whats the diff?

[S13 Passion]

and no, i dont think its because black tops have VVT. there are sr20det black tops too.

[DSC]

I may be wrong on this, but there was a red top and black top s13 sr20det that were exactly the same, just the newer s13's came with the black one right? I figure you were talkin about s13's not all black top (s14-15)?

[BlankFlip]

i think u need to clarify on the "there are sr20det black tops too." yes there r, but why point that out? all the black top, red top, whatever engines that r from the silvias/180's r all sr's, except when a ca is in its place.

(Edited by BlankFlip at 7:33 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[S14Grl]

It's the Variable Valve Timing as well as 10 more horses, I believe. S13s came with red-tops unless they were polished and painted otherwise.

[DSC]

<a href="http://www.boostdynamics.com/engines.html" target='_blank'>http://www.boostdynamics.com/engines.html</a> naw, looks like the s13's had blacktop too. And I don't think all s14's had vvt...may be wrong on that tho.

(Edited by DSC at 5:37 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[BlankFlip]

all the s14 sr20det's have vvt n so do the s15 sr20det's IIRC. i'm not sure w/ the black top sr's for s13's cuz i usually just think of them from being in 95-up models. black top n red top sr's should have like the same power output though (black top might just be newer...maybe), don't know much else on it off the top of my head.

[S13 Passion]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from BlankFlip on 5:33 pm on Dec. 6, 2001
i think u need to clarify on the &quot;there are sr20det black tops too.&quot; yes there r, but why point that out? all the black top, red top, whatever engines that r from the silvias/180's r all sr's, except when a ca is in its place.

(Edited by BlankFlip at 7:33 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)
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i meant that by impying the &quot;det&quot; part.... some people think only the black top is a sr20vet...... get it?

[Sway500]

not all S14's had VVt until 95.5 early S14's had the black top S13 sr. &nbsp;All &nbsp;180's had S13 black top or read top sr engines.

[crazycuban]

91-93 S13 Silvia and RPS13 180SX - S13 red top 205hp
94-01? RPS13 180SX - S13 black top 205hp
94-98 S14 Silvia - S14 black top VVT 220hp
99-01 S15 Silvia - S15 black top VVT 250 hp

there is no &quot;sr20vet&quot;, with or without VVT they're called sr20det's...correct me if I'm wrong, but an sr20vet would have lift as well as variable timing...

(Edited by crazycuban at 5:59 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[nguyen]

94 180sx have black valve cover. the only difference is the black valve cover has a T28 instead of a T25 and a 215 HP rating instead of 205 HP. black cover with vvtc has 220hp, s15 has 250hp

[S13 Passion]

finally, thank you.... so its about the turbo sizing then...

[HippoSleek]

Actually, there is an sr20vet, but it is an oddball that is only FWD configuration. &nbsp;Maybe in the Pulsar? &nbsp;Anyway, it does exist and you are right about the variable lift on it. &nbsp;Otherwise, I think we have reached fact <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Zemus]

Have u guys heard of the SR21DET. the rare ass Silvia Engine with 2.1 litters, i here if i can even find out their around 10 gs

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Oni on 7:44 am on Dec. 7, 2001
Have u guys heard of the SR21DET. the rare ass Silvia Engine with 2.1 litters, i here if i can even find out their around 10 gs</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's a Tomei racing motor that they punched out, IIRC, and not a factory item. &nbsp;It is $10K w/ core charge and comes with out of the box performance. &nbsp;The guy (whose name I am forgetting) with the grey s14 on the cover of Stupid Street over the summer had one. &nbsp;dammit what's his name?!? &nbsp;Besides, I honestly think the vet is more rare!

[kitoro]

Import Tuner wrote something about the sr21DET in Non Fujita's car... i figured it was a typo... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> so there is an engine like that?
cuz Non got his engine from Tomei ... who supplies this SR21DET? (if it exists... i still have my doubts)

what would be the difference except for a 100cc difference in displacement?? bigger turbo?
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10gs? sounds like it's almost the price of a brand new Silvia engine

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anyone know what type of SR20 Nismo sells? i went to their website and was looking and in their 'engine' selection, they have SR20s for sale... i doubt it's anything stock...

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i'd like sum more info on this SR21DET if it exists. cuz i haven't come across it on the net except for that one article on Import Tuner. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[HippoSleek]

If you can read kanji, check here:
http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/

If not, do a search in altavista for tomei sr21det. You will get the tomei-p site. Open the link by hitting &quot;translate&quot; and altavista will translate what it can to english. When you get the main site, click on the piston and rod icon on left. After it loads, click on any of the TSR### links (the ### = ps output). It gives a description. &nbsp;BTW: you'll notice the displacement is only 2021 - but to Tomei, that makes it a 2.1L. Enjoy dreaming...

Added for the lazy... not that reading this Engrish is easy: SR350:

The complete engine is not to pursue just the highest output, what compared to it handles and is developed on the basis of easiness.
It adjusted standard to the intended purpose which many users need, low the setup which utilizes the turbine ahead of time from revolution and, especially it seriously considered the torque of the medium speed whose use frequency is highest rotary limits low, it set in the specification which it improves.
It meaning that feeling, power, and the response which you seek from the SR20DET engine are this tuning engine, it does.




Conformity
Model PS13
RPS13 *
S14
S15 M/T Based engine NISSAN SR20DET Principal exchange part
Bore x stroke Phi 86.5×86.0 Crank metal
Oil seal
Section gasket
Section O ring
Oil flinger
Timing belt
Cylinder head bolt
Cylinder head bolt washer
Connecting rod volt/bolt
Connecting rod nut
Oil filter
Private cam cover
Water pump
Entire aerodynamic volume displacement 2021cc
Compression ratio 8.1
The highest output 350PS/6500rpm
Largest torque 45.0kgm/4000rpm
Supercharging pressure 1.4kg/cm 2
Use fuel Unleaded premium gasoline
Tuning part TOMEI forging piston
TOMEI piston ring
TOMEI connecting rod metal
TOMEI camshaft
TOMEI valve spring
TOMEI valve guide
TOMEI metal head gasket
TOMEI injector 555cc
TOMEI ECU
TOMEI F/P
TOMEI CTS TC
NGK sparkplug
NISSAN Z32 air flow
NISMO thermostat

* The RPS13 (- 96.8) to is conformity.


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OPTION:
Strengthening connecting rod volt/bolt Validity to the improvement of reliability with when the STD connecting rod is used.
Cooling channel attaching forging piston It can obtain the piston cooling effect of 2 times than the STD.
H section connecting rod Validity to the case where further rigid guaranty is needed.
Large capacity oil pan Without modifying high on the most depression capacity 600cc rise. Per t Shaun you attach, (the deviation prevention with the G)
Rocker arms topper Prevention of falling off of the rocker arm with jumping.


(Edited by HippoSleek at 10:46 am on Dec. 7, 2001)