solid motor mount question

[GL Chrillz]

I just swapped my sr20 to another s13 shell, and while it was out i took my motor mounts in to school and welded some plate steel to them to make them solid since they were worn to hell and it's going to be a track car. i just put the motor in last night, and since the mounts have no give anymore, the trans mount is off slightly. the trans lines up perfectly, just the mount is off...is there any problem with me removing the rubber off the trans mount, lining that up and making it solid as well and calling it a day?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Solid mounts on a 4 banger...baaaaaaaad idea.

[ForeignMuscle]

You will regret this big time, but if you want, I will sell you my Delrin poly solid mounts that actually line up. You can have them for $20 if you want. You WILL regret this, guaranteed. I wouldn't have solids on a race car much less a street car. It was embarrassing it was so bad. My girlfriend wouldn't ride in it, people at red lights could hear it vibrating. Do what you do though. You have been warned.

[Pinggg]

You took solid mounts to another level, your one crazy dude.

[Chaluska]

im with everyone else.. i had solid mounts like 3 years ago, the vibrations were so bad, after about a week, everything in my car was rattling and squeeking so bad, it sounded like a mouse orgy in a tin can.

id never recommend solid mounts ever on a 4 cylinder unless it was completely balanced, and was race only.

[project-D180]

urethane mount r the way to go,you'll have some vibration but you fillings or car wont fall apart

[future]

I had solid mounts once, on my ka. Yeah that lasted a day lol

[GL Chrillz]

they're really that bad? :( it's definitely not going to be a daily driver at all.

[living4surf]

i dont find my solid metal mounts that bad i dont recommend it for a daily but for just a weekend fun car or the track i love the solid feel they give you

[zooopreme]

they're really that bad? :( it's definitely not going to be a daily driver at all.

It really depends on preference. I had a friend who tracked his DD and had solid mounts, he didn't mind it but I never liked riding in his car anywhere.

[GL Chrillz]

I might drive it to school once in a while or something just to work on it, show some buddies, etc. but mostly it's going to be tracked. I got the same response about solid subframe risers and how they ride horribly. i dailied on those and a welded diff for 6 months on michigan roads slammed and didn't bother me...guess i'll see how it feels maybe get some oem mounts to keep as spares. back to the question, can i just cut out the rubber on the trans mount, line it up and weld it together? as long as the trans is lined up it should be good to go right?

[ForeignMuscle]

People I know don't even race with them. Your engine needs movement and shock absorbing will happen in other areas if not in your mounts. Ie: your axles, driveshaft, your ass bone, etc..

[HS13KLS]

I have had solid mounts in a few cars.. Even with the solid urethane bushings sucked. IMO its not for me. track or daily. I ended up buying just used oem motor mounts. and I agree with ForeignMuscle , the vibrations will go everywhere. My dash would vibrate so loud I couldn't think at lights. but I guess if racecar -_-'

[GL Chrillz]

People I know don't even race with them. Your engine needs movement and shock absorbing will happen in other areas if not in your mounts. Ie: your axles, driveshaft, your ass bone, etc..

didn't really think of it that way. I guess i'll get the car running and try and find some OEM ones >.>

[GL Chrillz]

ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

[Corbic]

ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

Yes, its the best route actually. Hockey Pucks are vulcanized rubber, its a bit stiffer than polly but if you do it right they work great and will last longer.

Here is what most poly's look like -

http://www.dragtimes.com/images-classifieds-large/240-240SX-S13-S14-S15-180SX-Polyurethane-Motor-Mounts-for-sale_260576690171.jpg


And the Hockey's -
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9925/img0273zc.jpg


The only problem is, you are going to what 2.5" motor mounts for a stock Nissan engine (SR/KA/CA). Pucks are 1". So either cut one in half (not recommended) or get some sort of metal spacer. I believe my friend just stacked some thick ass fender washers in the center. $8 for the pucks and hardware.

[bc.]

ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

I usually don't cry foul when it is obvious that someone hasn't searched, but you need to search a little harder on this. I know there are allot of extra hockey pucks around these days... but you have much less canadian-ghetto options out there.

[Matej]

You can use OEM Z32 motor mounts.
They fit the same as S-chassis mounts yet will be stiffer since they are made for a heavier motor. Plus they are less bulky.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-gEwyJeKL._SL500_AA300_.jpg



Megan offers an even harder version, but they are very overpriced.

http://www.meganracing.com/uploadimage/regular/3142012_13545_8818_7228-MGR-.jpg

[ForeignMuscle]

I have a set of polys just like the red ones posted... $20 and I'll ship them to you. You were warned though.

