idea. You want the speed signal coming from the rears since you're rear wheel drive.

[battosaii930]

actually front hub abs is not a bad idea you will get actual speed versus rear wheel speed and you can use this to set up a traction control set up like i can with my AEM EMS and its a great system for dragracing but thats not what im going for.

im doing a bit of research on how im going to wire the Dakota digital to my j30 abs sensor but ill be sure to document how i did it, im just dealing with my tune for now though cause its running super rich im using about 5 bucks in gas every time i go out for test runs and its only 3-4 miles lol its running about 10.4 AFR at all loads

once i get that sorted out ill be wireing and testing more to see what works with the Dakota box

[ultimateirving]

My trans is mounted to the engine and ready for install!
And I was thinking about the Dakota digital but for a car that's not a daily driver it's easier to use the gps speed on my cell phone app or from a dash mounted gps unit, the cost of the Dakota wasn't worth it to me

actually front hub abs is not a bad idea you will get actual speed versus rear wheel speed and you can use this to set up a traction control set up like i can with my AEM EMS and its a great system for dragracing but thats not what im going for.

im doing a bit of research on how im going to wire the Dakota digital to my j30 abs sensor but ill be sure to document how i did it, im just dealing with my tune for now though cause its running super rich im using about 5 bucks in gas every time i go out for test runs and its only 3-4 miles lol its running about 10.4 AFR at all loads

once i get that sorted out ill be wireing and testing more to see what works with the Dakota box
Heres a picture for fun! http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/guitarist_of_punk/240sx%20sr20det/0A24055D-298B-441C-A6FD-7216C7D0BA45_zps0s8xdozn.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/guitarist_of_punk/media/240sx%20sr20det/0A24055D-298B-441C-A6FD-7216C7D0BA45_zps0s8xdozn.jpg.html)
Late model z33 trans with the internal Concentric slave cylinder.
Also, i have the megan turbo elbow, and i had to grind the side of the trans bellhousing where the starter would connect on the Z. It didnt impact any of the mounting holes nor the integrity of the bellhousing.

[rbs14kouki]

My tuner had a gps speed sensor from autometer laying around !

He wired it to its aem ecu and it work number one on the laptop ! You would need a aim or racepak dash !!! Im not sure about the stock dash reading that gps

Ill be doing that on my car when my z33 trans is in

[RaNMaN]

Nice swap OP.

I'm fairly certain that most if not all GPS speedometers have an analog output, the stock 240 cluster needs an alternating current (AC) signal such as coming from an abs sensor. I get my speedometer reading from using an abs sensor then I slow down the signal and adjust it with a Dakota digital sgi-5, it's super easy to do and cheaper than most GPS units that I've seen. I like it, the signal never drops, you don't have to mount an antenna. Both ways work just letting you know.

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[ultimateirving]

Is anyone changing out their rear end gear ratio? What would be good for z33 trans and 350+hp sr.. I wonder

[Black240Ct]

Is anyone changing out their rear end gear ratio? What would be good for z33 trans and 350+hp sr.. I wonder

I have a 4.36 with z33 trans. I'm very happy with it.


Having an issues now that my trans sits too low and scrapes on the ground. Gonna have to redo my trans mount. Hope I don't have issues hitting the trans tunnel

[TheRealSy90]

My trans is mounted to the engine and ready for install!
And I was thinking about the Dakota digital but for a car that's not a daily driver it's easier to use the gps speed on my cell phone app or from a dash mounted gps unit, the cost of the Dakota wasn't worth it.

Late model z33 trans with the internal Concentric slave cylinder.

Yeah I was just thinking, I'm going to get a daily driver before I do the trans swap anyways, so who cares I can just use a gps app when I need it.

Mind if I ask what clutch you are using on your sr? I'll be using an ORC 409D super single. George said someone has used his plate before with that clutch, but not with a internal slave trans. I got the slave spacer and everything so I'm hoping it all works out. Still trying to find a shifter.

[ultimateirving]

Yeah I was just thinking, I'm going to get a daily driver before I do the trans swap anyways, so who cares I can just use a gps app when I need it.

Mind if I ask what clutch you are using on your sr? I'll be using an ORC 409D super single. George said someone has used his plate before with that clutch, but not with a internal slave trans. I got the slave spacer and everything so I'm hoping it all works out. Still trying to find a shifter.

dude i have a spare shifter i accidentally ordered 2 so please hit me up for it. ill give you a good price.

and im using my old SR clutch, Spec stage 3, its barely a year old and has plenty of life.

