View Full Version : looking to buy SR20DET 1993-1998 240sx
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 02:00 PM
I'm a teen driver saving up money to buy an S13/S14 with an SR20 engine.
I'm a huge noob when it comes to this stuff so I was wondering if I can get a few pointers when buying this car such as:
range of how much the car would cost (preferably for one in a condition where the car runs well and at least has AC lol)
maintenance issues/costs; how to maintain
dumb things not to do when driving this car
etc
I probably won't buy the car for another year or two, but if you know anyone willing to sell me one (someone living in Florida or somewhere close to the Jacksonville area), please contact me at my email:
[email protected] (
[email protected])
Thanks, guys :)
EDIT:
I have my insight on whether I should get an SR. I've decided that I'm NOT going to get one. I'm gonna keep it simple and get a stock 240 preferably '95-'98 and I definitely won't be getting into any major modifications on my car.
I appreciate all the input you guys put into my questions, thanks.
brndck
11-17-2012, 02:07 PM
well, this forum is an excellent resource, just don't expect people to spoon feed you info. it is all readily available, YOU are required to do the research though.
Bmxer300zx
11-17-2012, 02:33 PM
here broaden your search
1989-1998
94's were verts only
dont worry about a sr a stock sr s13 is less fun than a dohc s13 with coils, other suspension mods and a lsd. More you can do but people seem to worry about go fast opposed to handling.
A friend had a bonestock s13 with a sr handled like shit and a one wheel steelie peel is lame
HyperTek
11-17-2012, 03:17 PM
6 Months later, For sale/part out thread by zerobeeeeeatz. "wrecked into curb/building/motor blown etc".
HAha just kidding, anyways, stay lurking this forum and learn all you can. While I do not recommend starting out with a already swapped SR car. You need to learn how to work on it first, as no repair shop will really know how to work on an sr20 let alone get parts for it, in case all of a sudden you need a water pump and your local repair shop has no clue on it etc.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 03:20 PM
well, this forum is an excellent resource, just don't expect people to spoon feed you info. it is all readily available, YOU are required to do the research though.
yeah man, I've gone through a lot of research about the car this past week lol. the thing is most of the people talking were super experienced and I was really lost and it was pretty hard to follow what they were talking about.
I've got most of the basics down, I'm not trying to get into any serious racing/drifting, but I guess this will become a hobby for me.
I just listed the things I wasn't sure about like I said earlier:
range of how much the car would cost (I've seen a lot of em go from 3k-7k but most had something dumb wrong with them like no AC or something which is why I'm trying to look into how much one in good condition would cost)
dumb things not to do while driving an SR20
basic maintenance needs that are different from a stock engine
One specific thing I'm confused about is maintenance for an SR20, since it's not exactly a stock engine I was told that I can't really bring it to Nissan to get it maintained. I'm not sure if this is true or not, I'm guessing they can do basic maintenance like oil change but I'd have to buy my own oil. I was wondering if the same would apply for the other parts, if I just bought the other parts would they be able to install them for me?
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 03:23 PM
6 Months later, For sale/part out thread by zerobeeeeeatz. "wrecked into curb/building/motor blown etc".
HAha just kidding, anyways, stay lurking this forum and learn all you can. While I do not recommend starting out with a already swapped SR car. You need to learn how to work on it first, as no repair shop will really know how to work on an sr20 let alone get parts for it, in case all of a sudden you need a water pump and your local repair shop has no clue on it etc.
Hahaha, something I'm really trying to avoid is doing stupid things with this car xP I'm still a noob, teen driver and I'm prone to doing stupid things but I'm working hard for this car and I'm planning on taking care of it.
I was told that same thing by my older brother, the maintenance is what worries me lol. What are your thoughts on a KA24DET? (specifically for me, vs an SR)
dos eses
11-17-2012, 03:34 PM
If you want to buy a car with a sr20det, don't only focus on sr20det specifics. If you can't follow alot of the basics people tell you about the motor or mechanics o it in general, then educate yourself. I'm assuming you already understand the basic workings of an internal combustion motor, if you need further help into understanding the ins and puts of a turbo motor, and since you are planning on buying a turbo motor, I highly suggest books such as maximum boost by corky bell. It tells you pretty much everything you will ever need to know about turbo charged motors. It's written very simply too and easy follow. Parts of it are slightly outdated, since I believe it was written in the early 90's but still a great read to educate yourself.