[280zx2by2]

I have poly Cusco's on my daily driver, I have almost no motor movement and I love the feel.

Never rode in a 240sx with solids but I have rode in an EF civic with them and it rattled your ass hairs to the point of you having to lift your rear out of the seat to avoid the tickle fight you were having with the engine.

[jamg]

here's a quick fix.
http://www.shopdirectbrands.com/data/default/images/catalog/250/MMM-60980036929.jpg

i put that stuff all over my stock mounts. it should hold up.

[GL Chrillz]

I have a set of polys just like the red ones posted... $20 and I'll ship them to you. You were warned though.

pm me pics

[ForeignMuscle]

Used for maybe 100 miles. http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l494/gmbateman/solidmounts.jpg

[GL Chrillz]

Used for maybe 100 miles. http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l494/gmbateman/solidmounts.jpg


wow they look brand new...20 bucks? might as well do that. PM me your paypal

[ForeignMuscle]

You'll need to buy another bolt. I bought them at a hardware store so no biggie. The mounts are brand new though. I have no need for them.

[CaptainVlad]

Idk why everyone always complains about solid mounts...

I have the Avid mounts, which are solid, but have a small piece of rubber in them. (which I doubt do anything) With solid mounts motor/trans mounts, solid subframe mounts, and a weld in roll cage, it vibrates as you would expect, but it's not bad at all....Granted my car is not a daily driver, but still...

[AsleepAltima]

so im not stepping on toes here, whoever has another set - i believe there were 2 sets offered in this thread - ill buy the set he doesnt. just pm the paypal and its done.
thanks!

[BRAIN_Z33]

Drift freaq mounts.




End thread

[fliprayzin240sx]

I got a used set of URAS Engine mounts...still stiffer than anything I've used before new and wont rattle your windshield off. Check my thread in my sig if you wanna check it out.

[stev0n]

Ny nephew's RB'd hatch has solid motor mounts and it feels very similar to my old stock s13 with stock mounts. Is it as smooth as my granny car (mercury sable)? well fuck no. But i don't think it rides bad at all & it's his DD. Especially not as terribly as others feel about solid mounts.

I've got solid mounts in my LS s13 because they were $100 cheaper than the poly counterpart. But I haven't driven it yet.

[fliprayzin240sx]

^^^You cant compare RBs or LS to I-4 engines. The more cylinders you have, the more balanced the engine is. You can run solid aluminum billet mounts on RBs and you there isnt that much more vibration. You just get more noise than anything else.

[Danial]

Well if your engine runs like poop and isnt firing a cylinder, yea you will have crazy vibrations.

There is a reason that solid mounts exist. If it is purely a track car and you haven't experienced it before, I would just do it
I like how the whole car vibrates with solid mounts, and track cars arent supposed to be luxury vehicles baha

[stev0n]

^^^You cant compare RBs or LS to I-4 engines. The more cylinders you have, the more balanced the engine is. You can run solid aluminum billet mounts on RBs and you there isnt that much more vibration. You just get more noise than anything else.

Touche my friend. I didn't actually take that into consideration.

[hamizle]

^^^You cant compare RBs or LS to I-4 engines. The more cylinders you have, the more balanced the engine is. You can run solid aluminum billet mounts on RBs and you there isnt that much more vibration. You just get more noise than anything else.

It's true. I had some aftermarket ones on my ka it sucked so bad i went back to OEM. My friend has aftermarket ones in his ls an it doesn't vibrant nearly as much.

[Corbic]

You can use OEM Z32 motor mounts.
They fit the same as S-chassis mounts yet will be stiffer since they are made for a heavier motor. Plus they are less bulky.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-gEwyJeKL._SL500_AA300_.jpg


I'll have to check this out, maybe Anchor makes some for $20. At that point they'd become disposable, just swap in a new set every summer.

[champagnepapi]

Dude just go spend 15-20 bucks on Hockey Pucks and make your own mounts. Back in Puerto Rico we use to do this to our track cars. Useful idea and the hockey pucks can withstand the power and temperature.

Not alot of vibration and you Stack up the hockey Pucks to the Height needed.

[ixfxi]

Drift freaq mounts.
End thread

Age: 21

Nuff said

[Corbic]

I'll have to check this out, maybe Anchor makes some for $20. At that point they'd become disposable, just swap in a new set every summer.