[ultimateirving]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/guitarist_of_punk/240sx%20sr20det/C8E2455F-A3B0-4316-8DDD-B1C41FC6DE0F_zpsdft8qh8p.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/guitarist_of_punk/media/240sx%20sr20det/C8E2455F-A3B0-4316-8DDD-B1C41FC6DE0F_zpsdft8qh8p.jpg.html)


She is installed. Was a little bit of a pain getting the motor mounts to line up and the trans doesn't sit level until I notch the shifter hole. It's barely hitting. Also did I mention previously I had to grind down the Bellhousing where the elbow touches the would-be starter location on the stock z

[crewchief05]

Who would everyone who has actually done this swap recommend to get their kit from? George or Collins? No slamming just personal experience.

[ultimateirving]

George is local for me and his kit went together flawlessly. Plus it came with all the hardware you need for the transmission in the mount

[crewchief05]

George is local for me and his kit went together flawlessly. Plus it came with all the hardware you need for the transmission in the mount

S13 or S14?

[ultimateirving]

S13 or S14?

S13/s13 sr with oem replacement motor mounts. Other than the shifter hole, nothing on the body needed to be modified.

[battosaii930]

nice ultimate, i forgot to mention that i did have to also grind that area down on my transmission to make room for the bottom mount turbo elbow

the collins kit works greak but Brett is a bit slow making the parts and sending it out the issue i had with the throw out bearing carrier was not bretts fault apparently the 05+ tranny has a shorter pivot ball then the 03-04 trannies and if i would have used the 03-04 pivot ball i would not have had the issue. but the 6 speed runs super smooth even with the 6 puck act extreme clutch its not an unbearable engagement like my brothers clutchmasters clutch is and the gears fly so fast! the car feels like a beast and i have less power then i did before i took the engine out because now im running 10psi because of the untuned AEM

i love it and you will too! totally worth the money heck i spent more on my wheels then i did on the 6 speed swap

also the collins transmission crossmember lets me use the regular sr/ka transmission mount which i was happy about because ive had Nismo mounts for about 5 years now and im super happy with them and they still look new

[crewchief05]

Yea battosaii930 I actually called and pointed them to your thread. He was pretty bumbed to see you didnt use the throw out bearing carrier. I agree the collins kit is awesome but the turn around time seems leghthy. Do you have any chattering coming from the clutch engagement or anything?

[TheRealSy90]

I also reccomend George's "Maverick Motorsports" kit just because of the ease of install. No issues. Plus he even made the new parts for us guys that wanted to use the revised 08+ HR trans.

[battosaii930]

yes i do get some chattering but i really dont hear it much its not too loud with the shifter hole sealed up but the car does shift super smooth

[crewchief05]

What about you TheRealSy90.since you used George's setup did you have any chattering?

[ultimateirving]

What about you TheRealSy90.since you used George's setup did you have any chattering?

His trans isn't in the car yet. I'm very close to driving so I'll let you know what kind of chattering I experience with
George's kit. I'm also using a spec stage 3 sr clutch.

[crewchief05]

Im sending mine off this week. But for sure keep us all updqted. Ill be using a spec stage 2 as well.

[battosaii930]

from what i heard the chattering is from using a lightlweight flywheel and has nothing to do with whos transmission swap kit you use but im not worried at all ive seen much much much worse chattering on an evo

[ill.]

Hmmmm. Just taken the car for a long drive.

It seems I am getting some chattering off throttle. Goes away the moment you put the clutch in while rolling. Anybody getting this?

Had it up on stands and it seems to be backlash resonating through the 1 piece driveshaft.

[battosaii930]

That's exactly the chatter I get I don't think its a big deal though

[ill.]

Yeah. I just turn the radio up haha.

My diff has huge amounts of backlash, but I'm going to a GTR rear end setup sooner rather than later so that should rule that out as the cause.

[battosaii930]

no movement in my rear end and my j30 vlsd is quite healthy since i dont drift i just do the occasional auto-x and spirited driving

[Black240Ct]

Yup my trans is very loud compared to an sr and vibrates more. I think it's the nature of the transmission. 350z guys have been crying about it for ever

[TheRealSy90]

It just makes everything more racecar. Tell people you have an osgiken dogbox with h-pattern shifter conversion.

[crewchief05]

If only it were true haha. Btw sending my bellhousing, shift linkage, shift bracket today....WINNING! (Going withGeorge's kit)

[ultimateirving]

If only it were true haha. Btw sending my bellhousing, shift linkage, shift bracket today....WINNING! (Going withGeorge's kit)

Woot woot, Soon you shall be driving again!


Edited for update, new driveshaft arrived. Pretty much all my harness is reconnected and I just need to install my radiator and intercooler piping. Then fill with fluids and it's time to drive.

[crewchief05]

Did you go 1 pc aluminum or steel?

[TheRealSy90]

Sinced i've already had a 1pc aluminum with my sr for 3 years, i figured I would just stay aluminum with the z trans, although people have been telling me to go back to steel because of the "rotating mass". But I like the aluminum shaft.

