View Full Version : RHD to LHD conversion (yes)
cheekanuble
06-19-2013, 12:06 AM
Hi guys,
Before you say anything, I have used the search button and tried to find a thread that talked about RHD to LHD conversions.
I only found threads about people wanting to do the opposite...lol
SO! I live in Quebec, and here vehicles 25 years or more are allowed to be driven RHD ( I sent an email to the SAAQ, the people responsible for those laws, if you want I can keep you up to date ).
subsequently, I'm not allowed to import a sick ass silvia, or a mark 2 with a 1jz, or a fairlady twin turbo (jizz) or a 180sx.
It's got me contemplating buying a civic type R guys, I've reached rock bottom.
I wanted to know if those conversions were possible, if it was legal, if I could do it myself ( I'm doing my mechanics trade in september and will be looking to purchase the car around spring, I just need to save up some cash... and go to mexico before that... yeah it's cold up here, fuck yall)
Because, with shipping a car would cost me around 4-5k. Which is much more affordable than those bitch ass selling these ghetto ass, filthy 240sx with human slime in it.
HELP ME OUT. ( I thought about buying the 240sx and converting it... not interested in that, 240sx here cost too much, even scrapped)
KiwiZenki
06-19-2013, 12:12 AM
My car's LHD, 4-5k for shipping? Save yourself some money and pay me 8k to drive it up to you :D
cheekanuble
06-19-2013, 12:15 AM
NOOOO 4-5k is shipping and the car altogether, delivered to my front door.
KiwiZenki
06-19-2013, 12:21 AM
NOOOO 4-5k is shipping and the car altogether, delivered to my front door.
My SE is from Canada, not giving it back anyways :D Get LHD steering parts etc. and follow the opposite of the conversion write ups for LHD>RHD I'd think.
Check pricing in those threads.
cheekanuble
06-19-2013, 12:24 AM
Man I'm gonna need like, the whole dash, and center console. What worries me the most is if I have to make modifications or alterations to the firewall, I'll have to get it further inspected by like an engineer or some shit and after all that work I might not even be able to plate it... So I definately do not want to mess around with that stuff.
Hashiriya415
06-19-2013, 01:03 AM
How hard can it be to plate in holes on right side. Weld on a flat plate where steering wheel goes open new one on. Insert your steering wheel. Attach pedals.... What?? done.
cheekanuble
06-19-2013, 01:11 AM
Well, there are safety issues, my car'll need to be inspected by an engineer or some shit for one.
Also, I'll have to find s15 dashboards with lhd which is impossible if I'm to get a better model.
There's also the money factor, and the fact that I don't have the experience or the confidence to fuck with the core of my car, this firewall's the thing protecting me from death man..
I'll need, a new dashboard, center console, heating control( I think can be modded) then there's the pedals that have to be changed, the hood/trunk lever, the window, mirror controls. It's not as simple as it looks, it requires a lot more electrical and technical work than just fixing an engine or putting on an exhaust.
KiwiZenki
06-19-2013, 01:23 AM
Sounds like you're not up to the job. Not saying I would be myself but look at those threads, they must have information on the firewall too.
J3123MY
06-20-2013, 11:34 PM
buy the civic lol.
G5SR20240
06-21-2013, 12:11 AM
Pick a different hobby
TheRealSy90
06-21-2013, 01:05 AM
You don't sound like you really want to do it as bad as the first post says you do.
cheekanuble
06-21-2013, 04:49 AM
Well thank you guys for this helpful hindsight. Sounds like you guys had a bad day.
suspectu1
06-21-2013, 06:36 AM
i don't see why there's a post about a civic in a Nissan forum, but i'll help you out because we're both from Mtl.
First start by finding all the parts needed and THEN buy the car. Car comes in last.
step 1. Find a firewall from a LHD civic of the same year, drill out the spot welds (buy Eastwood's spot weld cutter) and take it out nicely.
step 2. find a power steering rack from a LHD civic
step 3. get the dash AND dash support bar from a LHD civic (the bar will help mount your pedals to the correct location)
step 4. you might also need full custom AN power steering lines (donno much about the civic type r, so you're on your own there)
step 5. get the car
put all the parts in the new car in the order above. make sure to remove the RHD firewall by drilling spot welds not fuckin angle grinding. Spot weld LHD firewall and your 50% there!
s14boy
06-21-2013, 06:44 AM
very simple... fire wall swap or you can do it the cheap and easier way by just cutting new holes in the fire wall for lhd or rhd(because im lost as what your trying to do) also no one above seemed like they are "having a bad day" they were just simply interpriting your posts because the first seemed like you really wanted to do this then you started noting costs and saying its going to be a very costly swap and hard to do. dont mess with a conversion if you dont have the resources to do it correctly. my advice from your posts would be to not to do it and get a nice running car.