Basically, don't just rely in forums for your education. They are good, but there is also a wealth of misinformation and debatable topics. If you really want to know just try and really educate yourself.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 04:34 PM
If you want to buy a car with a sr20det, don't only focus on sr20det specifics. If you can't follow alot of the basics people tell you about the motor or mechanics o it in general, then educate yourself. I'm assuming you already understand the basic workings of an internal combustion motor, if you need further help into understanding the ins and puts of a turbo motor, and since you are planning on buying a turbo motor, I highly suggest books such as maximum boost by corky bell. It tells you pretty much everything you will ever need to know about turbo charged motors. It's written very simply too and easy follow. Parts of it are slightly outdated, since I believe it was written in the early 90's but still a great read to educate yourself.
Basically, don't just rely in forums for your education. They are good, but there is also a wealth of misinformation and debatable topics. If you really want to know just try and really educate yourself.
Thanks, will look into it
xoxide
11-17-2012, 05:24 PM
Fuck... Florida strikes again... In my town to. :naw:
On a helpful note, go to www.240sx.net (http://www.240sx.net)
Its a jax local 240 forum.
And if you're going to be taking a 10-15 year old car to Nissan for "maitenence" ie oil change, I would not recommend a SR, or even a 240sx for that matter. These cars break down constantly and if you do not know how to work on them (even just simple maitenence), your going to be screwed.
Last, if you think not having ac is a problem with the car, 99% of people who swap SR's into their USDM 240s's do not have AC. If you want it you're probably going to have to do that yourself, in which case you need to google codyace's SR AC conversion.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 05:57 PM
Fuck... Florida strikes again... In my town to. :naw:
On a helpful note, go to www.240sx.net (http://www.240sx.net)
Its a jax local 240 forum.
And if you're going to be taking a 10-15 year old car to Nissan for "maitenence" ie oil change, I would not recommend a SR, or even a 240sx for that matter. These cars break down constantly and if you do not know how to work on them (even just simple maitenence), your going to be screwed.
Last, if you think not having ac is a problem with the car, 99% of people who swap SR's into their USDM 240s's do not have AC. If you want it you're probably going to have to do that yourself, in which case you need to google codyace's SR AC conversion.
lol... thanks.
and I actually heard SR's were pretty reliable for daily driving as long as you keep it around 7 PSI.
is there a specific reason for them not having AC?
how reliable would a turbocharged KA engine be? lol
xoxide
11-17-2012, 06:08 PM
Precursor questions:
-How old are you?
-Income, if any? (do you have the $$$ to properly build it)
-Mechanical experience?
Any motor can be reliable if it is built properly and not built using shitty parts.
Most swaps dont have AC because most people dont use AC afterwards, either they are used to driving a shitbox, or they are track cars. When buying a motor from an importer, none of the AC stuff comes with the motorset so most people just dont use it. Also alot of people dont live in humid, hot florida.
A KA-T is just as reliable as an SR, again if built properly. You need a good chunk of change to do so...
If this is your first car and is going to be your daily driver I would recommend getting a stock 240... SR's are expensive and a major pain in the ass if you start taking short cuts and using cheap parts.
Bmxer300zx
11-17-2012, 06:13 PM
AC is different on a sr to ka? cant remember 100% most people dont wana bother trying to make it work plus the extra 5whp to some is worth sweating to death in 100 degree weather
Sr's are pretty reliable, well ones i've had or helped swap stock psi is 7 if i remember right its more how you drive you beat the shit outa it and constantly boost you'll run into problems. sensor wise some are interchangable with z32, ka and usdm sr20de
A ka can be reliable turbo'd but the few i've been around don't last long.
xoxide
11-17-2012, 06:19 PM
Its not the motors so to speak, its the owners and previous owners that rag the shit out of the motor. Why do you think half the motors coming to the US are coming to the US? Because most of the cars theyre being pulled out of are drifted, beat to shit, or crashed (usally because of reason 1 and 2)... If you go through the motor and freshen it up (new gaskets, arp studs, etc etc.), you shoud be good reliability wise.
memphis180sx
11-17-2012, 06:21 PM
There is adaptor kits for ac with a sr in s chassis cars and check craigslist in orlando for 240s there is always 4 or 5 nice ones for sale a week.
Piggy
11-17-2012, 06:26 PM
You need to learn how to pull the handbrake. If you do it right, girls' clothes will come off.
