how can i tell if my wheels will clear Z32 calipers

[s13dan]

how can i tell if my wheels will clear Z32 calipers, what are the measurements, i have cheap ass motegi 17s with like +40 offset...

[HiPSI]

knowing those wheels probably not, but the only real ways to tell are either put them on and bolt the wheel up, or to bolt on the caliper/measure from hub face to outermost point on the calipers and then measure from the hub surface on the wheel to the innermost point on the spokes. the first way is much much easier though.

[mellojoe]

The offset really doesn't play much of a role in clearing brakes. its deals mostly with the spoke design and how much that will intrude into the space for the calipers.

do you have a picture?

[nightwalker]

NOPE, will not

[Yoshi]

ok, since this comes up at least once a month, here's a new twist... how much farther does the Z caliper stick out compared to the stock one? Everyone's concerned about offset and spoke patterns, but what should really matter is how much farther from the rotor's mount point does the z32 caliper stick out? If we had numbers on this, people would know whether their existing wheels would work!

So c'mon z32 brake guys! one 30mm and one 26mm go measure caliper differences and let us know!
Please? :p

[Chernobyl]

You need a minimum of 40mm difference in spoke clearance to the mounting face of your wheel to clear the 26mm calipers. Now someone go do the 30mm brakes!

I measured the differnce on a set of wheels I have that just barely clear the calipers when mounted on my dad's Z32. This should be pretty damn accurate.

[Steeles]

I'll find out this weekend for the 30mm. I gotta pull the wheel anyway

[s13dan]

thanx guys now ill just go buy some real wheels, ill prolly get some black 5zigens or something but at least my motegis look better than stock and soon ill have an SR then i will get the brakes and wheels. thanx for the help guys

[Yoshi]

I'll find out this weekend for the 30mm. I gotta pull the wheel anyway

hey Steeles, how bout it eh? ;)

[Steeles]

chit... I forgot... and didnt pull the wheels anyway... I'll do it this week. My buddy has my jackstands under his car and keeps putting off finishing his car so I can have them back to finish on my car. Having two ADD kids doing long term projects is a bish.

[West]

EDIT: Im stupid, thats what I get for having my baby in one hand while I measure this :)

CORRECTION: 30mm calipers will need aprox 1.95" to 2" (50mm) to clear the calipers.

[Steeles]

20-23 extra mm to clear an extra 4mm of brakes... hmmm weird.... theres probably an explination there somewhere... how thick is the mounting pad on the 26mm rotor hat vs the 30mm?

[duey]

Ok since this question has been asked quite a few times, with no easy answer i thought i'd ask this question..., does anyone know how to make a PDF file?

I wanna make a pdf file template sortof like this from stoptech : http://www.stoptech.com/wheelfitchart/PDF/98-647-2450-01.PDF

once i make it for my calipers, i can make another one once i measure my friends 30mm calipers.

I'm in the process of putting 26mm calipers on my car and am still not sure if my rims will clear or not (most likely they will but still not 100% sure).

Honestly i think once these templates are made it'll make life so much easier for people out there wanting to do the z32 brakes. I've actually already got the template in .jpg format BUT it doesn't print out the right size, so i figured i'd try and do it the same way stoptech makes their templates.

[Tubed4evr]

Ok since this question has been asked quite a few times, with no easy answer i thought i'd ask this question..., does anyone know how to make a PDF file?

I wanna make a pdf file template sortof like this from stoptech : http://www.stoptech.com/wheelfitchart/PDF/98-647-2450-01.PDF

once i make it for my calipers, i can make another one once i measure my friends 30mm calipers.

I'm in the process of putting 26mm calipers on my car and am still not sure if my rims will clear or not (most likely they will but still not 100% sure).

Honestly i think once these templates are made it'll make life so much easier for people out there wanting to do the z32 brakes. I've actually already got the template in .jpg format BUT it doesn't print out the right size, so i figured i'd try and do it the same way stoptech makes their templates.