[ultimateirving]

Did you go 1 pc aluminum or steel?

Steel driveshaft $250 made here at a local shop.

Drove car last night and it was awesome, need to bleed clutch better and fix a coolant leak then I can rip on it.

[loucal]

Chiming in here as well. Putting most of this together this weekend. Do you guys have reverse lights? I know thats random but i figured I'd ask.

2005 CD009 Trans 51k miles
Collins Adapter
Collins Throwout bearing Carrier
Collins Tans Cross member
Fidanza Flyhweel
ACT 6Puck Clutch.

Still trying to decide how to get the speedo to work. I have J30 diff so i suppose i can use the Dakota box.

Will keep you all updated as well.

This is an excellent thread btw not too many out there about this setup.

-Lou

[ultimateirving]

Lou I chopped my reverse light clip off the stock sr trans. And I'm gonna see if I can wire it to connect with the Z reverse sensor with some spade clips or something then make sure the harness can reach the factory plug.

This is all theory so I don't even know if the signals will interface

[TheRealSy90]

Should just be an ON-OFF sensor basicaly, completing the circuit when in reverse to throw the lights on.

[Lidgsa]

version will work also?http://sister.thewindowdi.com/4.jpg

[ultimateirving]

Drove to work today. Clutch chatter is definitely more noticeable. Also in getting a fair amount of vibration on the freeway around 2500-3k rpms. I don't think it's bad just a side effect of the large trans in a tight tunnel

[rbs14kouki]

Are you guys running solid mount on engine/tranny ? Maybe a reason why you guys get vibration ?!?

[loucal]

I'll be on nismo mounts all around. Not a fan of solid mounts. Will let you know how it feels once its all back together.

-Lou

[ultimateirving]

I'll be on nismo mounts all around. Not a fan of solid mounts. Will let you know how it feels once its all back together.

-Lou

I'm on stock mounts. Fresh motor mounts up front and reused the stock trans mount.

[maverickmotorsports]

Drove to work today. Clutch chatter is definitely more noticeable. Also in getting a fair amount of vibration on the freeway around 2500-3k rpms. I don't think it's bad just a side effect of the large trans in a tight tunnel

We noticed this vibration with the R&D car(joes car).

There are a few spots where the transmission will lightly touch the tunnel and cause a vibration. It depends on motor mounts but with a small amount of hammering you can get the noise to quiet down quite a bit.

[rbs14kouki]

On my set-up ill be running most likely a stock tranny mount and a set of ForcedFab engine mount up front ! Ill make sure to double check the tranny to tunnel clearence

I also have a question ! My tranny need 1 / 2 and 3 gear with the synchros . Do you guys have a good place to buy those parts ?

[TheRealSy90]

i've always had solid engine and trans mounts on my sr (billet blocks with a hole through the middle) so i'm not expecting any more vibration than I already have haha.

[loucal]

Anyone want to post there Speedo solutions? Not a fan of the GPS setup. I'd like my Speedometer to actually function.

-Lou

[ultimateirving]

They already been discussed. Dakota digital converter is really you best choice for oem functionality.

[rbs14kouki]

Just got a 06 z33 tranny for 250$ today ... i wont need to rebuilt my orher one in a rush to drive my car !

[TheRealSy90]

Nice pickup! Going with george's adapter?

[rbs14kouki]

Yeah for 250$ i took a chance on the tranny ! Its not a cd009 but it will do thw job

I have the autotech motorsport adaptor plate ! Just waiting on my friend to machine the bellhousing

My first trany is a cd009 and im pretty sure it needs a rebuilt (syncro on the 2 and 3 gear ar use in * / * compare to * < * )! This new one looks alot lile my first one (syncro) but ill just slap it on and see if i can drive it lile that for abit !

[ultimateirving]

600 miles later and the concentric slave failed.
I used a brand new nissan slave when installing the trans and somehow it has failed already. 0 clutch pedal pressure and I can see clutch fluid seeping out of the bell housing.

[TheRealSy90]

Great... Now I have something to look forward to when I do my trans swap :'(

Do you think you got a bad slave? The only upgraded slave i know of is like 400 dollars!

[Rb26kouki]

This is the internal slave your peaking of?


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[ultimateirving]

Yes i havent taken the time to pull it apart yet, but it has fluid leaking from the bell housing seam, that is clear as the clutch fluid i put in. And i can see it surge when my friend pushes the clutch pedal. 0 pedal pressure, has to be manually pumped.

I found a zspeed one for about $200, which looks to be the only option for a CSC to work with aftermarket pressure plates.

[TheRealSy90]

Yeah I think that might be the one I found also. I really don't want to have to spend that much on a slave cylinder! Ugh... I guess i'll see how long my oem one lasts...