Bmxer300zx
11-17-2012, 06:45 PM
Its not the motors so to speak, its the owners and previous owners that rag the shit out of the motor. Why do you think half the motors coming to the US are coming to the US? Because most of the cars theyre being pulled out of are drifted, beat to shit, or crashed (usally because of reason 1 and 2)... If you go through the motor and freshen it up (new gaskets, arp studs, etc etc.), you shoud be good reliability wise.
ya i went through my Rb all gaskets exept head, water pump, t-stat, t-belt, idler pulleys, plugs and converted to a ka24de powersteering pump and new z32 alt, z32 ptu and tons more 2 years later and not a hiccup.
As far as boosting a ka it comes down to what you said having it done right most kids slap a t28 or ebay kit and leave it untuned and beat the piss outa. Well the ones i've seen lol
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 06:48 PM
Precursor questions:
-How old are you?
-Income, if any? (do you have the $$$ to properly build it)
-Mechanical experience?
Any motor can be reliable if it is built properly and not built using shitty parts.
Most swaps dont have AC because most people dont use AC afterwards, either they are used to driving a shitbox, or they are track cars. When buying a motor from an importer, none of the AC stuff comes with the motorset so most people just dont use it. Also alot of people dont live in humid, hot florida.
A KA-T is just as reliable as an SR, again if built properly. You need a good chunk of change to do so...
If this is your first car and is going to be your daily driver I would recommend getting a stock 240... SR's are expensive and a major pain in the ass if you start taking short cuts and using cheap parts.
I really appreciate your input bro, thanks.
I'm only 16 with basically no mechanical experience at all lol. I won't be buying this car for another year or two, I'm just looking into things for now. I only work part time min wage. My dad is paying for half the car and I'll be 18 by the time I get it so I'll definitely have a job to get the money to maintain the car.
It's getting pretty discouraging as I'm looking into SR20 240's, I really want one though, or even at least a KA-T. I dunno, it'd be nice to have a turbocharged car lol. I'm really looking into mechanical stuff because it'd be nice to have the knowledge in the future.
For me, would you recommend a KA-T or an SR?
xoxide
11-17-2012, 06:51 PM
I would recommend you getting a stock 240 (CLEAN 240), and chilling out with the turbo bullshit. Start with the basics, suspension and brakes. A stock motor with basic boltons will keep you plenty happy for a little while until you get familiar with the car. Having a turbo'd car isnt all its made out to be. There are a ton of headaches that go along with it, and you, having no mechanical experience is just setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-17-2012, 06:53 PM
I would recommend you getting a stock 240 (CLEAN 240), and chilling out with the turbo bullshit. Start with the basics, suspension and brakes. A stock motor with basic boltons will keep you plenty happy for a little while until you get familiar with the car. Having a turbo'd car isnt all its made out to be. There are a ton of headaches that go along with it, and you, having no mechanical experience is just setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.
Alright, sounds good. Thanks dude.
iRONDONkey
11-18-2012, 02:42 AM
I really appreciate your input bro, thanks.
I'm only 16 with basically no mechanical experience at all lol. I won't be buying this car for another year or two, I'm just looking into things for now. I only work part time min wage. My dad is paying for half the car and I'll be 18 by the time I get it so I'll definitely have a job to get the money to maintain the car.
It's getting pretty discouraging as I'm looking into SR20 240's, I really want one though, or even at least a KA-T. I dunno, it'd be nice to have a turbocharged car lol. I'm really looking into mechanical stuff because it'd be nice to have the knowledge in the future.
For me, would you recommend a KA-T or an SR?
alright, here is what you should do from the start.
first, do you have any car buddies? if not, you should find some. everyone will be able to help each other out. i can almost guarantee every member on here has a "crew" that have the same interest in modding cars.
second, since you have no mechanical experience at all, find yourself a STOCK 240, and learn with that. Make sure it's clean/reliable.
from that, learn the easy stuff- brakes/suspension. you need to get your feet wet before going into advanced stuff, even though in reality, it really isn't that difficult. it depends on your common sense.
learn what it's like wrenching bolts and upgrading the little things. learn to change your oil, swap out your brake pads, and learn how to fix minor issues if you ever run into them. usually small problems will arise, and it really is common sense in fixing it.
third, continue to work, and SAVE your money. slowly gain experience in what it's like to wrench old cars and get some mechanical experience. you can do easy upgrades- coilovers, brakes, brake lines, suspension arms, etc.
do that for a 2 years. continue to SAVE your money.
you'll grow older and be much more experienced in what it's like to work on cars. during that time, do your research, read forums, go to car meets, talk to people, help your friends out with their cars, enjoy it.