-Mike
Bmxer300zx
06-21-2013, 06:52 AM
I don't understand why your car needs to 25yrs or older? Theres a ton of rhd cars up there all aircared and owned with paper work. Actually this year from what I've seen is the first to be able to import the first year r34's wich can be had for 10-15k up there.
Are the laws differnt from the Quebec side to Vancouver side? Look at the craigslist in Vancouver, there's tons of imports over there from skyline ( r32 can be had for 5k) and tons other all RHD
cheekanuble
06-21-2013, 10:18 AM
Yes the laws are different in QC. We are the only province to have a 25 year + rule for RHD import car, the rest of Canada is 15 years +. I have sent a message to the SAAQ and they told me the rhd to lhd conversion is legal and can be accepted but it might require an inspection paper from an engineer because it'll be inspected as a modified car. I think the ideas above (complete firewall swap instead of drilling and welding the existing rhd one) actually spare you from doing that because the firewall remains untouched.
Also I asked them about the 25 year rule and yes, any car 25 years old and over that is RHD can be driven as a daily driven car in Quebec. That is all confirmed information.
As for the car now, Im not gonna get a civic. I was making a joke.
I calculated the costs of having a silvia imported to here and it was about 4000$ + the price of the car at the auction, which isn't so bad.
I have found an alternative though. I will buy me a cheap daily driver for the moment, buy me a wrecked 240sx from a scrap yard in USA that is only superficially damaged with its frame and main components rust and damage free.
I will store it in my garage and work on it here and there, fitting a sr20 in it with proper modifications.
That project is much more affordable and interesting as I can use the car as a project and kind of a homework to do while I finish up my school
cheekanuble
06-21-2013, 10:23 AM
i don't see why there's a post about a civic in a Nissan forum, but i'll help you out because we're both from Mtl.
First start by finding all the parts needed and THEN buy the car. Car comes in last.
step 1. Find a firewall from a LHD civic of the same year, drill out the spot welds (buy Eastwood's spot weld cutter) and take it out nicely.
step 2. find a power steering rack from a LHD civic
step 3. get the dash AND dash support bar from a LHD civic (the bar will help mount your pedals to the correct location)
step 4. you might also need full custom AN power steering lines (donno much about the civic type r, so you're on your own there)
step 5. get the car
put all the parts in the new car in the order above. make sure to remove the RHD firewall by drilling spot welds not fuckin angle grinding. Spot weld LHD firewall and your 50% there!
thanks for actually giving good advice!
driftinCleen
06-29-2013, 07:14 PM
friend of mine just did a RHD swap. if your up for all that work or you have money for all that work then go for it. but i would never in my life, after seeing what he went through, convert a car LHD or RHD. too much hassle. my advice would be to buy a LHD shell and swap everything over to it, then sell the RHD shell to someone for lots o money. u come out on top and happy
cheekanuble
07-02-2013, 08:43 AM
Yes ! that's what I was thinking about doing. Although options are quite limited especially in this province as for lhd shells that are available, it still is a quite interesting project.
I've thought about finding a decent civic HB EG shell and having a Type R hb shipped over here from japan.
The small size of the car means the shipping cost will be lower, most parts are easily swappable and there's plenty of them. As well as getting a good little car.
Option number 2 would be finding a decent, rust free 240sx shell over here which is a kind of a needle in a haystack thing, I'd have to be really lucky to find one with minimum rust and a decent frame on it.
Then, have a s13-s14 shipped (with an SR in it, that's a must) and swap everything. This option is a bit more pricy and requires a bit more luck but it's feasible if I find the right shell indeed.
These are all projects that can be done for under 10k and are very interesting to spend time on as soon as the engine and body swap is done, the fun part really begins!
