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1stcar240sx
12-11-2001, 03:15 PM
I was wondering which would win if all cars are stock. '95 Integra (auto...blah), 90's Mx-6 (V-6 manual) or '91 240sx.

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 03:25 PM
my moneys on the MX-6.

S14Pilot
12-11-2001, 03:27 PM
Depends on the Integra...is it an LS, GSR, ITR?  The MX-6 will hang, but its no rocket.  If the Teg is a GSR or ITR, it will take them both.  If its an LS, it should be pretty close.

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 03:30 PM
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I was wondering which would win if all cars are stock. '95 Integra (auto...blah)
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since its an AUTO, i doubt its a Type-R or a GS-R, which means its an LS.

1stcar240sx
12-11-2001, 03:34 PM
The Integra is most likely LS but it has a crappy driver.
If i was to say race what is the highest , best , RPM I can go up to on a stock 240?

DSC
12-11-2001, 03:34 PM
you didn't say whether the 240 is auto or manual...

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 03:34 PM
&quot;Mazda sent over two new engines for 1993: yet another 2.0-liter four, this time with double overhead cams, rated at 118 hp, and a new 2.5-liter DOHC V6, good for 164 hp.&quot;

1stcar240sx
12-11-2001, 03:37 PM
The 240 is a manual &amp; its the V-6 MX-6

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 03:44 PM
well in that case, i'd say the race would be between the MX and the 240.

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 03:46 PM
how much does a '91 240 sx weigh?

(Edited by onebadm5 at 2:49 pm on Dec. 11, 2001)

ca18guy
12-11-2001, 04:02 PM
As long as the Integra isn't a GS-R or ITR, my money would be on the 240.

HippoSleek
12-11-2001, 04:07 PM
Vote for 240. &nbsp;Those Mx-6's were just slow.. even w/ the 6 and a 5-speed. &nbsp;

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 04:20 PM
ok 240 it is, even tho the MX is lighter and makes marginally more hp and torque.

mistert
12-11-2001, 04:44 PM
whats the torque rating on the mx-6? i'm for the 240

LanceS13
12-11-2001, 04:52 PM
I'm thinking it'll be up the drivers between the 240 and the MX-6. &nbsp;The 'Teg LS will &nbsp;be back a few cars.

onebadm5
12-11-2001, 04:54 PM
160 ft lbs @ 4000 RPM

versus the 240

156 ft lbs @ 4400 RPM

LanceS13
12-11-2001, 04:56 PM
Oh and since you're stock, don't bother waiting 'til redline to shift. &nbsp;You'll probably feel the power start to drop off around 5800 rpm or so. &nbsp;When you do, hold it out to about 6K, maybe 6200 and shift. &nbsp;Don't go all the way to 6900 (S13) or 6500 (S14) (Which is it?) b/c the stock 240 KA simply doesn't make that much power up there.

Nismos14
12-11-2001, 05:03 PM
hehe i have an auto 240 and i raced a v-6 5 speed mx-6 the gearing is totally gay in that car i beat him in my auto... mod level was the same intake n exhaust.

mistert
12-11-2001, 05:09 PM
our domestic mx-6 is FWD as well, right? so you also have to factor in drivetrain loss and weight shifting problems for him, giving the 240 an advantage

Nismos14
12-11-2001, 05:11 PM
we have more drive train loss in our cars.

240sxtreme
12-11-2001, 05:13 PM
I think it depends on what exactly your doing. &nbsp;the mx6 will seriously pull on a stock 240 in a high speed contest. &nbsp;in fact, I've heard of a CivicSI maxing it's gears and the mx6 still going...that would be between 135-140.
If you're talking about 1/4 mile....unless the guy really sucks, I'd put money on the mx6. &nbsp;as long as he has good tires, and good launch, no problem. &nbsp;
I hate to go against our beloved 240's, but we all know they suck in stock form....for dragging.