i hope you have hopes and dreams that are better than owning a nice 240. Hopefully you strive for success in life, where you'll be able to do have the freedom to do as you wish, even if it may be having a nice 240. worry about gaining that freedom, before having a nice car. (((my mentor was pulling in $60k month before the tech bubble. he was only 17 years old. his first car was a C5 vette, he bought in cash. at 18, he also bought a 350z, in cash, when it first came out, in 2003. but being young and stupid, he lost it all. but it was a good experience for him, he currently grosses 5 million a year with his business. This is what i mean by FREEDOM, you can do as you wish. freedom is when you can impulse buy cars- he recently bought a C6 vette in cash, dumped a couple grand in mods.)))
but chances are by the time you are 18-19, unless you are a self made entrepreneur, you'll have a limit on how much money you will have saved.
thus, you need to set down a budget that you will not go over.
i personally follow the 10% rule- do not spend over 10% of what you net in one year, on your car.
with the budget set down, you'll have the large sum of money to work with what you need. hopefully at this point, you will have gained much knowledge with what you need to know.
then, scour the hell out of fourms/craigslist/ebay for parts.
I found great deals on all my parts.
my rebuilt SR longblock with a built head, stage 3 clutch, lightweight flywheel, and transmission, under 20k miles- 800
FMIC/piping, turbo elbow, exhaust mani, radiator with hoses, coilpack, harness, some other things etc etc- roughly 450
I still have my KA24DE i can sell, which saves me money on my build.
you get the idea. search for good deals, because they are out there.
you need to be patient, and you don't have to worry about the money issue, because it's there, as long as you don't go over.
and by then you should have enough experience/knowledge on what to do.
just be smart with your money.
that is what i would have done, if i were 16 again.
instead i owned a bunch of different crappy S13's, spent some money here and there, and wasted my time/money.
millerlight763
11-18-2012, 06:14 AM
Being young and in this day in age, we want everything now. What a lot of these guys are telling you is true. I just turned 24 and I am just now getting ready to start exploring the option of a KA-T. This was after a failed attempt at a 1JZ swap, and two junk 240sx's. Research EVERYTHING and use the Service Manual. I am willing to spend a Minimum of 2 hours searching for information before I ask someone for help and typically I can find it on my own. And SAVE SAVE SAVE. Don't rush into a turbo, learn the basics and you will do fine. We are here to help if you run into trouble... after you've done some searching. Good Luck lil bro, PM if you have any questions.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 12:34 PM
alright, here is what you should do from the start.
first, do you have any car buddies? if not, you should find some. everyone will be able to help each other out. i can almost guarantee every member on here has a "crew" that have the same interest in modding cars.
second, since you have no mechanical experience at all, find yourself a STOCK 240, and learn with that. Make sure it's clean/reliable.
from that, learn the easy stuff- brakes/suspension. you need to get your feet wet before going into advanced stuff, even though in reality, it really isn't that difficult. it depends on your common sense.
learn what it's like wrenching bolts and upgrading the little things. learn to change your oil, swap out your brake pads, and learn how to fix minor issues if you ever run into them. usually small problems will arise, and it really is common sense in fixing it.
third, continue to work, and SAVE your money. slowly gain experience in what it's like to wrench old cars and get some mechanical experience. you can do easy upgrades- coilovers, brakes, brake lines, suspension arms, etc.
do that for a 2 years. continue to SAVE your money.
you'll grow older and be much more experienced in what it's like to work on cars. during that time, do your research, read forums, go to car meets, talk to people, help your friends out with their cars, enjoy it.
i hope you have hopes and dreams that are better than owning a nice 240. Hopefully you strive for success in life, where you'll be able to do have the freedom to do as you wish, even if it may be having a nice 240. worry about gaining that freedom, before having a nice car. (((my mentor was pulling in $60k month before the tech bubble. he was only 17 years old. his first car was a C5 vette, he bought in cash. at 18, he also bought a 350z, in cash, when it first came out, in 2003. but being young and stupid, he lost it all. but it was a good experience for him, he currently grosses 5 million a year with his business. This is what i mean by FREEDOM, you can do as you wish. freedom is when you can impulse buy cars- he recently bought a C6 vette in cash, dumped a couple grand in mods.)))
but chances are by the time you are 18-19, unless you are a self made entrepreneur, you'll have a limit on how much money you will have saved.
thus, you need to set down a budget that you will not go over.
i personally follow the 10% rule- do not spend over 10% of what you net in one year, on your car.
with the budget set down, you'll have the large sum of money to work with what you need. hopefully at this point, you will have gained much knowledge with what you need to know.
then, scour the hell out of fourms/craigslist/ebay for parts.