[battosaii930]

ouch that sucks, so far so good for me im not having any problems other then my tranny being a noisy bitch lol but im just complaining cause ive been spoiled by the comfort of luxury german cars man im getting old!

no leaks no issiues other then noise, when idling in neutral the throw out bearing has a high pitch sound if i slightly press the clutch it gets a bit louder and if i fully press the clutch the sound goes away completely and i chatter like a mofo but thats normal for a non dual mass flywheel.

im glad i went with the external slave set up i dont have to drop my tranny if i have slave issues but that sucks ultimate let us know how it goes

[maverickmotorsports]

Yes i havent taken the time to pull it apart yet, but it has fluid leaking from the bell housing seam, that is clear as the clutch fluid i put in. And i can see it surge when my friend pushes the clutch pedal. 0 pedal pressure, has to be manually pumped.

I found a zspeed one for about $200, which looks to be the only option for a CSC to work with aftermarket pressure plates.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/recall-notice-for-2007-350z-clutch-slave-t306435.html

They recalled certain VIN ranges on those.

Either way the OEM one is made of plastic and is pretty weak. Apparently the 350z/370z community is having issues with them as well.

[ultimateirving]

Anyone tried and successfully removed the transmission after it has been installed. I gotta replace my CSC and haven't gathered the energy to start pulling everything back out. I just paid to have the a/c recharged before it failed.

So I'm trying to see if anyone has been able to jack up the car loosen the engine mounts and remove the z33 trans without pulling the whole engine.

[battosaii930]

Anyone tried and successfully removed the transmission after it has been installed. I gotta replace my CSC and haven't gathered the energy to start pulling everything back out. I just paid to have the a/c recharged before it failed.

So I'm trying to see if anyone has been able to jack up the car loosen the engine mounts and remove the z33 trans without pulling the whole engine.

what i do with the a/c is i just losen the ac belt and pull it off the compressor pully then i just unbolt the compressor from the engine and leave it in the engine bay when i pull the motor that way i dont have to mess with the a/c

now being able to pull and reinstall the tranny w/o pulling the engine im not sure let me know how that goes and if you run into issues etc

[TheRealSy90]

http://forums.nicoclub.com/recall-notice-for-2007-350z-clutch-slave-t306435.html

They recalled certain VIN ranges on those.

Either way the OEM one is made of plastic and is pretty weak. Apparently the 350z/370z community is having issues with them as well.


Hmm, I wonder if my trans would fall under that being that it came off an 08 z. Is there a vin on the trans that I could run?

[ultimateirving]

Hmm, I wonder if my trans would fall under that being that it came off an 08 z. Is there a vin on the trans that I could run?

Yes follow the link and it guides you to the vin check, but by 08 it was corrected(supposedly)
I still think the current Z owners have issues with the OEM units when going with heavier than OEM pressure plates.

[TheRealSy90]

So pretty much most aftermarket sr20 pressure plates will be heavier than the oem Z plate... :(

Thinking I should have held out for an external slave trans...

[norcalta]

Right now I have the 4.08 rear end still in but have a 3.90 j30 with abs sensor and Dakota digital right now waiting to go in I've been lagging mainly because I want a turbo and if I don't get a turbo before i swap rears the car might slow down a little and i just love the way it feels with the 6speed. At 65mph i turn 3000 rpms in 6th

[TheRealSy90]

That's not even that bad idk why you want to go to a taller rear end. Might have to run at 4k on the freeway but I do it all the time anyways.

[konjiki7]

Has anyone been able to use a longer rod with the 350z throwout bearing?

I'm just about to startup my sr20ve-t build...

How much longer was the slave cylinder rod extended?

[Upetr]

Yeah - I am using a longer rod but I can't tell you exactly how much longer. It was probably in the region of just over an inch.

You could also get a longer bearing carrier compared to the sr20det one which is 24mm. I got a 30mm one (from Nissan) but I am not taking the box off just for that since I have been driving it fine for a while now.

[ultimateirving]

Well i pulled out the old concentric slave, it did have a tear in the rubber part. Not sure how it tore/burst but i replaced it with another new CSC. Got the engine reinstalled into the car and thats where i left it for the night.

[loucal]

Hoping to have mine up and running this weekend! Will keep you all posted.

It was hell trying to get the motor and trans in with this bigger trans.

-Lou

[battosaii930]

awesome ultimate glad you got it fixed.

Lou yea it is a pain to get the engine mounts to drop in place with the larger tranny but glad you got it done im happy people are doing this swap!

now as for me i was messing with the 2 step fuction on the AEM and i have a good set up but im not able to use it at the moment because i just dont want to have a switch to activate the 2 step but the AEM EMS has an option to activate the 2 step depending on the vehicle speed, basicly i can have it set up to only be activate at a certain speed or below im going for 0-4mph but for that to work i need my speedo to work so i guess you guys know what that means.