LHD to RHD swap can also be done here and I have heard that some garages won't even mention it has been done at the inspection.
The thing I am concerned is that since I don't know anything about welding and I have someone else weld some stuff in the firewall and it gives up on me on the highway at 120 I MIGHT be regretting making the swap. I'm a bit of a pussy on that matter.
Safety first kids
JerseyBoi95
07-04-2013, 02:32 PM
If you're importing a RHD car and then considering converting it to LHD why even bother? We know you can't find LHD bodies in your province, but have you ever considered importing a LHD 240sx from America? They're a dime a dozen down here. By the time you were import a RHD car, convert it to LHD, you're already spent a lot more for just the shipping costs as if you were to get a cheaper 240sx here. Shipping across the U.S. border is far cheaper than shipping across the Pacific. Also much cheaper to get an SR swap into that car. No expensive shipping, and no complicated firewall conversion.
cheekanuble
07-04-2013, 03:09 PM
Where from though? And shipping from for example alabama is close to 3000 btw, so its pretty comparable.. If you know a company that ships to quebec for cheap let me know!
Corbic
07-04-2013, 04:28 PM
Just move.
jr_ss
07-04-2013, 05:22 PM
So basically you want to import an RHD car that isn't legal to drive, convert it to LHD so you can "appear" to be abiding the providence laws of driving a LHD car? Yeah, they won't figure that one out...
Stupid thread is stupid.
cheekanuble
07-04-2013, 08:29 PM
I'm just astonished by your helpfulness.
jr_ss
07-04-2013, 09:32 PM
And we all are amused by your idiocy... You're asking questions to a conversion you don't have the tools, skills or intelligence to pull off.
Best of luck to you and a waste of money...
Corbic
07-04-2013, 09:36 PM
I'm just astonished by your helpfulness.
Want a LHD 300zx, RX7, S13/14, GS300, or Supra....
Buy one. Import it from the US if you have to.
Generally it's only the engine options that separate the USDM and the JDM stuff. When you start talking about GTRs and FTOs, well your shit out of luck as LHD parts don't exist.
SimonW
07-04-2013, 09:37 PM
i don't see why there's a post about a civic in a Nissan forum, but i'll help you out because we're both from Mtl.
First start by finding all the parts needed and THEN buy the car. Car comes in last.
step 1. Find a firewall from a LHD civic of the same year, drill out the spot welds (buy Eastwood's spot weld cutter) and take it out nicely.
step 2. find a power steering rack from a LHD civic
step 3. get the dash AND dash support bar from a LHD civic (the bar will help mount your pedals to the correct location)
step 4. you might also need full custom AN power steering lines (donno much about the civic type r, so you're on your own there)
step 5. get the car
put all the parts in the new car in the order above. make sure to remove the RHD firewall by drilling spot welds not fuckin angle grinding. Spot weld LHD firewall and your 50% there!
Hi dude, why do you say a Honda of the same year?
Corbic
07-04-2013, 09:38 PM
Man I'm gonna need like, the whole dash, and center console. What worries me the most is if I have to make modifications or alterations to the firewall, I'll have to get it further inspected by like an engineer or some shit and after all that work I might not even be able to plate it... So I definately do not want to mess around with that stuff.
Troll post.
SimonW
07-04-2013, 10:19 PM
Hi guys,
Before you say anything, I have used the search button and tried to find a thread that talked about RHD to LHD conversions.
I only found threads about people wanting to do the opposite...lol
SO! I live in Quebec, and here vehicles 25 years or more are allowed to be driven RHD ( I sent an email to the SAAQ, the people responsible for those laws, if you want I can keep you up to date ).
subsequently, I'm not allowed to import a sick ass silvia, or a mark 2 with a 1jz, or a fairlady twin turbo (jizz) or a 180sx.
It's got me contemplating buying a civic type R guys, I've reached rock bottom.
I wanted to know if those conversions were possible, if it was legal, if I could do it myself ( I'm doing my mechanics trade in september and will be looking to purchase the car around spring, I just need to save up some cash... and go to mexico before that... yeah it's cold up here, fuck yall)
Because, with shipping a car would cost me around 4-5k. Which is much more affordable than those bitch ass selling these ghetto ass, filthy 240sx with human slime in it.