I found great deals on all my parts.
my rebuilt SR longblock with a built head, stage 3 clutch, lightweight flywheel, and transmission, under 20k miles- 800
FMIC/piping, turbo elbow, exhaust mani, radiator with hoses, coilpack, harness, some other things etc etc- roughly 450
I still have my KA24DE i can sell, which saves me money on my build.
you get the idea. search for good deals, because they are out there.
you need to be patient, and you don't have to worry about the money issue, because it's there, as long as you don't go over.
and by then you should have enough experience/knowledge on what to do.
just be smart with your money.
that is what i would have done, if i were 16 again.
instead i owned a bunch of different crappy S13's, spent some money here and there, and wasted my time/money.
Being young and in this day in age, we want everything now. What a lot of these guys are telling you is true. I just turned 24 and I am just now getting ready to start exploring the option of a KA-T. This was after a failed attempt at a 1JZ swap, and two junk 240sx's. Research EVERYTHING and use the Service Manual. I am willing to spend a Minimum of 2 hours searching for information before I ask someone for help and typically I can find it on my own. And SAVE SAVE SAVE. Don't rush into a turbo, learn the basics and you will do fine. We are here to help if you run into trouble... after you've done some searching. Good Luck lil bro, PM if you have any questions.
Wow, this is a lot. This will be of great help to me. Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. All of your really saved my butt from making a bad decision lol.
fliprayzin240sx
11-18-2012, 01:22 PM
So you're 16, working min wage, no mechanical know how...my advice to you is stay the fuck away from these cars. You need a reliable car, nothing about any 15-20 yr old car is gonna be pristine. You being broke and no mechanical know how is gonna be a bad combination. These cars turn into money pits real quick.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 05:07 PM
So you're 16, working min wage, no mechanical know how...my advice to you is stay the fuck away from these cars. You need a reliable car, nothing about any 15-20 yr old car is gonna be pristine. You being broke and no mechanical know how is gonna be a bad combination. These cars turn into money pits real quick.
even with a good condition '96 stock 240? I'll definitely be able to get maintenance for the car whenever I need it, my parents are gonna help me with the money issue whenever I need it.
only reason I'm getting an old 15-20 year old car is because my parents aren't buying me a car so I'm gonna have to save up for my own, and since I'm already into cars like these it seemed like a good idea to start here. cheap and reliable daily drivers.
xoxide
11-18-2012, 05:19 PM
These arent cheap and reliable daily drivers. You want an SR car, which means you're probably like most of us on here and cant just leave shit alone. Which means, car wont stay stock, which means your reliability will start going down hill fast, along with your savings account. By the way, its chump to get mommy and daddy to pay for your stuff.. Buy a civic and call it a day.
Corbic
11-18-2012, 05:46 PM
These arent cheap and reliable daily drivers.
I beg to differ. They are very simple, reliable and basic cars. Parts are also very cheap.
The problem people face is that mods and engine swaps are done by idiots who are to ill experienced to even do basic maintenance. They do all sorts of short cuts, half assed work and omfg... shit is broken.
OP, Stop posting, put the keyboard down. You need to do some basic research and man up. This shit has been asked thousands of fucking times across dozens of web forums. If you want to own one do some research on your own. If you can't look up some basic FAQs and question threads your to stupid to know how to work on a car.
Also, if you want a reliable daily driver - as in DOES NOT NEED TO BE WORKED ON WEEKLY - expect to spend $7,500. Either in buying a car, or in building one. Yes, you can do it for less, but then we get into that "half-assed" thing I was talking about and you can expect to be doing something to it every week or two.
Bambi
11-18-2012, 05:55 PM
cheap and reliable daily drivers.
:down::bowrofl:
I've spent so much God damn money on my 240sx just to have it stay/be reliable and run right and it doesn't going any faster than the day I bought it off a Nissan tech who finished changing out the water pump, belts, and a ton of other things. Just has some different wheels. :keke:
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp230/iskateLakeForest/IMG_1544_zpsba707e03.jpg
OOOOOOOOOOOh and don't get me started on my very first pos 240sx I bought when I still didn't even have a license yet. :drama:
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp230/iskateLakeForest/IMG_0488.jpg
Get a Toyota or Honda. Pull the ebrake on 'em a few times, whatever. Learn how to drive, educate yourself more, don't depend on your parents and once you've accepted that you hate your life and don't like having money maybe look into buying a 240sx.