Tomorrow im going to stop being lazy and attempt the Dakota Digital install with pictures and lots of info on how i did it. if i am successful hell maybe a burn out video!

[crewchief05]

So the clutch line for a 240 fits to the Z33 Trans with no issues at all? Or......

[TheRealSy90]

I believe you have to get a braided line from the master cylinder to the trans because the slave is on the opposite side? The lines for 5sp swaps work apparently. I think they may also work for the HR trans with the internal slave?

[ultimateirving]

I believe you have to get a braided line from the master cylinder to the trans because the slave is on the opposite side? The lines for 5sp swaps work apparently. I think they may also work for the HR trans with the internal slave?

Yes I just bought an s13 steel braided line and it fits fine. My line doesn't swivel at the transmission side. So I do recommended installing that part first.

[battosaii930]

Yes the steel braided line works perfect I just ran it through the brake line grimet on the strut tower to avoid any exhaust heat.

Now as for the Dakota digital I wired it in and took a few pics but I ran out of time today to mess with it, it does work I get a reading on my speedo but it's way off tomorrow I'll post the install and show what I did to make it work

[loucal]

If your still having trouble with the AEM feel
Free to message me. I have the exact same setup.

-lou

[battosaii930]

ok guys i got the Dakota Digital Installed and working but keep in mind i still need to figure out how to adjust it properly ive had very limited time recently so i havnt had time to fiddle with it all day but atleast this can show how how to get to where i am at right now.

first thing i did was get under the car and strip whats left of my ABS sensor harness on my J30 diff
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/8477318A-605E-4739-99AD-F61BF36F164C.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/battosaii930/media/Mobile%20Uploads/8477318A-605E-4739-99AD-F61BF36F164C.jpg.html)

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/090BCE20-1D4E-442D-91AA-D1DB4B26FA02.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/battosaii930/media/Mobile%20Uploads/090BCE20-1D4E-442D-91AA-D1DB4B26FA02.jpg.html)

then i ran two 20 gauge wires from where im keeping the Dakota box to the abs sensor and i soldered and heat shrinked the connections.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/B99110D1-7F57-4FF9-B0E7-C329BDC4A983.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/battosaii930/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B99110D1-7F57-4FF9-B0E7-C329BDC4A983.jpg.html)

the signal is AC (alternating current) so it does not matter how you hook up the polarity to the Dakota box

then i cut the plug off the speed sensor harness and ran the wires to the Dakota box for the output signal to the Cluster, what i found was that you only need 1 wire because the second wire does absolutely nothing with the Dakota box,
the wire thats needed is the Red/yellow stripe wire the other yellow wire is not needed i have mine wired in because i did not know that.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/AAFCE4C1-6866-4831-A215-536E277211E9.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/battosaii930/media/Mobile%20Uploads/AAFCE4C1-6866-4831-A215-536E277211E9.jpg.html)

here is my current configuration
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/Mobile%20Uploads/8E5CA9DC-7D16-42E0-97FA-B2264693AE29.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/battosaii930/media/Mobile%20Uploads/8E5CA9DC-7D16-42E0-97FA-B2264693AE29.jpg.html)

Red - Switched Power for the box
Blue - Ground for the box
Brown + Yellow - ABS signal input its AC so polarity is not an issue

i apologize for using the same brown color wire for the output but i was running low on wire so i had to use brown that i had left over

i get the speedo to work with out 1 and out 3, 3 seems to be closer to actual MPH but its off by 5mph at low speeds and gets worse the faster you go.

i will be messing with this for the next few days and hopefully i can have a full working speedo!

[battosaii930]

wont have any updates from me now, some jerk ran a stop sign and totalled my kouki i dont know what to do now not sure if i want another 240 anymore

[Rb26kouki]

Fuck sorry to hear that

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[ultimateirving]

wont have any updates from me now, some jerk ran a stop sign and totalled my kouki i dont know what to do now not sure if i want another 240 anymore

Damn man i cant believe that! sad to hear after all this.
thats why i hate driving cars, always that risk of someone wrecking it for you

[battosaii930]

yea it really sucks, im having a hard time finding a good s14 to buy, i need to wait for the adjuster to come and tell me my car is totalled and see how much he will give for the car. im also considering a Tubbed front end, the suspension seems un touched but the rad support is trashed but i dont know if its worth the trouble yet.