HELP ME OUT. ( I thought about buying the 240sx and converting it... not interested in that, 240sx here cost too much, even scrapped)
I know this might seem weird as fuck, but I'm considering (r&d stage) doing the same thing and I was wondering if you could forward me that email possibly that you received from the SAAQ or at least their email so that I can do the same. Thanks!
cheekanuble
07-04-2013, 10:37 PM
I know this might seem weird as fuck, but I'm considering (r&d stage) doing the same thing and I was wondering if you could forward me that email possibly that you received from the SAAQ or at least their email so that I can do the same. Thanks!
Hi Simon! Absolutely ! I hope you speak french ;)
http://i.imgur.com/6on5Tc7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EPH5kw7.png
Also, you might want to know, an engineer's report like he states can be in the thousands and upwards. Greedy *SNIP*.
And we all are amused by your idiocy... You're asking questions to a conversion you don't have the tools, skills or intelligence to pull off.
Best of luck to you and a waste of money...
It makes me sad to see people like you trying to bring everybody down around them because they couldn't do what they see other people do. Look, I'm sorry if you couldn't achieve whatever it is you wanted to achieve. I can clearly see that this upsets you to the point where you go out of your way, into people's threads to spread your negative bullshit around. I understand that, it's okay, but you might want to consider having a bowl of shut the fuck up next time. Kill yourself
SimonW
07-04-2013, 10:58 PM
Cheers Man! Do they ever give you contact information for one of these engineers that they force us to use? Or do you know what they specifically want to inspect?
jr_ss
07-04-2013, 11:08 PM
Blah, blah, blah, I'm a moron.
Im sorry if youre butt hurt because I call things like I see them. Reality check buddy, you said yourself you're going to "mechanic" school. Which tells me you do not have the skill set to pull off the swap. It's not negativity, it's called being a realist.
KiLLeR2001
07-04-2013, 11:17 PM
It makes me sad to see people like you trying to bring everybody down around them because they couldn't do what they see other people do. Look, I'm sorry if you couldn't achieve whatever it is you wanted to achieve. I can clearly see that this upsets you to the point where you go out of your way, into people's threads to spread your negative bullshit around. I understand that, it's okay, but you might want to consider having a bowl of shut the fuck up next time. Kill yourself
It's going to be funny when you stumble upon his build thread. LOL!
Take your retarded ideas over to the Honda forums please. Thanks.
cheekanuble
07-04-2013, 11:38 PM
Im sorry if youre butt hurt because I call things like I see them. Reality check buddy, you said yourself you're going to "mechanic" school. Which tells me you do not have the skill set to pull off the swap. It's not negativity, it's called being a realist.
A dumbass is someone that believes everything he sees without questionning it first. A dumbass makes assumptions based on feelings and intuitions, not on facts. A dumbass doesn't ask or think before he talks, because his primitive emotions are so overwhelming, he has to react. Therefore the dumbass (you) is just an emotional little girl stuck in a grown man's body. A realist bases himself on reality, and the reality is, you don't know what the fuck or who the fuck, as a matter of fact, you're talking to - I'm a realist.
I have all the material and skills necessary, but if you would know, Captain McFuckingSmartass, welding a front clip's firewall with the full front to another vehicle's frame can't be done in any DIY workshop. It needs to be cut precisely, aligned and it needs to be welded and welded PROFESSIONALLY if the car is to be driven everyday. But I'm sure you already knew all that. Unless Junior here would like to drive on the highway one day and have his real car bend in real half, and have his real car spin out and have a real crash. (Which would be great for the humanity and planet earth but I don't wish that any of these things happen to you.)
Now, if you have that experience, if you have those skills (something that I highly doubt based on your basic reasoning and homosapien-like logic #realistcrew) please, by any means, tell me what I need to do. I will listen to you and value your time and knowledge. But if you don't have anything constructive and valuable to say other than your biased, bitch-made and useless opinion which as no other purpose but to shoot down one of my dream projects, I'd advise you show yourself out, buddy.
cheekanuble
07-04-2013, 11:40 PM
Cheers Man! Do they ever give you contact information for one of these engineers that they force us to use? Or do you know what they specifically want to inspect?
No, you have to hire one yourself but I'm sure if you contact them they can provide a list of engineers. I wouldn't though, because if it is privatized and it's associated with the government, it's probably gonna be twice as expensive as they should be.