There's no need to be in a damn rush to buy a pos 240sx. More so buying your first one with an sr20 somebody poorly swapped in. That would be stupid.
xoxide
11-18-2012, 06:01 PM
The problem people face is that mods and engine swaps are done by idiots who are to ill experienced to even do basic maintenance. They do all sorts of short cuts, half assed work and omfg... shit is broken.
True. I should have worded it diffrently, just didnt feel like typing that much haha.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 06:11 PM
These arent cheap and reliable daily drivers. You want an SR car, which means you're probably like most of us on here and cant just leave shit alone. Which means, car wont stay stock, which means your reliability will start going down hill fast, along with your savings account. By the way, its chump to get mommy and daddy to pay for your stuff.. Buy a civic and call it a day.
I've already to decided to keep it simple and get a stock 240. I'm not getting an SR, KA-T, or any other mod. I'm definitely not planning to put any major work into my car other than maintaining it's basic needs and I won't be getting into any modding until I have the experience and the money and if I even still feel like doing anything to it in the future. In time, I'll be able to learn about all this stuff and if I wanna do anything major to my car, then I'll do it. I won't get my mommy and daddy to buy my parts and put in all the work for me for something I don't even need. If I ever do need financial assistance with things my car DOES need because I absolutely just can't get the money, then my parents are there to help me so I don't end up in a money pit and I'll be just fine lol. I'm barely 16, it's my first car and I barely know what I'm doing. I can't even financially provide for myself, so my parents are there for a reason, to help me avoid getting into bad situations. To save up for my own first car is just something I want to accomplish as a teenager.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 06:17 PM
I beg to differ. They are very simple, reliable and basic cars. Parts are also very cheap.
The problem people face is that mods and engine swaps are done by idiots who are to ill experienced to even do basic maintenance. They do all sorts of short cuts, half assed work and omfg... shit is broken.
OP, Stop posting, put the keyboard down. You need to do some basic research and man up. This shit has been asked thousands of fucking times across dozens of web forums. If you want to own one do some research on your own. If you can't look up some basic FAQs and question threads your to stupid to know how to work on a car.
Also, if you want a reliable daily driver - as in DOES NOT NEED TO BE WORKED ON WEEKLY - expect to spend $7,500. Either in buying a car, or in building one. Yes, you can do it for less, but then we get into that "half-assed" thing I was talking about and you can expect to be doing something to it every week or two.
I've done my basic research. I made this thread so I can ask specific questions and gain the insight I need instead of searching hours through a thread only to find something close to what I need to know, but in terms I don't even really understand because of my lack of knowledge in this area. I'm just trying to get direct input from people with experience in this type of stuff so they can put it in simpler terms and because I feel this is a more effective way for me to get the information I need to know.
I appreciate your input lol.
Corbic
11-18-2012, 06:34 PM
I'm dumb and lazy
$8 - chump change buy it now.
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$30 - shit was $12.99 when I bought mine.. 10 years ago.
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f4iGGhUCL._SL500_.jpg
Get one of these as well - you'll have to learn how to apply basic and advanced concepts to more then one application.
Amazon.com: How to Restore Your Datsun Z-Car (9781931128025): Wick Humble: Books (http://www.amazon.com/How-Restore-Your-Datsun-Z-Car/dp/1931128022/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288713&sr=1-4&keywords=how+to+restore+a+car)
How to Restore Your Muscle Car (Motorbooks Workshop): Greg Donahue: 9780760321911: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Restore-Your-Muscle-Motorbooks-Workshop/dp/0760321914/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288713&sr=1-3&keywords=how+to+restore+a+car)
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Restoring-Collector/dp/1592572340/ref=sr_1_26?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288741&sr=1-26&keywords=how+to+restore+a+car
AND get one of these -
Buying a Car for Dummies: Deanna Sclar: 0785555550919: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Buying-Car-Dummies-Deanna-Sclar/dp/0764550918/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288849&sr=1-2&keywords=buying+a+used+car)
Feel free to ask away after reading all of these books.
xoxide
11-18-2012, 06:36 PM
If they're there to help you not get in a money pit.. They need to veto the buying a 240 asap. lmao...
Do what I said and register on 240sx.net, we'll help you out there since its a local forum, you can come out to a meet and ask questions and whatnot.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 06:37 PM
$8 - chump change buy it now.
Auto Repair For Dummies: Deanna Sclar: 0785555550896: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Auto-Repair-Dummies-Deanna-Sclar/dp/0764550896)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZplPzo-OL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
$30 - shit was $12.99 when I bought mine.. 10 years ago.
