View Full Version : Titainium head shield for a t28?
joe3180
05-29-2013, 07:03 PM
Im trying to find a titanium heat shield for a t28 and the only thing I am coming up with is those dei titanium blankets. Does anyone know of someplace that makes them? Maybe no one does...any help would be great. Thanks.
dawagarage
05-29-2013, 08:23 PM
sounds like a waste of money to me.
try aluminum or steel.
make it yourself for the cheapest option
Hoffman5982
05-29-2013, 10:34 PM
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll ask here. Does anyone know what paint can be used on the stock heat shield? I've tried that supposed flame proof and it starts flaking off after the first drive.
KendallH
05-29-2013, 10:53 PM
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll ask here. Does anyone know what paint can be used on the stock heat shield? I've tried that supposed flame proof and it starts flaking off after the first drive.
I used Duplicolor engine enamel. Didn't even prep it that well and it held up great. Started discoloring after a while though.
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll ask here. Does anyone know what paint can be used on the stock heat shield? I've tried that supposed flame proof and it starts flaking off after the first drive.
if its flaking off it has failed to attach. have you done any prep work? degreasing/cleaning with solvents , and scuff it with sand paper or better, media blast it...
BoostinIX
05-30-2013, 05:49 AM
Some sanding and self-etching primer should do the trick.
ixfxi
05-30-2013, 08:23 AM
Im trying to find a titanium heat shield for a t28 and the only thing I am coming up with is those dei titanium blankets. Does anyone know of someplace that makes them? Maybe no one does...any help would be great. Thanks.
I dont think that is going to be easy to find..
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll ask here. Does anyone know what paint can be used on the stock heat shield? I've tried that supposed flame proof and it starts flaking off after the first drive.
Paint wont work. You're going to need something better.
You guys are aware that turbo chargers radiate heat, right? :P
vehicle336
05-30-2013, 11:09 AM
What's wrong with the DEI turbo blanket? It does what it needs to with less latent heat radiated throughout the engine bay. They're still fairly cheap too.
joe3180
05-30-2013, 11:46 AM
Id just rather not have the heat trapped and allow it to breathe a bit more. Maybe I am just being paranoid.
The titanium would stay much cooler than the ss/alum. I don't mind to spend a bit more for something I want rather than settling for whatever I can easily find.
If no one makes it I may have to have one made. That or think of another idea.
ghoti
05-30-2013, 11:53 AM
Paint wont work. You're going to need something better.
You guys are aware that turbo chargers radiate heat, right? :P
Don't think most people here are willing to shell out money for ceramic coating
that being said, what's wrong with a bare metal heat shield
Melonburst
05-30-2013, 12:02 PM
Get oem Metal Heatshield and wrap it in thermal gold foil.
Youre done.
BoostinIX
05-30-2013, 12:45 PM
Grimmspeed was pretty reasonable on their turbo ceramic coating.
!Zar!
05-30-2013, 01:41 PM
Id just rather not have the heat trapped and allow it to breathe a bit more. Maybe I am just being paranoid.
The titanium would stay much cooler than the ss/alum. I don't mind to spend a bit more for something I want rather than settling for whatever I can easily find.
If no one makes it I may have to have one made. That or think of another idea.
The whole idea of the turbo blanket is to purposely keep heat inside the turbo.
nickauger
05-30-2013, 04:42 PM
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll ask here. Does anyone know what paint can be used on the stock heat shield? I've tried that supposed flame proof and it starts flaking off after the first drive.
What I use is Caterpillar Muffler paint !
97nismo
05-30-2013, 04:53 PM
I never quite understood the titanium fascination while its very light as an exhaust stainless steel is much better for high heat applications. After taking many material classes i realized that no professor could explain to me why titanium is useful on a car other than saving weight. And using titanium as a heat shield just seems silly. Aluminum or stainless would work just fine if no better tons cheaper
Tank_4g63
05-30-2013, 05:36 PM
I dont think that is going to be easy to find..
Paint wont work. You're going to need something better.
You guys are aware that turbo chargers radiate heat, right? :P
I sprayed my stock manifold heatshield, and custom made o2housing/turbine housing heat shield on my 16g with vht flameproof... Held up fine. Didn't even clean them all that well.
Hoffman5982
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
if its flaking off it has failed to attach. have you done any prep work? degreasing/cleaning with solvents , and scuff it with sand paper or better, media blast it...
I've come to the conclusion that this is my problem. I've cleaned it really well and sprayed it with the paint prep stuff, but haven't scuffed it. I'll do that tomorrow.
You guys are aware that turbo chargers radiate heat, right? :P
Now ur usin them fancy words but Im not quite sure I can trust ur city boy opinion
that being said, what's wrong with a bare metal heat shield
Both of mine have developed some rust/ discoloration. I had my first one sand blasted but it left some spots where it looked like the media etched it, although I may have been using something too rough.
moowee240
05-30-2013, 09:20 PM
Ti was developed for structural purposes, strenth vs weight....not for tempurature..its no better than ss or aluminum in the tempurature department.. its way expensive and would be a waste of money...letting your turbo breath makes no sense..you don't want the heat escaping off the turob into your engine bay area heat soaking everything else such as your IC piping and MC. Get a blanket and keep the heat in the exhaust and out the muffler..
ixfxi
05-31-2013, 09:46 AM
Now ur usin them fancy words but Im not quite sure I can trust ur city boy opinion
hey man... is that valve cover on your car wood graaaaaaaaaaain? i like that. :P
Ti was developed for structural purposes, strenth vs weight....not for tempurature..its no better than ss or aluminum in the tempurature department.. its way expensive and would be a waste of money...letting your turbo breath makes no sense..you don't want the heat escaping off the turob into your engine bay area heat soaking everything else such as your IC piping and MC. Get a blanket and keep the heat in the exhaust and out the muffler..
well titanium is a metal, and like all metals.. it can melt. but from what heard in the past, they reflect heat quite well.
You can look at what they did with the mclaren f1, for example. They used gold liners to reflect the heat. however, i find that excessive and think any highly polished surface will do the same. Nice thing about gold in that situation is that it does not tarnish etc...
blueshark123
05-31-2013, 10:42 AM
If you need to paint any thing high in heat I will recommend por-20 its made by por -15. It works great if applied correctly. A bit expensive but well worth it.
Tank_4g63
05-31-2013, 10:49 AM
VHT Flameproof will work on a t-25 heatshield on a dsm, considering you can easily upgrade that to a t-28, and it works well on a 16g which is a similar sized, similar cfm range turbo, with similar heat characteristics, it should work on a properly prepped heat shield for a sr turbo...
Now if your trying to paint the inside of the shield, I dont see it working well, but it worked fine on both my upper and lower heatshields on my DSM. 20k+ miles on my 16g before upgrading to a holset, and another 7-8k on that turbo setup with it ziptied (stainless zip ties for header wrap) to my manifold I used on my holset setup. Then I made one out of stainless and had it ceramic coated. That works even better.
However, a turbo blanket is next on my agenda so I can hit my lower heat shield ( rather ugly looking custom made shield ).
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