I'd say first of all they would inspect your car as a modified car, and it would be classified as a VGA vehicle from the get go.
If you're planning on welding a whole front clip in :
Also, they would run extensive testing on the rigidity and alignment of the frame and quality of welding of the parts added to the firewall (Hole for the pedals, pedals, power steering rack etc etc).
If you just wanna do the conversion :
This welding job can't be done by your average joe, you don't want your pedals to give in when your driving or racing around.
But I'd put on quality of the assembly + the additional inspection that goes for a VGA/Modified vehicle. Firewall strenght and integrity, power steering and pedals quality of welds etc etc. Basicly everything you've touched or might have ''compromised''
I have heard by someone in the import game that some garages that do the inspect won't even mention the RHD (which I don't know if I would be able to sleep at night with) to the SAAQ or the prior RHD history of your car.
Now if you're planning to do a conversion, I wouldn't take the firewall out and weld another one in. Id simply try to find a LHD interior and power steering column and I'd try to convert my rhd.
cheekanuble
07-04-2013, 11:43 PM
It's going to be funny when you stumble upon his build thread. LOL!
Take your retarded ideas over to the Honda forums please. Thanks.
LOL hahahaa
shut the fuck up.
SimonW
07-05-2013, 12:14 AM
No, you have to hire one yourself but I'm sure if you contact them they can provide a list of engineers. I wouldn't though, because if it is privatized and it's associated with the government, it's probably gonna be twice as expensive as they should be.
I'd say first of all they would inspect your car as a modified car, and it would be classified as a VGA vehicle from the get go.
If you're planning on welding a whole front clip in :
Also, they would run extensive testing on the rigidity and alignment of the frame and quality of welding of the parts added to the firewall (Hole for the pedals, pedals, power steering rack etc etc).
If you just wanna do the conversion :
This welding job can't be done by your average joe, you don't want your pedals to give in when your driving or racing around.
But I'd put on quality of the assembly + the additional inspection that goes for a VGA/Modified vehicle. Firewall strenght and integrity, power steering and pedals quality of welds etc etc. Basicly everything you've touched or might have ''compromised''
I have heard by someone in the import game that some garages that do the inspect won't even mention the RHD (which I don't know if I would be able to sleep at night with) to the SAAQ or the prior RHD history of your car.
Now if you're planning to do a conversion, I wouldn't take the firewall out and weld another one in. Id simply try to find a LHD interior and power steering column and I'd try to convert my rhd.
My plan if I were to do this would be to obviously to get all the proper parts (still trying to figure that part out) that I'm certain will fit. Get the car. Go through the long ass process of flipping all the shit around. Test in on the track or any quiet ass road till I'm conformable with the quality of the conversion. And finally get it checked over by whatever is most likely to make my car legal and keeping my wallet in mind.
Why wouldn't you be able to sleep at night if they don't mention the RHD history of your car?
cheekanuble
07-05-2013, 06:42 AM
My plan if I were to do this would be to obviously to get all the proper parts (still trying to figure that part out) that I'm certain will fit. Get the car. Go through the long ass process of flipping all the shit around. Test in on the track or any quiet ass road till I'm conformable with the quality of the conversion. And finally get it checked over by whatever is most likely to make my car legal and keeping my wallet in mind.
Why wouldn't you be able to sleep at night if they don't mention the RHD history of your car?
I don't know... police issues mostly?? And driving around knowing I'm hiding something. I'm just a very anxious person hahaha
jr_ss
07-05-2013, 10:21 AM
Blah, Blah, Blah...
Any person with the knowledge, skill set and tools can do this at home, which would make it DIY. No one with the ability to do what you want comes to a forum to ask for random persons input on how one could do this swap. Therefore, based on your silly ass question, you do not have the skills or tools to pull it off. However, you're either to deft or stupid to figure out that this little dream project is illegal for anything but track use. Perhaps you should define illegal for yourself before you piss away money on this silly project to break the law, see jail time, lose more funds for any governmental repercussions and surely have your car crushed or yarded for it's life. By the way, above is based on factual information and is not the opinion of one or more persons.
With the above said, if you'd still like to continue with your idiotic attempt at "fooling" the law, we can start with the basics. The car needs to be leveled and secured. Now, I'm sure you don't have a frame machine(a body shops best tool) at home nor do most, but jack stands will be your friend.