$63 a mount from Anchor, fuck that.

[living4surf]

Dude just go spend 15-20 bucks on Hockey Pucks and make your own mounts. Back in Puerto Rico we use to do this to our track cars. Useful idea and the hockey pucks can withstand the power and temperature.

Not alot of vibration and you Stack up the hockey Pucks to the Height needed.

Of course Florida

[champagnepapi]

Of course Florida

whats wrong with Florida? :Ownedd:

[Slims]

nothing wrong with pucks, its a track car. cheap solution that WORKS.

[ixfxi]

you guys are so fucking stupid

no one here understands the word ISOLATION

hockey puck or dildo with a bolt through it, its all the same. you take something and BOLT it to something, its not isolated and vibrations resonate through the fastener

fucking shit, are you people so stupid that bottom of the barrel tire questions and hockey puck mounts become actual threads?

why not take some round aluminum stock from a metal supply shop, drill a hole and insert a threaded rod - there, now you have a solid mount that will never fail... unlike your logic.


buy some fucking drift freaq mounts so that he can finish his s13 project already.

[champagnepapi]

you guys are so fucking stupid

no one here understands the word ISOLATION

hockey puck or dildo with a bolt through it, its all the same. you take something and BOLT it to something, its not isolated and vibrations resonate through the fastener

fucking shit, are you people so stupid that bottom of the barrel tire questions and hockey puck mounts become actual threads?

why not take some round aluminum stock from a metal supply shop, drill a hole and insert a threaded rod - there, now you have a solid mount that will never fail... unlike your logic.


buy some fucking drift freaq mounts so that he can finish his s13 project already.

guy sounds madd lol

[GL Chrillz]

so im not stepping on toes here, whoever has another set - i believe there were 2 sets offered in this thread - ill buy the set he doesnt. just pm the paypal and its done.
thanks!

i bought foreignmuscle's mounts, so whoever else was selling feel free to grab them.

I picked his poly mounts up for 20 bucks, so i figured i might as well. and if they break ever, i now have a set of spare solid ones that i made for free. so i guess that's not too bad.

[Slims]

guy sounds madd lol
:stupid:

Who said just slap them on though, I dont remember anyone telling him how to assemble them, just what material to use. dont have a brain hemorrhage man.

[GL Chrillz]

you guys are so fucking stupid

no one here understands the word ISOLATION

hockey puck or dildo with a bolt through it, its all the same. you take something and BOLT it to something, its not isolated and vibrations resonate through the fastener

fucking shit, are you people so stupid that bottom of the barrel tire questions and hockey puck mounts become actual threads?

why not take some round aluminum stock from a metal supply shop, drill a hole and insert a threaded rod - there, now you have a solid mount that will never fail... unlike your logic.


buy some fucking drift freaq mounts so that he can finish his s13 project already.

did someone take a dildo with a bolt through it and thread it up your ass?

[champagnepapi]

did someone take a dildo with a bolt through it and thread it up your ass?

BAHAHAHAHAHA:bowdown:

[ixfxi]

did someone take a dildo with a bolt through it and thread it up your ass?

no, but i might just like that

you bring the dildo, i'll bring the hockey pucks... you fuckin fruitcake

haha fuckin zilvia, what a shithole its become

[drscooper]

no, but i might just like that

you bring the dildo, i'll bring the hockey pucks... you fuckin fruitcake

haha fuckin zilvia, what a shithole its become

dude if i could kiss your ass i would! :naughtyd:

[Corbic]

no, but i might just like that

you bring the dildo, i'll bring the hockey pucks... you fuckin fruitcake

haha fuckin zilvia, what a shithole its become

It's a shit hole because you came unhinged when a member mentioned using a proven, 60 year old custom motor mount technique?

It works, deal with it.

[Matej]

$63 a mount from Anchor, fuck that.
Bought mine as a set of two on Ebay for about 50$ shipped.
Do not see any that cheap on there right now though.

[AsleepAltima]

good article

Driftopia Tech Blog » Blog Archive » Hockey Puck Motor Mounts (http://driftopia.com/blog/2007/07/01/hockey-puck-motor-mounts/)

[Slims]

^nice find

these use to be about $30 a piece but still work well. just get some better nuts and lock washers then the ones that come with it.