[battosaii930]

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/battosaii930/F8F4E34A-AA5A-46CE-8E4A-3CBD04B71975.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/battosaii930/media/F8F4E34A-AA5A-46CE-8E4A-3CBD04B71975.jpg.html)

[Rb26kouki]

Another kouki down :(

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[battosaii930]

well if the frame rails are straight i may do a tubbed front end but i havnt gotten a good look yet especially since i cant pop the hood i dont want to throw the chassis away especially since i love the color lol

[ultimateirving]

well if the frame rails are straight i may do a tubbed front end but i havnt gotten a good look yet especially since i cant pop the hood i dont want to throw the chassis away especially since i love the color lol

I'm an insurance agent so let me know if I can be of any assistance in getting your claim paid.

If it wasn't your fault then In your state the minimum property damage coverage is $10k. So you should have at least $10k to work with.

If they total it out make sure to ask what you can buy back the salvage for.

[battosaii930]

thanks ultimate, it would be great to get 10k but i highly doubt they will give me that much and yea it was not my fault i had no stop sign the other guy got a ticket for running the stop sign. ill keep in touch with you ill see how much they offer me next week.

[loucal]

Sh!t man worst news ever! Good luck with the claim. I hate people!

I am currently working on the dakota setup and can help to update the thread.

Dont give up on the 240!! see what you can do!

-Lou

[Banana_Cute]

damn. the reading was getting better until the ending. I too am in the thought of a z33 trans... GL OP.

[crewchief05]

anyone able to get a hold of George? i sent my stuff off to him and got the kit. Havent heard from him in a week. I've tried contacting him every way possible.

[BigKriss]

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Fix her bud, she is way too pretty to scrap..

[crewchief05]

George.....anyone?

[ultimateirving]

George.....anyone?

We got a local drift event going on this week so he might be busy coordinating that. HE also takes about 2-3 weeks to convert everything. If your having him mill the bell housing and shorten the shifter bracket

[crewchief05]

oh ok. thanks for that info. makes more sense. i appreciate your response.

[crewchief05]

Got a hold of George. He said my parts should be shipping out this week. I had a little change of plans during my last post. I got the setup for my 2J that will be going in my 240. More to come!

[xilovelsdx]

What exactly needs to be modified on the z33 bell housing to mate to the adapter?

[TheRealSy90]

It has to be milled down the thickness of the adapter plate. Should say on the maverick motorsports website.

[ultimateirving]

What exactly needs to be modified on the z33 bell housing to mate to the adapter?

What sly said, Its minimal
Really need to just make room for the adapter plate..
I did also have to notch the bellhousing to fit my SR megan o2 housing.
I have the HR trans and so the starter is on the driver side for that model which is why the trans had to be notched.
(DOESNT AFFECT the mounting points)

[nismostate]

Did you guys have to hammer the trans tunnel at all?
did you guys replace all the seals in the trans?

[ultimateirving]

Did you guys have to hammer the trans tunnel at all?
did you guys replace all the seals in the trans?

No hammer needed. It helps to keep the vibrations down. But I slid mine in oh so tightly. The second time I pulled the engine and reinstalled I massaged the trans tunnel with a hammer but it was just to clear a little space and reduce vibration.

I sent my trans to George for machining so what ever was take. Off when he removed the Bellhousing was resealed but I'm not sure what else. (08 hr trans 15k miles) mine was in pretty good shape though.

[TheRealSy90]

Are there any reliable options for the hr internal slave? I heard from a 370z owner then even on the Z's they go out all the damn time and leak everywhere...

[ultimateirving]

Are there any reliable options for the hr internal slave? I heard from a 370z owner then even on the Z's they go out all the damn time and leak everywhere...

I got a new one for free.. its still plastic but hell what can you say if it cost you nothing but sweat and new fluids.

on a side note, She is up and running strong. Short clip of her purring perfectly..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=451127048323833&l=5879176270833353508
This was 17psi..

Took her out today after tighting a loose bits, and boosted up to 20psi with no hiccups so im ready for the next track event.

[TheRealSy90]

Man pulling the trans off and on is still a pain in the ass if it becomes a regular occurance :/ especially because I prefer pulling the whole engine when I do trans/clutch related stuff.

[battosaii930]

still dealing with the insurance, they asked for receipts for all the stuff done to my car and i found alot of stuff from the past years but not everything, still i sent them a 77 page word document with $25,033.69 worth of receipts i found in my email lol

for sure im going to build my bottom end, new apexi head gasket and new timing chain and oil pump and anything else it needs but i want to ditch my GT2871r for a twin scroll GTX3076r and a full race manifold but i will have to see what my budget will be and how cheap i can find another kouki, i really like Zenki's but i had a kouki and thats what i want even if they are more money

[ultimateirving]

still dealing with the insurance, they asked for receipts for all the stuff done to my car and i found alot of stuff from the past years but not everything, still i sent them a 77 page word document with $25,033.69 worth of receipts i found in my email lol

for sure im going to build my bottom end, new apexi head gasket and new timing chain and oil pump and anything else it needs but i want to ditch my GT2871r for a twin scroll GTX3076r and a full race manifold but i will have to see what my budget will be and how cheap i can find another kouki, i really like Zenki's but i had a kouki and thats what i want even if they are more money

The receipts are perfect man. You just have to show what you paid and what it cost. If they try and reduce your numbers make sure you fight back with your own proof. Such as work estimates, and using the retail value of what parts cost in TODAYS MARKET could be higher.