Once the car is secured, measured, and absolutely level, start by removing everything forward of the B pillars. This includes the glass, all harnesses, brake, clutch, fuel, steering rack and interior pieces and anything else running from the middle of the car forward. Leave the cross member in for rigidity. B pillars you say? Those would be in the middle portion of the car, where the doors latch.
Once everything has been pulled out.There are multiple ways to pull it off. You can hack it together like most would, or you can do it right, by remove all the spot welds that hold it together. There are probably a few hundred to drill out, you'll have to find and mark all the ones needed. I suggest getting a spot weld cutter, fancy tool that makes a nice clean cut.
Once/If you get to this point, it's basically reverse. You'll obviously need a donor front clip so you can do the same exact thing to remove the firewall/bulk head. When you get it out, clean it up, make sure you use weld through primer, on all areas that will get welded back in.
Well, you should be able to figure out the rest with the knowledge and skill set you have. No sense in holding your hand anymore. Oh, the FSM has all the dimensions you'll ever need.
In the end, I understand this is a "dream" project. I know it's "your" money and this is what you want to do, but it's dumb regardless. Breaking the law isn't condoned anywhere, unless absolutely necessary. If you think you're going to casually fly under the radar with a converted car of that severity, good luck.
A stated earlier in this silly thread, a LHD car is no different in terms of motor/transmission and ECU setups. Easiest option for you is to register your car with a friend of relative in another providence to get you JDM tyte RHD.
cheekanuble
07-05-2013, 10:33 AM
Any person with the knowledge, skill set and tools can do this at home, which would make it DIY. No one with the ability to do what you want comes to a forum to ask for random persons input on how one could do this swap. Therefore, based on your silly ass question, you do not have the skills or tools to pull it off. However, you're either to deft or stupid to figure out that this little dream project is illegal for anything but track use. Perhaps you should define illegal for yourself before you piss away money on this silly project to break the law, see jail time, lose more funds for any governmental repercussions and surely have your car crushed or yarded for it's life. By the way, above is based on factual information and is not the opinion of one or more persons.
With the above said, if you'd still like to continue with your idiotic attempt at "fooling" the law, we can start with the basics. The car needs to be leveled and secured. Now, I'm sure you don't have a frame machine(a body shops best tool) at home nor do most, but jack stands will be your friend.
Once the car is secured, measured, and absolutely level, start by removing everything forward of the B pillars. This includes the glass, all harnesses, brake, clutch, fuel, steering rack and interior pieces and anything else running from the middle of the car forward. Leave the cross member in for rigidity. B pillars you say? Those would be in the middle portion of the car, where the doors latch.
Once everything has been pulled out.There are multiple ways to pull it off. You can hack it together like most would, or you can do it right, by remove all the spot welds that hold it together. There are probably a few hundred to drill out, you'll have to find and mark all the ones needed. I suggest getting a spot weld cutter, fancy tool that makes a nice clean cut.
Once/If you get to this point, it's basically reverse. You'll obviously need a donor front clip so you can do the same exact thing to remove the firewall/bulk head. When you get it out, clean it up, make sure you use weld through primer, on all areas that will get welded back in.
Well, you should be able to figure out the rest with the knowledge and skill set you have. No sense in holding your hand anymore. Oh, the FSM has all the dimensions you'll ever need.
In the end, I understand this is a "dream" project. I know it's "your" money and this is what you want to do, but it's dumb regardless. Breaking the law isn't condoned anywhere, unless absolutely necessary. If you think you're going to casually fly under the radar with a converted car of that severity, good luck.
A stated earlier in this silly thread, a LHD car is no different in terms of motor/transmission and ECU setups. Easiest option for you is to register your car with a friend of relative in another providence to get you JDM tyte RHD.
Well that wasn't hard was it? Thank you for your input. But if you would've read through the thread, you would know that I was settling for getting a lhd 240sx and simply putting an sr20 in it.
Corbic
07-05-2013, 10:36 AM
Well that wasn't hard was it? Thank you for your input.
Or you could have searched duumbass.
Q45dippin
07-05-2013, 11:00 AM
Trade right hand drive for left hand drive .baam done deal.