Circuit Sports Engine Mount Set : Nissan 240SX (KA/SR20) - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Circuit-Sports-Engine-Mount-Set-%3A-Nissan-240SX-%28KA%7B47%7DSR20%29.html)

[SuperDown]

Drift freaq mounts.




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Im with this dude i love my drift freaq mounts strong and sturdy but not gunna shake ur teeth loose.

[ixfxi]

It's a shit hole because you came unhinged when a member mentioned using a proven, 60 year old custom motor mount technique?

It works, deal with it.

seriously

zilvia has become a forum full of failed engineers

do me a favor, cordick... with all your infinite wisdom
someone please explain how bolting your engine directly to your subframe without any isolation is a good solution to an engine mount
"but people have been doing it for DECADES!!!"

wow, i didnt realize that the invention of the hockey puck, has absorbing qualities and will smoothen the ride.

the answer is: you're an idiot

to use drift freaq mounts as an example, each mount's hardware is isolated.

"i dont get it, what do you mean.. iso-lated.. its too confusing!"

fucking retards... pinching pennies over parts that cost less than 100 dollars. this is why the current generation of 240 owners are fucking hopeless. i'm surprised you people hold real jobs

[Benedict]

fwiw I had solid motor, trans, diff, and subframe mounts with a solid hub 4 puck clutch disk on my vg30et Z31. Aside from the clutch's quick engagement there was zero drivability issues. It was pretty smooth but the mounts felt awesome for clutch kick initiations and on/off throttle adjustments mid corner. I DD'd and road tripped the fuck out of it like this.

I also slid/drove my buddies s13 hatch with stock KA, solid motor and trans mount, and solid hub sintered iron clutch disk. It performed on the track very similar to mine, but it rattled and shook like a mother fucker at idle and the clutch disk squeeked and squeeled with every engagement.

[Corbic]

the answer is: you're an idiot



Wow dude, step dad touching you again? Grow the fuck up.

Nobody in here is saying hockey pucks are smooth and are going to give you a that Lexus ride.

They are $5, allow you to adjust your engine's hight and position easily and will last a long time.

They will also be softer than solid mounts. That's great that your butt is all puckered up over your need to be isolated, but as the engine rocks, the movement will be absorbed by the surrounding puck material, not the fucking bolt. Yes the bolt will still carry vibration and noise but in no means will you have a fucking solid mount Harley.


Honestly what the fuck do you care if people won't spend $100 on a motor mount? Is your self-esteem solely based around how wealthy and "baller" the community you claim to belong too is? Go buy a Ferrari and sign up for FChat then... But wait, you are a sorry broke ass 240 owner as well....


Rather then bitching about shit and being a total douchebag, why not man up and try and change the community for the better. And you know, the best place to start that change... is with your self.

Go with love brother ixfxi.

[Corbic]

fwiw I had solid motor, trans, diff, and subframe mounts with a solid hub 4 puck clutch disk on my vg30et Z31. Aside from the clutch's quick engagement there was zero drivability issues. It was pretty smooth but the mounts felt awesome for clutch kick initiations and on/off throttle adjustments mid corner. I DD'd and road tripped the fuck out of it like this.

I also slid/drove my buddies s13 hatch with stock KA, solid motor and trans mount, and solid hub sintered iron clutch disk. It performed on the track very similar to mine, but it rattled and shook like a mother fucker at idle and the clutch disk squeeked and squeeled with every engagement.

V6 vs I4.

The larger V-engines are naturally more balanced and thus rock less. This is why most of your old cars are V8s, I6 and even I8 back in the day.

[ixfxi]

Honestly what the fuck do you care if people won't spend $100 on a motor mount? Is your self-esteem solely based around how wealthy and "baller" the community you claim to belong too is? Go buy a Ferrari and sign up for FChat then... But wait, you are a sorry broke ass 240 owner as well....

Rather then bitching about shit and being a total douchebag, why not man up and try and change the community for the better. And you know, the best place to start that change... is with your self.

Go with love brother ixfxi.

you dont need to spend buckoo bucks to have a proper car

when people on this forum recommend bullshit tires for their 17" rims as opposed to dropping down to smaller diameter wheels and better quality tires, we have a problem

when people on this forum recommend hockey pucks as opposed to a proper engine mount, we have a problem

the bottom line, i shouldnt give a fuck.. and thats my problem. thats what happens when you've been around forever, and you've seen a community of smart people turn into a community of fucking handicapped idiots. you guys are slowly degrading into penny pinching fucktards who'de rather spend money on rotas than used stock wheels. gone is russ, gone is ty yap, gone are a lot of smart people who had shit to contribute.

you said it best though, i should stop giving a fuck. really, i should.


fwiw I had solid motor, trans, diff, and subframe mounts with a solid hub 4 puck clutch disk on my vg30et Z31.