We will get you the most for your damages and hopefully you'll be back on the road sooner than later.

[battosaii930]

finally got a number very low, the insurance only offered me $4400 plus i get to keep my smashed car its such BS im going to have a really hard time finding a good s14 for that price let alone getting my SR up and running again

i might sell the S class and use a small amount of the money to buy a good gas milage car and the rest to finish my 240 :(

[crewchief05]

Still waiting on my parts from george. Been waiting over a month.

[chipis]

hi, just read this thread some time ago and decided to try these adapter. so i contacted goerge, sent money to him about month ago, he promised to ship parts asap but till no no parts and no more replies from him. Very complicated company to deal with.

[crewchief05]

any one figure out how to get the reverse and neutral to work without the stock harness?

[loucal]

I'm still trying to configure the Dakota box. It has been a struggle. I plan on using the wiring from the sr sub harness to tie into the reverse sensor.

Lou

[battosaii930]

still fighting with insurance for money they dont want to give me enough to buy another clean title s14 i may have to sell some of my russian rifles obama just banned to finish my car just cause i can make good money off them

[battosaii930]

so yea only thing im getting out of this is $5300 this really sucksi need to see what assets i can get rid of to come up with another $10k to just finish this

[sil15yaz]

That sucks bro. I hope u will never give up bro. Btw did ur engine got d impact as well? I hope the chasis only got d damage at least you may transplant the engine + box to the new S chasis

[battosaii930]

yea the engine is fine but i need a new radiator/condensor/intercooler set up for the next car its going to be a while before im riding in a 240 again

[RTB.1054]

hi, just read this thread some time ago and decided to try these adapter. so i contacted goerge, sent money to him about month ago, he promised to ship parts asap but till no no parts and no more replies from him. Very complicated company to deal with.

Hey did you ever get the parts? I wanted to this swap

[TheRealSy90]

George has been pretty busy lately, i'm sure he isn't going to screw anybody over, i'm excited for the s13-z33 axle adapters he's currently making.

[Rb26kouki]

anyone else doing this conversion? concerned about dealing with those 2 companies. thinking of just waiting for the jwt kit to come out

vibrations are coming from the actual gear box it self or from it touching the transmission tunel ?

[fatduece]

seemed like people didnt have any issues with george. When did you hear about jwt? I havent seen anything

[Rb26kouki]

Ben at JWT mentioned it to me about it. Only thing about their conversion requires you to use their Flywheel. I believe you will have to source a Automatic SR20DET Transmission Bellhousing. And the conversion plate they will be using is between the transmission & Bell housin

[roninwon]

that sounds like even more time and money for a conversion thats already been perfected.

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Yea seriously...

[TheRealSy90]

Or you could have Speedtek Industries in Aus do the conversion for you. They use the Cut&Shut method, welding the sr20 bellhousing flange to the cd009 bellhousing. So no adapter plates or kits are used. Seems to be the most popular method over there. They will even source the transmissions for you if needed.

[ultimateirving]

Also for anyone using the transmission with internal slave cylinder I've gone through two oen units already in under 3k miles. Do not use an oem concentric slave with an aftermarket clutch. They aren't up to the task it seems

[TheRealSy90]

Did you go with the Z1 heavy duty internal slave this time? Or the external slave conversion kit?

[ultimateirving]

Still saving up to pull the whole engine again. Looking at the zspeed hdunit for sure

[JordanS]

Bump, need some advice guys.

Im running a Z33 adapter plate, very similar to George's (1/2" thickness). I'll be running the Mazworx shifter, Collins transmission mount and the bell housing will be machined 1/2".

Now my issue is this. I have a new OS Giken TS2BD Twin-Plate clutch to go on (and probably break my leg!) But the issue I have that i can't get my head around is what Fork/Release Bearing & Sleeve combo I need?! Its a CD009 trans, so no internal slave to worry about.

My understanding is that i'll be retaining the Z33 fork and clip but using a SR20 release bearing and sleeve? What size?

