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89hatchman
02-20-2013, 01:41 PM
I just put a new head gasket in, new water pump, new heater core hoses.

When the block was out I took it to the self car wash and blasted it with the pressure washer to make sure the passages were clear.

The radiator I'm using is an aftermarket one, it looks to be dual core, cooled with 1 electric fan.

So here is the story.

I put everything together and put the thermostat in and found out that it would overheat merely by idling in the garage for 10 minutes. I pulled the jiggle valve out and tried again, the same thing happened. Got a new thermostat and the same thing happened. I put the 2 thermostats in a pot of boiling water and they both opened up as they should. when the stats were in the upper hose would get warm but the radiator and lower hose would be cool.

So, from there I just ran without a thermostat and it sort of fixed the problem. It'll drive for a good length of time without overheating. But the new problem is that on the highway the temp needle will climb to the point where its almost overheating (it would probably overheat but I shut it off before then). But the strange thing is that if I pull off the highway and just city drive it cools off.

This leads me to think that it could be a radiator problem. Possibly there are bent fins or some of the passages are blocked.

What do you think?

rcdad123
02-20-2013, 10:27 PM
i think the coolant does not stay in the radiator long enough to cool. you can drill 3 holes on the thermostat. remove the jiggle vale and enlarge it to about 3mm. then drill one more 3mm holes on each side of the enlarged jiggle valve hole. mount the thermostat so that the holes you drilled are on top, like at 12 0clock if you look at it like a clock. by having the three holes on top, air bubbles escape easier because air rises. fill the radiator to about 1 inch from the top and let it idle till both upper and lower radiator hoses are hot. once they are hot, top off coolant and install radiator cap.

daftcon
02-25-2013, 07:44 PM
i don't mean to sound like i'm insulting your intelligence, but are u 100% certain it was bled and burped properly? i literally just went through this crap this weekend. replaced thermo, new fans, and it took us a couple times making sure all bubbles were out.

the way i knew it was air, was when the car would run, the temp would get to about 3/4 of peak operating temp. but as soon as the car would stop running, the temp gauge would read normal. so we burped it, refilled, and made sure everything was good. these systems are sometime famously a pain to bleed

stealthj
02-25-2013, 10:19 PM
agree, bleed it again!

codyace
02-25-2013, 10:38 PM
It may still be an air bubble, but have you verified temp with an aftermarket gauge?

Another thing to look at is the base timing. To overheat so quickly, I'd look to ensure timing it spot on.

89hatchman
03-01-2013, 09:12 PM
i don't mean to sound like i'm insulting your intelligence, but are u 100% certain it was bled and burped properly? i literally just went through this crap this weekend. replaced thermo, new fans, and it took us a couple times making sure all bubbles were out.

the way i knew it was air, was when the car would run, the temp would get to about 3/4 of peak operating temp. but as soon as the car would stop running, the temp gauge would read normal. so we burped it, refilled, and made sure everything was good. these systems are sometime famously a pain to bleed

Its all good, but yes, I was 100% sure it was bled correctly. I bled it for like 2 hours

It may still be an air bubble, but have you verified temp with an aftermarket gauge?

Another thing to look at is the base timing. To overheat so quickly, I'd look to ensure timing it spot on.

It turns out that it was the wrong temp sensor. I was using a temp sensor for an S13 apparently when I needed one for an S14. Which I found out purely by luck since they both look exactly the same....

Frank_Jaeger
03-01-2013, 09:19 PM
It turns out that it was the wrong temp sensor. I was using a temp sensor for an S13 apparently when I needed one for an S14. Which I found out purely by luck since they both look exactly the same....

I just got lucky. I replaced the CTS for the cluster with one I had in a random intake manifold lying around. Seems to work like it should.