Nissan Stanza, 200SX, and 240SX, 1982-92 (Chilton's Total Car Care Repair Manuals): Chilton: 9780801982620: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Nissan-Stanza-1982-92-Chiltons-Manuals/dp/0801982626)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f4iGGhUCL._SL500_.jpg
Get one of these as well - you'll have to learn how to apply basic and advanced concepts to more then one application.
Amazon.com: How to Restore Your Datsun Z-Car (9781931128025): Wick Humble: Books (http://www.amazon.com/How-Restore-Your-Datsun-Z-Car/dp/1931128022/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288713&sr=1-4&keywords=how+to+restore+a+car)
How to Restore Your Muscle Car (Motorbooks Workshop): Greg Donahue: 9780760321911: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Restore-Your-Muscle-Motorbooks-Workshop/dp/0760321914/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288713&sr=1-3&keywords=how+to+restore+a+car)
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Restoring Collector Cars: Tom Benford: 9781592572342: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Restoring-Collector/dp/1592572340/ref=sr_1_26?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288741&sr=1-26&keywords=how+to+restore+a+car)
AND get one of these -
Buying a Car for Dummies: Deanna Sclar: 0785555550919: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Buying-Car-Dummies-Deanna-Sclar/dp/0764550918/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353288849&sr=1-2&keywords=buying+a+used+car)
Feel free to ask away after reading all of these books.
....
lmao, thanks.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 06:41 PM
If they're there to help you not get in a money pit.. They need to veto the buying a 240 asap. lmao...
Do what I said and register on 240sx.net, we'll help you out there since its a local forum, you can come out to a meet and ask questions and whatnot.
the site isn't taking registrations.
you're from Jacksonville, right? you know a dude named Darrell? drives a green SR20 Kouki lol. participates in a lot of events and stuff throughout Florida.
yingiang
11-18-2012, 06:42 PM
if you save up enough you can buy my s14 from me.
xoxide
11-18-2012, 06:44 PM
the site isn't taking registrations.
you're from Jacksonville, right? you know a dude named Darrell? drives a green SR20 Kouki lol. participates in a lot of events and stuff throughout Florida.
Yeah it is haha... And yeah I know Daryll, hes a cool dude.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 06:49 PM
Yeah it is haha... And yeah I know Daryll, hes a cool dude.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8BzgSFCEAALA7m.png
:V
Haha, wow that's cool. Him and my bro have been friends for years, I remember seeing his 240s as a kid lol.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 06:52 PM
if you save up enough you can buy my s14 from me.
are you willing to wait a year or two? lmao.
Corbic
11-18-2012, 06:56 PM
....
lmao, thanks.
I'm being serious. Clearly you are not. Reported.
iRONDONkey
11-18-2012, 07:12 PM
it took me 3 years to find my daily driveable 240.
chances are, all of them will have a drift tax on it.
try to find a 240 that was owned by an old person. to this day, i still see kouki's and zenki's driven by old people with grey hair.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 08:30 PM
I'm being serious. Clearly you are not. Reported.
I was being pretty serious
but oh man oh no :faint:
it took me 3 years to find my daily driveable 240.
chances are, all of them will have a drift tax on it.
try to find a 240 that was owned by an old person. to this day, i still see kouki's and zenki's driven by old people with grey hair.
Ahh, makes sense.
I've only been looking around on Craigslist and eBay and I have some of my older brother's friends to help me look. The sellers on this site don't seem to have any stock 240's, it'd probably be rare to find one.
Any other sources you recommend where I can find a stock 240?
xoxide
11-18-2012, 08:57 PM
Drive around town looking for 240's... Follow them home (dont follow to close though, so they dont know you're following), and then knock on there door and ask them to sell their car to you. Tell them you are a mexican drug lord, and if they do not sell the car, at the price that you determine to be fair, you will send the cartel for them... Surefire way to find yourself a nice 240.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-18-2012, 09:11 PM
Drive around town looking for 240's... Follow them home (dont follow to close though, so they dont know you're following), and then knock on there door and ask them to sell their car to you. Tell them you are a mexican drug lord, and if they do not sell the car, at the price that you determine to be fair, you will send the cartel for them... Surefire way to find yourself a nice 240.
Great idea, but flawed.
I could deal with things a lot easier by simply stealing it right away as well having the cartel take them right away. Why confront them and reveal yourself only to risk being caught?
Eh, I might as well shoot the fool on the spot, because in reality, I don't have a cartel to take care of that for me, the most I could do is have my mom keep him in her closet or something.
