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DSC
12-17-2001, 03:40 PM
Yup so I've got swirl marks all over my car. Also a good ammount of light scratches from the cats iceskating on the car with their claws out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>...anyway, what have you all done to get rid of swirl marks? Wax helps alittle but doesn't get rid of them.

gh6o6
12-17-2001, 03:53 PM
maguires 3 step cleaning/waxing

sxfro
12-17-2001, 04:14 PM
i work at a body shop and we use a 3m rubbing compound followed buy 3m machine glaze and it work pretty good

AJ
12-17-2001, 04:37 PM
where can you find that kinda stuff?.. and will it take out little scratches?... how well does it match?

sykikchimp
12-17-2001, 06:37 PM
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zainobros.com&quot;&gt;ZainoBrothers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;The BEST wax I have ever used or seen. &nbsp;They have complete setups that will do ANYTHING you need.

my240likenoother
12-17-2001, 08:04 PM
i use the quick wax spray with the 26 yellow meguiers paste wax it takes out the swirls real nice and make shure that you use 100% cotten nylon will put the swirls in the paint
i try to stay away from the compounds they tend to put swirls into the paint and it just makes it harder to wax
and always wash and wax the car before doing this

DSC
12-18-2001, 09:13 AM
For anybody who's interested, avalonracing.net (http://www.avalonracing.net) has and artical (http://www.avalonracing.net/swirlmarks.htm) on removing swirl marks and products to to use in getting rid of them. They have all sorts of other detailing info too, like 30 pages worth <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> my baby's gona be all nice and shiny now hehe.

my240likenoother
12-18-2001, 07:49 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DSC on 12:13 pm on Dec. 18, 2001
For anybody who's interested, avalonracing.net (http://www.avalonracing.net) has and artical (http://www.avalonracing.net/swirlmarks.htm) on removing swirl marks and products to to use in getting rid of them. They have all sorts of other detailing info too, like 30 pages worth <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> my baby's gona be all nice and shiny now hehe. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

i know that you like that 300zx i looked at that car at import wars in NH i love the car but,
if he didnt show up for the show and was there to race i would have got 2nd place instead i got 3rd and no trophy for 3rd place

DSC
12-18-2001, 07:52 PM
who won 1st? &nbsp;What kind of detailing stuff do you use on your car?

my240likenoother
12-18-2001, 07:56 PM
The Hand
This brings us to using the hand. Most perfectionists on the show circuits enjoy working the finish by hand. Swirl marks can be removed using correct techniques and quality commercial products. As stated above, the chemicals used should be applicable to both machine and hand usage. The hand technique should require no real pressure if you are using the product correctly. Let the product do the work. To much pressure and you add to your problems.

Always as with waxing, use a back and forth method and work in small areas at a time on the car. By trying to go in circular motions as does the machines, you are more likely putting swirls in the finish. After all is complete, apply your wax as this will enhance and protect your work and more importantly the finish of the car. Two light coats of a non-drying wax is recommended. &nbsp;thats y i use the quick wax with the yellow doesnt dry

In short -----------for the best results follow these steps:

Decontaminate / neutralize the car by washing ( Clay after washing may be required if the surface feels rough).

Know the type finish you are working on. It is important to know if the finish id lacquer, clearcoat or another type of paint. Likewise it is best to know the thickness. You must leave a durable thickness in the paint for protection. The masses will not have a gauge - get one or go to a real professional body shop and ask for a reading

Select quality products and follow the directions. I do not recommend retail products or gimmick silicone products.

Do not use aggressive pads or products on clearcoat and never get them hotter than 115 degrees F.

Always take your time in the polishing and waxing process.

Repair the swirls - do not fill them. Washing will remove glazes and fillers and allow the swirls to re-appear.

If a detailer skips the polishing step after buffing and immediately applies wax over the swirls it will not remove the swirls.

Inspect the work in good light to ensure all the swirls are removed. Insufficient light adds a lot of labor.

So now you have it - the complete story on swirl marks and the removal thereof. Get involved so you can become more knowledgeable when purchasing products.

DSC
12-18-2001, 08:08 PM
I don't get it, you just quoted the article. &nbsp;Or were you saying thats exactly what you do?

12-18-2001, 11:12 PM
take it to a detail shop.

I just detailed my car with a 1,000 rpm buffing wheel, some compound, 2 waxes, and sealed it with a teflon wax. &nbsp;I spend about 5-7 hours on it.

Be sure to start with a good wash and clay to remove all contaminants. &nbsp;Use the right pads, the right compound/waxes.. and you're set.

If you want to skip the drama, just take it to a detail shop.

- Mike

craigs13
12-19-2001, 11:38 AM
Ya i took my car to a body shop to get a dent taken out... when igot my car bck it was coered 100% in swirl marks... i brought it back 2 time they were unable o get them out... the place suck i would never recomend it to anyone. i was able to get some out by waxing. you have to go very slowly... i would rub the wax in with a damp applicator till i couldnt see wax any more. up and down and side to side is the best way to go... &nbsp; &nbsp;craig