SimonW
07-05-2013, 12:13 PM
Any person with the knowledge, skill set and tools can do this at home, which would make it DIY. No one with the ability to do what you want comes to a forum to ask for random persons input on how one could do this swap. Therefore, based on your silly ass question, you do not have the skills or tools to pull it off. However, you're either to deft or stupid to figure out that this little dream project is illegal for anything but track use. Perhaps you should define illegal for yourself before you piss away money on this silly project to break the law, see jail time, lose more funds for any governmental repercussions and surely have your car crushed or yarded for it's life. By the way, above is based on factual information and is not the opinion of one or more persons.
With the above said, if you'd still like to continue with your idiotic attempt at "fooling" the law, we can start with the basics. The car needs to be leveled and secured. Now, I'm sure you don't have a frame machine(a body shops best tool) at home nor do most, but jack stands will be your friend.
Once the car is secured, measured, and absolutely level, start by removing everything forward of the B pillars. This includes the glass, all harnesses, brake, clutch, fuel, steering rack and interior pieces and anything else running from the middle of the car forward. Leave the cross member in for rigidity. B pillars you say? Those would be in the middle portion of the car, where the doors latch.
Once everything has been pulled out.There are multiple ways to pull it off. You can hack it together like most would, or you can do it right, by remove all the spot welds that hold it together. There are probably a few hundred to drill out, you'll have to find and mark all the ones needed. I suggest getting a spot weld cutter, fancy tool that makes a nice clean cut.
Once/If you get to this point, it's basically reverse. You'll obviously need a donor front clip so you can do the same exact thing to remove the firewall/bulk head. When you get it out, clean it up, make sure you use weld through primer, on all areas that will get welded back in.
Well, you should be able to figure out the rest with the knowledge and skill set you have. No sense in holding your hand anymore. Oh, the FSM has all the dimensions you'll ever need.
In the end, I understand this is a "dream" project. I know it's "your" money and this is what you want to do, but it's dumb regardless. Breaking the law isn't condoned anywhere, unless absolutely necessary. If you think you're going to casually fly under the radar with a converted car of that severity, good luck.
A stated earlier in this silly thread, a LHD car is no different in terms of motor/transmission and ECU setups. Easiest option for you is to register your car with a friend of relative in another providence to get you JDM tyte RHD.
You seem to know what your talking about so I have a couple of questions for you: I'm considering doing the conversion as kind of a last resort to make an s15 legal, I don't doubt that if the conversion is done 100% properly and 100% legal that I still wouldn't get harassed afterwards, but If I were to register it in Ontario for example, where I have family, wouldn't I be targeted pretty much every time a cop saw me with said car in Quebec? From what I've heard, registering my car elsewhere hasn't been an effective loophole in the system.
I'm not challenging you in any way, I'm genuinely curious to find a way to achieve my dream of owning an S15 and actually being able to use it.
jr_ss
07-05-2013, 02:41 PM
If I were to register it in Ontario for example, where I have family, wouldn't I be targeted pretty much every time a cop saw me with said car in Quebec? From what I've heard, registering my car elsewhere hasn't been an effective loophole in the system.
Hearsay is just that... I cannot speak for Canadian or individual providence laws as, I do not know them. However, I highly doubt you would be "targeted" unless you are drawing unnecessary attention to yourself. Even if you did happen to get pulled over, showing proof of insurance, valid registration and tags, what are they going to nab you for? Having your car registered with another family members name on the slip isn't going to warrant an arrest.
Now, I'm not saying you should do that. In the event you should get in to a horrible drifting accident, killing a family or injuring someone, everyone on that slip is eligible to be "gone" after for retribution. Keep that in mind.
ryandriftingfat
07-05-2013, 04:31 PM
Can you just buy a LHD car, then take a RHD car and move all the parts over?
If you're taking this on, I highly suggest you spend time POURING over images and other peoples' builds. You should be intimately familiar with what goes where and how/why things are engineered (both RHD and LHD), especially both sides of the firewall.
Once you do that you can build your parts list in your head and develop a plan.
At this point though, I think your problems are not going to be so much technical or mechanical, but political.
S14DB
07-06-2013, 10:08 PM
From what I can understand from the ramblings in this thread you are looking for methods to bypass laws. We don't allow these types of discussions so, this will now be closed.
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