....
*sarcasmz yall*
don't wanna risk being roped by da feds
danny92
11-18-2012, 09:43 PM
Your pretty much in the same situation as i was last year. My advice is just to get a real tidy stock 240/180/s13. Last year i was looking for a 180sx myself, went to have a look at heaps of them but most of them were turbo, beatup and owned by drift nuts who just thrashed it and didnt give a s#$%. What you want is a real simple, non turbo, manual and stock 240. With regular service and care any car can be reliable but since these cars are old you will come across little bits and pieces that go wrong. I currently own a 97 180sx type s which i found after searching for almost 6-7months. it was very tidy, fully stock apart from lowering springs and i think its a great base to start on.
Just like you i didn't have much experience, just knew bits i read off the net but after owning the car you learn alot of things. As someone mentioned already i think its great to have a "crew" or friend base who are interested in cars also or own similar cars. They can be very helpful when things go wrong. If your working with a low paying job, non turbo engine will help greatly with the fuel efficiency.
The only thing that will make it very frustrating with buying a stock car is since it comes with pretty much no modifications it will cost you quite alot to get bits for it. Sometimes i wonder why i didn't wait a bit longer and get something with nice mods done to it but then i reckon if i spend the money and time on this car i will get more attached to it and love it even more.
Im based in New Zealand so i won't be able to help you with the pricing and stuff in the states.
BE PATIENT , KEEP SAVING and good luck!!
iRONDONkey
11-18-2012, 10:42 PM
but being in NZ... i'd get an S15.
Driftwurks
11-19-2012, 01:36 PM
You are going to want to have some basic knowledge before you buy a 240SX otherwise you are going to be spending a lot of money or constantly asking questions. Buy a regular car and learn to wrench on that and gain some basic mechanic's skills before you buy a 240SX. By the way, this is just my opinion so feel free to do whatever you please.
iRONDONkey
11-19-2012, 03:05 PM
1997 240sx.. Manual (http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?79686-1997-240sx-Manual)
clean, reliable, and owned by a 62 year old woman.
zerobeeeeeatz
11-19-2012, 06:25 PM
1997 240sx.. Manual (http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?79686-1997-240sx-Manual)
clean, reliable, and owned by a 62 year old woman.
oh my god
if only i had the money now -.-
lol but thanks dude
Bmxer300zx
11-19-2012, 07:57 PM
dude seriously just get a stock 240sx drive it do basics, coils wheels exhaust then worry bout a swap.
my first car was a 93 Z32 clean AF.
drove great for 5months then took to a local 1/8th mile well developed rod knock.
I popped the hood the next day and tell you what a sr/Rb is a walk in the park compared to a z motor.
Thought about selling the car but said
[email protected] it! bought a 300zx shop manual tore tge motor down and rebuilt it MYSELF with not one stitch of mechanical background.
Well after i got it back in a Dd the car for 3 years and 60,000 miles later i sold it.
.
Just get a clean car and just do research the only way to learn something is to do it.
Corbic
11-20-2012, 12:07 AM
1997 240sx.. Manual (http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?79686-1997-240sx-Manual)
clean, reliable, and owned by a 62 year old woman.
...and after $8k it might actually be decent!
zerobeeeeeatz
11-20-2012, 04:28 PM
dude seriously just get a stock 240sx drive it do basics, coils wheels exhaust then worry bout a swap.
my first car was a 93 Z32 clean AF.
drove great for 5months then took to a local 1/8th mile well developed rod knock.
I popped the hood the next day and tell you what a sr/Rb is a walk in the park compared to a z motor.
Thought about selling the car but said
[email protected] it! bought a 300zx shop manual tore tge motor down and rebuilt it MYSELF with not one stitch of mechanical background.
Well after i got it back in a Dd the car for 3 years and 60,000 miles later i sold it.
.
Just get a clean car and just do research the only way to learn something is to do it.
Yeah, I already decided to take that route. Thanks bro.
But tbh, I may not even mod my car at all lol.
Bmxer300zx
11-21-2012, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I already decided to take that route. Thanks bro.
But tbh, I may not even mod my car at all lol.
do it up bro all its about is having fun and doing what you wana do not others wana see.
just get one and drive it if you feel you want lower/better handling look into suspension setup that suits you. same with wheels or if you wana go faster decide from there.
you'll learn will just take time and getting used to wrenching
enkei2k
11-21-2012, 03:04 PM
Closing thread because this is not the correct section to post a WTB thread.
Also removed OP's contact information.
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