Because.. OSG state to use an 16mm release bearing on a standard S14 SR20 setup. But I've also read that I need a specific OSG releasing bearing and sleeve combo (http://www.frsport.com/OS-Giken-NS044-BC40K-TS2BD-Release-Bearing-Nissan-Silvia_p_232007.html)

Can anyone shed any light on my problem pleaseeeee :)

Here's the OSG instructions: http://www.osgiken.net/upload/d43.pdf (Clutch - TS2BD, S14 SR20 clutch)

[simon240sx]

I run the same tranny for my sr20det. I buy the dakota sgi-5c with the magnetic pick up sen-4165. I need to use te driving shaft and instal the sen-4165. But i need more information about the dakota setting. And i need information about the wiring with the dakota and s13 cluster. The cluster wait two speed signal. How wire the cluster with the dakota? Thanks!

[Drftr915]

Can anyone tell me how much they're paying to get their bellhousing machined? I'm having a tough time finding someone who could do it in Denver and I don't know what I should expect to pay? Looking to shave a 1/2 inch to fit my adapter plate.

[ShawnHalu]

Hi there everyone. I read up all is either S13/S14 Z33 conversion. Is there anyone with S15 Z33 conversion care to share some knowledge? Noise/Vibration/Fitting/which 1 pc prop shaft? btw i am with 4.11 ratio fd does it match up with z33 or i should go z32?

[brndck]

Can anyone tell me how much they're paying to get their bellhousing machined? I'm having a tough time finding someone who could do it in Denver and I don't know what I should expect to pay? Looking to shave a 1/2 inch to fit my adapter plate.
I paid $180 to have my first one done. second one I'll probably ship to maverick since they're cheaper. call around to your local machine shops. the shop I used had to pack clay onto the bellhousing to keep it from ringing while they machined it.

Hi there everyone. I read up all is either S13/S14 Z33 conversion. Is there anyone with S15 Z33 conversion care to share some knowledge? Noise/Vibration/Fitting/which 1 pc prop shaft? btw i am with 4.11 ratio fd does it match up with z33 or i should go z32?

switch to s13/14 flywheel and clutch, then everything else is the same (I don't know what driveshaft length you would use though)

4.11 Final Drive seems pretty short though. you'll hafta use a gear ratio calculator to see if it suits your need since I have no idea if your car is a street car or track only.

[TheRealSy90]

4.11 isn't enough of a difference from s13/s14 4.08 to matter. If you have a 6sp s15 it should have a 3.6 which is a good match for the z33 trans.


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[bardabe]

4.11 isn't enough of a difference from s13/s14 4.08 to matter. If you have a 6sp s15 it should have a 3.6 which is a good match for the z33 trans.


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i had a 3.53 with the CD0009 and it was bloody long, the 4.083 IMO is a much better final drive. kind of feels like a 4.6fd without the bloody tall cruise RPM's

[TheRealSy90]

I mean that's what is in the rear of a 350z so that's the ratio meant for the trans lol. But even in a 350z they definitely improve everywhere with a shorter ratio.


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[ShawnHalu]

4.11 isn't enough of a difference from s13/s14 4.08 to matter. If you have a 6sp s15 it should have a 3.6 which is a good match for the z33 trans.


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Hi, i am on S15 but i have already swap my trans to a S14 with the FD to 4.11.

[ultimateirving]

Here you go guys, using a 2008 z33 transmission, and I believe S13 factory gearing(counted the teeth when I put in the vlsd, but I don't remember the exact specs) I was driving about 76mph at 3500rpms.

[Dboyizmlg]

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[fatduece]

Here you go guys, using a 2008 z33 transmission, and I believe S13 factory gearing(counted the teeth when I put in the vlsd, but I don't remember the exact specs) I was driving about 76mph at 3500rpms.

How do you like the gearing? Do you feel like you have to shift too much?

[doodbuilt]

Adapter plates are no go with Z33 transmissions. I was going to go that route but after doing some measuring I found out even if you mill a whole bunch of the bellhousing you will only engage the splines half way with clutch disk. It will work, but you will end up twisting the splines off if you make any real power.
This was for KA24DE. I went with JWT kit instead to avoid those issues

[TheRealSy90]

The JWT kit is a very good option for KA people, especially since auto KA trans Bellhousings should be super easy to find.


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[splitfire]

Adapter plates are no go with Z33 transmissions. I was going to go that route but after doing some measuring I found out even if you mill a whole bunch of the bellhousing you will only engage the splines half way with clutch disk. It will work, but you will end up twisting the splines off if you make any real power.
This was for KA24DE. I went with JWT kit instead to avoid those issues

Why is it obligatory to use only JWT flywheel with this kit?

[TheRealSy90]

The flywheel for the JWT kit looks like it's built with some offset in it to push the clutch towards the trans a bit for full spline engagement.


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[splitfire]

The flywheel for the JWT kit looks like it's built with some offset in it to push the clutch towards the trans a bit for full spline engagement.



Thank you for clarification.