Sure I can put it in pdf form. If you drew this by hand and scanned as a .jpg make sure your proportions are correct and then you could resize it in photoshop. Stoptech just printed their autocad file to PDF so if someone wants to draw it up in CAD I can put it in PDF form. I can handle most CAD software (Autocad, Unigraphics, IDEAS, PRO-E, CATIA, etc) so just PM me or something.

Ryan

[Yoshi]

um.... so what happened with this guys?
I've got a CAD rendering setup, I just want to make it the exact right dimensions :) (I can PDF as well).

[Chernobyl]

20-23 extra mm to clear an extra 4mm of brakes... hmmm weird.... theres probably an explination there somewhere... how thick is the mounting pad on the 26mm rotor hat vs the 30mm?

I dont know why there is a 10mm difference, but the wheel I measured on just BAAAARELY clears the 26mm brakes. There is only about 1-2 mm of clearance on them when mounted. Maybe Mark is giving a lot more room for error in his measurements.

[duey]

i'll have my brakes mounted this week, and be making cardboard templates for my 26mm and a friends 30mm brakes, hopefully this weekend i'll have everything converted to jpg.

[jonnnny23]

sorry, but can Advan SA3R 16x7 offset +35 clear z-brakes
http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ae86itb/sa3r.jpg

Thanks,
Jon

[Chernobyl]

sorry, but can Advan SA3R 16x7 offset +35 clear z-brakes
http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ae86itb/sa3r.jpg

Thanks,
Jon

Measure them. This is why this thread is here in the first place. Don't be lazy.

[jonnnny23]

Measure them. This is why this thread is here in the first place. Don't be lazy.

I havent bought the wheels yet. That is why i am asking other peoples advice.

[Chernobyl]

ok, i just assumed you owned the wheels since you posted a pic. anyway, ask the seller to measure the distance from the mounting surface to the inside of the spokes and you should have your answer. Nice wheels, BTW.

[0100]

Bump because this is all I came up with when I searched.

EDIT: Im stupid, thats what I get for having my baby in one hand while I measure this :)

CORRECTION: 30mm calipers will need aprox 1.95" to 2" (50mm) to clear the calipers.


Does anyone know what spoke clearance I need for a r33 gts-t caliper? I have never compared a z32 30mm and a r33 caliper, are they physically the same width??

Thanks.

[Vision Garage]

all wheels have different designs. You really cant say if they will fit or not just by the calipers you are using. And z32 and r33 calipers are pretty much the same. What wheels are you running and what offset?

[0100]

I know it's about design, that is why I need to know the minimum spoke clearance I need.

18x9.5 +12 AME shallen LX low disk. I need to find out from AME if this will give me 50mm spoke clearance. I really don't want to go with gay high disk.

Thanks.

[Vision Garage]

not sure if this will help but check out this list.

http://www.ame-wheels.com/applicationguide/sheet009.htm

[0100]

Yeah I have been looking at that and a...

18x9.5 +12 low gives me 125mm lip

Anyway I can use that number to figure out spoke clearence.

Thanks VG!

[0100]

9.5" = 241mm

minus the 125 lip gives me 116mm left but not sure how much of that is spoke to hub surface.


Can I also get a confirmation the r33 gts-t brake calipers are 30mm. I am 99.9% sure they are 30mm calipers, but in my searching some people have said they are 32mm.

Thanks!

[Marcus]

put the brakes on. then put the wheels on.

these guys are right. but offset does have a lot to do with it.

[0100]

1. I don't have the r33 calipers yet. 2. I don't have the AME wheel yet. I am asking this to figure out if I can get away with ordering a low disk. At this point I need to wait on AME japan to tell me what the spoke clearance is, on the 18x9.5 +12 low...

[fliprayzin240sx]

Honestly, why dont you hit up some AME dealer. Try to get ahold of Rishie from AutoRND or Logan from Aspec, either one of them should be able to guide you. But as far as calipers, im pretty sure R33s are the same spec as R32s. They just look slightly different (heat sinks/fins).

[0100]

Yeah I am working with Rishie. That is who I bought the wheels from. AME japan just needs these measurements.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=197471 Once I get these I am good to go.