"duhh i dont understand the difference between a 6 or a 4 cylinder, they all should have the same harmonic characteristics... right?"

morons

[fliprayzin240sx]

Let it go Mike, nothing you say will change Zilvia being the new Honda-Tech. I stopped trying to comprehend some of the shit that goes on here a long time ago.

[Corbic]

you dont need to spend buckoo bucks to have a proper car

Define "proper". The car "worked" just fine stock.



when people on this forum recommend bullshit tires for their 17" rims as opposed to dropping down to smaller diameter wheels and better quality tires, we have a problem

Define "quality". Chinese tires conform to the print and spec they are listed too. I doubt the probability of receiving a defective tire from a Chinese brand is any higher than a US brand.

So I presume you mean "performs better". But that is always a trade off, better "track" tires tend to have shorter mileage life and are horrific in the wet, snow and cold.

Most "track" tire shoppers here are looking to just drift, in which case they want a cheap, hard, long lasting tire...that's it, cause in 3 hours its gone.



when people on this forum recommend hockey pucks as opposed to a proper engine mount, we have a problem

Just because its inexpensive or grass roots does not mean it's stupid or won't work. As I said before, if you want something more durable then stock or poly, if you need to adjust your engine height, and you don't want something as hard as solids - vulcanized rubber mounts is where it's at.




the bottom line, i shouldnt give a fuck.. and thats my problem. thats what happens when you've been around forever, and you've seen a community of smart people turn into a community of fucking handicapped idiots.



I'm sorry Damon has left you, but you need to let go and move on. At some-point the younger generation becomes the older generations responsibility.

It's not like they teach engine design or balancing in school. They learn from forums which are 90% hearsay and antidotal stories.

Agreed on the wheels. Nissan stocks may suck dick but there is a world of cheap Mustang wheels out their. I have NE GTs I picked up for $100 after I sold my Cobras.



you said it best though, i should stop giving a fuck.

You just need to change your presentation. By being a total prick and yelling just puts people on the defensive and no one hears or cares about your insights.

You need to listen more than you talk if you want to be heard.

People also need to learn from experience. Look at how much Damon changed his car and how much money he spent on it... only to realize he wanted and Evo.


Hockey pucks would actually be a great mod of anyone. You spend $8 and two hours putting them in, drive around for a week and decide its not for you. Good cheap lesson, got some wrench time in there as well. So what.

It's not like we are talking about rusted hoods.

[greenwood]

a guy i know had solid motor mounts on a rb. yeah at idle it was so shitty. and when it revv'd out it smoothed out but still. horrible.

[GL Chrillz]

ixfxi, you need to realize we cant just automatically know every aspect of these cars right off the bat, or from just browsing the forum once in a while. I am in school right now to be an automotive technician, and they don't tell you anything about custom work on cars. So the only way you can learn it is through experience on your own car, and learning it from peoples insight on forums. Thank you to the people who are sharing their advice, and not being a total douche. Because now I know more about motor mounts than when i made the thread. I'm just sorry the rest of the community gets a bad rep from a few people like him commenting on everyone's threads.

[wangan_cruiser]

Part of the problem is younginss nowadays dont even try to research. They like to be spoon fed. Almost of these topic wefe already covered for the last 10 yrs.

[GL Chrillz]

I may have missed it, but i didn't see anything about someone making completely solid motor mounts for an SR20 on this site. That's my fault if it's on here and I didn't see it

[Slims]

Then let the thread die out. There is absolutely no reason to bring a negative vibe in here. If you're sick of seeing dumb questions, dont click on the thread. You waste more time and energy posting then getting off the computer. the concept of that is even easier to understand then an isolated hardware in your engine mount, holy shit. People who want to help will still post, helping the community. Or if the question is completely retarded, no one will answer and the OP will found out some other way. A good chunk of people here seem to be warped up in the small knowledge they know and grow a big ass ego from it. instead of sharing, and possibly learning something new they want to act like an asshat.

