98 240sx vs. Toyota Celica GTS

[slowmo240]

bone stock..equal drivers etc.  just curious about your input. what about the celica gt?

[whateverjames]

GTS

gts would knock ur sox off and the gt would be about even. or slightly ahead.

[slowmo240]

what do you guys think about the mercury cougar and who do you think will win...i know its not us.


(Edited by slowmo240 at 2:25 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

[Kid Zelda]

Its funny how people always ask these (imho) stupid questions.......why don't you go find out first hand......stop assuming who will win, too many factors involved......... Just do it....like Nike.....

[slowmo240]

not til i get my radar

[Kid Zelda]

Well do it after your get you radar........they tell us what happened........

(Edited by Kid Zelda at 2:30 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

[Zenki Two40]

i dunno, i can c how it might help to know if u shouldn't waste the time of embarassing urself. but in street racing it's always down to the drivers b/c they could be someone that don't know shit about cars or driving n have a nice car.

[S14Pilot]

The GTS would win hands down...not even a question.  Just look at the specs and the times.  This question shouldn't even come up.  I don't know the exact specs of the GT, so I can't comment on that one.  I suspect its a bit quicker though.  As for the Couger, that would be a close one, but I think the Mercury would edge out the 240.  They have power on tap, but they don't use it very effectively.  I know I took one by about a car length with the Si, but the Si would also beat the 240.  Look at the numbers and figure it out.

[whateverjames]

a manual 240sx will beat a mercury cougar considering i could tear them up with my stock SOHC. now watch somebody will say, a cougar will beat a 240sx because they have 164hp when they've never even raced one :biggrin:

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what do you guys think about the mercury cougar and who do you think will win...i know its not us.


(Edited by slowmo240 at 2:25 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)
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The v6 cougar has 15 more hp but also weights 3000-3200lb versus our 2700-2800lb. &nbsp;We could win, they coudl win. &nbsp;I figure it would be pretty equal. &nbsp;Add exhuast and intake to our 240 and put it up to about 170hp as well, and we'd have a definate winner. &nbsp;Of course this is just me speculating like almost everyone else on the board. &nbsp;A 4 cylinder cougar is only 125hp

[xNotoriousGQx]

My brother has the new Celica GTS &nbsp;6speed. &nbsp;We raced on the express way almost every weekend morning &nbsp;going to work. He has an exhaust and cold air intake. &nbsp;I have headers, intake and exhaust. &nbsp;We're always head to head until I reach my speed limit of 120mph. &nbsp;That's when the Celica takes off and leave me behind. &nbsp;It has 160+mph speed limit. &nbsp;As, for the GT...is no match for our 240sx. &nbsp;My bros gf has a Celica &nbsp;GT with cold air intake and exhaust. BTW, I have a 97 240sx. I hope this clear things up a bit.

yah enough talk just post up something when u beat someone.... cuz u never know till u race them and it comes down to the driver. so enough speculation plz!

[S14KAT]

I wish it did, but unfortunately ever driver has his weaknesses and strenghts........every race will be different.

[crazycuban]

i've had a celica gt, and it'll be close, but it takes the 240sx. &nbsp;good drivers get 1/4 mile times of 15.6 or 15.7. &nbsp;the gt-s, with a REAL driver, should have taken u easily. &nbsp;the prob with the gt-s is that the redline is at 7800, and vvtl-i (like vtec) doesnt kick in till 6000. &nbsp;with the tall gearing of the 6-spd, shifts at redline drop u to around 5500. &nbsp;to get good acceleration out of the gt-s, u need to shift at the rev limiter, 8200 rpm. &nbsp;thats why some mags have it at 15.2 or .3, and others at 14.6. &nbsp;btw, the top speed on the gt-s is just under 140, not 160. &nbsp;theres no way u'd be able to take the gt-s tho, even with those mods. &nbsp;a stock gt-s has 160 fwhp, and dyno charts show that an intake and exhaust pushes that up to 170-175.

[Zenki Two40]

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i've had a celica gt, and it'll be close, but it takes the 240sx. good drivers get 1/4 mile times of 15.6 or 15.7. the gt-s, with a REAL driver, should have taken u easily. the prob with the gt-s is that the redline is at 7800, and vvtl-i (like vtec) doesnt kick in till 6000. with the tall gearing of the 6-spd, shifts at redline drop u to around 5500. to get good acceleration out of the gt-s, u need to shift at the rev limiter, 8200 rpm. thats why some mags have it at 15.2 or .3, and others at 14.6. btw, the top speed on the gt-s is just under 140, not 160. theres no way u'd be able to take the gt-s tho, even with those mods. a stock gt-s has 160 fwhp, and dyno charts show that an intake and exhaust pushes that up to 170-175.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

notorious is talking from experience w/ drivers n though, not just #'s.

[crazycuban]

aight, nevermind...

[Zenki Two40]

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haha, sorry 'bout that. thanks for the info n stuff though, still helps out.

[xNotoriousGQx]

Yup..everything really comes down to the &nbsp;driver. &nbsp;I f my brother was pro, he would have taken me out from the start. Another thing... crazycuban said that the speed limit of celica is under 140. &nbsp;This is completely false. &nbsp;He might be referring to a GT but the GTS goes beyond that.
I've driven both GT and GTS. They are real nice cars.

[crazycuban]

nah, i was talkin bout the gt-s...the speedo goes up to 160, but the top speed (i'm pretty positive) is lower...where'd u hear the top speed is 160? &nbsp;please tell me u dont know anyone who's taken it up that far...

(Edited by crazycuban at 8:40 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

[xNotoriousGQx]

Yeah i was just reffering to the speedo. &nbsp;That's weird though...why would they put 160 on the speedo when the car would not even reach it?

[xNotoriousGQx]

The fastest we've gotten my bros GTs is about 137mph.

[Zenki Two40]

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nah, i was talkin bout the gt-s...the speedo goes up to 160, but the top speed (i'm pretty positive) is lower...where'd u hear the top speed is 160? please tell me u dont know anyone who's taken it up that far...

(Edited by crazycuban at 8:40 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)
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he said earilier that it's his brothers gt-s.

[sykikchimp]

The RSX type-S has 160 on it too. &nbsp;It'll do about 145 (according to the speedo) &nbsp;If you shot that with a radar gun it'd be about 135 I think

[sykikchimp]

of course they may have put it there b/c in a perfect world where you could pull to redline in sixth it might do 160. &nbsp;But in reality, when you hit sixth, it starts slowing down b/c of wind drag.

Just a thought.