Zenki Two40
12-11-2001, 05:17 PM
get a nos kit, then u'll win. i'm seriously thinking about this after i have exhaust, headers, intake done since i don't need to go fast all the time like when i'm commuting to school. plus it's cheap, n by the time my ka is blown i'll have money for an sr swap. haven't looked into nitrous oxide nearly enough to make a final decision though.

mistert
12-11-2001, 05:20 PM
n2o's only good point is how dmaned cheap it is. for what you pay for a decent catback exhaust you can have 75-125hp gain, and all the requisite torque, as well. whats the most you can run on a stock s13, 75-100? cant you get 125 on the s14 KA? i have a dislike for n2o setups, but if i really needed to win and couldnt afford much else, i would definately do it

Zenki Two40
12-11-2001, 05:25 PM
well, first other mods would come first then i'd get it. nothin' really big, maybe a 50 shot whenever i decide to put it into use. still got a healthy ka (20k miles).

konkman
12-11-2001, 06:57 PM
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hehe i have an auto 240 and i raced a v-6 5 speed mx-6 the gearing is totally gay in that car i beat him in my auto... mod level was the same intake n exhaust.
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I think your full of it! &nbsp;My mom has a 94 MX-6 auto V-6, I have a 91 240 fastback with exhaust, intake + hotwires.

We raced to 100km/h, &nbsp;I had her (my sister was driving) by a quarter of a car length. &nbsp;

If it was a standard I would have been done, if I was an auto, I'd be up sh*t creek without a paddel. &nbsp;

MX-6 V6 is faster then us!

S13 Passion
12-11-2001, 07:14 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from onebadm5 on 4:54 pm on Dec. 11, 2001
160 ft lbs @ 4000 RPM

versus the 240

156 ft lbs @ 4400 RPM
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if its a '91 240, it should be also 160lbs of torque...... it was the first year it became a DOHC and 155hp/160lbs

konkman
12-12-2001, 12:34 AM
But the mx-6 has 165hp, 165 torque. &nbsp;I've driven both, the mx-6 v6 has more punch, if it was in a 5spd, it would surely handle a stock 240, as for the integra, I've lost to a type r royally, and toasted a non vtec, never faced a gsr.

1stcar240sx
12-12-2001, 09:08 PM
What is the best intake? price? cold air attachment worth it ? &nbsp;How about exhaust.....good but not too expensive. &nbsp;I am just starting out and I want to start somewhere (install myself).

S14Pilot
12-12-2001, 10:07 PM
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I was wondering which would win if all cars are stock. '95 Integra (auto...blah)
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since its an AUTO, i doubt its a Type-R or a GS-R, which means its an LS.
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Woops....I should have read more carefully.:D

matic 240sx
12-12-2001, 10:15 PM
u can believe me or not... my auto 97 240sx beat my friends 97 integra RS manual... &nbsp;like 3 times.. &nbsp;when they both were stock. &nbsp;after i got my catback and injen with cai, plugs and wires... &nbsp; i ran with a gsr and pulled on him when we were already moving at 40 and hit it...

12-12-2001, 10:48 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from konkman on 8:57 pm on Dec. 11, 2001
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Nismos14 on 5<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3 pm on Dec. 11, 2001
hehe i have an auto 240 and i raced a v-6 5 speed mx-6 the gearing is totally gay in that car i beat him in my auto... mod level was the same intake n exhaust.
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I think your full of it! My mom has a 94 MX-6 auto V-6, I have a 91 240 fastback with exhaust, intake + hotwires.

We raced to 100km/h, I had her (my sister was driving) by a quarter of a car length.

If it was a standard I would have been done, if I was an auto, I'd be up sh*t creek without a paddel.

MX-6 V6 is faster then us!
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i raced him so whatever...... and i did win

soon2Bsilvia
12-13-2001, 12:48 AM
I Seen that you mentioned the mx-6.
Quick question.
Which one is better a stock a 96 Probe GT or a stock 95 MX-6?
(I know they have the same engine)