[AsleepAltima]

i dont give a fuck what anyone says - i use what works.
i started off in the car world drag racing built vw bugs. hard mounted.
did they shake your nuts off? damn right they did. but that connection and feel you get from it made it worth it.
funny how people get so bent out of shape over the trivial things and dont say anything about zip-tied bumpers and body parts. LOL
that said, i drive an evo, put quality parts into it and dd it knowing it will never see a track day.
i also turbo'd an altima and poly'd the mounts in it and dd'd the fuck out of it and drove it across country several times.
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT SOMEONE DOES TO THEIR CAR?
that being said, i just spent 8 bucks on 4 hockey pucks and will be installing them under my built sr so i can see how i like the feel and i will be dd'ing that car and driving it home to california. if no one likes that idea, i really dont care. go bitch and cry to someone else.
oh, and ty yap was cool as fuck. i scouted his car for a magazine back in the day to put him in it, but the magazine never got off the ground. just because he spent tons of money though, doesnt make him any better than the dudes that are using time tested parts/techniques that work. the prima donna shit on zilvia is so retarded sometimes. you have to sift through the bullshit on a daily basis. too retarded but funny how torqued some people can get.

[ixfxi]

Define "quality". Chinese tires conform to the print and spec they are listed too. I doubt the probability of receiving a defective tire from a Chinese brand is any higher than a US brand. I'm sorry Damon has left you, but you need to let go and move on.

I'm sorry, its hard to hear you with Damon's dick and balls still in your throat.


ixfxi, you need to realize we cant just automatically know every aspect of these cars right off the bat, or from just browsing the forum once in a while. I am in school right now to be an automotive technician, and they don't tell you anything about custom work on cars. So the only way you can learn it is through experience on your own car, and learning it from peoples insight on forums. Thank you to the people who are sharing their advice, and not being a total douche. Because now I know more about motor mounts than when i made the thread. I'm just sorry the rest of the community gets a bad rep from a few people like him commenting on everyone's threads.

read the comment below:


Part of the problem is younginss nowadays dont even try to research. They like to be spoon fed. Almost of these topic were already covered for the last 10 yrs.

EXACTLY. and this is why idiots will always remain idiots. I read books. I read websites. I READ. I also listen to people that I know and respect, because you can learn from their experience.. regardless of how cranky and fucked up some of these people are. Some of the brightest people I met were cranky angry motherfuckers. If I come across that way, then I guess I too am getting old... or tired of the stupidity I see on these forums. Its just like how people say "HID kits are okay, you just need to aim them down." NO FUCK FACE, they're not okay and you dont need to just aim them down - you need to discard them and install some proper parts.


Then let the thread die out. There is absolutely no reason to bring a negative vibe in here.

There definitely is a reason why I bring my negativity here.. because I can and have been for over a decade. Not that I'm necessarily proud to associate with such low-lives for so long, but I have been around here for ages and chances are, you havent. So take a bite of the shut-the-fuck-up sandwhich and keep your mouth closed, you may learn something.

i dont give a fuck what anyone says

maybe because you own an Altima?


Let it go Mike, nothing you say will change Zilvia being the new Honda-Tech. I stopped trying to comprehend some of the shit that goes on here a long time ago.

You're absolutely, positively right.

[AsleepAltima]

maybe because you own an Altima?

maybe because youre one of the prick prima donna's that thinks your shit dont stink?

i also own an evo x, so what exactly is your fucking point? i, like most people will mod my car how i/we see fit and your assholish remarks wont change a thing. why dont you just hit the "log out" button and stay gone? im pretty sure you wont be missed.

[ixfxi]

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

[Slims]

There definitely is a reason why I bring my negativity here.. because I can and have been for over a decade. :jerkit::picardfp:

holy shit, stop feeding the troll. The OP got his answer and found some mounts. someone lock this thread.

[ManoNegra]

Some of the brightest people I met were cranky angry motherfuckers.

Your favorite cranky angry motherfucker's mounts:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/23882_10151300613888764_1645336382_n.jpg

<3 Mike

[Corbic]

Your favorite cranky angry motherfucker's mounts:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/23882_10151300613888764_1645336382_n.jpg

<3 Mike

Is that a block of aluminum billet?


Do you not know what isolation means!!!! *sarcasm*

[ManoNegra]

Is that a block of aluminum billet?


Yes sir, Nismo's were demoted for these
and I hope I don't need to point out that this is a track car

[AsleepAltima]

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
ok, I'll admit, that made me chuckle. lol

[bc.]

The problem with Zilvia is that everyone older then 2008 has hit Menopause and thinks that it's everyone elses fault, when really, it's them who has changed.

[AsleepAltima]

ive been here since 06 and still couldnt care less what other people do to their cars. its like art - some of it sucks and of its cool but its all individual expression. unless its unsafe, i generally dont care what people do to their cars.

[Matej]

Just bolt the motor directly to the cross member.

[ManoNegra]

Just bolt the motor directly to the cross member.

that, in essence, is what solid mounts do....

[fliprayzin240sx]

The problem with Zilvia is that everyone older then 2008 has hit Menopause and thinks that it's everyone elses fault, when really, it's them who has changed.

We changed how? Cuz we're pissed off that people treat these cars like throw away cars and the scene that used to be so fucking close knit, is now full of fucking thieving, hellafail fitting bunch of morons? Yup, you're right its changed...

[AsleepAltima]

i think what everyone is forgetting or is refusing to acknowledge is that they are just 240's. not ferraris. do i love my 240? of course. but its just a low budget underpowered car that we modify. thats it.

[bc.]

We changed how? Cuz we're pissed off that people treat these cars like throw away cars and the scene that used to be so fucking close knit, is now full of fucking thieving, hellafail fitting bunch of morons? Yup, you're right its changed...

Not gonna deny what you said, but you are seeing from a different perspective now. People have been asking newb questions and doing dumb shit to their cars since the beginning of the internet. You just see it more clearly now.

Some old people yell at kids on their lawn and some don't care because they can remember when they did stupid shit too, Zilvia has allot of the yelling kind.

Not trying to light a fire here man... just take a breather.

[ManoNegra]

i think what everyone is forgetting or is refusing to acknowledge is that they are just 240's. not ferraris. do i love my 240? of course. but its just a low budget underpowered car that we modify. thats it.

The same was said about 510s, 240z, old Celicas, etc. at one point or another aswell.
Look now at the amounts of time and money that is thrown at them.
There is no excuse for shitty cars period.

[Corbic]

The same was said about 510s, 240z, old Celicas, etc. at one point or another aswell.
Look now at the amounts of time and money that is thrown at them.
There is no excuse for shitty cars period.

Lets not forget about those "disposable" economy cars like Mustangs, Novas, Dusters, BelAirs, Chevelles ect.


The 240sx is Japan's Mustang/Camaro.

[ixfxi]

Your favorite cranky angry motherfucker's mounts:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/23882_10151300613888764_1645336382_n.jpg
<3 Mike

Dont show me Mike's mounts. I dont need to know what Mike does with his weird car. That thing is like a ticking time bomb.


We changed how? Cuz we're pissed off that people treat these cars like throw away cars and the scene that used to be so fucking close knit, is now full of fucking thieving, hellafail fitting bunch of morons? Yup, you're right its changed...

hahahahahahaha we used to be TIGHT yo! hehe


i think what everyone is forgetting or is refusing to acknowledge is that they are just 240's. not ferraris. do i love my 240? of course. but its just a low budget underpowered car that we modify. thats it.

thats right. If I owned a Magnum P.I. Ferrari 308 I'de have it cryogenically stored away, possibly in carbonite if I could afford to.

hahah it doesnt matter, ferrari, nissan, fiat.. whatever car is a car you like, is a car you like - it doesnt need to be a high dollar car or a bullshit 1 dollar car. Some find these cars disposable, thats great if thats your prerogative. For me, I really enjoy these cars and I think as the years progress... a lot of "idiots" will change their tune and once again crave for this type of car. We're on the right track though, keep buying them, building them and smashing them. This is exactly how memories are made and when you get older, this is exactly what you want to get back into.


.............unless the FRS/BRZ craze works and wins you guys over. Seems to be working. Ditch the old 240 and buy a new S1..err BRZ. :)

[fliprayzin240sx]

HOw the scene used to be: You find out somebody has a 240 or they find out you have a 240, its koo to check out the other car

How the scene is now: Somebody finds out you have a 240, you dont show it to them because you're worried they're gonna gank your shit. If I find out another person got a 240, I dont even ask to check it out since itll probably be a Pep Boy'ed, rattle can blacked out fucking missile.

[godzillarb]

I'm running Circuit Sports poly mounts on my stock long block RB25. Slight vibration at idle, negligible change at cruising speed. Car feels pretty awesome, but then again, the old mounts were all ripped.

[AsleepAltima]

HOw the scene used to be: You find out somebody has a 240 or they find out you have a 240, its koo to check out the other car

How the scene is now: Somebody finds out you have a 240, you dont show it to them because you're worried they're gonna gank your shit. If I find out another person got a 240, I dont even ask to check it out since itll probably be a Pep Boy'ed, rattle can blacked out fucking missile.
youre absolutely right - im more scared someone is going to steal my nissan than my evo. the car thats worth a little less than 12k (to me) is sitting in the garage while the evo sits outside. lol

[uraznfriend]

Not gonna deny what you said, but you are seeing from a different perspective now. People have been asking newb questions and doing dumb shit to their cars since the beginning of the internet. You just see it more clearly now.



When i first joined here few years ago it wasnt this bad. Almost everyday now i see some redundant question being asked when all they could have done was click http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-search-first-use-instead-making-new-threads.html
and asked a question and get a response in a few hours.
Fuck zilvia im going to nicoclub

[Corbic]

When i first joined here few years ago it wasnt this bad. Almost everyday now i see some redundant question being asked when all they could have done was click http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-search-first-use-instead-making-new-threads.html
and asked a question and get a response in a few hours.
Fuck zilvia im going to nicoclub


Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[ManoNegra]

Dont show me Mike's mounts. I dont need to know what Mike does with his weird car. That thing is like a ticking time bomb.


You mean besides getting driven and embarrassing cars with twice the pistons and displacement?

tick tick tick tick tick tick tick....:w00t:

[slower than you]

Ifixi is completely right about the hockey pucks being essentially solid mount. You guys do realize that OEM and aftermarket mounts have completely isolated studs on both sides, right? If the same bolt is touching the chassis and the motor, it doesn't matter if you put a gummy worm, a condom, a stuffed animal or a piece of steel in between, the vibration will go straight through.

[Corbic]

Ifixi is completely right about the hockey pucks being essentially solid mount. You guys do realize that OEM and aftermarket mounts have completely isolated studs on both sides, right? If the same bolt is touching the chassis and the motor, it doesn't matter if you put a gummy worm, a condom, a stuffed animal or a piece of steel in between, the vibration will go straight through.

Yup... completely isolated bolts.

http://www.nissanraceshop.com/image/333527/316284/700/700/circuit-sports-solid-engine-mount-set-s1314-emk-0134-hc.JPG

The bolts incased in poly or rubber is why these mounts fail so often. As both bolts move and vibrate they slowly tear apart their incasement.


I think Cusco is on the right track with the GM style mount. Notice the rubber is compressed by the steel sleeves it's poured into. This means it is able to "stretch" less and thus last longer.

http://projectnissan.com/shopping/pc/catalog/projectsilvia/eng_Mount.jpg

[Biggamehit]

I ran hockey pucks on my D1SL car and I run them on my other 180 perfect cheap solid engine with just a tad of movement.. #bitches #money #win.

My old setup is for sales.. pucks and modded subframe.

[slower than you]

Well those circuit sports mounts are pointless then, just use pucks and save some money.

The Cisco ones on the other hand seem like the best of both worlds.

[ixfxi]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MiI-HflKoAE/TZBLOI6WOCI/AAAAAAAAAhE/Nar8e-c50iQ/s1600/IMG_0859.jpg


ISOLATED

[TheRealSy90]

Poly mounts are gay.

I've been running Xcessive Billet Aluminum blocks and steel trans plate no bushing for 3 years.

Don't care.

[AsleepAltima]

Poly mounts are gay.

I've been running Xcessive Billet Aluminum blocks and steel trans plate no bushing for 3 years.

Don't care.
how stiff is it with the solid rear?

[khon240sx]

solid mounts.....i can hear...feel the powah! :hyper::eek3d:

love it when in 3rd gear, love that sound.

[om3ga]

Cusco/Kazama mounts are awesome on a daily. I know people who daily solid aluminum mounts with no problem. Sure it vibrates but if you are gonna go hard you might as well go the hardest.

[bc.]

...Sure it vibrates but if you are gonna go hard you might as well go the hardest.

That's definitely what she said.

[ixfxi]

You mean besides getting driven and embarrassing cars with twice the pistons and displacement?

this should be a common occurrence for anyone who knows how to drive, juancho

[Bushido]

I have avid polyurethane mounts, similar to the cuscos up above.

they transfer alot of vibrations to the cabin, but the sharpness in the shifter and lack of slop in the driveline make a big difference in the way the car feels.